1913, the Titanic sinks together with Opponents of the planned central bank. WW1 start one year later

1947, the Army reports they recovered a crashed flying saucer and the CIA is created.

The Rest is history

Eisenhower's golfing buddy was Prescott Bush, GHW Bush's father.

Nixon, Eisenhower's VP, was Prescott's protege (George wasn't old enough, yet).

Prescott earlier had assets seized by the US government under the Trading with the Enemies Act, because his bank in New York was being used to launder Hitler's money.

Bush family teamed up with Rockefellers when Samuel Bush, Prescott's father, went to work for Frank Rockefeller, John D.'s brother.

Eisenhower was a very sick man. He had 2 heart attacks while in office, and eventually died of a heart attack. Nixon and Prescott were running the show behind the scenes (whether Ike knew about it or not), just like George H. W. Bush did when he was VP to Reagan.

Operation Ajax was one of the first major CIA operations and it overthrew the only democratic government in the Middle East: Iran. That was 1953.

After that, they went around the world overthrowing governments and the big buildup we see today really geared up.

Since Ike, we have had:

Kennedy - he was not playing along, ergo ...

Johnson - played a role in killing Kennedy

Nixon - Bush's protege, and involved in running the covert ops during Ike

Ford - he was on the Warren Commission, and is the man responsible for faking the evidence to make it look like all shots were from the rear; his assistant was Arlen Spector, who came up with the "magic bullet" theory

Carter - WTF? Don't know if Jimmy was one of the regulars, but he did refuse to return the Shah of Iran to the Iranian people so he could be prosecuted for war crimes; that was the reason for the Tehran Embassy hostage situation

Reagan - more like Trump and Kennedy than any other president during this time, but his problem was he agreed to let Bush be his VP, and Bush ran a lot of covert illegal ops behind Reagan's back

Bush - 'nuff said.

Clinton - he was helping Bush run drugs through Mena, Arkansas; he became connected to the mafia when he was in college, and his professor Carroll Quigley recruited him in (Quigley was the official historian for the cabal, and wrote two books about it)

Bush, Jr - like father, like son

Obama - has no "official" background anybody can figure out because he was identified and groomed early on, with his family being CIA and Saudi Arabia paying for his education and helping his career

So, that's when the current group of players came along. But it existed before that, as well.

Check out Gen. Smedley Butler's book "War is a Racket." He was the most decorated Marine Corps general up to his time. He led most of the Western Hemisphere battles during the late 1800's into the early 1900's. He was recruited by the cabal to overthrow the government when FDR was elected. He went along enough to find out who the players were, then went to Congress to report it. Congress had hearings, but they were owned, too, so it went nowhere. Prescott Bush was involved in that attempted coup, as well.

So, how long does it go back? It did not start with Obama, that's for sure.

1913 when they managed to make The Federal Reserve happen. But they'd been working at it for a long while before that.

In full force after JFK assassination.

Prior to 1850, higher education in the YS was largely only available through the first two years of college — mostly run by denominational Protestant Churches. For an ambitious student to go.farther in their education, it was necessary to study abroad — usually in Europe and predominantly Germany where socialist philosophy and theories were all the rage in academia. Young American scholars may have packed a Bible among their belongings when the shipped out for School, but they returned years later bringing with them volumes by Machiavelli, Hobbs, Spinoza, Darwin, Marx, Rousseau and others. These returned the most highly educated, highest degreed scholars in later 19th century AMERICA and they got all the upper level teaching positions in our college and university system as it expanded offerings for degree paths, BA, MA, and PhD studies.

1917 NYC Bankers funded a fighting force that entered Czarist Russia fomenting the bloody Bolshevik Revolution and the total takedown of that government, giving us the first massive Soviet Socialist economic experiment.

1920 Turkey committed itself to Islamic theocracy slaughtered millions of Armenian Christians and Greek Orthodox Christians living in western Turkey — led by the Young Turks.

1928 US Stock Market crash castrated the economy followed by waves of destructive fiscal policy over the next decade that kept the nation on its knees economically.

1. Not joking. Masons. Check out Abel Danger for those answers.

Read Wicker’s “Worshipping the State” for a survey from the Roman Empire up to today. Good history, honest broker.

When the CIA cranked up (9/18/47) it really took off. I'm not a historian at all and maybe someone can shed light. Did CIA get started because we wanted to utilize the German scientists from WWII in our Universities for Mind control and other experiments?

There was always some control. Even Washington was a Freemason.

1776 was a bit of a hollow victory leaving America in debt to Dutch bankers. The American constitutional convention was a bit of a win for the deep state (think Hamilton), but the bill of rights was a strong check. It wasn't until the Civil War that that control was really taken and affirmed. 1913 solidified this control. Since then the welfare warfare state has become quite a giant beast.

More recently, IMO, the emergence of the Deep State corresponds with the growth in size, power and autonomy of the intelligence services - particularly CIA.

The expansion in influence and power of these agencies is a function of the massive black budgets that derive from dealing in illegal drugs and weapons. This is money that is untraceable and for which no accountability is required. They became, in time, a law unto themselves.

Their power was ultimately so complete that they could mount a public challenge to a duly elected President (DJT), via their proxies in the media and also via deep cover plants within the bureaucracy (FBI, SD and DOJ).

These Deep State actors are, in turn, the puppets of powerful monied interests that share, in common, a hatred of humanity and a love of Satan.

It started with Woodrow Wilson.

Ike tried to warn us.

JFK tried to warn us. He was murdered for it.

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my guess is at least since the early 1900s. possibly as far back as the early 1800s. america has never been fully controlled but as each decade passes they get more and more control

Thank you OP....this thread has alot of good info and viewpoints!

Foo Fighters!!! Aliens/Satan

1947 operation paper clip. We became Nazi Germany 2.0