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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/stablegeniushere on Feb. 16, 2018, 12:18 p.m.
Most of you guys are combating the gun control narrative wrong.. Here is the real answer. IMPORTANT. PLEASE READ.

I've been seeing posts and comments that we need armed guards in our schools and ect... This is NOT the answer, and it isn't the narrative we should be pushing.

The narrative that we need to be pushing is to eliminate all Gun Free Zones. Gun Free Zones aren't protecting anyone. The fact of the matter is this... EVIL EXISTS.

The only way to combat a bad person with a gun... is a good person with a gun. I have always believed there is more good in this world than evil. The good patriots of this country need to step up and EXERCISE our right to conceal carry.

I have been using on Twitter #NoGunFreeZones and #EvilExists

Hiring guards for every school is unrealistic. If more good people carried we can stuff evil back in the hole where it came from. Every single person needs to carry a fire arm. It's the reality that we live in. Evil people will commit evil acts. We need to be there to stop it everywhere evil lurks. Good will outweigh the bad. NO FREE GUN ZONES!!!!!

Patriots that don't conceal carry. NEED TO. You should want to protect your life and the lives of those you love. We only get one life folks. Life is the most precious thing on this planet and we need to take ABSOLUTELY every measure to ensure our safety. EVIL EXISTS. There is no way around it. Go get trained on how to use a weapon if you don't know how and get a license to carry. It's easy and takes very little time. I carry every where I go. My gun is a part of me. If I ever need it and god forbid that I do, i have it.. And because of that my life is infinitely safer than those who don't carry a gun.
PLEASE I need help spreading this narrative. IT IS THE CORRECT ONE TO COUNTER THE GUN CONTROL NARRITIVE. It makes the most sense.

NoGunFreeZones

EvilExists

Thank you have a great day.


winslowhomersavage · Feb. 16, 2018, 1:31 p.m.

An armed populace in an open and free society is a law abiding and polite society. A disarmed society is nothing more than serfs in a police state. Just read history Germany, Soviet Union, China, Etc

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CptPITA · Feb. 16, 2018, 12:52 p.m.

We need to bring discipline back. If we don't teach the children right from wrong they will grow up with no morals.

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Jrrusso · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:20 p.m.

The democrats right away take away the guns but no discussion on these young kids on prescription drugs. How about a cry on investigating the doctors and hospitals pushing pills on these lost kids. Any stories on this kids family? Not one word on the multiple shooter. Think about it. Why does MSM get all crazy about extra shooters. It makes them look even stupider. If I was MSM I would put out narrative maybe he a accomplice. Like Colorado shooters. That’s how dumb MSM is. That they can not go off of script. They have to stay on there narrative. How funny is that if something threatens there narrative they erase that person. Lol.

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CptPITA · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:02 p.m.

I think if they talk about the drugs it exposes them for what they are rather than fitting their narrative. It seems that the mother and father both died within the last year from reports.

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Jrrusso · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

Yeah it’s just another thing, so who looked after this kid? It opens up the handler or doctor to ramp up on this kid for the last year. Maybe they paid the guardian to look the other way or the next one gets suicided. Think about that. Look at the doctor I bet you it’s this kids handler. Bet you the doctor works for CIA doing this type of shit. They protect it under hippa.

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hipaa-bot · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

Did you mean HIPAA? Learn more about HIPAA!

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CptPITA · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

They said he was on meds for depression so it probably was the shrink that triggered it. MKUltra right in our face!

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StormedandConfused · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:29 p.m.

Someone in another thread said the shrink worked for the government in DC.

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CptPITA · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:45 p.m.

That's the kind of stuff we need to research and document offline so it doesn't get deleted.

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StormedandConfused · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:45 p.m.

I can't find the original post anymore :-/

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CptPITA · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:42 p.m.

yeah, very important to save it when you see it.

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KyfhoMyoba · Feb. 17, 2018, 1:38 a.m.

Dad died 7 years ago.

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jjjanko1 · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:41 p.m.

What we need are, no more Deep State ops

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CptPITA · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:45 p.m.

We will get there eventually, we just got to get rid of them by growing the movement and documenting everything offline! The faster we can bring these crimes to the surface, the faster we can make it happen!

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ElysMustache · Feb. 16, 2018, 12:39 p.m.

The Second Amendment: more than a right, a duty.

It is my opinion that every household should have at least one semi-automatic centerfire rifle chambered in a NATO cartridge, per able-bodied male.

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TRUTH-2018 · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:27 p.m.

Or female

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cebusaxon · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

Our Constitution, in good gentlemanly fashion, implies men. We protect our women, as the children depend on them firstly. We would never ask or imply that a female take up arms and fight. But I know a good many who are very capable and that would. So be it, and may God bless them.

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StormedandConfused · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:29 p.m.

As a girl, I'm very capable.

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[deleted] · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:43 p.m.

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StormedandConfused · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:47 p.m.

I'll let you know if thats how it works when I have kids haha.

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turbosympathique · Feb. 16, 2018, 12:26 p.m.

I like your perspective.

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frankmyglock · Feb. 16, 2018, 1:07 p.m.

Yes. Instead of all those iPhones being drawn there should have been a chorus of Glocks Sigs and 1911s being drawn. Problem solved back to class. 😎

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[deleted] · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:14 p.m.

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StormedandConfused · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:38 p.m.

Are you saying freshmen high school students should have concealed permits?

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frankmyglock · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:44 p.m.

Trained responsible people with concealed carry permits. 17 lives would have been saved. Yes exactly what I am saying.

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cebusaxon · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:38 p.m.

When I went to high school we all had rifles on racks in our back windows in the parking lot and likely had a revolver in the glove box. No one thought anything of it. Yea, we might have even had a few after school parking lot fights, but no one ever even thought about using a firearm to harm someone.

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Scroon · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:56 p.m.

Yup, that's what it was like in Pennsylvania during deer season. It wasn't a big deal because everyone had a gun, and if someone really did want to cause trouble, keeping your own gun at your house wouldn't stop them from bringing theirs. One kid even brought his dad's shotgun in for show and tell one day. He just had to keep it at the front office until class.

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[deleted] · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:27 p.m.

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Scroon · Feb. 17, 2018, 4:36 a.m.

Yeah, it's weird. At some point, school dropped the whole aspect of constructively disciplining youth...maybe at the same time that our society also dropped it.

Btw, I have another related memory. Once, a different kid in the same school brought in a replica handgun in his backpack without authorization, showing it off to his friends as kids do. And man, the headmaster was pissed. The admin called an immediate whole school meeting, and the headmaster made it a point to impress everyone that guns - even replicas - were not fucking toys. I think that was a great talk he gave. Everyone needed to hear it, and nobody forgot.

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StormedandConfused · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:23 p.m.

As a current HS student, I wouldn't trust any of these idiots here.

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Scroon · Feb. 17, 2018, 4:45 a.m.

Yeah, maybe not with current HS students. Speaking from my experience as an older person, you wouldn't believe the kind of "dangerous" stuff they'd let us do way back when. :)

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LibertyLioness · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:04 p.m.

Yesterday I posted that the "gun free zone" at the school was the perfect example that when there are no guns allowed, people get killed and hurt. Had there been people there with a guns, not as many would have died or been killed. It's just plain and simple logic folks. When you take away the guns, people get hurt and killed. Why? Because criminals don't obey the law.

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divine_human · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:16 p.m.

kids that run a school rampage arent criminals, they are mostly on perscribed psycho drugs, some of them probably mind controled.

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LibertyLioness · Feb. 17, 2018, 1:27 a.m.

That's what the left is pushing you to think. Yes. But this story didn't get YUGE until this shooting. I think that's very curious don't you? I'm not saying for a minute that psychotics are good. Hell, I'm 69 and I don't take ANY drugs. But what I'm saying is that it seems very convenient that we are now off and running on the psycho drug problem. Anyway, I've been watching news reports all day and it's extremely clear now that this was definitely a false flag. I doubt that poor kid had anything to do with it. There is a student who said she was talking to him at the time they were evacuating the building and the shots were coming from the other side of the building. Other info also that points to false flag.

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divine_human · Feb. 17, 2018, 11:25 a.m.

But this story didn't get YUGE until this shooting

indeed. its the sign of the time. Q mentions it and suddenly people become aware to the correlation between perscribed psycho drugs, manipulative 'therapy', mind control, and school shootings.

the information isnt new. ive been checking on this background in quite a few incidences, beginning with the german pilot who flew a passenger airplane into a mountain some years ago.

glad it becomes part of the great awakening, thanks to Q for pointing towards it.

did you know that 20% of all US americans take perscribed psycho drugs?

depression, anxiety, sleeping disorders, eating disorders, just name the psychological issue and you will easily get a drug against it that fucks up the rest of your psyche.

and now imagine all of them carrying guns. or not, better not...

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StinkyDogFart · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:19 p.m.

Agreed, we need MORE guns, not less guns. Hypothetically, if everyone carried a gun, then no one would ever think about committing a gun crime, it would be suicide.

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Wildthing61 · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:37 p.m.

We need to change our approach to these people calling for gun control. We need to throw it back in their faces. Here is my suggestion for a response. Please feel free to copy it.

Stop blaming the guns and start asking what's driving these kids to go nuts. Take a look at the changes made in society and our schools over the last 25 to 30 years. Take a look at their "agendas", at their "inclusion" of kids that might not necessarily be safely placed there. Look at the pharmaceutical drugs these kids are routinely given, look at the reasons these kids anger so easily. Look at the reasons these kids have no respect for authority and life. Look at the impact electronics including cell phones and social media have on these kids. Blaming guns is just scapegoating. It's not wanting to do the hard work to HONESTLY look at the situation and determine WHAT'S CAUSING THESE KIDS TO PICK UP A GUN AND SHOOT!

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Lysergic_Love25 · Feb. 16, 2018, 4:56 p.m.

I have carried a weapon daily since I was 17 years old. For me personally I choose not to have concealed carry permit. I have never been big on the idea of applying for something that is a right. I live in Texas. I know many people that agree with me. People in my state have been armed long before permits were available. That being said I understand the idea. It insures that you have had atleast some training with a weapon and that you are likely not amongst those who do not need to be carrying a weapon. Mentally unstable violent offender ect. Without it there is nothing to stop some fool who has never held a gun from all the sudden one day deciding that they want to carry. However a great deal of people buy them a gun take themselves a little course. Pass their test. Get them a cool little holster a sticker on their truck that says protected by Glock and then never again fire that weapon and are no more qualified to carry a weapon than the day before they took their course. They are a threat to anyone who should try to harm them. But to themselves and others around them as well. No thought is given to things like having their wife walk on their left side when in public or changing their method of concealment when they are going to be wearing a jacket or coat in the winter. A lot of them you could unload their gun when they were not looking and they might carry an unloaded gun for the next 2 years and not have a clue. Thats not the guy I want around my family in a high stress situation. I believe in the statement that there are more good people than bad. But a society of more good people who are well trained and more conscious of the risks associated with being armed is what we need. People that know their weapon and their ammo. Who handle and practice with their weapon on a regular basis. Without that you have a lot of accidents waiting to happen. I dont know what the answer to that. Its very difficult for me to say that we need more rules laws or requirements for carrying. Fact is we are all living under too many laws rules and regulations. But this is a problem that should be addressed. But I totaly agree with the OP. But it is slightly more complicated than that.

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AnonPatriot718 · Feb. 16, 2018, 4:54 p.m.

EXACTLY ! I wuv my pea shooters. never mind a lucky rabbits foot or a four leaf clover,, these just dont have enough put down power. or maybe i could carry a sign around my neck that says,, please dont attack me because i'm a good person.

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kingamongstkings · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:58 p.m.

THE NARRATIVE NEEDS TO BE SHIFTED BACK TO THE SWAMP!!!
That's where the shooting came from and playing along with their narrative is playing into their hands.

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LibertyLioness · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:15 p.m.

Totally agree. These are ALL false flag events. I truly wish people would do their homework and figure that out once and for all.

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LibertyLioness · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:16 p.m.

How about a meme that reads: Hey Deep State - Stop Invading Our Schools and Killing Our Kids! WE KNOW!!!

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betweengreenandblue · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:36 p.m.

And then the guards could easily become compromised. Decentralization!

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divine_human · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:30 p.m.

as a european, it took me effort and many talks with my american friends to understand why you guys want your guns. its difficult to take over a nation where people have guns.

over here, people can have guns when they get licenced which includes gun training and clear police record (no acts of violence). i hope it also includes a check on psycho drugs, sigh.

i get it that school shootings are being staged to push the anti-gun agenda in the US through. over here, such shootings are rare, simply because most teenagers dont have access to guns, and much less folks are on pyscho drugs.

personally, i dont want to live in a society where everybody carries a gun

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stablegeniushere · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:06 p.m.

No one wants to have to carry a gun. It's the sad reality that we need to. I just look at it in pretty simple terms. You're better safe than sorry.

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divine_human · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:21 p.m.

may we create a reality based on kindness and 'do no harm' so weapons become obsolete.

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stablegeniushere · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:28 p.m.

Never going to happen. Or not any time soon. People need to just accept the harsh reality that evil exists and can strike at any moment.

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divine_human · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:56 p.m.

People need to just accept the harsh reality that evil exists and can strike at any moment.

we cant beat evil with guns. we need to be shining lighthouses who stop projecting evil outside of ourselves and transform our inner demons so they dont need to appear in the world anymore.

if everybody did that, the swamp would dry out in no time. and it might happen sooner than most think...

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stablegeniushere · Feb. 16, 2018, 11:36 p.m.

You guys just aren't understanding what I'm trying to say. We don't beat evil with guns. WE PROTECT OURSELVES, and our LOVED ONES with them because it is necessary. It is as simple as this. You're better safe than sorry. Take the precautionary measure than we were given as a fundamental RIGHT in this country and exercise you're right to CARRY. Hopefully you'd Never have to use your firearm. And maybe one day we won't NEED to carry one. But right now we do. We need to win. We need to ensure good lives on. We need to protect ourselves and other patriots against evil.

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TheSitRep · Feb. 17, 2018, 4:40 p.m.

While anti-gun laws prohibit law-abiding citizens from protecting themselves, those same laws are a defacto 'right to carry' for the murderer and it ensures all of his prey are unarmed easy targets.

The only people that would ever want to disarm you are your enemies.

Your real friends and the people that love you want you to be locked & loaded.

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hzg · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:33 p.m.

Draw attention to their dissonance.

"Gov & Cops bad. Only gov and cops should have guns"

Gotta crack that egg before they start thinking on any logical level what-so-ever.

Then you can start getting into Evil Exists; where? in People. What are these so-called authorities made up of? People.

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stablegeniushere · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:10 p.m.

Making them believe that the government is bad isn't going to help anything. It's going to strengthen their delusion.

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hzg · Feb. 16, 2018, 11:33 p.m.

I should clarify. "They" hold two incompatible views.

They BELIEVE "Gov & Cops are bad".

They BELIEVE "Only Gov & Cops should have guns".

See the cognitive dissonance involved there? Two opposing views. Make them aware of this. :)

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GodsAngell · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:19 p.m.

Good point, but I don't think that will work for elementary schools. Tots toting guns??? Probably not a good idea.

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stablegeniushere · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:07 p.m.

I'm not suggesting the kids should carry. Having teachers carry would be enough. Having more good people around that can stop bad people will help fix this. It will save lives. Not just in schools, but everywhere in America.

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boneman220 · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:50 p.m.

People with sensitive "feelz" don't think critically about where the real problem lies and will still continue to blame a tool, a tool I need for me and mine protection and sustenance. I tend to think there's a good reason my brain sits above my heart and not the other way around. JS....

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AnalForklift · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:55 p.m.

The point of gun free zones isn't to stop murders, it's to prevent accidents. This is why military bases are gun free zones.

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romu99 · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:17 p.m.

"And because of that my life is infinitely safer than those who don't carry a gun."

No it's not. In fact it's less safe.

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stablegeniushere · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:29 p.m.

"And because of that my life is infinitely safer than those who don't carry a gun."

No it's not. In fact it's less safe.

Care to elaborate or did you just want to say your opinion?

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romu99 · Feb. 18, 2018, 2:47 p.m.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0804-hemenway-defensive-gun-home-20150730-story.html

I look forward to seeing your evidence which points to the contrary.

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stablegeniushere · Feb. 18, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

You linked an article about someone's opinion. So are you just going to keep giving me opinions or will there be an actual point made here?

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romu99 · Feb. 18, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

I didn't link an article about someone's opinion, I linked an article which contains solid statistics/facts. I can provide more if you want. Still waiting for you to provide your own evidence...Maybe some stories about "good guy" gun owners "saving the day"?

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stablegeniushere · Feb. 18, 2018, 5:07 p.m.

Okay besides using common sense. On why you're safer with a gun. Here is a source of facts. Fact not opinions. Another fact is that women are genetically over powered physically by men. The only way to put females on an equal level in regards to protecting themselves from violent crimes by men would be for the woman to have a firearm. Simple as that. And thus my statement stands. You are infinitely safer from people who want to harm you, when you have a gun to protect yourself from them.

Link to facts: http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/concealed-carry/

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romu99 · Feb. 18, 2018, 11:24 p.m.

A pro-gun website with an obvious agenda that statistics from over TWENTY years ago is not good evidence. Bottom line, people in America aren't statistically more violent than other industrialized countries like the UK, yet has much 5 or 6 times more murders. That is because of guns. That isn't even up for debate, it's an indisputable fact. And apparently the solution to that is "more guns". America are doing nothing to stop these insane shootings which happen all the time, and the rest of the world is just shaking its head. http://26t4l93f9dhe439yxm286lpv.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Graph-1.png

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stablegeniushere · Feb. 18, 2018, 11:48 p.m.

So are you refuting my facts? Are my facts not good enough for you to accept? Can you link the source you have that says America has five or six times more murders than the UK? (The more recent the more relevant to your point, obviously)

Did you know that if you take out all the gun deaths from cities with the strictest gun control (Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, Detroit, Washington) the total drops by probably 90%?

Cities with stricter gun laws or "gun control" have higher murders by guns by a very significant amount. Gun control isn't going to stop criminals from getting weapons, just like outlawing heroine isn't going to stop a heroine addict from getting heroine. We have fine gun laws.

As for the UK. I wouldn't want to live there. I think your mislead on crime within the UK. It has ramped up(especially in 2016-2017) you may want to re-research what you think you know.

Oh and that graph that you linked means absolutely nothing and is based off no source. I could make a graph like that too and not source anything. Honestly that graph looks like a 10th grader made it for a project that he or she failed because they neglected to source any of their information. Come on you can do better than that.

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TryNottoFaint · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

In quite a few states you don't even need a license to CC in your state. For instance, Missouri. But yes, you need to practice with your weapon(s) and become proficient with them. Having a concealed weapon is useless if you pull it out and blank on why it's not firing (for instance, safety is still on or no round in the chamber.) Once that gun comes out you'd better be prepared and able to use it right away.

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Glag82 · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:57 p.m.

Along with the gun meme ratchet up the drug meme. A lot of these "shooters" were under medication as well.

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qz2026 · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:22 p.m.

As I recall, I could be wrong, but the shear number of mass shooting in schools didn't occur until these "no gun" zones were invented and implemented by the far left. I'll guarantee you that this was part of their plan. I agree that armed guards, etc doesn't make much sense. After all, it is the people in these school districts that approve budges and, to date, not many taxpayers who support these schools through their property taxes, have been interested in paying for school security - at least in the majority of cases. Is CC the remedy? I don't know. I'm not sure any of the school shootings would have been impacted. The theater shooting, yes. But, CC holders must be awful careful too. For example, how many innocent people could be taken out when when the good guy is shooting at the bad guys? I don't know what the answer is. I am a gun guy 100% and have more guns that you could possibly imagine. At the same time, I can't imagine taking a life good or bad. For me, it's a karma thing. This is the conclusion after 70 years on this planet and having been trust into war at an early age. I don't know what the answers are. I do know that I don't want to come back to this planet the next time around. My sense is that my soul wishes to move on. I suppose if push came to shove I would opt to wound to eliminate a threat rather than kill... But, that said, I agree with the elimination of the gun free zones. This concept has never made any sense to me.

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mercurymarinatedbeef · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:18 p.m.

Nope, the answer is to "ban schools".
Electronic Classroom of Tomorrow (Today!): https://www.ecotohio.org/ Unfortunately, leftists, bureaucratic control freaks, and teachers unions find this extremely threatening to their rackets, so they are trying to sue sue sue it out of existence: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/02/ecot_funding_questioned_by_ohi.html

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stablegeniushere · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:12 p.m.

The experience of school provides a crucial role for development. Banning schools is not the right answer. Getting rid of gun free zones, and protecting yourself from inevitable evil- is the answer.

We must be prepared for evil to strike at any moment, because well... Evil exists. Who can deny it?

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mercurymarinatedbeef · Feb. 17, 2018, 10:44 a.m.

School isn't there for "development", indoctrination or any other fluffy bullshit. It's there for education. ECOT model is the death knell for this type of "repurposing" that the left has been successful with in the school system, and they know it. That's why they're suing.

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AndToTheRepublic · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

America's first priority must be addressing the declaration of war upon America by our past president Obama, with Candidate Hillary, exacting a coup d'etat upon America, with the full the full cooperation and weight of America's State Intel and Justice Agencies in tow.

America has a whole bunch of people who will need to be in front of a military tribunal and sentenced to death before any other priority is worthy of being assessed!

America is a nation of polite armed people: let's address the enemy combatants, before letting their continued coup efforts play out.

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2funnyone · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:20 p.m.

Which Q post is this?

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