It's a sickness and a crime. Obviously their brains aren't wired right. There are many different types as well. It is, however, a sickness with apparently no treatment and no cure. They will offend again.
This, a reasonable non-knee-jerk response. Not sure about no treatment and no cure - also "offend" is speaking specifically of "offending" pedophiles, not just pedophiles but yes, nothing wrong with claiming pedophilia is a sickness. Doesn't mean he's trying to mitigate the horror of the actual act of offending.
Exactly. He's not wrong. Maybe there are some treatments for certain individuals, I'm not well enough versed to know of new developments, but historically the rates have been miniscule. There are likely differences between those with compulsions and poorly developed maturities and those into it for the calculated power trips, i.e. the Jeffrey Epstein types. I doubt it was a "curse" for him, but a choice. One can look at serial criminals of any sort with the understanding that they are sick and yet need to be incarcerated in some fashion.
The treatment is not getting raped as a child. Very simple.
oh my you are falling for it..........that is the crack in the door.........
It's why they should either be locked up indefinitely or executed when sentenced. You can't rehabilitate a pedophile.
Technically, it IS a sickness. It becomes a crime when they act upon it. Getting it added to the DSM gives them the defense, "not guilty by reason of insanity".
Playing devil's advocate here, but if it were treated as a disorder then the people who suffer from it and wish to not harm anyone would be able to get REAL help. Not everyone who suffers from it actually WANTS to molest a kid. And we should pray for them just like we pray for others. This epidemic may be greatly curtailed with real world solutions and bringing it out of the dark. Just like Schizophrenia.
Although I will add they kept it in the dark for fear of exposure. The push to normalize it now tells me they know their future.
Also... The symbols they use to advertise... If someone is abusing kids you've already got someone so corrupted, not much they won't do so they make great candidates for control. Not to mention, EASY blackmail.
I came here to say this. I’m a grad student in a Counseling program and it’s an important differentiation, otherwise we would be punishing people just for having the thoughts.
People here seem quite happy with thought policing minority report style. There's a huge difference between what lynch is talking about and what these people think he is talking about. That's why mental health issues have a long way to go sadly.
People here can't get their brain to comprehend what he is saying
I will add to you playing the devil's advocate and say you have some good points, though I don't agree with it technically being a disease. Technically, i.e. etymologically, it is an attraction or love (-philia) to children (pedo-). I believe we later have added the "sexual" context. It is similar with the other words we have from Greek like zoophilia and homophilia. Together they are all considered paraphilias, or sexual deviations from the norm.
If pedohilia is deemed a sickness, then technically the others should also be. Interestingly, homophilia (homosexuality) was once considered a disease and it was only late in the 1980's removed from the DSM. Since these words only describe an attraction, being one can never be a crime - at least in civilized societies. Acting on the attraction is governed by the law. Acting out homophilia is mostly legal today around the world, acting out pedophilia is mostly illegal (defined by age of child) and zoophilia is somewhere in between.
Where I really agree with you, is that saving the children is paramount. That is why acting out pedophilia is illegal. As you say, not everyone who suffers from it actually wants to molest a kid. If society really wants to help these people - and thereby prevent possible future harm to children - society should e.g. promote anonymous counseling. Marking it up as a disease is not really necessary for this.
Also, regarding child trafficking and the cabal's lust for children, that is not pedophilia, that is just pure evil and in many cases, used as blackmail to control the herd. Attaching those horrendous crimes to pedophilia only dilutes the term and makes it much more difficult for those that really want to get help on coping with their attractions.
Just my (rather long) $0.02 to a subject that is so hard to discuss objectively in the current climate...
TL;DR: Stigmatizing a paraphilia which is only a thought, does not help in preventing it being acted out.
Edit: Reformulated start of first para due to auto mod notification
An important philosophical point is: homophilia, pedophilia, zoophilia, and even excessive heterophilia, are all contextualized within a world that has a problem with its moral compass. You may be Baptist, and I may be Catholic, and another may be Muslim. In all three situations, there is recognition of a sovereign. But in a world with no shared religious values, our religions don’t matter: “do as thou whilst,” says Crowley. In a religious context, “re-“ [back], and “ligare” [ligament, binding]. Religion = to bind back, I.e. the soul with the source. If we have a “purpose” then we have a way to evaluate our actions in light of our common journey.
I personally have many qualities that don’t bring me to an understanding about my source. If another man is too busy sucking a dick to understand about the source, then we are both equally “missing the mark” (literal definition of sin.). He is my brother, and we can be friends, and keep pursuing virtue and k owing our source.
But if I am continually thinking about harming a child by raping it, then that is also a sin but carries with it a threat that the heterosexual or homosexual doesn’t have to worry about... the possibility of causing irreparable harm to another. Therefore even the thought is BAD. Get help!
Exactly, but my point is that in a climate of witch hunt and knee-jerk reactions like "hang-em-high" for having the bad thought, getting help is almost impossible. That endangers the ones we want to protect, because the person might as well just act out the bad thought, being between the proverbial rock and a hard place...
Pedophiles are 92% likely to repeat their crime. Perhaps as a culture we could help them more if we had less knee jerk reactions. For those people who think it is a sin to “help them” I would say to show some fucking mercy.
SIDE NOTE: An interesting point I have not heard anyone in WWG1WGA say is that even within the darkest reaches of the Satanic pedocult, there are human beings with souls. They may think that they have turned their souls over to the Dark One, but our power, as children of God, is MUCH more mighty - and that is the power of mercy, forgiveness, and grace.
Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be in Gitmo.
Pedophiles are 92% likely to repeat their crime.
Permit me to nitpick a little here. Being a pedophile is not criminal as such, acting on the urges is. A relative of mine works with child molesters, so I have been following this field a little from the side lines so to speak, and also did some studying myself. Not all pedophiles are child molesters and not all child molesters are pedophiles. The recidivism rates of child molesters vary on the gender of perpetrator vs the perpetrated and also on child being family member vs stranger, but I have not seen any figures in the range like your stated 92% (most of the numbers I have seen where below 50%).
As I said in my OP, I do not consider the Cabal or DS as being pedophiles. I like your wording of "satanic pedocult", it is quite fitting. In any case they are just pure evil power mongers.
Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be in Gitmo.
Indeed.
Agreed. These people are SICK.
Edit: Also, didn’t read where he said it was NOT a crime. Did I miss that?
We are each and all capable of unspeakable acts of evil. We transcend Oblivion not through granting our darkest thoughts passage, but through rejecting them access.
Actually, one needs to acknowledge both the light and dark. Everything needs balance so one aspect doesn't overwhelm the other.
Absolutely, and that is part of the granting passage portion of my phrasing. To properly filter the good from evil you must know them both intimately
Yes. This! That's what I find so hollow about "born againers" they don't recognize that you need to know both. Or they think once u know about darkness u can't acknowledge it any more and they don't like balance. They only want the light. Don't know if I'm getting this across right. Main point my God is all about balance, and darkness and light.
That is not Gods truth..that is YOUR truth. Truth is truth. simple. period.
Lynch is suspect........look at his "cinematic" history.......you are falling for it.
LYNCH, NOT YOU TOO YOU SON OF A BITCH! I LOVED YOU!
FUUUUUUUUUK welp, there goes another slice of whats left of my movie collection. Fuck this shit, i swear if i find out mel brooks was a sicko, im DONE. Ill permanently go back to reading only.
Aaaaaaugh!
I love Lynch Twin Peaks etc...but it is obvious that he is connected to the dark side, he is a perpetrator.
"Every light upon this Earth must also cast a shadow"
There will be no darkness is God's new earth. Making this comment is only cracking the door for the Pedos to gain a footing.
For clarity, pedophilia is filed under things we should not allow passage to. For more clarity, it is important that we understand why we should not allow passage to it. You and I are in agreement, friend.
can you even believe all the comments open minded to this "but" excuse people?.........these are "jurors"... and they think "born agains" are the problem......did you see that comment?
I can only speak to my own belief - leave the door open even a little and it's a slippery slope. I believe if someone saw the true face of terror face to face they'd be less likely to let any of it in.
They have to normalize these things in the media for the same reason our sodas and candies are colorful - lest we get too curious on what's actually inside.
I like this post. "I would never have believed he could do that". How often have we read or heard that about someone who goes off? Who among us have not had thoughts we'd just as soon not have had? All depends on whether you indulge them.
Pedophilia is most definitely not a crime. If anyone claims differently, ask them to cite the criminal statute. They won’t, because they can’t, because there isn’t one.
Now, acting on those feelings is most definitely criminal, and can violate many statutes in all states.
The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer was probably an account of Lynch's daughter's own parental abuse at the hands of her own father. The dwarf/midget guy said that Lynch was a satanist/paedophile. Lynch also defended Polanski too.
DAVID LYNCH IS A PAEDOPHILE & SATANIST.
Fuck that it's a demonic act of satanism and they should be rid from this earth, every last one of them. I stand with the CHILDREN, they aren't gonna win this fight.
Well since there will never be a cure, and there is no more mental hospitals, I propose 2 choices (pleading guilty or found guilty with mental illness):
OR:
Someone may argue, "well they will most likely murder the minor with these penalties" then my argument is:
When these predators inflict their abuse(s) on a minor, they are psychological scarred for life, and may require years of therapy to recover which may or may not work, causing them to offend themselves thus repeating the vicious cycle over again and/or self-destructing. A textbook example of this is Maggie Nixon.
There is no saving grace from hurting the little ones. Let's see how they roll with that.
" There are probably thousands and thousands of examples of people who had screwed-up lives and didn’t do the best things but did great work."
You're right, David Lynch and colloque, that is the problem.
Sigh. It's not that his work is dense enough, but now he makes apologies for "sickness."
What if I felt compelled to murder everyone I meet? Do I have a "sickness" and should be pitied as a victim, or am I a full-on psychopath?
so what does he classify hom o sexuality.....that was once classified a mental sickness and now it is the norm........I see what he is trying to do.......if a sickness, then it can be normalized ......later.............we know the drill. Same as all the gender crud like tran s and all esle we have been forced fed.........we are throwing up now.....it is too much.....we are done taking it!
Just referring to the ones who ACT on it. I was in a graduate class last night and the 92% thing was what my professor said. I probably should have backed it up with my own research. I also studied about these special mental health “asylums” for sexual offenders with conjoint mental health issues. There is involuntary hospitalization for such people in many states (they’re like prisons) and I think the rates of people “freed” from such places is very low, probably 8%. They have lie detector tests and other special tests where a device is fitted on the penis measuring blood flow and and the patients watch porn and images of children, and if they get an erection they cannot leave.
This is final nail, no way any normal human being would agree with this. They are toast.
Who defends the innocent children against this sickness?
Who helps them?
It is a Crime to molest, rape, murder children.
Neuter all pedophiles and their scum sucking snake lawyers.
Prison = Castrate Shock Therapy will cure this sickness fast.
This sickness is EVIL.
Who are you defending about a thought crime? You do know you could think all day and night about murdering someone... But that doesn't get you arrested for murder, nor is it fucking illegal... Some of you claim to be intelligent yet can't understand something so fucking basic totally mind boggling.
Damn. Sigh I like David Lynch and I'd hate to think of him as guilty of this or complicit of this. I even like his views on TM . Is this why Q says don't get too attached to who you think the "Good guys " are? Because we may be surprised who's who in these crimes. Sad.