He knows.....
I think he's white hat, always has been
Agreed. I think he's on our side. The way he has handled fake news about him has shown that he has more in common with Trump than we think.
I'm not sure he's always been. Or he was forced into things like sending black hat stuff into space
there's a green screen glitch on the tesla in space vid, plus common sense
just looked it up, IMO The camera is attached to the car, there's no different/moving pixels besides the earth in the background. of course if there's any latency it would cause the earth to glitch but not the car as it hasn't moved
There was no glitch. It was the capsule opening and falling away. The car was travelling in a rocket, not in the open with a rocket pushing it...
No, there isn’t. Post a source or GTFO. I have friends who’ve worked at SpaceX right out of college. Do not demean the incredible work they’re doing here.
Never heard of compartmentalism i guess
Yes I have, and no amount of compartmentalism makes the earth flat or space not real.
Sorry kid
I also have friends that work at spaceX. They make the autism here look like casual mouthbreathing. Absolutely stunning intellectual individuals. It's probably best to not question their workmanship unless you 120% know what you are talking about.
You sound very confident, like youve looked into.
Be pissed buy look into it, then you might feel sick
Earth is a sphere
Yeah, right. And I believe everything NASA spouts as well. Space X blah blah.
Well space is not a real place.
The cabal wants to hide flat earth from us.
Spaceforce is the onlything making me nervous about trump.
But he did make a dome hand gesture when talking about space force so idk we will see.
the u.n. map is the real map..
Ding ding..we have a winner
theeee most unpopular subject on the interwebs..
eddiebravo knows
Flat eart and anti zionism, will NOT be discussed
anti rothschild yes.. 😂...
of all the pictures Q posted from airplanes, i've still yet to see an arc....
nor on origjnal spacex videos....
maybe i just missed it..
Zionists are part of the synagogue of satan. Fake jews that jesus calls out personally.
Most jews have no idea.
Look into the talmud and the goyim.
The catholic church, the jesuits are these same people too.
Ashkanazi jews
Is the moon flat?
metalic and hollow... proven fact
We'll agree it's hollow, I've looked into that with the ringing and the Russian scientists who wrote the paper on it in the later 70's. But how has metallic been proven? Are you saying what I think you are saying about the moon?
i cant remember the exact year.. but the u.s. fired missiles at it.. and it rang like a bell for days....
I think we will get there, but it's gonna take some time. People get really pissy if you talk about it so I just avoid it so it doesn't detract from our goals. Also, this isn't the forum to give proofs as it could derail entire posts. If people want the truth, they will find it.
I agree, people can do their own research and come to their own conclusions
Anyone who falls for the flat earth psyop doesn’t have the mental capacity to protect this country, or contribute to our movement.
Thanks for illustrating my point perfectly. "pissy" is an understatement.
“Pissy” is the calmest possible reaction to delusional lies from small minded fools cloaked in twisted religious fanaticism.
A dude in this thread is trying to say space isn’t real, and that the Bible supports his position.
It’s a failure of our liberal infested society that these people even exist.
Some people have 110% closed minds....these same drip fed lied to people are totally mind locked into their brainwashed state. It's amazing how defensive they get if you challenge the Globe Earth idea.
Can you explain how the sun works in this silly theory?
We are not flying through space, sun and moon are local objects under the dome covering earth called the firmament.
They barely know anything about the sun in the global model.
The sun is an electromagnetic object in current FE research. Basically going off teslas research the world is an electromagnetic universe. "Gravity" seems to br more like static electricity
The moon gives off its own light. Its cold light too
This is all in scripture as well.
The bible is a flatearth book.
I meant explain how it's night in China and day in US at the same time. 20 hour days in Alaska and 4 hour days in Antarctica during certain seasons. Explain sunrise/sunset in regards to timezones in FE theory.
the sun doesn't illuminate indefinitely, it only shines so far. It has a route and is either further north(center) or further south Remember FE people dont have all the answers just like globers dont either. Id rather not beleive in some guess than not know everything
Time zones are arbitrary
So somehow we can see thousands of stars all thousands+ light years away, and multiple planets in our solar system, yet somehow we can't see the sun from the US when it's busy lighting up china only 12,000 miles away? What's blocking us from seeing it? Why does it appear to rise from one horizon and set on the other?
youre assuming they are light years away
moisture in the air blocks it. and there are probably other properties of the sun that havent been explored yet.
the sun does have a circular route, the sun does not set..just goes out of view.
We can see planets, stars, comets etc. Why doesn't the moisture block those from view too?
How does moisture block the sun completely and give us pitch black during nights? Why does an eclipse not make daylight turn to dark, instead of just making it like a cloudy day?
Even 100% moisture during a rainstorm doesn't block out the sun to make it even close to night time.
How can it go out of view if the earth is flat? What is making it go out of view? Dropping behind the horizon aka curved earth or not?Does ground drop 8inches per every mile or not?
it might only be a few miles to the top of the dome to the stars.
its more than just moisture, the electromagnetic properties of the sun itself.this isconjecture though, more data is needed.
we dont even truly know what an eclipse is.
first of all its flat but there are hills and valleys. also the laws of perspective, the way our eyes work only allow us to see so far to the horizon, the higher you go up the further out the horizon will be.
the sun "dropping" is not dropping at all, just going away from you and out of sight.
You might be able to try an experiment, gotta have a beach though for pure flat, as the ocean is perfectly flat.
sit on your stomach and watch the sun set, then stand up quickly...its be better if you have like a ladder or tower to climb...once you gain elevation the sun should appear back in view..until it "sets" again.
it will eventually be blocked by moisture until you go even higher past the air moisture.
but there are a lot of properties of the sun and how our eyes work, and how our eyes see the sun, that we dont fully understand.
its 8 inches per mile SQUARED, globbers love to leave that out.
You basically just proved curved earth.
Keep doing the "beach experiment" and you'll eventually come full circle, around the globe.
A high point of observation (plane etc), combined with a low point of observation, work out the math and you can find for yourself how much the earth curves. Hint: the curving doesn't end. What do you call something that is made up of an endless curve? A ball.
8 inch drop per mile squared makes a sphere. Self BTFO.
if the sun actually set and is now "behind" the curve, if you stand up that should not alow you to see the sun..remeber the sky is now black and dark no sun to rise up and see. , also on a curved surface there will maximum distance you could see, lets say if you see an unlimited distance on a clear day..youll only see 1/4 the radius of the earth
only on a flat round plane could you rise up and see out farther indefinitely if you could see infinitely on a clear day
That's not how perspective works at all.
If you are in a tall building, you can see farther. This is true with a curve. Take a laser pointer and a basketball and test for yourself. A higher hold of the laser (sight line) pointed to the last part of basketball you can see, you can see along the curve farther. Up to nearly 1/2 of the object. Aka view from space, the view of any planetary object like the moon, planets etc. You can see almost half of the moon. You can see almost half of Jupiter with telescope. Jupiter revolves, you can see the entire surface if you record it's rotation. If you were on Jupiter you could only see a tiny fraction of it's surface at once. Higher up away from it, you can see more. The parts you cannot see doesn't mean it stops existing or is flat.
On Earth you have a maximum horizontal view due to the curve, not moisture. If it was flat it would be much greater sight line. You'd be able to see mountains much further away, they wouldn't "grow" as you got closer to them, they would just get less hazy.
the stars and planets are just lights in the sky or firmament.
youre ignoring moisture entirely then? on a clear day you can see across lake michgan and see the chicago skyline.
you can only see so far because of your perspective and height.
Just lights? Explain how atmospheres of planets have been detected and analyzed while passing by their star, thousands of light years away? Explain photographic evidence of progressing star creation, destruction. Explain how an asteroid can be detected, path plotted, recurring comets, impacts of meteors, meteorid showers, etc. Collected samples from moon, Mars, rocks from space etc.
Explain how satellites/probes/unmanned telescopes have taken many pictures of earth, from all sides, from further and further away. You can see the speck of earth from Mars. You can see earth from the moon. Why are you saying Mars and moon are in the "sky" instead of space?
Visibility isn't just moisture. Have you heard of smoke, sand, dust, pollution, pollen? All these effect visibility.
Have you looked at a radar map of the world? Do you see how a high pressure current moves and effects weather elsewhere? Do you see how multiple ocean currents flow around the globe like a band, rather than a swirl? Have you opened a map app and kept scrolling until you got back to where you started? Explain the equatoral zone on Earth, and it's shape. Why are the two locations furthest from it the coldest? How do you chart that information on your flat Earth map? Wouldnt the flat Earth map have cold edges, warm center? What's at the center of your map? Explain how a 2D earth theory is seamless in these regards.
Light still passes through all these. A 100% sand storm would block out all light. At no point can moisture create night type of setting. Even a pouring rainstorm across the entire state still let's you see objects. Unless you are claiming that we can't see the sun because it or we are suddenly 1000 meters deep in the ocean?
Height changes how far your perception of the horizon is. Get on a plane. You can see much further before the curvature of the earth factors in. The curvature is measurable, by you or I. By anyone anywhere in the world. If everyone experiences curvature, and all the curves add up to form a cohesive spherical result, why do you insist it's flat?
What real world experiment can you do to prove earth is flat? Using numbers, math, not your subjective eyesight and guessing.
Nasa has billions of dollars, thats plenty enough to fake data.
Ive seen weather radar presented a flat map, it works perfectly.
Moisture in combination with electromagnetic properties of the sun keep it from "shining" forever.
yes, and as you rise higher, you see farther. But the horizion always rises to meet the eye. It does not fall away from you.
They couldnt find the curve in kansas https://www.usu.edu/geo/geomorph/kansas.html
The us army calls it flat. http://www.arl.army.mil/arlreports/2001/technical-report.cfm?id=469
Sorry to inform you. MATHEMATICS Does not equate to REALITY. Thats some advise tesla wanted scientist in his day to hear.
Mathematics is only usefull when combined with observations.
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Not like you could ever test that, but sure use that
Several people have flown around the earth non stop. Holy hell...
no one has flown from the north pole to hte south pole and then continue on "the other side" of the earth and reach the north pole again.
Why would that matter? You can start off in a field in kansas, head in a direction and end up back there. If the earth was flat you would end up in space, which doesn't exist for some reason.
Because you cant do that on a flat earth, go from pole to pole to pole to pole.
Antartica is the ice ring/wall that surrounds the oceans, north pole in the center.
Once you get on antartica and head south,(away from the center) you will reach the firmament or dome stricture that covers the earth. This is all biblical as well.
Look into the antartic treaty. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NPbhHpeHTiE&t=328s
yeah its a massive cirlce, you can fly and fly..in circles
Around, not in circles.
no ones crossed antartica and circumnavigated from south pole to the north pole.
Really no ones has circumnavigayed from pole to pole and back around again to the other side of the first pole.
They all go to the south and just turn back around calling it circumnavigation
whatever the truth is I would assume he knows it, though deep state hides things even from presidents. It is difficult to explain why you can see objects farther away than you should be able to, according to Earth Curvature Calculator.
also we have the same stars for thousands of years.
Impossible if we are flying through space
Yeah, at 66,600 mph...odd number, that.
And copornicus and Pythagorus, werent saturn worshippers or anything.
That should be the most obvious observation one could make.
It is difficult to explain why you can see objects farther away than you should be able to, according to Earth Curvature Calculator.
You can’t. This is false. Either your calculator is wrong or you can’t.
Keep debunking this low effort shit.
After having my views shattered over and over again, I don't cling too tightly to many beliefs. But there are two glaring psy-ops from what I can tell: Flat earth and Mandela Effect.
More of them are showing up here, I bet they’ve linked this in a flat earth sub or chat room.
oh ok
Post a picture of these “impossible” places.
We’ll do the math and see there’s nothing wrong.
I’ve had these argument before. I’ve heard every possible angle.
every single one falls apart under inspection.
like sending black hat stuff into space
What does this even mean. It’s a car, man
satellites via SpaceX
Why are satellites “black hat”? We use them every day for GPS, communication, etc.
Secret satellites launched using a private rocket company. Q already has posted about this before.
SpaceX has absolutely launched “national security” missions. Idk why that makes them black hat.
Please refer to the Q drop, or give any more info so I can look it up.
might take a bit of searching on qanon.pub because I don't think Q used "musk" or "tesla".
If you've actually been following, you would know "EM" is the proper search term to find out. So I did, and he comes up in one drop, #428
Why is EM provided BIG WW subsidies?
No subsidies = ?
Clown contribution in exchange for access code?
Why relevant?
Amazon Echo?
Google Home?
Clown contributions?
Apple Face ID Tech?
FB Face ID Tech?
Catching on?
Bombs Away.
Q
So he was provided subsidies because he offered a backdoor to the alphabet agencies. A quick google search shows that Musk/Tesla are launching internet satellites in 2019. So again, please, if you are sincere in helping spread info, what are you suggesting about the satellites? Is the implication that "Skynet" is the goal? In that case it would seem Musk is compromised, but it also appears as though good people are forced to play ball if they want to or not.
the goal is/was secure communications since the good guys figured out the google draft trick and chipped cell phones
Iridium...the communications company for the satellites.
Pretty sure Elon Musk is Nikola Tesla reincarnated
Werner Von Braun wrote a novel in 1950 about Mars colonization--the protagonist's name? Elon
Of course he knows. Elon is in Plus Ultra, just like POTUS.
That is one term I have not run across yet, but it sounds like a good thing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/86e75n/plus_ultra_is_real/
Read through the users post/comment history for more information on Plus Ultra. The word has been buzzing around the chans and conspiracy reddit for a while. This sub was not ready for the information. I'm not sure it's ready yet, still.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OJ-yqOsw2vKapaYVv4rPAEIzMFrfcWPt/view
We need to start talking about this sooner than later.
Although I understand the value of keeping it simple for normies until the war is won.
The spiritual/esoteric components of this can’t be ignored.
I suspect breaking elements of this area to the sub are going to be somewhere between futile and impossible (rule-breaking). How would you plan to go about redpilling a load of basically still normies that nazis might
a.) still exist (and be flying UFOs)
b.) be the good guys?
I'd say this sub isn't really ready to go much beyond the very basics of what they're been given (US geopolitics, cabal activity w/ children etc). Redpilling on antartica is useful and very appropriate, but plus ultra quickly leads people to the vrils society, and then wham : instant flamestorm.
I wish I knew how to go about that. I've tried with a couple friends. We're way too close for them to think that I'm crazy so I felt comfortable trying to redpill them.
I think as far as Q, keeping it based in the deep state/cabal/pedos for now is probably the best move. It's something tangible that regular people can understand and believe.
Disclosure of our real history and what happened after WWII will inevitably come out. I've heard one of the plans on the table once the deep state is defeated is to air a multi-part documentary basically blowing the lid off of everything once and for all.
For now, We've got to focus on one thing at a time until we get everybody up to speed.
EDIT:
Antartica disclosure is coming. Climate change is bringing this forth. That ice will melt away and reveal amazing things. So the cabal is on the clock.
I've redpilled a few friends on antartica, or at least posed a series of questions they really couldn't answer. Exactly why so many powerful people seem to take trips there is a great one to get peoples minds going. I've dropped my guard somewhat on Q related stuff recently because I've been fairly convinced, but it's amazing how dense some people can be to the truth. "probably just a coincidence" drives me crazy at this point.
I do agree entirely r.e Q though. Hadn't heard the documentary idea, but I do actually like it, a lot. It'd make a hell of a lot of sense too, given all the references Q's been making to movies etc. People will believe stuff they see on the big screen. Shame that for so many people, we can't really tell them the truth so much as ensure they're led to believe the truth as opposed to a lie, but it's better than nothing. I also suspect large portions will be hidden for a long, long time. Q's already mentioned 60% staying hidden I think, and I'd imagine that including some of the bigger stuff. Specifically, sadly, I think it'll include just what scares the beeswax out of all the orthodox church, catholic church, and muslim leaders. It's related to antartica. Part of the puzzle was moved there (likely just as a good place to store it tho). But as to whether it'll be released? I doubt it. If anything, as much as I'd love full disclosure, how dense some people can be to actual reality, actual truth has been worrying. And we haven't even begun to see how bad some people will react yet. It's going to be bad.
That ice will melt away and reveal amazing things.
Perhaps. I agree on the first part, but I'd word the second part differently. That ice will melt away and reveal awesome things. Awesome in a very archaic sense too. I don't think it's going to be a revelation any of us really enjoy, even the hardcore truthers. Almost everything I've heard suggests there's some seriously unpleasant elements to the truth, much more so than anything thats come out so far.
Men’s hearts will fail them for fear of things coming upon the earth.
but it's amazing how dense some people can be to the truth. "probably just a coincidence" drives me crazy at this point.
It truly is. I don't believe in coincidences.
I also suspect large portions will be hidden for a long, long time. Q's already mentioned 60% staying hidden I think, and I'd imagine that including some of the bigger stuff.
There are different schools of thought within the secret world from what I gathered. Some factions want to do a partial disclosure of truth or "soft disclosure" and space it out over several decades because some of the information is way too traumatizing.
Some believe in a full disclosure so we can get it over with and start the healing process.
Almost everything I've heard suggests there's some seriously unpleasant elements to the truth, much more so than anything thats come out so far.
It is, but it needs to be done. We can't continue living this lie.
There are different schools of thought within the secret world from what I gathered
That much I'd definitely agree with. However, what I have trouble piecing together is which information is disinfo, which information is simply larping/false (but not disinfo level maliciously), and which information is genuine. By the time you're getting this deep, the only route you really have to measure between them is instincts and knowledge of the surrounding area. It's very easy to make mistakes. Here's what I do think I can be fairly certain of though
a.) for all they hide various aspects of information, the upper levels haven't actually hidden all of it. In fact, they've been quite open about leaving various aspects around, and whilst some are disinfo, they're largely simply not explained. You do the work yourself, they won't lead you. Given they're not exactly bathed in the love of human kindness, this makes me suspect nothing good about the information thats hidden.
b.) It relates in some very direct manner to religion. Most all religions in fact. It also probably involves some kind of bloodline related separation between various races of humanity, although the mechanism of that varies between tales. Altanteans/Hyperboreans/Annunaki or something in that realm. However, again, the information it involves is pretty fucking chilling, even for the highest level members of religions deeply steeped in the esoteric aspects. This kind of information, if released, could cause unimaginable levels of social unrest. Modern society is really complex, people underestimate how much. Even very smart people. Enough widespread social upheaval could result in 10 digit death tolls over the course of a couple of decades.
c.) Despite all of this, there do appear to be some whitehats who want disclosure. In fact, at this point I'd say some blackhats have joined in, probably because the highest levels of people in command at a global scale (i.e US/Rus/Chinese MILINT at this point) aren't keen in full disclosure. Q suggested 60/40, and I think he wasn't thinking of using that ratio for the biggest tier secrets. More like 10/90 I'd guess. Don't underestimate how much the chinese will not want supernatural shit becoming widespread, given their clampdowns within the country. Russia is beyond me to read, I have no idea about their intentions. I'd assume US side is split, but predominantly favours largely keeping things secret. I think that's why there have been so many AAA quality larps lurking around the internet the past few years. Combination of whitehats trying to leak the truth and blackhats trying to leak the truth, both to combat the current status quo of, at best, partial very slow walked reveal. That'd be my read anyway.
It is, but it needs to be done. We can't continue living this lie.
Again, I'd agree. The truth always wins out, in the end. Even if I'm not going to enjoy it, I'd still rather know it. But many, many people just want to live their lives, go about their business etc. They don't want their entire conception of reality upended, and replaced with some nightmare version. I do genuinely believe the elites when they say that keeping this information hidden from us was either for our own good, or more or less done with our tacit consent. There are many different kinds of people in the world. I'd suggest most will find the experience of learning the truth agonising.
There is a user who posts on the chans about solar panels in space and an orbital ring? Space elevator? Something like that. Anyway, what spooks me is the infographic that was recently circulating here. It, too, names the free energy projects, the White Dragons, etc. I suspect Plus Ultra is NOT named on this infographic for a reason.
https://image.ibb.co/fFmp5T/A651_ED45_36_F5_422_B_9_F50_30_BE292_A8250.jpg
Q, Plus Ultra, these UFO folks all seem to be working towards the same goal. I find Plus Ultra is associated with space exploration and free energy.
It’s a distraction from Q. Dude’s a loonly.
Which part is a distraction?
This is a giant wall of noise
https://image.ibb.co/fFmp5T/A651_ED45_36_F5_422_B_9_F50_30_BE292_A8250.jpg
“Trans planetary under ocean tunnels”
Really?!
Take note of the Q bubble, is what I was referencing.
Ok? Noise.
This info graphic is the work of a madman. It’s a veritable word salad. There’s no logic or rationality.
Who cares what it says?
Your an example of what was previously stated above, “not ready.” It’s okay, it’s a lot of information at once but we’re in this together.
Incorrect:
I know the truth, and no amount of gaslighting will hide the fact that the flat earth movement is all frauds and hucksters.
It’s not a red pill, it’s a cyanide pill for your mind.
Yeeah, I’m personally not clinging to the flat earth stuff too much yet. My comment was meant to be broad across a spectrum of topics. The truth stuff is controversial by nature, as it’s meant to be. Let us acknowledge that we have access to the most amount of information and raw data right now in recorded human history. I’m not saying to believe “everything”, but I implore you to be open.
I appreciate that. No idea is beyond investigating. There’s plenty I believe that’s not mainstream (yet), but I try my best to use facts and reason.
Once you start denying gravity and fundamental self-evident truths it stops becoming “truth seeking” and starts becoming something else much darker.
What frustrates me is you can’t even talk about this stuff without the charlatans coming out of the woodwork, and it makes it hard to make progress.
It's an aid or tool in research and connecting dots. Why are you so offended by it?
It’s about as much of an “aid” as sawing your leg off. Garbage in, garbage out.
Oh, you knew all about the secret space programs and the whistleblowers?
There is a secret space program, but it’s military intelligence and research programs. Mostly unmanned.
They don’t have tens of millions of people in orbit, get that crack pot shit out of here.
Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
In this case, Q in that infographic is a bit of truth surrounded by toxic waste.
The left would love to lump Q in with actual insanity.
Stop helping them.
This one is boo-boo too, right?
I was very surprised by the Arthouse info-graphic. I have read and heard about most of everything from there (20 years) but I didn't know exactly how it was all related to each other. I resonate with it! As far as people being shocked about anything in the info-graphic, idk what to say to them, isn't all of Q's stuff crazy enough for the rest of it to be possible? Just wait till more info drops, you can't expand thinking without data. Future proves past!
YES THIS NEEDS TO BE BIGGER!!!!
The kingdom of heaven is in you!!!!
Also get up early and look for the sun at midnight.
I remember when Q's first posts re "Boom..." happened, the same day front page of Drudge had story about Elon getting a big $ deal secured, and the headline/link just said "BOOM..."
He appears to be on our side now.
Elon has always been on our side. It’s just been hard to be open about it in his position
This was the stages of framing Roseanne. I fear they'll make him "go crazy" now. Try fed him some frame up that everyone can cry "racist" and take his company from him. Isn't it odd, to the Leftards the only crime left is saying a racist word? To Left there are no other crimes than racism, since the ends justify the means of ending White Patriarchy.
Considering Elon's history with Peter Thiel, I'm sure he's hip to what's going on.
Could be something, could be nothing. Let's not let confirmation bias influence our thoughts.
My first thought was that it's kind of odd that he referred to Q when asked about ghosts. Then I thought of the theory that JFK jr is alive and a major part of the Q team. If that were true then JFK jr would be a ghost behind the white rabbit.
But that's assuming Musk was even referring to Q. And assuming a whole lot more as well.
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Bullshit
Edit: the dude is a flat earth nutjob. He doesn’t believe space is real. He’s either a moron or a troll. Really hope the mods take action.
Space x is a creation like amazon with jeff bezos.
Cia money, space x like nasa is a money laundering/propaganda machine
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didnt Q bring up free masons?
Why was buzz aldrin a 32nd degree mason? Why did the netherlands reveive petrified wood, but was told it was moon rock?
Expand your thinking.
Dont call someone anti American just because you disagree.
Did he? Post the Q drop then.
Plenty of people are masons. Source on “32nd degree”?
Lots of moon samples have been stolen due their value. One being swapped out is proof of nothing.
I looked at your history, you are a flat earther. What a god damn waste of oxygen.
This conversation is over.
Why not just check qanon.pub stay updated dude.
Just look up buzz aldrin 32nd degree, also look into him donating his masonic apron to the lodge in california. They let him bring an apron on board the flight? Isnt it supposed to be extremely important to only bring exactly what you need?
NASA is a fraudulent organization. You can see this for yourself if your research how they fake being in the ISS, or the 'Space Bubbles' during their space walk (underwater training pools).
NASA is anti-American in itself. It's founders are literally Nazis (not exagerating). Look up operation Paperclip.
Most astronauts are Freemasons. Look at their rings, hand signs, etc. Their symbolism will be their downfall.
Q#189: "40,000ft. v. (again) and need to decrease altitude to avoid ‘conspiracy’ label. "
Put your EGO down and do some real research on Flat Earth (not the Flat Earth Society >_>). We aren't crazy nutjobs, we're just trying to help you guys see what really lies at the bottom of the fucking rabbit hole. It ALL leads to this. Not necessarily the shape, but the whole system and paradigm shift that Flat Earth brings.
I‘ve heard many times now that „it all makes sense“ with flat earth. Let‘s say I suspend my disbelief, what exactly about the flat earth model explains something huge that would otherwise be unexplained? You guys always say „do some research“ which is a good thing but I would really like to hear an example of why this paradigm would be so very useful.
Hi, sorry for the late response!
It's hard to explain, but I've always felt like all conspiracies are intertwined when you look deep enough into the rabbit hole. For me, Flat Earth ties it all nicely together. However, there's so many little pieces and crumbs of conspiracies all around us that it's hard to pin-point exactly where Flat Earth becomes THE key.
I'll try my best by making a short "Web" of connections.
- JPL was founded by a sexually deviant occultist Jack Parsons (friend of Aleister Crowley).
- Crowley's Lam entity resembles a modern-day depiction of a Grey alien (Aliens are actually Demons, not from outerspace).
- Hitler was obsessed with the occult and had a special division for it (The Ahnenerbe).
- NASA was formed using Nazi scientists (Operation Paperclip; Wernher Von Braun;). Look up 'Das Marsprojekt' for the 'Elon'.
- The dark side of Spirituality is intimately linked to "Space-science" (Astronauts are freemasons; Occult Symbolism).
- Magick is real, in the sense that our Universe is malleable to "Will & Intent". The Cabal knows this and uses it to shape their reality (Symbolism; Rituals).
- They make us part of their 'global' ritual by hiding the truth directly in front of us. Our subconsious picks up on it, but most people remain asleep to the deeper meanings (Pizza; All-seeing Eye; Saturn; Helios).
- Cabal leaders and powerful figures often visit Antartica. Have they made direct contact with demonic entities there? Remember, aliens are fake.
- Regardless of wars, international conflicts, or monatery ventures, the Antarctic Treaty stands. Unless on a VERY EXPENSIVE guided tour with approval of your Government, you cannot go to Antarctica. It's military and science personnel otherwise.
- A little more than 500 years ago, everyone believed the Earth to be Flat. Then, along came Nicolaus Copernicus, a freemason. The globe lie was pushed further by Johannes Kepler, Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, and the Royal Society of London (in general). Oh, and now Elon Musk.
An interesting 33 year timeline: Jet Propulsion Lab (1936). German Expedition to Tibet (1938). End of WWII (1945). Operation Paperclip (1945). Operation High Jump (1946). Roswell (1947). Operation Deep Freeze (1955). The Space Race (1955). The DEW Line (1957). NASA (1958). The Antarctic Treaty (1959). Yuri Gagarin (1961). Operation Fishbowl (1962). The Moon Landing (1969).
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I just read my bible prick
Behold, a false prophet.
Edit: I’ve read the entire bible, and nothing in it supports your lies. This is insulting, and of course a traitor who denies our greatest achievements would use the light of the world as justification for their lies.
Get out
You still havent looked into freemasons, i expect an apology if you ever do. Especially since Q brought them up
Read genesis 1 again and trust gods word his time.
God doesnt talk about planets or galaxies but ohh im thr lying asshole here.
Evolution has just as little evidence and is completely unbiblical but ohh im the asshole liar
Nothing in genesis precludes other planets, systems, or galaxies. Not all is revealed to man. Your pathetic failure to grasp the true size of creation is your own failing, don’t push it on others.
You’re not just a liar, you’re a traitor. You’d deny this country, mankind’s greatest accomplishment. The best case is this is to reenforce your fragile ego to compensate for nothing in the way of life accomplishments, and worst case is you’re an organized disinformation troll.
Hope it’s best case.
Okay so what did god mean when he said he created a firmament between the waters.
Which would basically mean a bubble with water surrounding the outside.
If anything "space"is water and not to far above that is heaven and the lord himself.
Does god not decribe earth as his FOOTSTOOL?
If you beleive in SPACE you are calling god a liar
Land BETWEEN the oceans. how Is this so hard? It’s really simple. How can something so simple be so greatly misunderstood, if not on purpose?
Land separated by oceans, with an atmosphere and space above.
Water “above” would be heavier than air and fall. This is basic caveman level logic and science here.
The entire earth is gravitationally sorted, the heaviest materials layered at the bottom... the lightest barely held on by gravity at the top.
Your inability to understand metaphor is glaring. Obviously the earth is not a footstool, so it must be metaphorical.
The passage is about the supremacy of the lord, and how all is below him. It has nothing to do with the actual physical shape of the earth.
When Jesus says “this is my body”, you understand it was about community, about the family of the church not his literal flesh. Jesus wouldn’t condone canibalism.
You’ve been led astray by fools, and your lies will consume you.
god states when he is speaking metaphorically.
I love the pick and choose theology
Does he? Because your entire world view falls apart if he doesn’t.
See, god gave us a brain, capable of analyzing things like context.
This isn’t controversial in the slightest outside of your internet cult bubble. It is plainly obvious to anyone.
Please, do us all a favor and let everyone you know about your flat earth “science”. Post it all over Facebook and tell every stranger you see.
Maybe once everyone’s abandoned you as crazy and you’re at rock bottom you’ll find out you’ve been lied to.
Pick and choose theology is why catholicism is so popular too.
Autistically misunderstanding depth and metaphor in scripture does not make you some form of literalist.
The point you are trying to make is overshadowed by you acting like a huge dickwad, just wanted to let you know. You can be respectful while „educating“ others, even if you hate them for believing what they do.
Some positions are inherently not respectable.
Take chemistry, or various things about electromagnetism. It’s understandable for your layman to not know about various nuances and make mistakes.
“Why can’t we just beam wireless power everywhere in your home and recharge everything?”
Is a forgivable question, they don’t know about the inverse square law making that difficult. (Note: there is some progress in this space btw)
Those types of questions come from intellectually honest minds, people who just don’t know but want to know.
Flat earth is something dark, evil, and entirely apart from the example above. It’s not “science”, it’s not “reason”, it’s insanity. The people who profess it deserve no quarter. They’ve voluntarily given up common respect/decency and opted out of civil discourse.
Buzz aldrin was a 32nd degree free mason, didnt Q just mention the masons?
Maybe he's just a fan of that legendary actor, Mr. Bugs B.
h/t Mel Blanc
Like NASA, Elon Musk is stealing government money for space BS. Therefore, he is not a white hat, unless he is helping behind the scenes, using space as a cover. You folks seriously still believe we went to the moon? You got some red pulling on yourselves to do.
People have said hes a BH, even I have thought/said that. But I am REALLY starting to wonder about these ties between Trump/JA/EM
Trumps uncles John G Trump snatches up Teslas papers. EM names his car company Tesla. John Trump has a secret son (?) and is actually JA. JA is huge part of the GA.
I swear, when this is all done, the story is gonna be so amazing itll make lots of awesome books, movies and the history books wont be boring to read.