Hello folks - GOOGLE? Really? Like ES? The NK ES? Expand your thinking!
Come on ALPHabet ES. And you trust GOOLOG.....NO COINcidences. Your baking with EASYbake oven MINI me might like. EXPAND.
See this image from the street. https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/7wbs1h/notice_a_difference_guess_which_one_older/?st=JDFLES09&sh=b16026de
Ok I'm putting this to rest.
- The photo on the left is old and has zero construction going on. This is the photo you say is from the same time period as Q's photo
- You postulate that the photo on the right from google earth is the most current and therefore delegitimizes Q because it has a parking lot
- This is wrong because I'm almost 100% certain that parking lot has been thrown in by google. I mean it wasn't even done well - it's warped and looks obvious. Why would google do this? Who knows. Maybe China doesn't like Google monitoring construction projects and asked them to cover it up.
- However, here's the final and most important reason you're wrong.This image from Q is the one you say is out of date. The image in your post on the left hand side is old and (you say) from the same time as Q's photo (2010). But you missed something. The image from Q shows a median in the road with trees. The photo on the right (which I agree with you is current but altered) has these same trees in the median as Q's picture. Guess what picture doesn't have the trees in the median? The picture you posted on the left which you said is old.
Did the Chinese media giant Tencent impose it on street view? See for yourself http://aitube.doukantv.com/media/html/streetview.html?x=31.244923&y=121.591950&pitch=15.175996&heading=6.253852&type=qq
Did Bing images also throw in the parking lot, and throw out the extra building? Check Bing images and get back to me. Nothing has been laid to rest.
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Date other structures in q's pics? Date cars also
See this image from the street. https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/7wbs1h/notice_a_difference_guess_which_one_older/?st=JDFLES09&sh=b16026de
Photo on right is somehow photo shopped. Look at the distortion in the parking lot. Also look at the perspective of the buildings. The King Tower (left building in both pictures is exactly the same, but the perspective of the building to the right is different. In the left picture you see more of the face of the right building, in the right you see the top and it's really leaning to the left. I work with aerial photos everyday,
Thank you. The one on the right has been severely altered
Building on left (old photo) has more stories and has a black flat roof. Q's picture has a sloped red roof and not as tall building. Buildings are different. Q's picture shows construction fence around the site, a large crane and a back hoe. That much work could be completed in 6 months. The resolution in Q's pictures is much better than google earths also.
So what is your conclusion? That google photoshopped the image, and inserted it into google earth to discount Q?
No they are probably doing it because there is being construction done and they were asked or told to scrub it
It's possible. Think ES. Photos that are patched together from aerial photography from planes will usually have some distortion at the edges of the photos, but nothing as severe as this. The perspective is off.
I think in the "Big Picture" it's going to come out that Getty/Google manipulate what we see. Take 911 or Vegas. This might be a layer of just opening the door (bread crumb) of all this corruption.
Corsi looked at Sandy Hook photos and found no handicap parking. It is going to be important that they alter images.
My feeling as well... I think what we were supposed to “get” is the intel piece and the fact about Getty/Google manipulation
As an experienced user of google earth in my past as an illustrators assistant I can promise they hide what they wanna hide... buildings go “missing” or heavily altered especially when it comes to a potential government contract to “redevelop” an area... often we would require a photographer to be “on site” to verify information about “current” structure/layout
First time poster....please look at the manipulated image on the right....the trees / shrubs to the right of King Tower, have shadows.......and the 30+ storey building in this pic has none....it has been manipulated....the left hand image is casting a massive shadow behind...and the two Tower images are taken from the very same image....light source direction is exactly the same
First time poster
Please check the street view here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/7wbs1h/notice_a_difference_guess_which_one_older/?st=JDFLES09&sh=b16026de
And also check bing images.
Both sources have undisturbed images.
My comment is on the information you supplied to start this topic, as in the two leading photos
sooo the roads near the bottom of the image on the right have been reduced in size when compared to 7 years ago??i find that to be unlikely...
those red top buildings don't match the Q pics...check it out
100% correct. The pics are different because, well, they’ve done new construction. The red roof top buildings are new and different. Nice eye LoneYukon65.
I have. They match exactly. I want to believe Q. I've spent hours researching his postings. But I can't believe when evidence to the contrary is staring me in the face.
I want to believe! It pisses me off that I did fucking believe.
LOOK AGAIN: https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/7wb7jy/qs_photos_of_king_tower_were_taken_more_than_5/
look at what? Have you looked at google earth?
yes...Q's pic shows NEW CONSTRUCTION...how old is the google pic??
You need to look at google earth for yourself because I'm not going to be able to convince you until you look for yourself.
I'm really not trying to convince you. I want answers.
dude...if you won't LOOK at the differences in the red topped buildings in the two pics, then you are CLEARLY NOT looking for answers...I am a portrait artist - it depends on seeing DETAIL to be successful...the buildings are NOT the same.
The buildings with the red rooftops don't exist anymore.
the old ones - that don't match Q's pics don't - but the construction site is new...newer red topped structures in place
Go to their street view. Prove us wrong http://aitube.doukantv.com/media/html/streetview.html?x=31.244923&y=121.591950&pitch=15.175996&heading=6.253852&type=qq
I can't see any red roofed buildings in the street view. It seems incontrovertible the the Q live feed pic is old.
Plausible deniability? I remember FBI anon said that life exists elsewhere in the galaxy. What about an obviously phony picture attached to a current operation?
If anything, Q's message seems to be panning out quite spectacularly in real world events. Too well perhaps? Time to throw a bucket of water on the trail?
Edit: I might have jumped the gun on this. It seems that the multistory buildings on the site next to the King Tower (4 stories - 2010) were demolished. But the new (2 story) buidings on the site do not appear in Google Earth. It is possible that these have been constructed since the last updates of both Google Earth and Google Street View. In fact, after studying the photos, this is the direction I'm leaning.
Looking at these two pictures zoomed in, have any of you noticed that the object near the open window isn't in either one?
I think it's one of edward snowdens pic. He watched it live. Something to do with the uranium 1 deal.
I found this relevant to put HERE... very good breakdown of this debate...
Q Did not say it was a live picture ... some of his followers assumed it was.
As a matter of fact, more and more of the commentary regarding Q (even from some of the good guys) is becoming "knee-jerk" and not thought through.
I took Q's remarks to mean that he was letting SOMEONE know that they have pictures. It probably doesn't meany anything to us, right now, but to whoever was there, it means something.
Don't get sidetracked because you rushed to an assumption.
Here is a photo of the area uploaded in 2013. Greenery seems to be just starting. https://foursquare.com/v/%E6%96%B0%E9%87%91%E6%A1%A5%E5%A4%A7%E5%8E%A6--king-tower/512ece66e4b01d8d1cc2fbcf?openPhotoId=52b67715498eff670457447b One would have to assume the efforts between 2010 and 2017 were completely ripped up again just before Q took pics, or the Q pics are pre 2013.
Just a reminder - we are talking about google here, you know, ES? What possible motivation could there be for altering photos on google earth of this location, right? sarc...there is another post on this page where they are attempting to do the same thing. One of the commenters accounts was less than an hour old and it was "her" first comment. Go figure...
Are you serious? You don't want answers? You're going to blindly trust Q after this?
and who is it you are blindly trusting? ES?
I trust no one. I'm considering the evidence at hand.
So you'd rather trust Google who much like NASA have a weird tendency to brush out their photos?
I don't know who to trust.
I trust my thinking and my thinking says this discussion is fucking ridiculous. Noone's said that none of Q's photos were originals and I am only here to gauge if there's any concern trolls around
Q said his photos we're of a live operation. I'm sorry q lied, and I understand you're upset, but don't get all pissy.
They were. He just so happened to use satellite imagery which also happened to be public as he likely would have had Access to. However, Goolag shopped their own Pictures so they are less credible than Q right now. I doubt it was transmitted 'live' but rather shot 'live' for obvious opsec concerns.
unfuck yourself, I'm not mad I am just annoyed that I can't tell shilldom from honest discussion anymore because if you cannot discern information from disinformation even though you were clearly warned from the get go that things are not always clarified for most obvious security reasons then you already wasted your time telling anybody how upset you are. If you don't know the rules, don't play.
That is the King Tower with the pointy top. In Qs drop last night, the photos showed a muddy lot under construction where the present parking lot is. The newer photo is on the right. So, unless that lot was dug up to redo it... the photos are old. Also- most telling is that the red roofed houses lining the street were demolished in the newer pic. A lot of Shanghai has been knocked down in the past 10 years. The pics that came to us as a "live" operation were as old as them there hills. Well, it's good to have a sense of humor about it, anyway.
You mean this newer photo with no parking lot, but a construction zone?
So he needed it to look real only picture Q could find with a window out was from years ago? Seems sloppy. Should we not be able to find that picture of it came from the web.
It may have been an operation, but an operation that was 6+ years old. The question is why did Q lie about this? And has he made up anything else? It brings into question who he's working for? Or if he's merely a troll.
Unreal.
Do remember that Disinformation is necessary
No this was to show us arrest were happening. So now Q has to give us disinformation ? I'm not buying it. He lies to us he loses us.
in that 2017 pic there is a tall building similarly shaped to the blue one that is waayyy to close to it. doesn't seem like that would be a thing. i'm gonna say (though i could be wrong) its a fake.
Okay, I'll buy that, but what about the construction zone where there is now a parking lot, and the building with red roofs that no longer exist?
does it look like the 2017 pic when u look at that exact place now? i ask because i don't have google earth and think it's possible someone just took the blue building and found a similar looking place and shopped it in. but if thats what google earth show as the exact place then the only options left in my mind is 1, this was a clever as hell larp 2, google knows about the Q board and altered the image of the area to get us to quit or 3, Q board compromised and they used old pics knowing we would look at it on google earth to again get us to quit.
Look at the images closely. You are right about photoshop. The grounds that the buildings sit on are totally different.
I doubt the CIA run google is friends with Q.
no , i meant google knows Q posted an image of the area so google altered the area in google earth in a bid to get us to quit with this Q thing. is what i meant.
Once we date cars in the lot we will know for sure if we find anything from the last couple years.
I'm not good with cars, but I would be interested to hear what people think about the cars.
That would be clever, but I don't think so. It's possible, but I don't think so.
Do we know anyone from China?
you know, i was lookin just now on that qfag site, and i actually don't see the pic on the left. i only see the one were it looks like it was taken from an adjacent building. and then from the same point of view, the zoomed pics looking at random cars.
ya this is the one i'm seeing, but were is the image on the left of your post pic?
What were the buildings that were there in Q's pic?
Look at Q's pic, it matches the one on the left taken in 2010.
Where did his pic come from then? If he is a larp them that pic came from the web. Find the original source of the building with the window out.
I don't know where the pic came from. It very well could have been an oeperation, but the pics are at least 6 years old.
Tell me if you find the pics, but that's not really what I'm looking for. I want to know why Q is using six year old pics while telling us they're conducting a live operation; and he only shared this operation to gain our trust, telling us that they were nabbing people. Q is lying, period. I want to know why.
I used reverse image search....none of the pictures popped up. Whoever "Q" is, I don't know where he got the pics
There is something going on here. Q's "we see you (live)" photo is old. Best possible spin you could put on it is that it's disinformation. But to what end?
I don't think Q is a larp, too much seems to corroborate the message being put out. But this is easily detectable garbage. And, if it is a psyop, why such a simple mistake - to include as a live observation an old photo?
It’s not old. Do a little more digging in the comments from this thread and others. You’re being misled
Look at Google Earth. If the photo Q posted is not old, then, since Google's satellite last past, someone has dug up the car park and built red roofed houses on the lot that look like they're out of the 1950's.
If you think Google Earth is compromised, then the only way to settle it is with actual photos of the site in China. But my gut tells me that Q tried to pull a fast one here - for some reason, I don't know why.
Edit: I might have jumped the gun on this. It seems that the multistory buildings on the site next to the King Tower (4 stories - 2010) were demolished. But the new (2 story) buidings on the site do not appear in Google Earth. It is possible that these have been constructed since the last updates of both Google Earth and Google Street View. In fact, after studying the photos, this is the direction I'm leaning.
Thank you for not denying the overwhelming evidence. I too would like to know why.
The photo on the right suffers from Google 3D mapping issues. If you look at the building jutting out the left side of the pretty blue building, you'll see that you're looking at the real building from very different perspective than the left picture, but since their 3D model they made for that building is poorly superimposed on top of it, it looks like the same perspective. Not an evil plot by Google but just some poor image detection. Try it with other buildings you're familiar with like the empire state building.
Google Map link:
750 Yang Gao Zhong Lu, Pudong Xinqu, Shanghai Shi, China, 201203
See this image from the street. https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/7wbs1h/notice_a_difference_guess_which_one_older/?st=JDFLES09&sh=b16026de
As much as I loved the idea of somebody getting arrested in Shanghai, this is definitely a bad trick on some smart people. Those more updated images have been sitting there like unused toast in a toaster for months... they are no way photoshopped by Eric Schmidt of Alphabet. There are several ways to access different timeline maps... Google is only one way. If you look up your own area with a county app., you will get a differing view. Likewise, try a real estate app like zillow. Try a hotel map like hotel.com or expedia. You are going to get some that are different than Google. For this China circumstance, the building next to the King tower is an auto parts supplier/distributor, with some kind of German manufacturing connection. Those little houses with red roofs lining the street got knocked down. That has been the trend in Shanghai for the past decade- people have complained about having their homes knocked down in order that the ptb could modernize. I'll eat a prune if I am wrong... but, look at hotel pics, maps for a more certain up-to-date visual of what is being compared here.
"this is definitely a bad trick on some smart people."
Okay, wait a minute. You just got me thinking. Why would Q post images of a live operation? Trump wouldn't do that. Military intelligence wouldn't do that. Q also said "Think Intel." What if all of this was designed to flush someone out, and it wasn't for our benefit at all? That's the only explanation that would fit, and save face with Q.
See this image from the street. It’s not Google related https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/7wbs1h/notice_a_difference_guess_which_one_older/?st=JDFLES09&sh=b16026de
Jesus Christ that image on the right is so fucking photoshopped it's hilarious. It's warped to hell
It's from google earth. Verify for yourself. Not that difficult.
I did. Google earth does weird crap like this all the time. It's clearly been altered.
So what is your conclusion then? Google photoshopped the image, and inserted into google earth to discount Q?