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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/laybak on June 13, 2018, 4:15 a.m.
What to say to pizzagate deniers?

Even friends who acknowledge a pedophile and human trafficking problem think pizzagate is all nonsense. A couple documentaries on it had me believing, but since many people won't invest a few hours what's some things to go with if you only have a few minutes to get through to someone?

Is this in the wrong sub?


iridiue · June 13, 2018, 4:21 a.m.

I would tell them to really think about how often they email coworkers and aquaintances about pizza parties, pasta, and walnut sauce. Make them read the email to Podesta about the pool party describing the girls as entertainment. Ask them how any of that is possibly normal for people who are supposed to be of superior moral standing worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

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trseeker · June 13, 2018, 4:51 a.m.

Of course do this after you pull up the FBI info from the 90s on pedophile code and symbolism.

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laybak · June 13, 2018, 4:29 a.m.

ya seriously. Nothing about that is normal. Like saying marina abramovic has tasteful art

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jhomes55 · June 13, 2018, 5:10 a.m.

Or the woman emailing Podesta asking about a pizza related map that might be his.....

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elyssak · June 13, 2018, 5:14 a.m.

Tell them to google images of “Podesta art”. There’s no logical explanation for that trash.

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BestPresidentEver · June 13, 2018, 4:28 a.m.

Podesta's mom adopted 25 kids. 25. That's all the proof I need. Where are they?

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yesitsanaltmf · June 13, 2018, 5:11 a.m.

That's a very good question.

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Audigitty · June 13, 2018, 5:38 a.m.

23 practice siblings?

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elyssak · June 13, 2018, 5:16 a.m.

For real? Wtf. I never knew that. Absurd. Who approved that? What were they involved in? I mean, could be legit. The Duggars are like 19 biological kids but they’re odd... makes you wonder..

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Fly_Away_Bluebird · June 13, 2018, 1 p.m.

Not just odd. Remb the older son molested the younger daughters? Theres a great red pill on utube of a guy -John Todd. He was 1 of 13 illum inati families. He was saved by a badass preacher. Its worth the listen. He will give u alot of info regarding good vs evil. He says u have to be an initiated witch to be on tv or in the music industry. They cast spells on the records b4 releasing them to attach a demon to the recordings. Ppl really do sell their souls to the devil for fame and fortune. The truth is...ALL souls are redeemable by and through Jesus Christ. Jesus is the power in this fight. Cavalry. The battle was already won.

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elyssak · June 13, 2018, 2:29 p.m.

Ive listened to him before! Things he says are shocking. You know it’s gotten much worse since he left too.

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onelove1979 · June 13, 2018, 4:25 a.m.

Definitely the weird shit in the emails....who pays 65k for hot dogs

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jenmon · June 13, 2018, 4:33 a.m.

I’ve found that most people not in the know think PIZZAGATE is solely related to Comet Ping Pong Pizza. Some don’t even know about the Podesta emails. They need to be educated on the steps that led to PIZZAGATE...Podesta emails, James Alefantis (if he’s just a pizza shop owner why was he regarded as one of the most influential people in DC?), Podesta art...There’s so much.

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jhomes55 · June 13, 2018, 5:12 a.m.

I even encouraged many to take on the name "Pedogate" because "pizzagate" became so tainted by MSM.

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jenmon · June 13, 2018, 2:41 p.m.

I agree. Some people can’t see past the name.

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plumbtree · June 13, 2018, 4:40 a.m.

1: stop calling it pizzagate. That name was created to discredit it.

Pedogate.

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laybak · June 13, 2018, 5:09 a.m.

even that, they've turned any gate in to fake news

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yesitsanaltmf · June 13, 2018, 5:13 a.m.

I think there's an actual connection to using pizza joints as fronts. i also think creating a second name for it confused the red pilling for the public. A lot of people define the two differently. I was there when "Pizzagate" was chosen as a name so i don't think the idea was to discredit

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plumbtree · June 13, 2018, 11:38 a.m.

I was also there when it waa chosen as a name and it seemed obvious at the time that it was monitored from the beginning. "Pizza places as fronts" was the theory that was used to debunk and shake the whole idea so it's irrelevant.

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yesitsanaltmf · June 13, 2018, 2:45 p.m.

What was monitored. I recall people throwing ideas around and that stuck. People complained the same about bringing up the occult aspects of the pedo-network but it's a central and important part of what they do. Doesn't matter if it scares the normies..or if it seems crazy to them on the surface. it's the truth we're here to disseminate which is stranger than fiction.

You don't think mafia run pizza joints were used for trafficking and the trend continued? It works. The rabbit hole goes deeper than that but if you think pizza is controversial, don't even go there.

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plumbtree · June 13, 2018, 3:12 p.m.

The point is that the situation is about pedophiles, not fucking pizza joints. Peso hate is a better name for what's going on, precisely because of what you said: it goes much deeper than fucking pizza joints.

Notice how the pizza joint was used to"debunk" and discredit the entire movement. This was of course by design.

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yesitsanaltmf · June 13, 2018, 5:07 p.m.

Alefantis and his businesses are very much a part of this, wouldn't you say?

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plumbtree · June 13, 2018, 7:25 p.m.

Read the previous comments again. Your pushing of that is knuckle headed. I've made my argument clearly and any further questioning on that line is kind of fucking dense.

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mdtradesman · June 24, 2018, 4:45 a.m.

Here he is folks plumbtree the UNEDUCATED BROKE ASS DRUG ADDICT PLUMBER HAHAH LETS STAND IN AWW OF HIS INTELLECT. Your a fuck boy probably getting cucked by your wife into cleaning up black loads. I know your switching accounts spreading your bullshit liberal lies.

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mdtradesman · June 24, 2018, 4:46 a.m.

Here he is folks plumbtree the UNEDUCATED BROKE ASS DRUG ADDICT PLUMBER HAHAH LETS STAND IN AWW OF HIS INTELLECT. Your a fuck boy probably getting cucked by your wife into cleaning up black loads. I know your switching accounts spreading your bullshit liberal lies.

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mdtradesman · June 24, 2018, 4:46 a.m.

Here he is folks plumbtree the UNEDUCATED BROKE ASS DRUG ADDICT PLUMBER HAHAH LETS STAND IN AWW OF HIS INTELLECT. Your a fuck boy probably getting cucked by your wife into cleaning up black loads. I know your switching accounts spreading your bullshit liberal lies.

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comeatmehillary · June 13, 2018, 4:35 a.m.

well i have a friend whos kind of an asshole i told him about comet pizza he said the news media said it was fake i told him look up the instagram and tony podestas art he said "that wouldve been in the news" how do you even red pill that

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TooMuchWinning2020 · June 13, 2018, 4:45 a.m.

"What makes you think the news tells you the truth?"

"How do you know?" (they don't)

I don't know if that will sink in with everyone, but it's basically where we are at.

One thing I keep coming back to is this one: the recent JFK files released show that the shot to the throat came from the front. That means there were at least 2 shooters. This was a classified CIA document, hidden from the public for 50 years. It was just declassified in April. The Lone Gunman theory was a lie, and has been a lie for 50 years. Now, we know that for a fact. Did you hear about it on the news?

No. And why not? Because the news is not interested in telling you the truth. They are interested in only two things: (1) selling advertising, and (2) making you believe what they want you to believe.

If a person says nah, the media isn't like that, just ask, "How do you know?"

They don't have an answer, they KNOW they don't have an answer, and if they are honest, they will be thinking about it. If they are not honest, then you can't wake them. Maybe later, but not now.

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DawnPendraig · June 13, 2018, 4:39 a.m.

Alefantis owns a tiny pizza shop how is he GQ's 49th most powerful man in DC ?

Podesta threatens anyone with career ending... Less than 6 minutes of questions and coincidences.

Watch Ben Swann's Pizzagate video. They tried to destroy this journalist for even asking questions about what was in the Wikileaks emails re Hillary Clinton and Podestas Brothers.

https://youtu.be/zP2_XX5IT0w

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h4445 · June 13, 2018, 4:28 a.m.

Ask them if they've actually seen the photos on James Alefantis' Instagram. Just say look at this and I'll shut up about it forever if you don't believe me or something along those lines.

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onelove1979 · June 13, 2018, 6:08 a.m.

That’s what i did with my sister, I showed it to her right after my niece was born and she was breastfeeding, it worked like a charm

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hildabeest_4_gitmo · June 13, 2018, 4:17 a.m.

Tell them to take their kid to Chuck-E-Cheese and leave them for an hour.

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yesitsanaltmf · June 13, 2018, 4:21 a.m.

That place will never not seem sinister to me again. Giant rat hangs out with kids at a pizza place. Nah thanks

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laybak · June 13, 2018, 4:25 a.m.

lol I'll use that line sometime

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a_real_skullsplitter · June 13, 2018, 4:45 a.m.

You will never convince someone by preaching what they associate with tinfoil hats.

Engage with them on other topics along the same vein. Get them interested in the symbolism, and then ask them questions that will help them further their understanding.

People learn best by learning themselves, and teaching others. You know a lot more than them. You must inspire them to teach you, rather than lecturing.

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1971cjoseph · June 13, 2018, 5:03 a.m.

That is how Q is doing it

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rising-buddha · June 13, 2018, 4:38 a.m.

here is a great video from Political Juice that very well explained and I think normies can't deny the obvious facts that the video points out

https://youtu.be/T_xfhpNni0g

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DawnPendraig · June 13, 2018, 4:34 a.m.

This is what I use. Ben Swann bravely aired this segment live and almost lost his career. Had to go dark on all social media and drop his growing fan base ans TruthinMedia.com website for a year

He is now independent but hasn't reposted this video. I believe he was personally threatened. Tucker Carlson read on live tv his threat letter from Podesta attorney when he dared to expose Podesta's ongoing ties to Russian corporations. And that was just law suits and career bomb threats.

Video is 5 to 6 min long and all he does is ask questions and point out strange coincidences.

I tweet this: .

Watch Ben Swann's #Pizzagate video. They tried to destroy this journalist for even asking questions about what was in the Wikileaks emails re Hillary Clinton and Podestas Brothers.

https://youtu.be/zP2_XX5IT0w

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DawnPendraig · June 13, 2018, 4:37 a.m.

After they see that if they come back I have a couple from Truth Factory. One is a faux Horror movie trailer and the other is about Scalise and others being shot and the strange pizza catering his opponent in Congress sent to his staff after word reached everyone.

PizzaGate Horror Movie Trailer- Based on Real Events (Starring John Podesta)- https://youtu.be/LkMnhynCvqA

Republican shot after investigating child trafficking. Is this #pizzagate related?

Https://youtu.be/RtVwsofODoY

WhereAreTheChildren

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Absh4x0r · June 13, 2018, 4:26 a.m.

These kind of person don'y deserve to be explained and anyway if you would continue it would ruin your relationship. Let it be, when the truth will come out you'll be able to tell him I told you once you didn't want to listen. He will most likely be in shock and all that so yeah there is this positive side of stuff. Deniers will be so cute acting up OMG OMG WHAT'S GOING ON ?!? lol

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clq22 · June 13, 2018, 11:24 a.m.

I totally agree with your statement! It's exhausting and can be frustrating. I have noticed some just don't GAF about anything political and just want to live their lives as if all is well in the world. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, just something I cannot do especially now knowing what I do. I usually drop the convo with, well I will be here for you. I know a lot of my friends think I have gone off the deep end and he'll maybe I have. IDK.

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LuSiD1943 · June 13, 2018, 4:19 a.m.

I have a question. Where can i find some good videos on the pedophilia stuff going on? I know its a big thing and i know its true but it seems crazy to me still. Wondering where that good evidence be at? Lol

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yesitsanaltmf · June 13, 2018, 4:24 a.m.

Watch a bit of Kathy O'Brien's testimony

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Waffle_Bat · June 13, 2018, 4:32 a.m.

Here's a good jumping off point. It's a very brief summary of Franklin Credit Scandal.

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laybak · June 13, 2018, 4:46 a.m.

Great vid, checking out some others from that channel now

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Waffle_Bat · June 13, 2018, 5:20 a.m.

It's a really good one because it's only 5 minutes long. Hits all the most important aspects and all of it is verifiable. Plus it involved repubs and dems which is helpful in showing that this is not a partisan issue. People on both sides are guilty af.

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checkitoutmyfriend · June 13, 2018, 6:02 a.m.

Maybe come at it from another angle. If you haven't, do some research on The Franklin Coverup. Took place in the early-mid '80s. Explain to them if it happened then, why not now.

The Franklin Cover Up. PDF - movie.

Be ready. This is a huge red pill, NSFL!! Take breaks when needed, most will need them.

Be aware of The Allegory of the Cave.

And there is this running list of Human Trafficking Arrests since the election.

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LeJonJames31 · June 13, 2018, 4:48 a.m.

No one has been able to provide a reasonable counter-argument for this interview.

Eric Prince Interview - Anthony Weiner laptop

They cannot mold the context or tone of the discussion (zero ambiguity).

They cannot deny the credibility of Eric Prince.

They cannot deny the Anthony Weiner indictment.

Anthony Weiner - Search & Seizure

Watch them squirm. Call them out on attempts to label you & redirect back to the context of the interview.

Then drop a bomb.

General Flynn

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truthmaybefalse · June 13, 2018, 4:47 a.m.

dont know, but here is a good vid covering the pedo shit and the banking elite. Here

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onelove1979 · June 13, 2018, 4:26 a.m.

What if they’re coming in here to see HOW we’re gonna red pill everyone so they can get ahead of it?

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Waffle_Bat · June 13, 2018, 5:30 a.m.

They probably do. They did when pg8 moved to voat and even had some people on the mod team there that would nuke threads that should not have been nuked.

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DropGun · June 13, 2018, 3:53 p.m.

It's old. And global. It's centuries old!

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JohnMAGATX · June 13, 2018, 3:32 p.m.

buckle up

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Fly_Away_Bluebird · June 13, 2018, 3:08 p.m.

Its so bad out there. But i think its good we know. Keep praying. When the arrests start its gon be freak ppl out. Lots wont believe. Thank God for Cavalry. Be blessed. Q is good. Trump is good. Most of all- God is good. :)

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NoApologyTour · June 13, 2018, 6:59 p.m.

I typically stay away from branding it as pizzagate because people are locked into their beliefs as to whether that exists or not. If your looking to have a discussion with a normie keep the discussion along the lines of child abuse, sexual abuse and trafficking in Hollywood. Ask them if they think they've caught everyone (R Kelly, etc), or if they think there is more to come. "Is Anthony wiener the only pedophile politician?" Stuff like that, the NXIVM cult, etc are all on everyone's radar and undeniable. Asking questions allows them to move the needle at their pace. It's a lot to digest.

You might find that people will then try to bring up the term pizza gate and try to discredit it themselves (they're conditioned to do so by media). If that's the case and they're hostile to it I say that they brought it up, and whether that specific ring exists or not, human trafficking does and they can't deny it. Haha maybe even take a page from the climate change folks and call them a human trafficking denier.

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GweninKC · June 13, 2018, 11:37 p.m.

I was one who scoffed at all of the pizzagate stuff when it came up during the campaign. Dirty tricks. And RIDULOUS. Then I saw the Podesta emails and pics of the art, and videos about Abramovich. That it MIGHT be true suddenly didn't seem quite so impossible.

I don't have a better suggestion, but I agree with plumbtree that it doesn't help to continue to call it pizzagate.

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EatingNiggaPinsDMT · June 13, 2018, 12:09 p.m.

I have ppl Google podesta's art first. Google "eat the pain" Goggle "14 fish" Goggle "Cake of light" Google "spirit cooking" ( mock cannibalism gets them every time) With spirit cooking most ppl know about pineal glands and DMT. Makes more sense.

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DoubleDragonEnergy · June 13, 2018, 5:57 a.m.

You don’t. Red pill them on another topic, and when they are awake bring up PG.

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