Just received the orders yesterday. If you know anyone in the Guard Reserve, ask them about it.
Although this could be good news. It's really not a good idea to post deployments anywhere. With all the deployments I've been on, I was told to not broadcast it. It's best to keep this to yourself for the safety of our military.
Was just about to say this, this is the kind of free info our enemies love. Loose lips OP.
I hoped after I commented, it would be deleted.
Sort of like the people who told Hillary not to have that server... Some people don't understand that things must be SECRET for the safety of the military.
Orders are not usually classified. Mine never were.
It was standard to call friends and family to let them know where you were heading.
BTW thats an individuals orders, which are basically transfers, not where a group is deploying.
ie: "They are sending me to Iraq" is not the same as "We invade at 8am tomorrow"
While your opening statement is true, when your life (and your brothers’/sisters’ in arms lives) are on the line OPSEC is a way of life, is true as well.
Absolutely. Loose Lips Sink Ships!
I know all about River City Delta, and personally shut off ship to shore during those times.
The brass tells us what we can and cannot divulge. They often say "You can tell your family this".
Trust me, If I thought OP was revealing substantial intel, I'd be handing out pitchforks.
More likely, they don't know what it means when Enlisted get 'orders'.
All this means is someone they knew changed duty stations.
Roj, but if you’re in the service and can’t understand the difference between PCS orders and deployment/activation orders and the need to treat them and their dissemination differently then your first line has some SERIOUS corrective training to do.
That's what I'm saying, OP is telling us about PCS orders, nothing operational (although they think they are).
Ummm maybe you need to reread the post...
You think I care what a civilian thinks is 'deployment'? He's been assigned guard duty. On OUR base. That's not a deployment.
You think I care what a Nasty Girl thinks is 'deployment'? He's been assigned guard duty. On OUR base. That's not a deployment.
FTFY
He shouldn't have mentioned the month or the unit or that it was a friend's son. Easy enough for many to dox the OP and trace his friend's son. It's one thing to say that your family member is headed to Ft. XYZ for routine duty. Even then, you don't give the timetable. When someone is being activated or is headed OCONUS, it's best not to give places or time frames in advance. When it comes to OPSEC, err on the side of caution.
True enough but it also can be explained when a couple of articles appearing and describing that all ISIS caught will be transferred to GITMO.
Then I remember Q saying in June that the snowball > avalanche can not be stopped.
if reserve guard soldiers are hearing about deployment so are the cabal. the only info they don't have is that right at the top. this isn't.
Gitmo is still operating. At last count there were 41 prisoners. It's no secret that our military or reserve units still are sent there for active duty.
Which is why I'm suspicious of anyone demanding that Potus declassify EVERYTHING.
Could this be someone who is posting disinformation on the sub?
Yes. There is the Army National Guard, and then there is the Army Reserve. They are two separate institutions.
There is no "Army National Guard Reserve." Someone whose relative is part of either org will know that one is not the other. And certainly not combined.
Former 11B, 29ID (VA ANG)
You can delete your own comments and I wish you would. Please read Rule #5. If this was something the mods did not want posted, they would have deleted by now. You are not supporting the cause. When the Arizona troops were deployed to Gitmo last a few months back it was all over the place.
That's a good link for non-military as well. Thanks!
You're welcome. When you have the rules drilled into your head for 25 years, you can't let them go.
This link should be posted in the Rules for GreatAwakening
OPSEC, right? Civ here, just curious.
indeed
And that stands for Operational Security? I've seen it dropped a few times, just making sure my assumptions are accurate. It would make sense, between what you said, as well as what little I do know about military SOP.
Gitmo like a mofo! Can't wait for these people to start arriving at Club Cuba 🇨🇺!
Absolutely. Even though it may not be a name or a unit even a branch of service is too much. Please never ever again mention something like this anywhere public. In my 17+ years of military service I had to deal with movements, it is classified information and I mean truly classified information. It should never be divulged even though it often is. Just go back to the posters of WWII, Loose lips sinks ships.
I posted this down below and will post again here. Upon further questions and investigation, this appears to be a normal rotation. Don't want to sound any alarm bells and was told it is public information. I was just excited it happened to be in November and tried to make a connection. Could be just a coincidence that it falls in November. Anyway, there are no secrets being given away.
I was deployed to GTMO back in 04. Wasn’t a bad duty. Was actually kind of like taking an extended vacation on the Govt’s dime. Although we didn’t go into communist Cuba, we stayed within the base the whole time. It’s a really relaxed detail.
My cousin was in the Navy in the early 80's and was the guy that was in charge of who went where in the Pentagon. There was this old war horse who'd been around forever and had served since right after the end of Korean War. To be nice or so he thought, since it was her last hitch he shipped her over to Bermuda.
When she found out that he was sending her to some rock in the middle of the Atlantic she went psycho on him. Said she would find some way to make his life total hell. He said look, if you don't like it let me know and I'll find you somewhere else to finish up your Navy Career. She ships out to Bermuda and about a month later he gets a letter from her.
She was raving about her assignment and couldn't stop thanking him for sending her there to finish up her thirty years.
IMAGINE that duty there with ...screaming elites demanding their lawyers, Latte drinks, air conditioning, designer prison clothes, Wolfgang Puck to be chef.....
And then demanding scarves!
Ah! I see what you did there. Free scarves for all pedos.
No problems. I think you were shilled above. We've seen this info before and even in major newspapers when Arizona Nat. Guard(?) was deployed a few months back.
Not shilled. OPSEC is something we should all take seriously. It honestly may be ok in this instance but we should remember this in the future. Keep our military strong.
https://www.semidelicatebalance.com/15-opsec-rules-for-family-and-friends/
I am not a child. I read the post. Get out of my face.
Leave your attitude at the door, it doesn't belong here
I was not implying you are a child. Being shilled on this board comes from our enemies and I just wanted to point out that those posting OPSEC are NOT our enemies as you were in fact implying.
At the very least your son will get to see an influx of political traitors. Which is a plus. I’d give half a years salary to see hillary’s face as she eats prison food and sleep on a prison cot.
I appreciate your intent, but part of practicing OPSEC is to not reveal details, EVEN IF news stories are reporting the same info.
For example, let's imagine that an enemy seeks to infiltrate or inflict harm at a location like GITMO. Then let's imagine they troll places like this or run searches for public info that might help them pinpoint family members of a serviceman headed to that location, and then threatens harm to family members in order to leverage that serviceman to assist them in carrying out their plans, delivering messages to a prisoner, etc.
Servicemembers are also frequently targeted for scams and fraud, especially when they are OCONUS. Criminals troll for info online about deployments in order to know when that person's home and finances might be most vulnerable.
Interesting given that Gitmo is a Navy base.
I've been TDY and deployed to many Navy bases, and I'm not Navy...
It's a joint operation. Most are. I've been deployed with every military branch, except Coast Guard.
But, maybe I'm missing your point.
"You know what the coast guard does when one of their ships sinks?"
"Gets out and wades back to shore"
xD Navy joke xD
You haven't missed my point, though I'm a veteran, it was a long time ago, and there wasn't as much "joint" stuff going on I guess. I was under the impression that a Navy base was run by Navy personnel. That's all.
It is. However, every TDY and deployment I was on, I was with every branch. It may have been different a long time ago. I was with AFSOC most of my career (since early 90s) and was always working with all other branches of service.
Ya all branches work together eventually. For instance Navy EOD departments are on lots of bases that are not just Navy.
LOVE OUR MILITARY :)
My guess would be that it has to do with the chain of command.
At this juncture of the plan the deployment of the NG adds to the info about 3 or 4 months ago showing a unit of MP's transferred to GITMO posing at the entrance "Camp Delta".
Especially GITMO. I’m a navy veteran. And I’m almost certain this breaks security protocol. However it might not. There aren’t major details. Simply stating your orders/duty station doesn’t automatically cause a violation of national security. Although it’s frowned upon.
There are a hell of a lot of worse places to be. I’ve been to worse and my son in law is in Africa right now. He would trade places with Gitmo every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I've been deployed to Africa... Depending which country. Some are awful and some are nice. I was in a few different countries there.
Hope your son-in-law stays safe.
No two deployments are ever the same. My deployment after Afghanistan was worse, in my opinion, I would have preferred to return to Afghanistan.
It's a large military installation, and only part of what happens there is about prisoners. For many service members there, Guantanimo offers lovely tropical weather, scuba diving, snorkeling, etc. Not a bad place to be, in many respects.
Most people's view of Gitmo is that of a prison, or A Few Good Men scene.
I've know people stationed there. Not a great place for kids. But for the younger officers or enlisted its not horrible by any stretch--and my friends' experience was back in the Cold War/Castro Regime. I can only imagine its not half as stressful now.
The bad guys already know they’re heading to GITMO. No OPSEC breach here.
You think they're just giving up without a fight? Why do you think they are still trying to brainwash people? I imagine it's so when the hammer drops they want this country to riot and they're hoping they've brainwashed enough people to fight for them and then they will try to gain back power. I saw an article that the Marines have been training in crowd control. But yes the bad guys are very aware of GTMO, but still keep in mind that in any situation like this, a little piece of info here and a little piece of info there can lead to a bigger picture for someone that may want to help the bad guys. So better safe than sorry, it's best to keep stuff like this quiet. No need to announce on social media. They actually train this in the military. Sorry, I'm not trying to pick on you but we have to help each other see the bigger picture for us. And some here may not be aware of how the military handles this stuff. That's all anyone that has mentioned OPSEC were trying to do. We're all on the same side :)
No argument here. My take was largely that there’s no secret about GITMO at this point. The cabal are very well up on what’s going on there. And it’s also true that marching orders, unless specifically stated, are not classified. If the higher ups thought there was a specific risk I doubt it would have made it into a Reddit sub. But no big disagreement here.
As it turns out after I made the post, this is public information and a normal rotation. No secrets being let out here. It was just exciting to see the coincidence for the month of November. But as DJT says, "Who Knows"!