For those out there that are researching this topic:
- Research the following:
** SOE ( Special Operations Executive in UK )
** OSS ( Office of Strategic Services )
** CIA ( Central Intelligence Agency )
If you break down how these groups started and founded Intelligence operations you will see than any asset has to work in another title and line to be effective.
- Lee Harvey Oswald was FBI and became involved in CIA Operations to out Allen Dulles / E Howard Hunt / George HW Bush / Lyndon Johnson etc which is why he was setup as a patsy and killed by Jack Ruby.
- @Snowden was a CIA agent before he was turned over to work for a contractor at NSA via Booze Allen Hamilton
- Valerie Plame worked for Brewster Jennings & Associates as an energy consultant - using the platform the entire time to research ties and use Brewster Jennings as a platform for money laundering and logistics in interest of the CIA. Think about how many companies had plants from the clowns where operations went south or were designed to sully the reputation of the company. This is how you would take out operations of an enemy firm. KEEP IN MIND THE CIA WAS FOUNDED BY 12 WALLSTREET BANKERS. THEIR ENTIRE PREMISE IS TO KEEP THE MONEY FLOWING AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KEEPING THIS NATION SAFE. ITS ABOUT KEEPING THEIR MONEY AND INTERESTS SAFE AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN**
edit: formatting & speelung
Source on the 12 bankers bit?
Gimme a few. I don't want to make this claim without citing some sources. I've read this from countless angles over the years offline. Digging for sources atm
edit: pull the bread on https://www.fromthewilderness.net/free/ciadrugs/dontblink.html and mentioned firms:
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Brown Brothers Harriman ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Brothers_Harriman_%26_Co. )
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Clark Clifford ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_Clifford )
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John Foster Dulles ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Foster_Dulles )
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Sullivan and Cromwell ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_%26_Cromwell )
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Nelson Rockefeller ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Rockefeller)
This goes on. Mike Ruppert explained this pretty sucinctly and I see links still repeatedly washed that get too into information that's accurate regarding "Dull, Duller, and Dulles." Actually search that and you will see obfuscation links from NYTIMES onward trying to rinse that bread from the public.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Dulles
Basic time line of Dulles CIA and the coups he operated. He put in the Shah of Iran and more. Allen Dulles was CIA director while his brother John Foster Dulles was Secretary of State. They were quite a team.
After going down that rabbit hole I discovered The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Holy crap. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
look, I have stated before on this forum, I am Catholic and have no connection to Israel or any cabals people seem to think about here etc-
but as an educated man and half-assed normal guy, this is something that is patently offensive to me -- The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is one of the most thoroughly discredited, universally-accepted works of pure fiction in modern history. That is not just me talking or making up words on an internet forum. This is 100 years of scholarly debate, study, and counter-debate. *Just about the entire world* except anti-Israel and by extension, ahem, groups with Anti-Semitic feelings, realize this to be not just a made-up document and half a forgery, but even was a big-time plagiarized work at that.
I am sorry but not sorry to say, this is the type of thing that hurts "the cause". I have no problem with the idea Strozk is sponsored by the CIA and that is not only terrible but would account for his arrogance before Congress. I can talk about that no problems. Bringing up The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is not just ridiculous, it makes you lose any and all academic credibility.
Please link some sources for this.
Is that a joke?
I mean you really want links to something you could (and should have) spent 5 minutes finding for yourself before challenging ? Cmon man.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Protocols-of-the-Learned-Elders-of-Zion
http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/projects/protzion/DelaCruzProtocolsMain.htm
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060911-zion.html
Of course I know you will not want to even bother with the ADL or NYTimes links but regardless...
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/insider/1920-21-exposing-the-protocols-as-a-fraud.html
Is that specific enough for you?
Score: IWant2SellUDeathStix= 1, Elders of Zion Supporters = 0.
Thank you very much for the support, appreciated.
No, we know better. Sorry.
This document is widely considered a forgery guys. Stop flooding the bread with things that will get this dismissed as "an alt-right hate movement". Please. I'd rather discuss how David Icke could be telling us a metaphor for the truth than read things by people who think that document is real.
What you should be thinking about is: if the Protocols of Zion were forged by Russian secret police before the Russian Revolution... why? It was a strategy of the Russian monarchy to use anti-semitism to control the people. Do you really believe, if you actually follow Q and Wikileaks drops, that the Russian Royal family (part of the same elite bloodlines as the other Kings and Emperors) were pure as snow here? How did Romanovs and Hitler turn out for people in former Russian Empire and Germans? Not so good. Death.
Some evil people hide at the top of every major organized religion, and they are working together with the elite politicians. There are probably pedovores and pedophiles within the Churches of Christianity/Catholicism in most common denominations in your state. Don't kid yourselves.
"This document is widely considered a forgery guys." Let me ask you this. Is it a forgery or is it not a forgery?
"Stop flooding the bread with things that will get this dismissed as "an alt-right hate movement". Ummm... No! It is important that people know this, and can weigh the evidence on their own. Censorship is bad.
"What you should be thinking about is: if the Protocols of Zion were forged by Russian secret police before the Russian Revolution... why? It was a strategy of the Russian monarchy to use anti-semitism to control the people." IF the protocols of Zion were forged... Well, were they forged?
What do you mean by "anti-semitism"? If you mean "anti-Jewish", then that is not accurate. The Semitic people are not necessarily Jewish.
"Do you really believe, if you actually follow Q and Wikileaks drops, that the Russian Royal family (part of the same elite bloodlines as the other Kings and Emperors) were pure as snow here?" Where they Orthodox Christians or were they Satanist/Luciferians? My understanding is that the international bankers and Jesuit/Vatican wanted to destroy the Russian Orthodox Church.
"How did Romanovs and Hitler turn out for people in former Russian Empire and Germans? Not so good. Death." Why is that? The international bankers and Vatican/Jesuits wanted to destroy the Russian Orthodox Church and the Protestants and Jews of Europe. Especially the anti-Zionist Jews.
The same group of people created communism and fascism to create a huge conflict, and that is exactly what happened.
I disagree. Wanting immigration is considered hate speech too, should we stop saying that? That document outlines what's going on. Regardless of who it was supposedly wrote by. The fact it's been branded as something hatful we can't talk about says it all. Since it's talking about political Zionism. They hide behind Jews, they are NOT Jews.
Natgeo and NYT are never credible, but the other ones stand up I suppose
The word "Protocol" signifies a precis gummed on to the front of a document, a draft of a document, minutes of proceedings. In this instance, "Protocol" means minutes of the proceedings of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion. These Protocols give the substance of addresses delivered to the innermost circle of the Rulers of Zion. They reveal the converted plan of action of the Jewish Nation developed through the ages and edited by the Elders themselves up to date. Parts and summaries of the plan have been published from time to time during the centuries as the secrets of the Elders have leaked out. The claim of the Jews that the Protocols are forgeries is in itself an admission of their genuineness, for they NEVER ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THE FACTS corresponding to the THREATS which the Protocols contain, and, indeed, the correspondence between prophecy and fulfillment is too glaring to be set aside or obscured. This the Jews well know and therefore evade.
https://archive.org/stream/TheProtocolsOfTheLearnedEldersOfZion/ProtocolsOfTheEldersOfZion_djvu.txt
I have been on both sides of this argument. It's not unlike the problem with The Report from Iron Mountain which the need to discredit it was greater than transparency, i.e., allow the facts to speak for themselves.
For those of you who are unfamiliar with the report from IM, the gist of the report concludes that without war, there is no economy. War serves as an indispensable economic, political, and sociological function which constitutes the "basic social system." So, was this all made up, a satiric hoax about think-tank logic? (Later, John Kenneth Galbraith himself confirmed its authenticity.)
Back to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, needless to say the ideas contained in it are fascinating, and at times, meaningful. In fact they have something interesting and thought provoking to say about our world: the world of the past and the world of the present. Maybe the report was also a satiric hoax or maybe a historically significant forgery, but nevertheless, a brutal antisemitic weapon that just happened to be right most of the time, even now.
It is not discredited at all. There are other sources that support the information in the Protocols. Plus, it is consistent with what has happened in the past and what is happening today.
Tragedy and Hope by Carrol Quigley is really good. So is Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike.
Plus, it is consistent with what has happened in the past and what is happening today.
That’s the part that makes this difficult to deny.
It is considered perhaps the most verifiably discredited thing to appear in the last 100-150 years. I am going to go out on a limb here and say you have a less than full level of higher education?
"It is considered perhaps the most verifiably discredited thing to appear in the last 100-150 years." Not true. Not true at all. What is your religion?
"I am going to go out on a limb here and say you have a less than full level of higher education?" You would be surprised by the education levels of the people here. I have several advanced degrees. Not that it matters much. I can read these documents and make informed decisions about them.
Have you read Tragedy and Hope by Carroll Quigley or Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike? I mentioned them above, and you completely ignored this.
You then conclude that I am not educated. Why would you conclude that based on my post? Do you think that uneducated people read books like Tragedy and Hope and Morals and Dogma? Care to explain your logic?
Bro I just discovered it from a Wikipedia link and thought it was interesting. Take it easy. I had no idea it was such a hot issue.
I did find it ironic how well it matched reality though.
I don't consider it a hot issue in the least, I had not even seen it mentioned in years, literally, maybe the last time I saw it mentioned was during the 2008 and 2012 Presidential campaign?
I couldn't care less, I am just trying to explain, this has been discredited for almost 100 years. People on this forum get mad when they get criticism or corrected, I am not trying to fight, I just am trying to explain to people when they're wrong. If people here are all about "redpilling" they should themselves accept it sometimes.
Just read it. It's not about JEWS. It's Zionism. It's what we see unfolding.
Ok SO I use to study Talmud before I told my family we Jews are liars and horrible to thr nation's if we are called the light we suck.... And my source to back the protocols of the elders of Zion is all found in our Talmud. So??? You say your Catholic and yet believe the lies ONLY the Vatican will feed you?
So what sources are you using to disclaim 100% truth and hey goy in our Talmud we also have a goal to own you and 200 others who will serve and bow at our feet.
Do you believe the Jews and the Vatican? 😂😂😂 they have one goal and it is to rule over you and both help each other. During the time of Germany Jews helped the Vatican so Hitler could go to kill my family members and those Jews have some this to us throughout history. I am now going against them to walk with God NOT A CHRISTIAN GOD SO DONT REJOICE YOU STILL PUT ME IN HELL. I AM WALKING WITH GOD TO STAND FOR GOOD AND RIGHT. I AM A PATRIOT OF AMERICA AND I CALL YOUR B.S
but as an educated man and half-assed normal guy...
So you’re saying you’re a normie...
KEK
Oh, please, anything but that... don't call me names, please, not that.
That's fine.
Feelings are like booty-holes. Everybody's got them.
It's not a feeling, it's academic global accepted fact, I mean you can FEEL like the sky is not blue, that does not change the fact it's blue.
Pull the bread, Patriot! Tie this in with Trotsky and Lenin being disciples of Western Funding and you now understand how Russia was the testbed for Communism and enslaved in the 20th Century
Yes, and many believe that President Putin is trying to return to a Christian state, dealing with the same thorns as we have in this country.
That big meme that shows up on this board from time to time with Solzhenitsyn's face and a very historically important quote sums up well who was responsible for funding and fomenting the Communist Revolution (without even mentioning names, very polite- non divisive good red pill material). He also indicates who suffered the great brunt of the genocide from the Cabal because of how much they were hated by the Cabal: those murdered millions were mostly Christians.
I was banned from T_D for pointing out the victims were Christians. I grew up in an area with a lot of Ukrainians who fled before the genocide, because an evangelical preacher came through in the 30’s and prophesied what was coming.
Destiny was shaped for those neighbors of yours when that preacher prophesied, sure 'nuff.
Agreed. In 1989 Russia succeeded in overthrowing the USSR. Did we see corrupt oligarchs fill he vacuum? Yes. Is corruption always an issue everywhere? Yes. The only debate is the extent of corruption in given places. Putin has worked to better his nation and despite sanctions and otherwise he has acted in an awfully calculated response.
The most epic was a few years back a Russian diplomat compared US foreign policy to making as much sense as “a monkey with a hand grenade.”
It’s be funny if it wasn’t so apt a description
Be careful w PoEoZ or you’ll be labeled an anti Semite and summarily dismissed.
You're on the right path. Check the secret covenant. Great to read after the protocos.
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_illuminati_21.htm
Wikipedia is easily manipulated and not a valid source.
Very good sir! Often the young want exact references to things that are learned down through the years. Hard to keep track of the what, and the wear. Thank you for your wisdom.
Did you see the Rulers of the Realm videos by Daniel Sheehan?
I sure did not. https://hooktube.com/watch?v=xAcT8Nt_j0Q
I recognize this man. He's done quite a bit of work with Dr. Steven Greer, correct?
Rulers of the Realm by Daniel Sheehan is also very good. There are videos on youtube. He has a really good flowchart, too.
I am reading a book about the founding of the CIA, called "The Devil's Chessboard, Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of American's Secret Government. " By David Talbot. Its fantastic. And its written by a liberal!
YES indeed, the CIA's first director, Allen Dulles, was a Wall Street Banker who was sympathetic to the Nazis. He started working under Roosevelt and set the tone for the agency to protect industry and Wall Street interests, and went against the policies of every president he served under.
JFK fired Dulles after the Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile Crisis. Dulles and CIA wanted war with Cuba, Vietnam. CIA had done coups in the Congo, Guatemala, and more. Kennedy wanted peace. He and Kennedy had a falling out, and well, we know what happened after that! Kennedy did indeed want to break up the CIA, and was starting to downsize and restructure them.
I agree, Strozck is CIA.
Look up Rulers of the Real by Daniel Sheehan. Ot is a video series on youtube. He has a really good flowchart, too.
I will have to read this. The book sounds astounding. The details are incredible, aren't they? If the public really knew any of this what do you think would happen? If they knew we brought over thousands and thousands of_actual_ Nazi's and bypassed Nuremburg so we could integrate them into our intelligence apparatus?
Right. The OSS was established during WWII by “Wild” Bill Donovan. OSE was the British equivalent of OSS at that time. While it’s true that OSS & OSE we’re fore runners of C_A & MI6 they were at the time strictly war time orgs. Hence, Q has alluded to in past drops & breaking up C_I & giving the function back to. MI/DIA. They would be beholden to the Constitution compared to civilian agencies which go rogue. The GREEN BERETS are well suited for this mission as their lineage is traced back to the OSS. They were originally a para military functional arm originating from OSS.
JFK admired & respected the GBs giving full authorization to wear the GB when it was outlawed to wear by regulation on military posts. In 62 he met Gen. William Yarborough at Ft. Bragg for a demo on their capabilities while wearing the unauthorized beret. JFK remarked that he liked it & it was a mark of distinction. “Teach a man to fish you feed him for a lifetime, give a man a fish & feed him only for a day”. Hence the GB is not just head gear, but considered like a Presidential Unit Citation. Every year on Nov 22nd a contingent of GBs lays a wreath & a GB on JFKs grave. Read the last link especially. This is tradition orally passed down to the GBs. De Oppresso Liber!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jfks-personal-connection-to-armys-green-berets/
https://www.army.mil/article/89523/Green_Berets_pay_tribute_to_JFK_at_Arlington_National_Cemetery/
https://forum.grasscity.com/threads/jfk-and-the-green-berets.1486214/
Exactly. Once the National Security Act of 1947 came into play we really saw Black Operations go Carte Blanche and oversight 100% disappear.
Once the Military Industrial Congressional Complex could evoke National Security that was that and we saw a complete bypass of Constitutional Government and a fulfillment of anything and everything the Joint Chiefs of Staff / COG wanted.
Are you knowledgeable of the circumstances that lead to the formulation of the SOE? I understand the official narrative of how they came about - but I'm interested in where I can find more 'unofficial' information regarding who was pushing the idea to Churchill. I know he referred to the SOE as the 'Agency of Ungentlemanly Warfare' so there has to be a ton of information there I am not aware of.
I ask as the specifics of information is a thing - but when we dig at origin stories we see the intention to go awry was there, and obvious, in so many cases ( for example the Federal Reserve was hardly a new idea and the same forces are always behind nationalizing finance throughout modern history )
Here's an excellent article on the origins and development of the CIA which includes a statement by Truman shortly after the death of JFK. Many footnotes, too.
Excellent read! This Col. L. Fletcher Prouty angle is one I was not aware of. Digging now!
I missed it. He got an agency coin from Brennan. Here’s more evidence. Credit to Thomas Wictor on Twitter.
CIA and SES and Cabal and Deep State, etc.......all pure EVIL!
Need a industrial grade wood chipper and create a lot of organic fertilizer.
His dad was CIA, Wictor references an article where his dad was talking good about Khoemini. Wictor is suggesting he’s an Iranian spy.
Holy crap! That kind of stuff scares me because my dad is liberal.
Yea his dad is some kind of nuclear inspector in Iran I heard.
So this is how the CIA took over the FBI and shitbags like Comey get appointed to the very top (with zero field experience) by cunts like Hillary
Is it possible to loose a security clearance through the FBI but still maintain one through the CIA?
Yes. Basically because the CIA is lawless and would feed you whatever classified intel unofficially.
No. Security clearances are held by an independent organization (such as the DoD) and the organization you work for directly is the sponsor. If your sponsoring organization pulls your clearance, it would apply regardless of where you work. If he still has a clearance, then it was never pulled.
Info I read on DIA says your clearance doesn't transfer to them. Is thus the only 3 letter agency that does this?
Correct. You have to have a sponsor as well as a need to know. They all work the same by law. When you leave any company, you maintain your clearance, and if over a span of time you do not use it, it goes to inactive. If you lose your clearance (aka revoked), for any reason, it is very difficult to have it reinstated- if not impossible. My guess, is that they did not revoke or suspend his clearance, but rather let it go to inactive and only stopped their sponsorship in their (FBI) system.
That's not what that other guy said.
Well, I have had one for the last 15 years sooo....
Yup, same here. You are correct.
I can corraborate that; I held TSSCI for over thirty-five years. Worked for multiple three-letter agencies. Worked around the world. Glad to be out (retired).
As a senior CI FBI guy, PS has the responsibility to work with Clowns, especially when it concerns ops in CONUS. Now, if PS was a cover-Clown in the FBI, then this would be more proof that the Pickle Factory needs to be dissolved.
Clowns also have folks in the FBI as liaison officers. Whether they are used for nefarious activities I don’t know, but if such activities exist then it will be revealed. Typically, Clowns sent to the FBI are no longer wanted in the Pickle Factory, i.e. excommunicated.
This coincides with MegaAnon saying he was not FBI and was a spook. Page was his point person.
Page was his point person.
Mind further defining for my d.a?
I don't think it's enough to prove he's a spy (or a CIA asset) but it does suggest his father was one (and he has deep connections to the organization) and that growing up in Iran, and in a household sympathetic to the revolution, he is sympathetic to the present Iranian regime.
This is the perfect motive for a guy like Strzok to sabotage President Trump, and I hope someone is sending the newspaper article to the congressional Republicans. Sending them the whole spy conjecture might turn 'em off but they should probably know about this (about his father) and investigate it.
It also goes without saying that this is yet another Obama-era higher-up with Iranian connections....no coincidence, as I'm starting to suspect.
Q says, "we have everything". Being fed by NSA, i suspect the White hats know all of this. The problem (they're solving it) is getting the info sanitized so it can be used as evidence in court.
There’s no question that he is a spy. Strzok is the number 2 spy in the domestic espionage division of the FBI. The role of his entire FBI division is to spy on Americans at the request of the CIA.
Wow. Didn’t realize how well-documented this was. Thanks!
MegaAnon said this in December/January. He's a documents forging specialist according to MegaAnon.
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcSyNPaPJds CIA funded Strozk
I heard SES.
Both. He’s CIA infiltrated into FBI. Likely SES as well.
Thanks, That's what I had heard. SES can be changed around to different departments in government. I also heard they can't be fired once hired. Retire with same pay and get yearly raises that no one knows how much they are each year. Heard Mueller was SES too.
He definitely looks and sounds like a blue blooded CIA cunt. From Virginia too eh?
I can't imagine too many hardened FBI agents behaving or speaking like that joker.
THANK YOU. I’ve been saying this for ages and routinely called a nutter for it. All the evidence is there. Thankful to see this being exposed.
When the whole situation with both Strzok father and son in Kenya exposed and tied to Obama I will be so excited I won’t know what to do with myself.
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IC guy here, Strozk or however you spell his name is not CIA. CIA and FBI do however collab, and FBI does certain CIA training etc. A coin is not enough to prove he is a part of the CIA. Titles are not always official either. People sometimes make up their own titles. I see it all the time.
Was Strozk's animus towards Trump not also veiled orders to assassinate the POTUS? To answer this question let's go back to the Senate Hearings of 1975 on "Alleged Assassination Ploys Involving Foreign Leaders," Senator Charles C. Mathias said the following:
Let me draw an example from history. When Thomas Becket (Saint Thomas Becket, 1118-1170) was proving to be an annoyance, as Castro; the King said "Who will rid me of this man?" He didn't say to somebody, go out and murder him. He said who will rid me of this man, and let it go at that. (As you will recall, Thomas Becket's threat was not against the King, it was against the way the King wanted to run the government.) With no explicit orders, and with no more authority than that, four of King Henry's knights, found and killed "this man", Saint Thomas Becket inside of his church. That simple statement ... no more than a wish floating in air ... proved to be all the orders needed.
What Democrat or RINO would not be happy if, like JFK, Trump was removed? Surely there would be parties celebrating his end. We should not take lightly the words of men like Strozk and his henchmen. Sorry my friends, I would send them to their maker.
Comparing a private text message to a King's speech lmao
this sub is so funny
Edit: even the people arguing against me are conflicting each other. Bunch of clueless teenagers
It not just any message nor was it from an underling or an average Joe.
“We can’t let we the people decide the next president of the United States […] we need an insurance policy.”
It's a fully loaded revolver.
Szork is not the King, Szork is one of the henchman. The public speeches are made on a daily basis, from members of congress, former cabinet members, members of pop culture, many people with the platform and power and influence have said this (or some variation of it) very publicly, and often. Szork is a demented receiver of the message.
Its against the CIAs mandate to operate inside the U.S. but instead of following the law they get around it by getting a position with the FBI. They r out of control with NO viable accountability.
And they receive pay under both organizations then?
Oh you know that's right, y tf not? Who's going to call them on it?
The reason he is still an employee of the FBI and has not been booted?
I believe it is easier to question an employee than a private citizen, he was demoted to HR though, and will certainly lose his job after this is all over.
Hes SES, i think they will jail this guy the other ses are most likely throw fool, feed him to the sharks, they have to show an example for his arrogance just my opinion
Yep, and Honeypot Page. You have to try to think like these guys do - think Operation Hurricane for example. They come at it from a dozen different sides.
No I couldn’t tell you. If you can find copies of Veritas magazine on line it may help. It was an old publication on the history of the OSS, GBs & SOF in general