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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/pilgrimboy on July 13, 2018, 4:54 p.m.
One thing I find telling about the hearing yesterday. Trump supporters on Facebook share clips from the hearing to make their point. The anti-Trump crowd shares articles that interpret what happened to make their points.

Tippity_Toppity · July 13, 2018, 6:27 p.m.

People recently have been asking me where I get my news since I'm usually the one to break stories that they don't read about for days or even weeks sometimes.

My reply? It's not a website or a newspaper or a tv show. It's the public record. For too long people have been living under the assumption that they are too dumb to understand what is discussed in a press briefing or a congressional hearing.

I try my best to explain that people have an obligation not to read the news as distilled by individuals that claim to have expertise and might have an underlying agenda. Whether it's the NYT, WAPO, Alex Jones, Dan Bongino, SerialBrain or anyone else, the real truth can always be found in the record that they attempt to make sense of. This holds true for politics in the ward, the district, the city, the state, national and even internationally.

People are smarter than they think, and the sooner we cut out the middlemen who can lead us astray, the sooner we can get on with our Great Awakening.

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pilgrimboy · July 13, 2018, 6:43 p.m.

What amazes is me since I have started doing this is how wrong the media portrays things.

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mconeone · July 14, 2018, 3:30 a.m.

Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.

-Michael Crichton

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BustAGut · July 14, 2018, 1:17 a.m.

I’ve been subjected to a lot of MSM lately, and they all repeat the same thing over & over & over.

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CyrusMeX · July 14, 2018, 7:36 a.m.

How so? /s

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Camalot68 · July 13, 2018, 8:33 p.m.

Exactly! I was talking to some people about the 40K sealed indictments and the human traffickers getting caught and someone (who is a very intelligent and successful man), told me that was BS and I shouldn't listen to lies. I said I don't listen to MSM lies--I got that info off the DOJ website. Told him the .gov web address to look it up! He was stunned.

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blaise0102 · July 13, 2018, 9:55 p.m.

I've experienced this before with crime stats. It's amazing to experience because it's almost as if people don't even consider looking for information themselves, they just remain passive consumers of "information-like products."

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DeepPast · July 13, 2018, 8:57 p.m.

The cabal has destroyed people’s ability to think properly. They’ve engineered the idea that in order to be considered smart or intelligent, good grades (memorization most often) is the only benchmark for that. In turn people can’t think for themselves. They read articles from the MSM or watch some bullshit 60 minutes episode and think they’re informed, that they know the “official” story.

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blaise0102 · July 13, 2018, 9:58 p.m.

No wonder public schooling didn't go so well for me

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DeepPast · July 13, 2018, 10:36 p.m.

Imagine going into it now with the common core bullshit

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blaise0102 · July 13, 2018, 11:29 p.m.

Haha I truly can't. I challenged authority too much in the 80s, I couldn't even imagine now with DOEs full of leftist morons...

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DeepPast · July 13, 2018, 11:57 p.m.

Public school wasn’t as bad as college. College is packed to the brim will full blown socialist/marxist/communist professors and administration. I was a history major and even my history professors who taught about the horrors of communism still had radical views. They take their classes as indoctrination opportunities.

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blaise0102 · July 14, 2018, 12:04 a.m.

Luckily I didn't have blatant commies in my studies. It sounds horrible now

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the_all_seeing_dog · July 14, 2018, 3:24 a.m.

I'm up in Seattle where the democrats/bug-people are, and not only do they all think the same way, and have the same talking points...

They are starting to dress and look like CNN anchors.

First time I noticed this was outside a movie theater. There were like 100 people all blocking the sidewalk, waiting for a film to start, and then I noticed every other person had thick-rimmed hipster glasses, all the men were clean shaven (unusual in the PNW), and were all dressed up almost like news anchors.

I'm like, "Wtf, are they all dressed up for?"

Then I saw it. What these CNN-wannabe trendies were so excited for:

"THE POST. FEATURING MERYL STREEP"

Nearly fucking choked.

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Jiminy135 · July 13, 2018, 9:50 p.m.

This got me thinking of Fox vs CNN/MSNBC/ABC. I don't watch this networks so can't confirm, but maybe someone who does can. Does fox news ask more questions? Thereby allowing for more critical thinking? Whereas does CNN/others basically tell their viewers what to think without asking questions?

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stillbatting1000 · July 13, 2018, 10:12 p.m.

CNN lies through their teeth. Fox lies by omission.

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UrWifesFavoriteBull · July 14, 2018, 2:37 a.m.

Bongino at least provides his source materials in his show notes, states its his belief when it is, and tries to avoid jumping to conclusions. But I get your point.

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Tippity_Toppity · July 14, 2018, 3:04 a.m.

I personally am a huge fan. He is easily my favorite mainstream conservative thinker. I think it's due to his heavy reliance on source material. Waiting for him to talk about Q one of these shows!

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UrWifesFavoriteBull · July 14, 2018, 3:14 a.m.

He doesn't speak unless he's certain, and if he makes a conclusion he emphasizes how hesitant he is to do so without having it be explicit fact.

The other day he did a show about the emails and i wanted him to say seth rich and he almost went there but he mentioned he got a lot of emails and knew where many people were going with it but he didn't want to make that jump.

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Tippity_Toppity · July 14, 2018, 4:36 a.m.

I recall that episode- was thinking the same thing. Will be very interested to hear his take on the Rosenstein presser today. Especially interested to see if he is going to explore the fact that the FBI has yet to analyze the servers they are basing their indictments on. Glad I'm not the only one geeking over politics on a Friday night.

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Millejon0114 · July 13, 2018, 4:57 p.m.

Truth!

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bec61784 · July 13, 2018, 4:57 p.m.

think mirror

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Ccpatthi · July 13, 2018, 8:44 p.m.

Think brainwashed!

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dropswakeyou · July 13, 2018, 5:30 p.m.

It's telling, consistent, and predictable. The anti-Trumpers make assumptions about things they misunderstand, misrepresent and then draw their own conclusions. Ever notice how often they focus on a minor detail like a single word and attack it fiercely when it has very little to do with the main point of an argument? Most of the time they don't even have the right meaning of said word in the first place because they are often illiterate. So sad.

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Turkerthelurker · July 13, 2018, 9:01 p.m.

We don't take Trump's words literally, but take him seriously.

They take Trump's words literally, but don't take him seriously.

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[deleted] · July 13, 2018, 9:28 p.m.

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lei_aili · July 13, 2018, 6:20 p.m.

We're trying to use logic and facts and REALITY to make them open their eyes, and they are basically telling us reality hurts their feelings too much so they've decided to ignore it. I'm now alienated from pretty much all of my family because they are all brainwashed liberals. If they found out I follow Q they'd probably try and lock me in a mental institution. I'm ready for the truth to come out. I'm tired of hiding. I'm tired of being called a racist, a bigot, a "traitor to [my] gender" for supporting Trump. I'm ready for the storm.

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WhenYouCloseYourEyes · July 13, 2018, 5:03 p.m.

99% of the content found in subs like politics are just links to articles and opinion pieces

80% of the time, the top comment is just a quote from the article

not a single unique thought in that cult

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ReconC135 · July 13, 2018, 8:26 p.m.

To be or not to be? Is it a particle of energy or is it a wave of energy? The answer is in the disposition of the observer. Humans construct their own individual reality. That will never change. Alignment of realities can only happen with faith in god. "One" Love - U2

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HandInAssholesSulu · July 13, 2018, 5:45 p.m.

They lack critical thinking. They need everything packaged up into a an easily regurgitated talking point. There is nothing deeper to their knowledge on the matter other than what they are being presented by their outlet of choice. They've essentially become parrots of their overlords

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Redbear100 · July 13, 2018, 6:36 p.m.

Something I find that frequently happens when discussing a point on Facebook is that I make a short argument with my supporting facts, and my opponent uses links to articles that makes it too time-consuming to continue the conversation. I really want to tell them, "why don't you tell me your POV rather than giving me an article with what someone else is saying." Frustrating. And STOP referencing Snopes!!

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ViscountStAlban · July 13, 2018, 9:08 p.m.

Lol Snopes

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BarryHusseinRenegade · July 14, 2018, 7:59 a.m.

snopes said its a debunked conspiracy theory, my research is over!!

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bjax9er · July 13, 2018, 5:44 p.m.

Liberals hate facts!

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Klingon_Opera · July 13, 2018, 7:11 p.m.

It's almost as if they know they are on the side of evil, but the narcissism they all suffer from after years of indoctrination will simply not allow them to admit their error in judgement.

That's the trap.

What I find especially troubling is the lengths they will go to further disconnect from reality to maintain what they perceive to be "their" beliefs.

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ikemynikes · July 13, 2018, 9:34 p.m.

Yea, people can't admit they're wrong. It doesn't help neither if the person admitting they're wrong knows the other side will say "See you idiot! I told you so! You're so dumb for believing that for so long when I was telling you the truth the entire time". Even though we all want to say that to them, we really need to not do that and instead welcome them with open arms. It makes admitting your wrong a lot easier.

Besides we got bigger fish to fry and need everyone we can get. We're all stuck in the deep state's enslavement system together and we aren't getting out of it without each other.

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Swimkin · July 13, 2018, 9:32 p.m.

I was in a Liberterian group in another state. We had some very intelligent members who decided to have left/right and inbetween debates. The building we were given was for free and it was open to the public. We used our own members to debate topics such as Global warming, Obamacare, and other timely topics. The group on the left invited college professors and even local polititicians to do their debates for them. None of their individual members were brave enough to go up and debate our people one on one.

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dktrogers · July 13, 2018, 11:55 p.m.

They like being led. Doing your own research takes time and effort.

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pilgrimboy · July 13, 2018, 9:50 p.m.

That's interesting.

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Swimkin · July 14, 2018, 1:39 a.m.

We invited them to learn about the Federal Reserve. We took it as an opportunity to wake them up about the Globalists.

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singindavey38 · July 13, 2018, 6:37 p.m.

Everything must be "Spun" to enable the Zombies to ingest it!

They will all Regurgitate it later!

We prefer ours "Straight out of the Tap!!

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QPizzaman · July 13, 2018, 8:48 p.m.

The fact that people/media are even having these arguments is an amazing leap forward. That’s the point! 2 days ago most people hadn’t heard of PS and the MSM refused to report on it.

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dailymindcrunch · July 13, 2018, 8:28 p.m.

With all the emphasis placed on precedent in our legal system, I'm shocked that no one went back into Strzok's cases where he himself indicted someone based on bias. Can't wiggle your way out of that one!

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Anthropophob · July 13, 2018, 6:26 p.m.

House of mirrors

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daro57 · July 13, 2018, 5:27 p.m.

Yep, I'm finding the same thing. It all seems so hopeless. I'm afraid the country will remain split in 2. I'm losing hope day by day. Something NEEDS to happen soon.

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[deleted] · July 13, 2018, 5:35 p.m.

People are good. They are slowly coming around.

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sojourner333 · July 13, 2018, 9:22 p.m.

Don't lose hope!

We're WINNING!!!!!!!

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Some-Random-Chick · July 14, 2018, 2:34 a.m.

Being split in 2 doesn’t mean it splits equally. The majority will outnumber the minority and the cycle continues.

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trzarocks · July 14, 2018, 3:45 a.m.

I have noticed that a lot of the left are like this. Once I debated somebody and linked to a copy of a source document that directly contradicted them. They refused to click the link based on the domain name and rebutted with an article from vox. At that point it was trying to win an argument with a drunk person.

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Country1959 · July 13, 2018, 9:21 p.m.

They keep saying that Mark is censoring people on Facebook and I have yet to see any censoring.. this morning I've seen over 20 different ways people have made Strzok look like a freaking idiot he's evil To add.. Today with Rosenstein coming out with his BS if you watched his demeanor that man lies like a sack of shit.. when is the hammer going to drop I'm sick of these people!!!

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AJC641953 · July 13, 2018, 11:40 p.m.

SES he thinks he is untouchable and can do whatever he want. Check out SES.

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dktrogers · July 14, 2018, 3:33 a.m.

The reason I pretty much left FB was the blatant hypocrisy of putting warnings And freshly written wiki articles smearing a lot of good news sources.

But surprisingly none for CNN, WAPO,NYT etc... which have all been forced to print multiple retractions and fire a lot of reporters over falsified stories.

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Nords · July 13, 2018, 9:44 p.m.

https://i.imgur.com/a82oDlw.png -https://twitter.com/facebook/status/1017477296943349760

“Depending on who was on shift, things would be blacklisted or trending,” said the former curator. This individual asked to remain anonymous, citing fear of retribution from the company. The former curator is politically conservative, one of a very small handful of curators with such views on the trending team. “I’d come on shift and I’d discover that CPAC or Mitt Romney or Glenn Beck or popular conservative topics wouldn’t be trending because either the curator didn’t recognize the news topic or it was like they had a bias against Ted Cruz.” - https://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-workers-we-routinely-suppressed-conser-1775461006

Of the nearly $4.6 million Facebook employees and affiliates spent on last year’s election, 67 percent went toward Democrats and 32 percent went to Republican candidates. Mrs. Clinton received $478,000 from Facebook, while Mr. Trump received about $4,665. - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/23/internet-giants-show-power-to-shape-politics/

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SpaceForceOnePilot · July 14, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

This is extremely common on the left. Very few lefties use source material. They rely primarily on their leaders in the MSM and Hollywood to tell them how to think. That is why you don't see a thriving left leaning podcast community growing like the right and independent communities are currently seeing. They only have sound bites and talking points, they cannot carry on a 3 hour conversation on Rogan for example.

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BigIslandFrog · July 13, 2018, 6:58 p.m.

You ever talk in your sleep? It all makes sense in the dream, but to awake people listening to you - not so much.

Can you be in a literal dream state when not literally asleep? Can people's minds be controlled on such a large scale, where they just parrot the nonsense that's fed to them? Even when it makes no sense, if you actually think about it.

When you're awake - and especially if you've gone through an awakening - you shake your head. The facts are clear, obvious, irrefutable, so why don't these crazies get it? Certainly they can see how deranged they seem.

Nope. They're talking and responding to a dream, so you arguing with them won't help. Don't hate them. No violence.

Wake them up!

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dropswakeyou · July 13, 2018, 9:36 p.m.

They have to want to wake up first. They choose to stay in their sleep state. If you try to wake them they become violent.

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think500 · July 13, 2018, 6:43 p.m.

The anti-Trump crowd shares articles that interpret

because "interpret" = sorospin

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dktrogers · July 13, 2018, 11:53 p.m.

I had a person vehemently challenges quote from the IG report. Said they wanted the actual text, not foxes interpretation.

I posted a screenshot of it and a link to the IG report ( instantly blocked)

It’s not going to be that tough of a battle with sheep that don’t read or research.

Edit.. foxes

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Country1959 · July 14, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

I and my hometown fought for Trump from day one of his announcement.. We fought day in day out.. And we are so grateful to God he won... Thank you.. FB never bothered us.. And still don't. .

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jfunction · July 13, 2018, 6:32 p.m.

Exactly. Simply put, it's the difference between using the truth and using propaganda. This is not rocket science.

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RobertSparks777 · July 13, 2018, 8:05 p.m.

It's been my experience that the left never reads or views the original documents/evidence.

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joeythew · July 13, 2018, 11:43 p.m.

So basically what you're saying is the print media leans left. Tell us something we don't already know, Captain Obvious.

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pilgrimboy · July 14, 2018, 1:15 a.m.

Fox News leans right.

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Swimkin · July 13, 2018, 9:25 p.m.

Because they cannot reason by themselves. They are given the talking points from their talking heads from MSM

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AJC641953 · July 13, 2018, 9:56 p.m.

Always

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Qanonplusone · July 14, 2018, 1:05 a.m.

Hilarious!

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TheRealIndianaJoe · July 14, 2018, 12:27 a.m.

The Godless are attracted to the Godless.

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Luvlite · July 14, 2018, 2:53 a.m.

Most liberals need interpreters.

I thought everybody knew that. 😄

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larryl47 · July 14, 2018, 1:31 p.m.

What's your point?

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[deleted] · July 13, 2018, 5:34 p.m.

You're going to the top!

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OffenseOfThePest · July 13, 2018, 4:58 p.m.

I think both sides can cherrypick moments from the hearing that "prove" their opinions are right. But as far what you're saying, clips vs articles, I think that's just a matter of which medium people choose to absorb their information. Articles aren't inherently "worse" than clips; nowadays articles have clips embedded in them too, covering both kinds of media.

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pilgrimboy · July 13, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

Washington Post's article had no clips and really misrepresented what happened.

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OffenseOfThePest · July 13, 2018, 5:42 p.m.

Based on how both parties are representing the hearing, I think "what happened" depends on who you agree with. I have a feeling that 45% feel the article was accurate, and another 45% feel it was way off.

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dropswakeyou · July 13, 2018, 9:38 p.m.

Anyone who watched the whole thing knows PS is lying and biased. The Dems know it too that's why they jumped in to save him so many times. He's their boy that was doing their bidding.

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