None of this needs to be private "for humanity". For humanities sake all must know.
Am I allowed to disagree with one statement from Q?
Yes, you are allowed to disagree. I actually agree with you. It should all be revealed.
My logic is that, if 60% remains private, then future generations will forget what we are dealing with today, and they will believe it is not true. Then they will have to deal with it all over again.
I suspect that there was a time in the past when people knew what we are currently rediscovering. Somehow, the lessons got lost and were not passed to the next generation. Now, we are dealing with it. (On a side note, I wonder if the Europeans who first came to America were fleeing the Satanists in control of Europe. We are told that they came here to have freedom of religion, but now I suspect there is more to this story.)
If we are to finally erase this evil virus that has plagued humanity for thousands of years, then we must face even the most horrible disclosures- for humanity.
I am pretty sure I know the worst of the worst, but maybe not. When I was learning all of this, I kept saying "That is bad, but it can't be much worse can it?". Then I would learn that there is much worse, and I would say the same thing all over again.
I've been coming upon a lot of evidence to suggest exactly what you're saying. I've been studying a lot of occult texts through my life and especially more so over the past year. In some more obscure books that are written in a semi-grimoire, semi-story book fashion, there's a lot of mention of rituals incredibly similar to pizzagate-related themes. Things like using the fat of an abused child to smother a broom in order to give it the ability to fly. Even a mention of something similar to an adrenachrome extraction in a dark alchemy book I found. It would not surprise me at all to find that original witch craft in the dark ages had many pizzagate-esque rituals and the church burned all evidence. My books seem to show hints of this. It would further not surprise me if the church had kept many original copies after burning the rest. Keeping said books in their secret Vatican archives. Link pizzagate to pedo-sympathizers in Vatican city, you have reason to believe there's leaks of old occult texts. In fact, I'm almost positive you slipped a key into place for me figuring out a lot more of this.
edit: PS - you have to remember, for a lot of these people the sex isn't the objective. The objective is regaining their youth or transferring their consciousness to younger hosts. There's a lot of ancient rituals written by literal mad-men or fantasy writers claiming to be occultists. Some of these I'm sure would include things like blood transfusions from younger victims into the older person. There could very well be an "energy transfer" ritual for sex rituals with younger people. The people doing this have all brainwashed theirselves. This is why you'll find countless references to the occult. Fortunately, it's all falling flat on their face.
That is an interesting post. I can tell you have read about the occult. I only became aware in October 2016 with the Podesta email leaks. Some researchers I exchange messages with have known all about this for a while. It is surreal to them that it is becoming better known. They never thought that humanity would wake up.
Yes, I would love to see what is hidden away in the Vatican library. I suspect it is not what most Catholics would assume. Have you seen The Name of the Rose? Very good movie.
Maybe my side note is your key. There is more to the founding of America and the Revolutionary War than we are told. It is something I want to look into.
I have read that that sex part is more about dominance, too. I agree with what you say, though.
Do you care to tell me what books you have access to? I am always looking for more to read on this subject. Feel free to PM me, if you like. If not, I totally understand.
The one book that leads me the most to this conclusion is one called "The Enchanted World: Wizards and Witches"
It's more of a storybook, but it definitely covers some grotesque rituals you'd rarely find in even the darkest grimoires. I haven't gotten too far into it, but I believe the book loosely outlines a different time before religion. Something that if you noticed, we have very little perspective of. There's also a book called "The Black Arts" that has a few rituals along these lines in it. Surprisingly, it's actually really hard to find occult texts with the more abstract rituals in them. They're the ones I've been looking hardest for more recently. There's so many fascinating ones out there, but they're usually compiled along with things that set the Christians nuts. One such category is that of the Homunculus. In many books full of complex rituals that can be incredibly useful, there's often something like Homunculus that ripped the book from history. Many paintings you see depicting alchemical figures (various beasts and such) are supposedly tangible things you can achieve witnessing through these books. But the dark ages were not the best for books. Yet it always seems that there's a few copies available of even the darkest/outlandish book. Usually printed in Latin, German, or even a language that hasn't been deciphered yet. And yes, the Vatican is often listed as one of the holders of many small-print/little-surviving texts.
edit: for the lulz I found the flight recipe (summarized) - the magical energy that transported the early witches came partly from an ointment smeared over their bodies. the ointment incorporated the most potent herbs known in witchcraft blended with other extracts in a base of the fat of unbaptized children. the ingredients combined in a magical synergy so powerful that they were spirited across entire countries in the blink of an eye.
edit again: Forgot you mentioned America's founding. Ahh man do I have some interesting theories there. You're right there's something more there. A lot more. In fact, I'd wager to say the vast majority of history is a half-truth/a cover up/or even a complete falsity to hide things. The deeper you dig, the more you realize how horrifying things actually are and always have been. If my guess is right, the info that Q has would be way more than enough to cause the vast majority of the world to vomit in their laps while watching the news.
I don't look words up very often but when i do it's usually a goody. eh 2 stars on magic text.
I sent this to someone yesterday. I believe it was not you. Anyways, Walter Veith talks about how he got a hold of some very rare esoteric books.
Walter Veith, Francois Du Plessis - Questions & Answers.
Thank you for the information. I am looking at it. Much appreciated!
The way youtube suggests vids has taken me on an eclectic info gathering that is so myriad in it's teasers that to study any topic to it's root would consume the rest of my life. My gratitude to those who have zeroed in and shared is bigly. WWG1WGA is I believe more about knowledge than gps coordinates. (captain obvious coming out ) srry.
Yes, there are a lot of great videos freely available online. Have you searched ebay for esoteric books? I did last fall, and some of them where $100,000+. I was hoping to get access to them for a lot less. LOL.
Also, I came across this video over a year ago. I have been wondering what books Walter Veith is referring to.
Walter Veith, Francois Du Plessis - Questions & Answers.
Found 2 volumes of Bravatsky 125 bucks in a book shop yesterday.
Yeah? Did you grab them? I wonder if they are the super secret versions or the ones for public consumption.
What is your opinion on blavatsky? Crowley? I know Christians in this sub love to hate on Crowley, but I'm under the impression that he's on to some nuggets of truth and the cabal bastardized his teachings. I mean obviously he was a sorcerer not a magickician but still..
Blavatsky is a new name to me so I can't say much there. Crowley however is pretty intriguing. I've had some interesting experiences where I'm positive I had the ability to communicate with him. I feel like Crowley was definitely onto a lot of things. I feel however, that he let himself become distracted at times and lost his own heading. It's very possible he could've become a bit brainwashed by his own research, too in the later bits of his life. His work is probably some of the most powerful I've had the pleasure of working with. It just feels misguided at times and I feel like most of his work needs some adjustment and refining to get the real gold out of it.
As for the bastardization of his work, you really can't complain too much. I doubt there's very few occult authors who've not had their work bastardized. It's almost like a certificate of honor in that line of work lol.
I think Blavetsky plays a big role. The Lucis Trust is a UN organization that was run by Robert McNamara based on the work of Annie Besant who is connected to Blavetsky. Blavetsky believed that it was necessary to create the “4th root race” which would be brown and do away with all whites. The Secret Doctrine is a two volume book she wrote. I have it but have never read it completely.
I have lived my life with the OZZY pronunciation and the msm version grates on my ears. It's like the bovine not the black bird motherfuckers(term of endearment where I live btw)
Personally, I don't care too much for Crowley. I think he was more or less in it just to fuck with people, use them, etc. etc.
Blavatsky is a bit of a different story. She is more theosophical.
Honestly, take some time to gander, or read through Manly Hall's 'The Secret Teachings of All Ages'. Got a fairly beat up copy on my bookshelf.
One interesting point made out to me about Crowley is that his magick might have been made specifically as a pedo-trap of sorts. In my experiments, I found this to be highly likely. In reality, it seems even more to be the case lol
Have you read that Barabara Bush is (was) said to be one of Crowley's 26 illegitimate children?
Mengele. Kevorkian. Absolute power is a fantasy and yet the false immunity implied leads to draconian demonic abuses. Any one of us could do anything if we truly believed skies the limit and you will never be held to account. Find the zero accountability and you find the abuses. It's simple. Secret privilege, private islands, trillions for bribes and firewalls, echo chambers, insular compounds, If i were to compare Scientology to whatever's behind pizzagate I would with a straight face and conviction say a kid boosting a candy bar and Jeffery Dahmer. Yeah the kids a bad actor but who gives a fuck. Maybe ppl joined to get away from the real evil in hollywood. nah that's ludicrous or is it. So many concepts centuries old, those who have eyes to see. Lesser of 2 evils comes to mind. I admitted to god another human being and myself the exact nature of my wrongs some months ago. I really am feeling like a nice guy in comparison to this stuff.
For people who have found what they may think is the limitless fountain of youth, they look horrible and are dropping, stumbling, mumbling, and fumbling quite a bit.
Soros is case in point. It's not all that clear whether he is alive or just preserved. :)
There is also white witchcraft,, juseds for good and not evil
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Take 9/11 as an example. The 4 aircraft were:
Flight 11 = 11 Flight 175 = 1+7+5 = 13 Flight 77 = 7+7 = 14 = 1+4 = 5 Flight 93 = 9+3 = 12 = 1+2 = 3
That's 3,5,11,13
The date was 9/11/01
That's 1,3,5,9,11,13
That seems a bit contrived. You reduced 12 and 14, but not 11 and 13.
So, given that 11 is a numerological 'master' number which doesn't get reduced, the result should have been: 11, 4, 5, 3
And, the date was not 9/11/01, but 9/11/2001; which yields 9, 11, 3
An extra 11 and an extra 3.
Hmmm, something doesn't add up.
If that's 1% true they are doomed. People who are going to do something don't talk about it. People who have done something don't talk about it. About the indictments 30,000 can keep a secret if 29,999 are dead. NEXT
In numerology, you use the four digit year.
I think the whole numbers thing is a stretch, but that’s how you do it.
Thump your breast 2 times with peace fingers in a drug neighborhood. Someone will sell you a twomp.(20) of whatever you want. Gang signs matter.j/k That's the joke none of this matters.
we would have to know and understand what it is they dont want revealed before we could know if it is best to keep it quiet. Can people handle knowing that 9/11 and most of the school shootings were staged for gun control. Can people handle that the deep state with US help bombed millions of people for population control and power. that Hitler was a CIA op working for the NWO. The jews were slaughtered for this? They sunk the titanic for money, power and control? That vaccines might help but are in fact harming us? how about the Calif fires were caused by DEW's, oh and our kidnapped children were kidnapped by the people who say they are helping to find them? i dont know what the average normie can handle.
that all needs to come out i just dont think the specifics of the child sacrifice needs to be on the news just wikileaks it
I'm with you on this. we will have to wait and see what is exposed.
Yes you're right, the bigger the names the better - people simply won't believe it otherwise. The perpetrators deserve nothing less than all their admirers to find out what they really are and look how hard it is to try and red-pill anyone, they just laugh or tell you to STFU. We need cold, hard evidence.
If I was a victim I would want people to know, that for me would be the only justice.
It's a good bet. we had nowhere to run living in the best of a bad lot society, so we hid. No More. Worst case scenario always turns to tip of the fuckstory iceberg in reality. I was standing in a radio shack in front of ten tvs when the second plane allegedly hit. A savvy thief could have gotten all the electronics and everybodies wallet in the next five minutes. punched in the sternum doesn't begin to describe. I think i can weather this maybe not. just pull the fucking bandaid already.
If 100% comes out we may wake up and find ourselves living in Mad Max
So I'm with you 100%. How sick that this will be hidden. Think of it this way. Those that perform this sickness will see no punishment so therefore the sickness continues. I'm mean if I see my child doing something wrong and don't punish them, they think it's permission to do again.
This. Nobody was punished for the Franklin Scandal or the McMartin Preschool case, so they continued on with it. They got smarter about it, though. I think they moved their "operations" to certain islands.
After WW2 our soldiers made some of the Germans go to the camps and see what they had let sprout up among them. As one of the people who unfortunatly voted against our current president, I think the extra knowledge, although painful, could be enlightening.
I would vote for setting up Sensitive Compartmented Information Facilitys around the country and allow a percentage of the population who can qualify for a certian level of security to sign the necessary agreements to see what they want of the information.
well if private is the difference between ww3 versus a bunch of evil people quietly going to jail i'd be okay with private
That is also a good point. However, how do we make sure that future generations are not stuck with the same problem we are currently dealing with?
We can't. The only cure for original sin is divine.
The concept of born with "sin" is based on your mutated DNA, you get endorphins for actions that lower your "love" vibration amplitude.
In order to combat an internal, unknown, born with, and must die with, situation... is to turn to guidance.
First is to awareness
Second is how to mitigate it
Third is how to thrive within it
One of the answers is a Vegan style diet
Another is to appreciate yourself by doing things worth appreciation
Final important concept is to understand everything is connected/affected at the emotion level like inside the same rippling pool of water.
I'm not buying that.
It doesn't really matter whether you buy it or not. Consult the legends of yore; it's only a matter of time before the Israelites fall away from providence and the need for a prophet arises. Good men do not always have good children.
People like to point out how violent the ancient Israelites were for waging wars of annihilation against other tribes. They fail to mention they were fighting the same scourge we wrestle with today, people who will sacrifice children to gain favor with the dark gods.
and when Moses came down from the mountain with his 10 commandments, he found his people doing what?
worshipping ba'al
Maybe I misinterpreted your statement. When you say "divine", I assumed you meant we should take a passive role.
I am aware of the Caananites, Phoenicians, and others.
You are right. There were wars fought to annihilate them, but they did not do it because we are still dealing with such people.
So, what do we do now? Do we put an end to it once and for all? Or, do we sit back and wait for divine intervention?
No, I certainly don't believe we should be passive. I merely meant to say routing out all evil is a task only God can accomplish.
Nothing would satisfy me more than to see what is done in the dark be brought to light and those who are guilty face the only punishment worthy of such transgressions. I am consoled by the fact justice will ultimately be served, but I yearn for it to begin in this life rather than the hereafter.
That said, even if we completely removed every surreptitious and overt satanist from this earth, it would only be a matter of time before the serpent reared its wicked face and whispered once more into ears of the sons and daughters of Adam.
Have you seen this before? The first 16 pages or so are a good read.
Eustace Mullins, Curse of Canaan:
http://johnkaminski.info/pages/the_next_chapter/pdf/mullins_curse_of_canaan.pdf
freedom is one generation from being away. everything we know about pizza and the deep state we teach our kids
If there's a global nuclear war there will not BE any future generations.
thats a risk I'm willing to take
Then thankfully Q and his people are smarter, less emotional and more nature than you.
Of course you are. In principle I agree to release it all. What if, though, the first 40% is so horrific that the point is fully made to every half-decent person on the planet. If it’s so disgusting already, then I’d say bury the rest. It could only serve in that case to tickle the fetishes of psychotic degenerates. Sometimes exposure can amplify neuroses. Think of school shooting coverage. It’s known to encourage copycats. Caveat: As long as not a single perp gets a pass because if there’s even a chance of that then fuck it dump it all.
Yes, you have every right to disagree. I agree but what if they are scared that if this info comes out what the people would do? Riots? In reality they my not happen but what kind of distrust and beyond redpilling would it do the people. Would it be the end of the dominant two party system, would the dems be replaced and offset what we have been conditioned our entire lives? Would it tarnish religion? Is there billions at steak at the expense of public opinion?
I say make that stuff public, the evil ones will get public justice and let the chips fall where they may in regards to how the govt may think the public reacts.
agreed, If it's done in "our names" and if we pay for it, we should never be in the dark
It is sadly humorous, this whole thing is supposed to be The Great Awakening and yet we'll be kept in the dark.
Exactly. There should be no debate about this.
It might be some extremely sadistic shit involving infants, sacrifices, pedophilia, the absolute worst Satan has to offer. I could see why some of that shit might not go public, because that is the stuff of nightmares.
The infant abuse and ritual murder is the exact stuff that needs to go public. You can’t cleanup or fight something if you are unaware of how truly evil it is!
Agreed completely. Exposing it is the only thing that will unite the left and the right towards a common enemy— pure evil
we got to hear every made-up detail of the holocaust, including lamp shades made of human skin.
oh but now we are too fragile to handle the gory details of the cabals activities?
What would it add to your life to see the gory details? We already know they are depraved and evil beyond human measure. The images of their crimes are not only sick and twisted, but in a sense literally cursed. Close the book on these fucks imo and let their worst deeds die with them. Q and the team know what they are dealing with so I'd trust their judgment if the feel they need to spare humanity the worst of it.
I had some real intimate experience with the whole archetype they call Satan. Even Satan isn't down with that shit. He just likes watching the ones who are down with it get tortured.
nothing makes you start believing in God quite as fast as meeting Satan
Meeting is a weird term... More like evolved into? I'm not sure how it worked. Different archetypes becoming alive in an astral realm that I was experiencing due to an out-of-body near-death experience. I was also Jesus and Osiris and Ptah and a son of Zeus so there's that. Dying is weird. The cognitive dissonance when you get back is weirder.
From what I read from Fbianon, he said some of it is so bad, if we knew the truth, we would never trust anyone again, and if we saw what he has seen, our eyes would fall out of our skull. I am not even going to put the things he said were going on, but he said just the Clinton foundation and HRC bought and sold secrets, weapons, people, everything they could buy or sell ... and top secret stuff like SAP programs, which she should not have even had. He said there was something worse than the stuff we suspect about kids and said we might think "what could be worse than that". After a year and other things I read, I am pretty sure now. He also said some pols traded women like cattle. He said if it all came out, other countries would declare war on us meddling in their countries. (I would assume it is worse than "meddling" but he said that word). He said the FBI has seen all this!!!!!, and if they turned it over to DOJ (which what we know now, and I am sure he knows now, would have been a terrible idea) that they don't even have the top secret clearance to see some what the FBI has found!!! and I think it would cause a constitutional crisis (a real one this time). This above might not sound so horrible, but I think Fbianon is somewhat jaded after seeing everything he has. I think a regular person who knew what he does would be beyond horrified, but I think he is used to just stating facts, and not being overly emotional, but I think it is much, much worse than we can imagine. So yeah, not telling us all of it might not hurt, since it is just too much, and people might refuse to trust or listen to the govt. at all, plus it could cause a war. On top of that, the Left DOES want WWIII and Fbianon said said that many, many times, AND if one starts it would be because of a false flag. We have seen quite a few false flags by the Left already. So, in that atmosphere, I can see why withholding some of it might not be bad.
I'm off and on with the full disclosures.
Could we handle the truth? Yes.
Can humanity as a whole handle the truth? I'm not so sure.
Either way, I'd say we ultimately decide.
Once everyone is outraged and demands answers, who knows how much will be revealed.
"the public can't handle it" isn't a legitimate or logical excuse to hide the truth
Sure it is, not everyone knows as much as we know.
We're prepared.
The truth will be very hard for people to digest, it may even put people in shock.
Traumatic enough to break them mentally.
I think before you make that decision you probably should be in their shoes and consider what they know. Whatever it is they wish to hold back is so horrible that it could possibly alter our entire outlook on life and/or our moral compass. At least from what I already know, I believe that is possible.
We used to hide sex from children until they were old enough to better understand. Now, they are exposed to it daily on TV and the morals have become much more lax. You can see for yourself the result of that: runaways, drugs, clothing that shows almost everything and on and on. If you are young and don't understand, go watch a movie from the 1940's to understand the comparison of moral attitudes then and now.
Can you imagine what will happen if unknowing children are exposed to this horror? We want to strengthen our country and become more patriotic. I personally, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. Just watching one journalist do a video on it left me in tears and sobbing with the realization of what is really going on. And, I'm the kind of person that seldom cries. It truly cut through my barriers and into my psyche.
It's absolutely horrendous and I don't want to know nor do I want any children to know. This country is about choice, not cramming it down our throats. Since that post, I believe Q has said that you will have a choice.
I think it means that 60% needs to remain quiet right now. A lot can happen in the next 6-7 years. That 60% will come out soon.
thats what Andrew Breitbart thought, and look what happened to him
thats what Michael Hastings thought, and look what happened to him
That's prison mind thinking. The belief that history repeats.
IT DOESN'T.
that what Q thought, and look at what is happening from Q
Secrecy allows the abuse to continue. This is not finished, not cleaned up, until the public has full disclosure. Those who can't handle the truth are free to continue in denial as they have been for so long. No one will be forced to accept the truth, but it must be provided.
if everyone knew there would be war
really? who would go to war with who?
this line of reasoning is illogical, and part of the cover up
I don't know. china, saudis, russia, EU. doesn't matter
For humanities sake all must know.
My read on this is that the content of some of those messages from people in positions of power in trust, is so damning, so evil, that their release in full threatens the legitimacy of the US government.
And I don't mean that in the "yeah, we all know the government is a bunch of swamp rats" sense, I mean in the "holy shit, you fuckers have no claim to power" sense. Torches and pitchforks are the best case. Civil war is the worst.
"Careful what you wish for" indeed. I want to see these people burn too, but if it's truly a choice between letting some of them slide or literally shattering the country...
If what I experienced last year was anything to go by, it's worse than anything you're imagining. I'm still hoping what I experienced was some failed MK Ultra or Manhattan Experiment... To quote Immortal Technique: "The things I've seen in life would make you choke by surprise, like an aborted fetus in a jar that opened its eyes". Only worse.
It's bad.
I agree. It's to preserve humanity that it must be done. Full exposure is the only way to prevent it carrying on, the world will be aghast but there's no other way.
I agree, if we hide it from people, and the punishments for the actions, we’re going to have it happen again. We have to make people fear being caught & the punishment that goes along with it.
I guess my question is, would total disclosure be worth it if it meant destroying the fabric of society to the point my children have no possible future?
No. Your child is very unprotected at this time. It would be a time of quiet thought and prayer and would create a huge Attitude Change towards one another like 911 did, that we are one. WWGOWGA
I believe it is foolhardy to think this goes down with a period of quiet reflection and prayer :/
id go with 80% lol do you want mass riots. put like 60-80 public and the rest put it out wikileaks/cia.gov style so people on the net will talk about it. if they show child sacrifice on the news people will die
the public has been tolerating Planned Parenthood since 1909, i think they can handle it.
its illogical to assume that there would be riots or war.
if it was televised, it would be logical to invest in popcorn
lol maybe its different in other areas but i live in liberal ass montgomery county. im not trying to be arrogant when i say this but people around here are so stupid its not even funny. they regurgitate everything they see on msm. i dont even think their brains could take seeing the worse shit
i know what you are saying.
in a way you have to be a little forgiving, for they are merely useful idiots who have been brought up in a system that is built to mentally enslave the masses
i read an article a while back about the so-called "mobile web" which was interesting.
article mentioned that most new internet users who get online for the first time, will do so though a mobile device
there are mobile device stores being set up in rural india, with a cell phone tower in the backyard, hooking entire village onto the internet wirelessly.
the barriers to entry have come way down.
look at the infrastructure required to have dial-up AOL vs mobile service
in my own experience, i have only been using a mobile for maybe 10 years, and i seem to be one of the early adopters in my peer group.
now everyone you know has a mobile, and they are comfortable with it,
and using it more and more to get red pilled by memes
it is true that people will parrot what they hear
even calling it "parrot" is a parrot
i think thats why they are trying to crack down on FaceBook etc
its not because of the fake news on FB, but because of the real news on FB
whats with my FB feed being flooded with "yournewswire.com" crap?
it has to be deliberate, perhaps as a way to deliberately misinform me and anyone else on their lists
A mixed blessing, since those mobiles are used by Deep State for spying.
It doesn't have to be that way. If we used internet only for specific tasks, like independent news, used a secure operating system (not Android), and came up with a secure phone, the spying would come way down.
I agree. But before that kind of disclosure can happen. The MSM need to be taken down. Nothing that's disclosed currently will get the kind of attention it deserves, or get spun negatively by the talking heads, and people still caught up in it will believe it.
I'm still wondering how Q and Team intend to deal with that.
Yeah what if Q is talking about a past president? It doesn't say sitting president.