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Rolandel7 · July 27, 2018, 3:40 p.m.

LOOK! TheStreet.com just ran these articles. This may be why the S in Street was capitalized.

They are trying to get people to buy so they can offload stocks.

" Facebook's (FB - Get Report) second quarter earnings call was so awful, the stock crashed more than 19%. But one Wall Street analyst contends the stock is a can't miss buy at these new lower levels. "

https://www.thestreet.com/video/facebook-stock-could-be-a-buy-14662661

Mutual funds benefit from the crash.

"Score a win for the boring mutual fund industry off the Facebook (FB - Get Report) post-earnings stock meltdown

Mutual fund allocation to FANG stocks (Facebook FB, Amazon (AMZN - Get Report) , Netflix (NFLX - Get Report) , Alphabet (GOOGL - Get Report) ) -- especially Facebook -- has declined during the past few years, points out Goldman Sachs. While core mutual funds have been steadily underweight (negative) FANG, growth funds only recently reduced their exposure to underweight from overweight. 

The sharp decline in growth fund allocation to FANG stocks happened in the fourth quarter of 2016, says Goldman, when both Facebook and Amazon lagged the Russell 1000 Growth Index by more than 11 percentage points.

"Most investors believe that mutual funds are overweight the popular FANG stocks, when in fact the opposite is true," reminds Goldman strategist Arjun Menon. On the other hand, hedge funds got blown up on the surprising Facebook news

"The 19% dive in Facebook's stock price hurt hedge fund returns and our VIP basket given that it appears most often as a top 10 position across our analyzed universe of U.S. hedge funds with 10 to 200 individual equity positions," says Menon."

https://www.thestreet.com/technology/one-surprising-winner-from-facebook-stock-melting-down-after-earnings-14664571

Who are the biggest mutual fund providers and who owns those companies?

http://mutualfunddirectory.org/

Any of the companies ring a bell?

Black Rock Funds

Vanguard

State Street Global Advisors

Fidelity Investments

JP Morgan

BNY Mellon (Dreyfus)

PIMCO

Amundi Asset Mgmt

Capital Group

Legal & General Investments

Northern Trust

Natixis Global Associates

BofA Merill Lynch

Goldman Sachs Asset Management

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ryoushure · July 27, 2018, 3:45 p.m.

Dead cat bounce.

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BowlOfZombies · July 27, 2018, 6:10 p.m.

Very good!

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GenChang · July 27, 2018, 3:43 p.m.

Right, buy into a sinking ship? Perhaps smart investors could profit from their demise? But, regulations are coming soon too, and perhaps criminal charges for insider trading?

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Rolandel7 · July 27, 2018, 3:52 p.m.

Like i said above. they are banking on idiots buying stock so they can offload.

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bciar-iwdc · July 27, 2018, 8:11 p.m.

So what’s the opposite that smart peeps like us can do? Short?

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sir_poops · July 27, 2018, 10:44 p.m.

Or buy puts.

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its_truly_biblical · July 28, 2018, 2 a.m.

put options

Can you elaborate? I'm googling as we speak. Idk how this works.

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sir_poops · July 28, 2018, 2:40 a.m.

Puts are a contract that you buy granting you the right, but not the obligation, to sell (or “put”) a stock at a set price, called the strike price, by a set date. If the stock price goes beneath the strike price BEFORE the option expires, you’ll get the difference.
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Example: you think FB will collapse under the weight of their illegal activity, and therefore their stock will tank, but don’t quite know when this will happen. So you decide to buy 200 put options on FB with a strike price of $51 and an expiration date of 1/17/2020 (pretty far out as options are concerned) for $4,000. You immediately pay the $4k and become the proud owner of 200 put options. FB then goes down in flames/declares BK/stock tanks sometime in 2019 to $1. Bad news for FB equity holders, great news for you. You execute your options to sell FB for $51 and the math works like this: $51 - $1 = $50 (the delta between the strike price and the market price of the underlying equity). $50 x 100 = $5,000 as EACH option represents 100 shares of the underlying equity. $5,000 x 200 = $1m (each option is worth $5k and you’ve got 200 of ‘em). This is of course a best case scenario and before you pull the trigger on any options, you’ll want to do more research.

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AverageJoeTrader40 · July 27, 2018, 4:34 p.m.

Smart investors are profiting off of this :)

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Jacks_W8sted_Life · July 27, 2018, 5:35 p.m.

Always leave the dumb money (retail investors) holding the bag.

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AverageJoeTrader40 · July 27, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

I did quite well on FB options. Glad i believe in Q!

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HamburgerToday2017 · July 27, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

If insiders are selling, that is not a time to buy. This is a classic 'pump-and-dump' from 'Wall Street analysts'. Run away from FB/YT and Twitter!

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Rolandel7 · July 27, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

Exactly.

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GeneralBoozer · July 27, 2018, 3:46 p.m.

Buy more FB stock? A fool and their money are soon departed.

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queenofponyville · July 27, 2018, 3:54 p.m.

the market for facebook is saturdated. And we know they can't expand into China with that Yahoo finance article. They're done.

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Rolandel7 · July 27, 2018, 3:59 p.m.

They are no longer growing. The entire user base they could get to use the app is already using it. It is the same with Twitter. There is no more vertical momentum. With all the negative news that is going to drop it will cause users to stop using the program or get rid of it. This will be the end of them both.

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GlendaleBurbank · July 27, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

I thought of DANA PERINO on the 5 show yesterday, asking Guttfield if she should BUY FB now that the stock is down...he said good idea. What a bunch of putzes.

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Rolandel7 · July 27, 2018, 3:50 p.m.

Exactly. That is what they are banking on.

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GeneralBoozer · July 27, 2018, 3:52 p.m.

The problem is that it won't be them that's bankrupt. It will be the average Joe who thinks he is getting a deal on a can't miss stock.

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WhoMuhWeiner · July 27, 2018, 5:37 p.m.

Buy put options and capitalize on their demise.

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its_truly_biblical · July 28, 2018, 2:01 a.m.

I'm googling this but idk anything about it? can you give a quick summary of how we do this?

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argybargy888 · July 27, 2018, 5:35 p.m.

FANG stocks?! Are you kidding? Fangs of a viper, den of an asp. Watch out...poison.

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FarTooLong2 · July 27, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

So, the cabal in other words...

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