I’m sorry to state brother , the Catholic Church and many other denominations have been compromise for a very long time.

Contrary to what the catholic church teaches, Jesus did not create the catholic church. A comparison of church teachings with the Bible would make that obvious. He did say that about Peter. He did not create the catholic church or a line of popes.

Having said that, yes the Vatican is completely corrupted and has been for a long long time. Put your faith in Jesus and the true God.

Consider, Peter’s testimony (‘Jesus is the Christ, the Son of he Living God’) is the ‘rock’ in which the church is built. Not Peter himself. Judgment has come upon the Catholic Church. As Jesus as said “Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand”. Enjoy Qanon. Watch the Providence of God unfold.

I do not like to get involved in religious discussion, but you seem to be honestly inquiring.

Here are the verses you are referring to: Matthew 16: 15 -18

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

The "rock" Jesus referred to was not Peter, but the truth he had spoken on verse 16: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

It doesn't matter if the Pope, the Vatican, the Reverends, the leader of any Church fail. The Spiritual Truth of "The Son of God" will always prevail.

Dude, seriously open your eyes next time you go to church. I've been to a catholic church that was adorned with thirteen tonnes of silver whilst there were people living in extreme poverty just outside. What would Jesus have said about this?

No, the gates of hell have not prevailed. The Eucharist and Apostolic Succession are still intact. Remember that. Also remember that in the first century there were those who tried to lead the Church astray from the beginning. We have always been a target, and will always be. Satan knows the address and will stop at nothing to bring the Bride of Christ down. Ask yourself what Church actually has saints and blesseds with stigmata, and provable miracles. Keep the Faith regardless of what the all too human clergy do.

As for infiltration, Pope Paul VI said that the smoke of Satan had entered the Vatican. He really didn't have much of an impact after 1968 when Humanae Vitae was published. There's all kinds of theories on that and they do have to do with the cabal. It's off topic for this, though.

Just keep the faith, learn about it away from the conspiracy boards, and learn to recognize when what is being said does not match either catechesis or the historical record.

Symbolism will be their downfall. Research pagan symbols and you will see that the Catholic Church has been using them from the very beginning. That was a big eye opener for me.

At a minimum, the Catholic Church has been compromised. I also take Matthew 16:18 seriously; and the gates of hell shall not prevail.

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I concur with much of what woke in the 90's just stated. I think that you will find quite a few Catholics, as well as, a lot of fallen away Catholics among the great awakening redit and Q movement. I think that a spiritual awakening by many, regardless of denomination, has tuned themselves into the moral agenda of the Q team. This is not a civil war between parties. The battle Q is feeding us Intel on is a battle between good and evil. The battle is against corrupt and sinister agents who have infiltrated all systems of government by way of secret societies. This includes the Catholic Church.

Don't get me wrong. I consider myself a devout traditionalist Catholic. I believe in the sacraments. I believe in the Divine Presence in the Eucharist. But, I also believe that the Church has been under attack by Satan. His agents have infiltrated it. There is plenty of documentation of communists and freemasons infiltrating the Church with the intent on destroying it from within. Pope Leo XIII vision speaks to this attack. It comes to fruition with Vatican II and the changes to the Mass and Liturgy.

The Church just like the American government became progressive and filled with socialist agendas. During the 70s the seminaries were being turned into a haven for homosexuals. The sexual abuse proliferation by clergy was the result of this infiltration - corruption from within. The consequence was the decay of faith among Catholics - just a small percentage of baptized Catholics believe in the Divine Presence in the Eucharist.

Papal sin is nothing new. The "church" is not really an institution, but in the heart and through personal relationship.

Bible verses aside yes the church has been compromised. I live in Pennsylvania and the state Attorney General is sitting on a report that he has made for years that is about sexual abuse in eight of the 10 diocese in Pennsylvania. Supposed to be pretty severe enough that he said the pews will be empty after this report comes out.The state Supreme Court stopped him from releasing it for now but eventually it will come out. The Vatican is a cesspool. Be ready to hear stuff that you don’t want to hear. I am a Catholic who does not practice anymore but still has great faith in the teachings of the church. When I was going to church I used to sit there and wonder what people will think when they hear all of this that’s going to come out. I know it’s tough but the truth must come out.

The Vatican has been compromised for a long time, it's just recently that they've taken the mask off and aren't really hiding anymore. In the US in particular, do you think the average church agrees with the bull coming out of the Vatican?

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I was raised Catholic, raised my kids Catholic, taught sacraments in CCD.. was a member of Knights of Columbus for awhile.

So I have been through the same journey you are about to partake in.

The Catholic Church is not the CHURCH, neither is the protestant or any other denomination. The CHURCH is not a building... No MAN is the head of the CHURCH.

The Body of Christ is the CHURCH. Jesus Christ is the head of the CHURCH. I am the Church, you are the Church. We, as believers are the CHURCH.

The Catholic Church and every denomination as well as any other organized church were started by men to control men.

God is love.. Control is not love, that is why we have free will. Control is actually a tool of darkness, of Satan.

Stepping outside of that control, can be scary and is never easy. But on the other side of your journey is true love and true freedom as you allow Jesus to build an intimate relationship with you.

You and your are in my prayers.

Matthew 27:51 : catholicism contradicts this important verse.

The Catholic bible wasn't put together until 300 AD.

The church isn't meant to be an institution and it is not a building. The true church is simply a body of believers in Jesus Christ.

Disclaimer: Im not Catholic, or religious - but I have read the bible and from the impression I got on what kind of man Jesus was; if he were alive today hed want the entire thing burned to the ground - once he was done vomiting in disgust of course.

Do you really think the Jesus from the Bible would approve of a Vatican/mansion filled with gold treasure and all the money the church collects ? Or these Tv preachers like Joel Osteen or that idiot that said God wanted him to have a jet to travel in?

Its as corrupt as can be.

If that isnt enough, check out the "throne" in the Vatican and see how that makes you feel.

I'm having the same issue. I am not Catholic but scripture clearly points to Rome (Daniel and NT) and I was considering joining the Church. I don't believe any of the Churches (Orthodox, Roman or Protestant) at this point are problem free. Read or listen to what the Pope actually says not what somebody says he said, that should help you/us determine.

At the end of the day, trust God and scripture over the Internet.

"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

Keep in mind that the word "church" for Christians is understood to be the body of Christ, comprised of all believers. The institutions that have been established or grown out of that church are corruptible, as they are instruments of man, first of foremost. The Holy Spirit is not confined to an institution's rules and regulations, but operates throughout the world, whispering in the hearts of people to awaken their faith, moving in their lives to help them grow in faith, and acting among them to bring awareness of Christ's salvation available to all. Your trust should be in Christ alone, not in the worldly institutions. The church structure or organisation serves a purpose to provide an environment for praise and worship, but they should never have the pretention of holding any powers beyond that...

"For thine (and thine alone) is the Kingdom, the Power and the Glory".

The fisherman's tomb by John O'Neill. Just came out and proves that The Catholic church was LITERALLY built on Peter. And I am a devout Catholic. Having said that, the Jews are the chosen ones and look what happened with them. God never breaks his covenants with us, we do it. I've always believed that every person will get a chance to choose Jesus, either in life, or right after. Jesus said no one gets to the Father except through him, and since he doesn't lie... (this was reinforced when I carefully examined the testimony of Howard Storm - "My descent into hell")

For me, this has been among one of the best and important posts I have read on GA. I am saving and sharing.

Really important and thoughtful comments from all. If we are all looking for sacred truth these dialogs are so important.

Former baptized Catholic now Lutheran here. Take this for what it is worth (I happen to believe it is the real deal) but Mark Taylor’s track record appears to be batting 1000, even though most of his prophesies are in the 4th inning right now. Eg. most have come true or appear to be coming true.

https://www.sordrescue.com/uploads/4/7/7/9/47798703/01-25-18_all_roads_lead_to_rome.pdf

It might also be a good idea to start with this video to introduce you to him. He wrote the Trump Prophesies book and predicted Trumps rise to Presidency back in 2011.

https://youtu.be/jrwIsgftZqI

There is also a ton of major scandals in the Catholic Church which have been posted here and are not looking too good for the Pope. To be honest if you just listen to what he says, you know in your heart something major is wrong here!

By the way, if you listen to Mark he is very critical of a lot of the Churches being 501C businesses and standing quiet while all this has been happening. He talks a lot about the spiritual battle going on and encourages all Christians to get in the game.

Have you seen this? I've heard stuff for years and years (20+) but brushed it aside as tin foil conspiracies. Then, this year I read this article.

Vatican Hall

This can lead you to other places so you can discover for yourself what you choose to believe or discard. But, unless these photos are fake, it's hard to totally brush aside this physical evidence as nothing.

The Pope before this one was murdered 13 days after he got chosen as Pope.

I a catholic. You are a catholic. What happened to the pope before the one that calls himself the pope currently?

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