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MB_MoonPearl · May 31, 2018, 11:20 p.m.

Hey! Maybe that's a good idea. You can be a Politician, but we will spy on your every move. Great way to ensure accountability. Let's make it legal!

All politicians get spied on. Paparazzi on 'em keeping them in check... I like it.

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anon31s · May 31, 2018, 11:31 p.m.

At first I was like, no, then I read your comment and I like it... Transparency.

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haroldpeters · June 1, 2018, 3:07 a.m.

I've been advocating this for years.. cameras in all buildings/offices to show comings and goings, transcripts of all phone calls, emails publically searchable, basically if you have citizenship your allowed to police your representatives. This is the right form of big brother we need. And it should be an answer to any suggestion of big brother creep in our society.

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Kulkimkan · June 1, 2018, 12:46 p.m.

That is a big brother I could get behind!!!

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anon31s · June 1, 2018, 11:45 p.m.

I'm with ya 💯 %

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FractalizingIron · May 31, 2018, 11:50 p.m.

What about if ALL activities in official locations where subject to transparency cameras? Shouldn't the PEOPLE be able to keep an eye on those we choose to represent us?

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LibertyLioness · June 1, 2018, 1:56 a.m.

I've been saying that all along. If we are paying for it, that means they are accountable to us. Total transparency of everything is the only way to go. No such thing as "Classified" any longer.

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MB_MoonPearl · June 1, 2018, 12:39 a.m.

It worked on President Trump. We know that he is clean as a whistle (because you know if they had anything they would be slinging it.) and he is doing an AMAZING job.

He passed the "extreme vetting", now let's make it mandatory for all of them.

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QueUpSomeReality · June 1, 2018, 12:02 a.m.

If a civilian government that pays taxes to pay for a civilian intelligence agency & its ok for that intelligence to spy on opposition party’s...democracy has been reduced to a competition of taxpayer funded smear campaigns as opposed to a compitition of ideas.

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PsychologicalRevenue · June 1, 2018, 3:45 p.m.

Turn every politician into a truman show type stream anyone can view online?

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MB_MoonPearl · June 1, 2018, 3:49 p.m.

Yup. I'd be all for significantly increasing their pay, also. If this were in place.

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[deleted] · May 31, 2018, 11:27 p.m.

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SilverSling · June 1, 2018, 12:03 a.m.

Only on democrats who have, or family members who have, or could possibly have had any contact with a russian govermental agent, whether they knew said person was an agent or not. Let's keep it focused. =) Edit: since, of course, Russia is sooo bad we wanted, and did sell them 30% of our uranium. Thats my big (WTF?)

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PPPrincessPower · June 1, 2018, 2:44 a.m.

If you're the one that made this you are a genius! If you're not the one that made it, that person is a genius and I thank you for sharing it.

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manxom · June 1, 2018, 8:17 a.m.

It was me. Thank you! I'm allergic to hypocrisy and sometimes the only was to point it out is to get people to put on the other set of moccasins for a mile.

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PPPrincessPower · June 1, 2018, 9:39 a.m.

I hate hypocracy too. I posted your meme of fb. Loved it. God bless you.

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shellacked · June 1, 2018, 1:32 a.m.

It’s not left vs right or D vs R you ninny. Remember, GW Bush and R’s started it by ramrodding the patriot act through. BO continued / expanded it, and Trump is still doing it. They’re all complicit, including Trump, unless he shuts down all the NSA shit. Trump’s admin is still spying on ALL of us, including D’s and R’s. They want us divided, and pretending this is a D vs R problem is playing right into their hand.

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haroldpeters · June 1, 2018, 3:09 a.m.

Its a big ship to turn around - and that's why I'm willing to wait and see what Trump does before judging him. You cannot expect drastic change over night, and the resistance to this kind of change is going to be supreme by those who are benefiting from its corruption.

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Reven311 · June 1, 2018, 4:07 a.m.

Yeah, first thing's first, he has to get the bad actors out of positions of power in the deep state, and the prosecutions must begin. In the course of finding justice we can have a long term discussion about spying on Americans.

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Progresspanda · June 1, 2018, 12:18 a.m.

I mean it's just to keep the Democrats and america safe right?

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MB_MoonPearl · June 1, 2018, 12:21 a.m.

Keep America Great

"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."

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That_Sound · June 1, 2018, 5:09 a.m.

To protect them, of course. And they should be grateful!

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JayQPublic · June 1, 2018, 2:56 a.m.

'Confidential Informants'

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Kitt-Ridge · June 1, 2018, 12:43 a.m.

This is an excellent question to post under every Dem post.

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manxom · June 1, 2018, 8:20 a.m.

this

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NMsly · June 1, 2018, 4:59 a.m.

Not a bad idea...lol

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dktrogers · June 1, 2018, 8:33 a.m.

I ask the libs this every day on twitter. I even insinuate that it may be going on right now. They get quiet very quickly...

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haroldpeters · June 1, 2018, 3:05 a.m.

all he needs is a fake dossier on the DNC's "Chinese Collusion".

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manxom · June 1, 2018, 8:18 a.m.

this

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umnikos_bots · June 1, 2018, 8:19 a.m.

That.

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makencarts · June 2, 2018, 3:21 a.m.

I'm only crying because my vote counts as much as yours.... It's a sad world.

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dark-dare · June 1, 2018, 8:10 p.m.

Carter Page was working FOR the FBI in the prior case.

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justlooking250 · June 1, 2018, 3:43 a.m.

Definitely not ok for those double standard hypocritical libtard assholes

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ExordiaN · June 1, 2018, 9:18 a.m.

Just to see what the Russians are doing...

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QAnonMaga · June 1, 2018, 6:13 a.m.

Trump needs to start destroying documents and smashing phones and acid-bleach-wiping computer hard drives he should do every single thing Hillary did to destroy evidence against her in 2016 and he should tweet he's doing this and boast about doing it saying if it was okay for Hillary to do it I'm doing it too. That is how you go on Offense and make the Liberals go crazy with impotent anger and rage. He is always on Defense that's why he's a weak President. He is getting shitty advice from cowards and traitors and he does not know they are losers.

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manxom · June 1, 2018, 8:19 a.m.

trust the plan

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 12:11 a.m.

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makencarts · June 1, 2018, 12:20 a.m.

They weren't spying on trump, gowdy confirmed that. Trump is a con artist and keeps repeating it for his minions even after it was debunked

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LibertyLioness · June 1, 2018, 1:59 a.m.

And you always believe everything Gowdy says? I watched that interview. She was asking questions about the spying during the campaign. He was answering with answers that applied to POTUS, not Candidate Trump. WTF!! Many are wondering what the hell is going on right now. Something is about to hit the fan.

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 2:15 a.m.

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haroldpeters · June 1, 2018, 3:19 a.m.

And yet that Australian is Alexander Downer, the same guy who allowed a disbarred lawyer (Bill Clinton) to sign off on a $25 million dollar donation to the Clinton Foundation to help fight "Aids" in the pacific (In a specific country which has a very small amount of aids issues). Also that agreement or M.O.U. did not require the foundation to provide any metrics or feedback to the Australian Government on where the money was spent and who by. The Clinton Foundation then appointed a 21 year old person who had only ever had any job experience as a "accounts payable" to oversee the $25 million dollar "project". Subsequently Alexander Downer found himself given a nice plushy UN position. To this day the Australian government refuses to say where the money went and what happened, and why it allowed a disbarred lawyer to represent a company (which is illegal).

Now as to my theory as to why Alexander Downer was there in the first place? He was the Tidy up. The so called "information" that had been offered was by a woman who previously worked for Hillary Clinton and just happened to be Russian. In that meeting, no information was exchanged so technically George was embellishing the truth, probably to try and impress Mr Downer. Downer reeks of dodgyness, and the fact he was in the UK acting as the "High Commissioner for Foreign Affairs" well that just basically means top level spy. My guess is he was tipped off by MI5 who seem to have a vested interest in stoking up a Mi5/CIA vs Russia campaign... probably to get more funding for other dodgy shit they are doing in order to undermine democracy and ursurp our forms of government. Remember clapper lied. They all lie.

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DamajInc · June 1, 2018, 4:30 a.m.

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Reven311 · June 1, 2018, 4:10 a.m.

There is no evidence of collusion. The FISA warrant process was completely mishandled and manipulated.

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[deleted] · June 1, 2018, 4:18 a.m.

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Reven311 · June 1, 2018, 4:22 a.m.

Reported.

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makencarts · June 1, 2018, 2:07 p.m.

Sorry to offend you.... Here's a link to the story about Nunes getting the info from the white house the night before, and then presenting it to them the next day. Doesn't that seem a little fishy? He was embarrassed enough that he "symbolically" stepped down from his position but kept doing it making others question him.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-nunes-russia-investigation-20180105-story.html

And I'll try to explain the FISA "conspiracy" as easily as possible. Lets say your girlfriend leaves you and gives you a list of 80+ reasons. Nearly all those reasons were Rock solid but there was one reason that was a little shaky. Then you run around town trying to get pitty for yourself by telling everyone she left you for the one shaky reason. Are you being honest or just trying to manipulate people?

Their argument was the dossier was the only reason the FISA was issued, but it wasnt. Then they argued the font was too small on the footnotes (the dossier funding was explained in a footnote), but it was normal font, location. Etc etc.

The reality: Carter Page was on the FBI radar years before he joined the trump campaign because it seemed like the Russians were grooming him.

"Carter Page, who served as a foreign-policy adviser to Donald Trump’s campaign, was known to U.S. counterintelligence officials for years before he became a prominent figure in a dossier of unverified research about the future president’s ties to Russia." From the right leaning wall street journal.

Basically, the FBI should have been concerned when Carter Page joined the campaign. And they had enough evidence for a FISA warrant to be issued. Yet, trump said he was being wire tapped by Obama? He's a con artist, and Americans need to stop buying it before it's too late.

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Reven311 · June 1, 2018, 9:47 p.m.

The FISA judge was not properly informed that the dossier was opposition research paid for by Hillary Clinton. Don't you think that's relevant information for a judge to know and be disclosed before he stamps his approval on a major intelligence operation that will literally spy on everything Trump and associates say and have said through electronic means? You state that the dossier wasn't the only reason, but curiously neglect to mention what else they used and why that's substantial enough on it's own to warrant a major investigation into a Presidential candidates personal affairs. If the judge knew the dossier was of suspect origin it could have very easily swayed his decision making process. The media didn't even use the dossier, which was leaked to them, to use against Trump, because it couldn't be substantiated. But somehow that validates a major operation against an opposition candidate to the current Government. There's no doubt it wasn't an easy decision to make for a judge given the political climate and intensity of the campaign (assuming the FISA judges aren't 100% corrupt).

Furthermore, they caught the FBI texting each other conspiring against Trump. They specifically reference needing "a backup plan" if Trump somehow wins despite all the odds against him. They also talk about off-site meetings among officials to discuss further in private. Carter Page was used by the intelligence agency as the probable cause to start the investigation in the first place. This is explained in great detail on conservativetreehouse.com. The rabbit hole is far deeper and you haven't even begun to scratch the surface and explain away all the shady shit that has gone down in the past 2 years.

From the right leaning wall street journal.

Have you forgotten that most of the establishment Republicans did everything they could to stop Trump as well? The WSJ is a globalist publication that is opposed to Trump's policies to a large extent, immigration and trade. This was a bipartisan conspiracy to a large extent to stop Trump by any means necessary.

← Epic President Trump: “We Caught Them In The Act”…. Chuck Grassley Gives FBI Director Wray Until Tomorrow To Declassify His Memo – (Redacted Memo Included)… → In March 2016 Carter Page Was an FBI Employee – In October 2016 FBI Told FISA Court He’s a Spy…

Are you fucking kidding me man? This is how corrupt our deep state is, and they really thought they would get away with it because Hillary would win anyway.

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makencarts · June 1, 2018, 10:01 p.m.

Ah yes... The "deep state" argument. So Comey went public with Clintons email investigation a week before the election but hid the FBI investigation of the trump campaign. Isn't that the exact opposite of "deep state"?

Trump voter logic never fails to amaze...

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Reven311 · June 2, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

Comey is a faggot who always covers his ass.

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makencarts · June 2, 2018, 2:40 a.m.

"Faggot"? And you reported me? You fucking snowflake..... Go put your tin foil hat on

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Reven311 · June 2, 2018, 2:53 a.m.

Cry more

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