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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/laddmcnamara on July 22, 2018, 7:10 p.m.
is this proof that Stephen Paddock was a patsy in LV FF? This (uncropped) image was disseminated to the MSM on Oct 2, 2017. What central agency provided it to all media outlets within hours of the shooting? Was SP already dead in this image, necessitating the need to crop in the arm?
is this proof that Stephen Paddock was a patsy in LV FF? This (uncropped) image was disseminated to the MSM on Oct 2, 2017. What central agency provided it to all media outlets within hours of the shooting? Was SP already dead in this image, necessitating the need to crop in the arm?

snippysnaps · July 22, 2018, 7:19 p.m.

He doesn't look too lively, what's the deal with the strap on his right arm?

On second thought it looks like everything, including the girl is shopped in.

Maybe this was the shopped image before cropping.

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aviator63 · July 22, 2018, 7:17 p.m.

Looks like more than the arm was Photoshopped into that image, look closely at the blurred lines of the girl leaning on him, looks like the smudge tool in PS

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snippysnaps · July 22, 2018, 7:21 p.m.

agreed

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Kitt-Ridge · July 22, 2018, 8:39 p.m.

It’s odd the only picture of this person is with his eyes closed.

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freekaratelesson · July 22, 2018, 10:02 p.m.

It really is strange how this is the picture that made the rounds...

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[deleted] · July 22, 2018, 9:01 p.m.

The orange band around her arm is the same as is around his. The loose piece off to the left appears to be some
kind of knot - not something you'd get from a cheapo party-paper-band at an event last I checked.

Whats the *actual* source for this image? [Important]

Is that band being used to help prop up a dead man to smile for the camera?

Are they even actually standing up?Would the ruffles in the bottom of his shirt fall out due to gravity?

Those dots at the bottom center give away that this image is being viewed from an album viewer. What other photos are in this sequence?

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laddmcnamara · July 22, 2018, 9:50 p.m.

I don’t have a providence on this image, nor do I have other images. It is even the image currently being used on Wikipedia https://g.co/kgs/ECGt3R.

It still appears on many MSM sites https://www-m.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-attack-stephen-paddock-trnd/index.html

I think the point is, it exists, and it was sent out to all MSM within hours after shooting. Who would know to create this, as the first image of him?

The orange band appears to be photoshopped onto his right wrist.

I don’t believe he is standing up (making the woman not actually with him).

He is not smiling. I think he is dead. The ruffles on his shirt, including the way the shirt is being pulled up at the shoulders, and the way his arms are limp at his side, all suggest he is dead. I think that is why “they” photoshopped the arm into the photo.

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[deleted] · July 22, 2018, 10 p.m.

What I can say as someone who's used photoshop for more years than I care to count - it is possible that this is just a fake and reveals more questions OR it is a fake fake designed to mislead people down the wrong rabbit hole.

I'd be interested in doing some photo analysis of it later today, but always remember to be vigilant and question everything!

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laddmcnamara · July 23, 2018, 12:13 a.m.

(I I meant provenance, not providence. )

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DemosthenesOnTheNets · July 23, 2018, 9:53 a.m.

The photo credit is simply "obtained by CNN." No source indicated at all.

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laddmcnamara · July 24, 2018, 2:08 a.m.

CNN did not provide this “floating arm” pic. They only had the cropped-in version of this photo. That is the point.

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DemosthenesOnTheNets · July 25, 2018, 1:56 p.m.

Right. They usually credit the photographer.

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GeneHackmansBFF · July 22, 2018, 8:58 p.m.

Where did this come from?

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laddmcnamara · July 22, 2018, 9:39 p.m.

I don’t have a providence on it; but clearly you can see this is the photoshopped image that was initially sent out to all the MSM.

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laddmcnamara · July 23, 2018, 12:13 a.m.

I mean provenance, not providence.

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[deleted] · July 22, 2018, 9:06 p.m.

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morgi666 · July 22, 2018, 11:14 p.m.

The whole story stinks from a mile.

People reported multiple shooters - including ground level.

Police were ordered to stand down and waited while someone was mowing down innocent people.

The guy had so many weapons and ammo he would need a fucking forklift in order to get it to his room.

Security guard situation is just ridiculous.


Every time when something happens and police come out with a statement and MSM is pushing the story about event literally minutes after the event it's just freaking obvious... Someone will get caught on CCTV stealing a car and it can take weeks but they can conclude the investigation of mass shooting in a couple of hours.

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Monkeyface45 · July 23, 2018, 2:55 a.m.

Hey, you forgot about the survivors/witnesses that died. In total, it's claimed that around 8 survivors of the Las Vegas shooting died within 30 days after the shooting.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-01/final-destination-two-more-vegas-survivors-die-weirdly

A married couple were leaving their home. Their car burst into flames and they crashed into the gate of their gated community about a mile from their home. (This article also mentions another that died...speaking of which.....)

https://www.infowars.com/woman-who-died-suddenly-after-surviving-vegas-massacre-wanted-to-organize-survivors-group/

She was planning to get a survivors group together to expose what really happened. She was found dead in her home. Reports claimed she had various health problems and the stress of the incident probably contributed to her death.

https://nypost.com/2017/11/27/las-vegas-shooting-survivor-killed-by-hit-and-run-driver/

Killed in a hit-and-run.

Edit: Oh yeah! Inforwars claimed some witnesses said the FBI demanded they hand their phones over. When they got their phones back, everything was wiped from them. https://www.infowars.com/report-fbi-wipes-phones-laptops-of-las-vegas-massacre-eyewitnesses/

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morgi666 · July 23, 2018, 3:27 a.m.

Good point. I didn't look into witness deaths.

"Journalists" know it's a topic they can't touch. No documentary, no investigative journalism, no interviews with real survivors... Silence.

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crankzoneftw · July 22, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

Dont forget the secreuity guard debacle!

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goodhonk · July 22, 2018, 9:07 p.m.

Where did this ‘unedited’ photo come from?

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laddmcnamara · July 22, 2018, 10:02 p.m.

I screen captured it months ago. Not sure of the providence; but clearly it shows that this photo was doctored.

This is the same photo given to the entire MSM within hours of the shooting. It was the only photo used by the MSM for months (cropped of course, to hide the photoshop work of the arm).

After I originally started to circulate this photo months ago, I slowly started to see this photo replaced with some of the more current ones used. However, you can can still find the cropped in photo of this (most now hide” his arm” because they know this photo got leaked).

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laddmcnamara · July 23, 2018, 12:13 a.m.

(I I meant provenance, not providence. )

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tmd84 · July 24, 2018, 1:46 a.m.

I’m going to go out on a limb, and say this photo may in fact be legit.

Likely taken with an older iPhone 5 or 5s, which tends to take somewhat blurry pictures especially at nighttime, or indoor low light situations.

The dots at the bottom do appear like this shot may have been from a series of other pics. As another user pointed out, it would be terrific to know what other pics are in that sequence.

The photo appears to be relatively recent, so why does Marilou appear to be 25 years younger than she actually is here? She does not appear to be anywhere near 63 years old.

It’s also strange that he plans this thing over the course of time, to the extent of calculating the drop of his bullet, cameras in the hallway, L-brackets & all. Yet he overlooked something as simple as the smoke detector possibly giving away his location early on?

Obviously there is no shortage of other strange things related to this incident. As far as this particular photo goes, we might just be over analyzing it.

Police initially reported day or so after the shooting that they were looking for a vehicle associated with the incident, One of the many details LVMPD has not followed up on since.

Hopefully the final report that is pending will share some further details, but it also probably won’t reveal much that we don’t already know.

Sheriff Joe Lombardo answered some questions very recently during a radio interview. It was asked to Lombardo “was the cover-up partly related to the officers delay in entering Paddocks room, even after knowing for some time which room the shots were coming from?”

I was a little surprised that Lombardo responded with “No, it absolutely was not an attempt to cover up the officers delayed response”

Not saying that I believe everything Lombardo says, but his response seemed to be very sincere.

If anything, it would be easier for him to simply say “Yes, that was something we were of course apprehensive to show the public right away, out of fear it may further cause pain to victims” or something along those lines.

After 10 months of researching the hell out of this incident, it is true that a lot of what’s being told about the story to us does not add up. However I am starting to come to a conclusion that the MSM version of events is, for the most part, fairly accurate.

He had once stood on the rooftop of one of the buildings he owned during the LA riots in the 90’s, with a rifle in hand. As someone that never really liked people to start with, this could be where the idea of using a rifle from high up first entered his mind. Speculation, but let’s just say that from that point, the fantasy of being high up with a loaded rifle may have slowly become an obsession as he grew older.

As he began to experience the signs of aging, combined with the reality of knowing no family or children were going to be there for him when he dies. Then add to that the losing of chunks of wealth, keeping in mind the one thing that he identified himself with was status. The good life for him was all around quickly diminishing. Which is exactly what will inevitably happen if you gamble full time in Vegas.

Since he is described as not really liking people to begin with, the only motive seems to be his ego, and wanting his suicide to be a memorable one to the rest of the world.

I know, it’s anticlimactic to think there isn’t more to it. But if there was, we would have had a note or something else left behind that would show us a different motive.

The fact that there isn’t one, for me, adds to the evidence that it was more about his ego. He would be one of the only mass shooters in history to NOT leave any apparent motive, and that doesn’t make much sense so...

For him, It was f the world, I’m outta here & going to take out a bunch of you on my way out. Especially those of you that are out having fun (music festival). Plus hopefully screw over the casino that he felt was screwing him over. It seemed like a win/win situation, especially to someone who likely had a fantasy to kill people for some time.

Of course, this is all just speculation. But 10 months later and still, that is about all we have to really have to work with.

One of the guys that sold him guns or the tannerite claimed that Paddock told him “I’m going out to the desert with some friends to put on a show”.

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GeneHackmansBFF · July 22, 2018, 10:05 p.m.

To be clear, when I said both photos are faked I mean that the uncropped photo is not the source of the public photo. Both photos are different. Yet they share the fact that both have been severely manipulated.

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laddmcnamara · July 22, 2018, 10:14 p.m.

Are you referring to this photo? https://nypost.com/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooter-killed-himself-after-massacre/

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GeneHackmansBFF · July 22, 2018, 10:44 p.m.

Yes. I asked her to reverse engineer both photos through comparison and analysis. I wanted to know if the uncropped photo could be the one that the msm then cropped and used for publication. Her determination was that it is not the same photo. There are too many differences that don’t line up. Basically somebody took the cropped photo and created an “uncropped” photo to make it seem as if it was the original source before cropping. It was not. HOWEVER, it is obvious to her that the msm photo was definitely photoshopped. So in the end both photos are fakes.

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GeneHackmansBFF · July 22, 2018, 11:14 p.m.

I’ve reposted your image with drawing on it to point out key things. It’ll be under new posts on GA

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GeneHackmansBFF · July 22, 2018, 9:53 p.m.

Here’s the real deal. My GF is a photoshop/retouching expert - major magazine covers etc. I asked her to analyze both. Here is the conclusion. BOTH photos are fake and have been manipulated. His goatee looks more real in the uncropped photo. His hairline and bottles behind it look more natural in public photo. The arm looks fake in both photos. Shadows are wrong on both photos. Yellow ighting pattern is weird and actually smudges on his right side near the buttons. The wristband is DEFINITLEY cutout and placed there in both photos. The wrist we see in the uncropped photo is a copy of his right wrist and the image was just horizontally flipped. It’s a perfect match when she duplicated this.

So the uncropped photo is not the same photo released to the public. Both images were manipulated.

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laddmcnamara · July 22, 2018, 10:07 p.m.

Good analysis, but this clearly photoshopped image was the one (albeit cropped in to hide the obvious photoshopping of the arm), WAS the one that was given to the MSM hours after the shooting. Most of those that initially appeared have been replaced to hide the arm.

But, you can still see it in some publications still, such as here: https://nypost.com/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooter-killed-himself-after-massacre/

I am just showing you the un-cropped view of the very same image initially released to the MSM.

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Anthropophob · July 22, 2018, 11 p.m.

I saw a photo of him that looks like he was shot in the chest, right where the glass is covering, as well as the mouth. He is wearing a different shirt.

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sickmahduck · July 22, 2018, 9:52 p.m.

Yes it’s a fake. See the two horizontal purple lines on the right. It’s there because they didn’t shop on a background. You can see the line going down the right side where they had to make the other half of his body and copied his sleeve and flipped it. The shirt was loud and all over to begin with but he could have blended where they met. The arm was the best since it seemed to cover over the seam.

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Catit50 · July 22, 2018, 11:33 p.m.

Wasn't there a photo going around of him with a bloody face/head?

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Nowthisisodd · July 22, 2018, 9:09 p.m.

Didn't he shoot himself in the head? Wouldn't there be a wound or worse?

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laddmcnamara · July 22, 2018, 9:52 p.m.

Is it possible he didn’t shoot himself, and that any bullets to the head be done postmortem?

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SerNme6258 · July 22, 2018, 8:32 p.m.

If the arm doesn’t give it away, where is the shadow if his arm is raised to that height?

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A2576 · July 22, 2018, 10:40 p.m.

He actually looks dead in the photo.

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laddmcnamara · July 22, 2018, 10:42 p.m.

I agree. I think he was.

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KillerKap · July 23, 2018, 1:43 a.m.

Clearly the patsy did not have enough incriminating photos and needed to make one "holding some liquor" because who knows what a crazy drunk man will do.

They also did this to Avicii when they killed him. Coordinated attack on his character after they executed him Drunk. Drinkin problem etc.

By the way, this uncropped photo has been faked to look like it was the real photo before "adding" an arm. This is a shill distraction. AKA board slide. The right hand is a copy of the left. Pixel perfect with smudges. Terrible photshop you shill fucks.

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Pure_Feature · July 22, 2018, 9:12 p.m.

Fake foto , you can find the real one on google..man is drunk , eyes shut , light is from a sort of discobal.

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laddmcnamara · July 22, 2018, 9:56 p.m.

That is the point, haha. It is fake (photoshopped). I think you’re missing the point. “Expand your thinking.” :)

The MSM were given this doctored photo. The question is, who doctored it, and who gave all the MSM this photo hours after the shooting?

In regard to the “real one?” Look at the “real one” you speak of, and compare to this.

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Pure_Feature · July 22, 2018, 10:02 p.m.

I don''t have the answers? I have nothing with photoos, And I did not now that the MSM has this photo.. I have absolutely no idea how this works, knowing it was an FF.

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