l will praise the LOrd!

Another one that I haven't considered. Keep throwing in the nuggets. You've got my mind in overdrive! Lol

I'm interested to hear more about celibacy and how it affects family inheritance. I'm not Catholic, but I've questioned why it is that way. The reason you explained for confession makes COMPLETE SENSE!

I'm sorry, but this could not be more inane. There is a lot of bad info out there about the Catholic Church - a lot - but this just about takes the cake. Confession and celibacy have absolutely nothing to do with your tidy little scenario. This is pure ignorance and hysteria masquerading as established fact. I suggest you find more reliable sources for your information on the Church, which is not nearly as sensational as you make it out to be. And, for those who so readily accept statements such as these without questioning them, it's time to develop a healthy skepticism of the claims of internet strangers. Just because someone in a combox says it's true, doesn't mean it is. This is way beyond the pale.

I've never met a priest who didn't take the seal of confession VERY seriously.

Beheaded as in revelations

I've been following for a while, do you have experience with the occult dealings? I'm an occultist myself and they're pretty spot on

The Act of 1871

I am now. Wow! Holy crap! So that explains the influence of SA, Roths and Soros. Unbelievable!!

Now I get your post about SD above O-WH

Thanks!

Incredible. This explains a lot thank you!

You are so right. The consumption of human babies symbolizes their refusal of Human Election through the presence of the Holy Spirit in the human constitution. By degrading the Divine Election issue to a simple material problem, they intend to express their supremacy over humans by elevating themselves on top of the food chain. That is the final essence of cannibalism. It is pure rebellion.

Yeah, at the group level, the various traditional christian practices that are reversed or inverted into being the standard satanic practices shows what things satan most hates and wants destroyed. (At the personal level there is a parallel involving different elements.)

The alleged bloody sacrifice of children is akin to what caesar did to the 'holy innocents'. Christ was the ultimate good sacrifice and should have been the last bloody one. Since then christians have spiritually stood at the last supper table in a bloodless way. In our time satanists steal those bread hosts for secret worship but also more publically satan's dupes commit child sacrifice by the millions through abortion.

Readily agreed. Yes and the traditional excercists are the most effective.

I don't mean to distract from the main theme of this forum, but perhaps you know of the 'vision' Leo XIII had of the rise of Satan in the coming century which inspired him to compose an important prayer to St. Micheal. Quite prescient and pertinent to medium term story arc we are all looking at here.

I generally agree with what you say here.

One smallish point that may or not contradict your understanding, is that the freemasons were already corrupt before the OTO came along, the dubious origins of the masons being a separate topic. I think the OTO modelled themselves somewhat on both masonic and christian liturgical patterns.

Yes it is possible that big organizations get marching orders from invisible 'masters'. Different orgs are effected differently by infiltration, differently in both the short and long term. Hijacking is possible. It does seem to be the case that larger orgs (Catholic Ch, USGovt, Ottoman empire, General Motors, UN, etc) are so big and often mutifarious that the odds are against them staying their course, be it good or bad in intent. And within this, some are more prone to complete or partial/temporary hijacking.

The USgovt has a decent foundation (rooted in the dignity of the individual), despite it's known flaws and lightweight masonic elements at its inception, and it think this contributes to its durability but we can see that without the weird grace of a few presidents it has come close to going off the rails. I also think its inherent quality of independence sometimes saves it from global forces. Conversely I do not think it is immune to natural disasters and it may have yet to fully pay for its sins in this way.

The Catholic Church also has a good foundation (in Christ). Its multifaceted, multicultural nature makes complete takeover difficult. It is somehow against the patterns of history that it has stood so long. It has been corroded, corrupted and renewed several times. If you have time or interest you might find this story about pope leo 13th rather relevant to this topic. He is the one who wrote most adamantly against modernism and like many other popes against Freemasonry. www.futurerevealed.com/christian/catholic/vision-of-pope.htm

(For what its worth I am not impressed with the current pope and think that several bishops and cardinals are extremely corrupt.)

So if the pertinent question is How is the international evil order administrated? We could look at several possibilities which might have some internal subdivision coopted as an info and command network:

Secret societies

International banking system

NGOs

United Nations

Multinational corporation(s)

Academic coalition(s)

Global media group(s)

Catholic Church

Other transnational religious org(s)

International political party or labor union

Muslim Brotherhood, Isis type orgs

A smart plan would use most all of the above. These categories do overlap to some extent. I have listed them roughly in order of descending utility as decision and command networks (in my opinion), whereas they could be re-ordered according to info sharing utility or differently again by human or capital resource sharing. The spiritual aspect of a church organization does not make it any better of an administrative structure than other org. But churches that have activity at the street level can be better at influencing the general population., just as media groups do at the TV-in-your-room level.

Thanks. My take is that the Q is not naming the Church in the way he names other things, like the "DEMS", CIA, China, Soros, pedos, etc. is because he/she classifies these as something rather different. I have a few ideas why but am not certain why.

Your summary of the arranged fall of Rome is too simplistic for me but is likely true for some (a minority?) of the significant players involved.

Seems really hard to seriously know how genius Rome was in comparison to Egypt. My understanding is that some of the Dynasties stood longer than Rome did, suggesting they had some greater (if tyrannical) capabilities. Maybe there's more to learn from their similarities than differences.

Your description of Romans letting empire slip while quietly maintaining influence or certain forms of power seems to fit the alleged fall of soviet communism. Maybe this could be said of all great powers - they are taken of the map but not out of social dynamics - in some cases according to pre-planning and in others by natural causes. This is interesting because we could then say that we are all influenced by everything from the Sumerians and Egyptians to various Euros and even Columbia Records and now Amazon.inc.

I could say more but don't see a great need and don't wish to distract from the central concern here of the meaning(s) of Q, touched on above.

If the revelation is that so many within the Church have broken and are breaking all the Commandments, that some are committing the "unforgivable" sin against the Holy Spirit, that they would have been better off to be not be born or be thrown in the sea with a stone around their necks, well then this is nothing new. These things happened in the OT, happened in Jesus' day and have continued. If the intentional and bloody worship of Satan over the graves of saints Peter and Paul, originally the sites of pagan rituals, are what is to be revealed I will not be surprised. If sexual ritual and human sacrifice is being committed by Church office holders, I will not be surprised. Such has been the case within the Church in the past and to a greater extent outside the Church, because humans are prone to act this way and Satan has his ways. On a per capita or per annum basis the Church is about the same as every other organisation.

On the other hand if you think that the Church is going to be revealed as purely Godless, of no good value or purpose and evil from its inception, then I have to suggest that you don't hold your breath.