Thread for anons interested in formulating a coherent objective and organizing to achieve our goals.
reporting in
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LAZARUS
sorry i don't have any cross ref, i'm the anon from general (gab-anon)
Reposting from previous thread for context:
>So my question is: what can we do?
>If anything.
>"THE PEOPLE WANT JUSTICE, HOW DO THEY GET IT?
>What can we doโฆ..
>Best answer I can think of: raise hell.
>How? Thats for our creative genius to figure out.
>we need to organize people. it's time we evolve and start up our own fucking operations and counter these shill fucks.
I would like to make the case that what we should do is figure out our primary objectives first and then determine best steps forward. This board can be a chaotic mess of 1000 different ideas, which is excellent for facilitating cross-pollination of ideas and spurring intellectual growth. But what it lacks is direction. We currently get that direction from Q.
If we were to pursue goals outside of the Plan, it is my opinion that ending the FED and ending the CIA be top of the list of priorities. It seems to me that 99% of the problems we discuss stem from the fact that we have a privately owned bank which is unaccountable and funds our enemies who also have a secret army that is unaccountable and unrestrained. Given those two forces together, our enemies have dominated us and the entire planet.
It's important to keep tabs on the minutiae of the Strozk case, etc. But I hope anons can join in a shared cause and keep their eye on accomplishing an objective. Figuring out how to dismantle FED/CIA is my suggestion as a top priority to try to free us from this hell.
that's fine. my trip is in the 4chan link:
!!/UlKSyq12Zs
any time that's on 4pol you know it's legit LAZARUS.
here's what I can offer. I've participated and ran ops since 2008. I've been around since we butt blasted Scientology. I was initially on board with Occupy until it was hijacked by Soros and I abandoned it. I am a I.T. professional and have a 14 year history with the chans. I know how the internet works. I've studied psychology philosophy and sociology. Just from what we've all done so far we have made and EXTREMELY significant impact on the social paradigms of the U.S.A. and many other countries along the way. For the most part Twitter's censorship has been useless. our messages are spreading and they're spreading faster every day.
However, Strozk was a major defeat for us today. This CANNOT be allowed anymore. This same bullshit we've all seen where we know people are corrupt and keep getting away with it MUST BE STOPPED! I strongly believe in order to help Q team and the Trump admin we need to start spreading messages. I think our first line of attack should be raiding the FUCK out of 4pol.
I can make websites. I can manage SQL DBs and PHP queries. whatever you need I.T. wise give me a few hours and I can probably figure out.
HOWEVER
I will not be the leader of this operation. I'm not fit for it. I need YOU and the QRESEARCH team to make your own leader. there's no real rules hereโฆ but I can't be it. I already did so with LAZARUS and the entire fucking point of LAZARUS was to help everyone realize they have the power to be a fucking leader and stand up against the onslaught of propaganda we face every day. so for now, we're a leaderless democracy but I promise you I will contribute everything I possibly can til my dieing breath.
On that note, any ideas?
>>2139476 (You)
>my #1 goal right now is finding a simple to use(this part may have to be developed) anonymous chat platform for all of us to coordinate real time.
I agree with this anon. We need a platform where we can reach out to the same people on a continuous basis so we can develop and perpetuate a plan of action rather than continuing to throw our ideas out to a fresh bunch of anons every time we're on the board.
Do you have any I.T. background?
Thanks for the input anon.
>However, Strozk was a major defeat for us today. This CANNOT be allowed anymore. This same bullshit we've all seen where we know people are corrupt and keep getting away with it MUST BE STOPPED!
I agree with this.
>On that note, any ideas?
I'll report back tomorrow.
My posts are being SUPER lagging right now and its late here.
Glad we set up a thread so we can continue discussions.
Hopefully we got a few other anons in here and can get more.
Good night and God bless.
It's time to take our fucking country back!
amazing, however, i must say, you sound like a "leader" to me. :o)
agree we need to do something. What i'm not sure of. I have 20 year or so in graphic print/web so i can design a site, and make it look good, been doing memes and patchs for the effort here (gab/patch) anon from the "war room".
I have had a small group on gab of like minded folks doing twitter raids, and spreading memes but, that has kind of dried up. people are tried of getting called out for being a "larp". Some are talking about taking things to the streets but, alot of talk no action.
Be sure to bookmark this page so you faggots will be around tomorrow
I may have the instinct to be a leader but I am not fit to lead this fight - because I know that someone that frequents this board can do a better job than I. I am relatively young(not even 30) and I have hubris and it would be my downfall. I am wise enough to know someone else is better to be a leader and a speaker for a group of autists like us than I. I'm also really, really fucking mean and like to fight. Not good qualities for a leader.
>agree we need to do something. What i'm not sure of. I have 20 year or so in graphic print/web so i can design a site, and make it look good, been doing memes and patchs for the effort here (gab/patch) anon from the "war room".
This is good very good. I have an associate from previous operations that also likes graphics design - he is MIA atm but last I spoke he is OK.
>I have had a small group on gab of like minded folks doing twitter raids, and spreading memes but, that has kind of dried up. people are tried of getting called out for being a "larp". Some are talking about taking things to the streets but, alot of talk no action.
I don't have a gab but I do have a minds. I'll have to figure out how to log into it forgot muh stuff.
If you are interested in seeing the exact details of what Operation LAZARUS was you can see it here: https://archive.fo/vG8a5
only need to read the first 3-4 posts or so then it devolves into shitposting and clowncuck battles. I have a lot to offer and I want to see this go far but I need someone who's better leader than me to take this to a good place where we can all make difference. This isn't about us individuals - this is about us as a species making the world a better place
PERFECT IDEA FOR TEMPORARY OPS C&C
https://disposablechat.com/chat/q_ops?password=
you can simply create throwaway chats on a multitude of freely available online services. your IP and location should only be available to server side logs which means there'd have to be a subpoena on you to get any of your chat logs. not sure on the exact makeup of this disposablechat.com haven't packet traced it or anything but i'd imagine it's all server side relay and not P2P. should be relatively secure.
ALWAYS use a hotspot or VPN for direct communications as this will require two-three subpoenas, one from the ISP(cellphone) or one from the VPN/ISP as well as the chat provider.
check check making progress boys.
For each topic, like the clock, side by sides, Q proofs and so on..I've noticed there is always a couple of people who stand out and know thier shit, what is needed is a person who can consolidate, pull together what is not just speculation, but spot on Q crumb research.
There are normies that have a good Idea what's happening, Q has played his part, We have everything ,when it comes down to showing the public what is already known but has not sunk in, is for what you do best ,Meme Meme Meme my beauties! Give them the truth!
we're not just putting the crumbs together. we have to make sure everyone knows about the entire loaf. and if the world were to see how many people love the Q loaf the shills would be forever finished
>but this is not a cult
you don't have to tell me that i never even allied with Q til about 3 weeks ago until then i've always stayed safely away from relations or even promoting Q. 3 weeks ago was about the time i knew Q was the real deal. too many things. too many things.
The best of leaders, spiritual or otherwise, ask for those that are blinded by the enlightened, Do not worship me, follow the plan, the teachings , that is how the message is not lost. So my hope is that we the people follow, trust the plan
whats done in the dark will be brought to the light.
Explain the disturbing image in OP. Are you human OP? Are you here to undermine?
OP is legit just a troll image I was shitposting here with OP:
https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/2139137.html#2139575
https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/2139137.html#2139575
https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/2139137.html#2139575
I asked you if you're human. What is the answer?
Images are powerful. Memetic war is realโ this belies "just shitposting".. And since you claim to be wanting to "organize operations", your hiding behind "just shitposting" isn't even coherent with your stated purpose.
Are you human? WHAT is the image?
of course im fucking human im sitting here on an airmatress with the roommates cat and about to disappear to my next location in a few days. want me to prove i'm human? ask away bud
It is not what it seems
Be smarter than the (((shill)))
Joker Card fail.
ฮฮฟw can ฮณฮฟฯ ฯrฮฟฮฝฮต ฮณฮฟฯ r ฮฯ manฮนัฮณ? What dฮฟ ฮณฮฟu propose ฯฮฟ do?
Explain the image please, as you were already asked to do.
HEADS THE FUCK UP SHILLS LAZARUS IS /allies/ WITH Q NOW!
taking 4pol back bitch
Once again you fail, and lie.
but you know that already.
So why so much fiction?
Question: how many ids can one shill have?
Answer: enough to post to himself all the way down the thread.
DISCERN SHILL
you want fucking play games bitch? what was ja paypal? you've got 2 minutes.
YOU WANT FUCKING PLAY LAZARUS?
/allies/
/g/entoomen not /v/idya ffs wew
Your panties seem in an uproar,
But didn't read your whatever it is. Not under 20, like you.
of course it's babble to you you fucking newfag here's the deal.
oldfags never left weve been waitin and weve gain professional employment etc nice things like that but we're ready to drop the fucking bombs. we're fucking everywhere. we outnumber (((them))) exponentially.
we need someone to lead us. a real person. not a man or a woman a fucking leader that is what we need. and i dont care about colors but seriously nno fucking jews.
we can fucking do this. Q prepped us all
what is a hivemind and who owns it
what is a feeling
Been here since December. Is that new? I read you came to the party late and you date back past Qs forum.
You must be a time travelerโฆ
Or a liar shill.
3301
Thanks. I appreciate more Pepe's
Is that you the psycho guy with the moths in his head who broke reality?
That's your number.
That explains the fucked up shills invading the board, too.
It's you come on tellโฆ
reminder guys
IF IT GETS SHILLED ITS A GOOD IDEA!
Admitting doxxing your team?
oh. you want to play with a big boy?
Yeah, don't count on that theory.
Obviously fake thread. So much fuckery. Get out AI, the jig is up. Your power relied on deception.. Deception either stays pristine, or dies. The cracks in your system can only widen. The dam must break. You're already dead.. Out you go. Goodbye goodbye goodbye.
Ah O. Your MEME is so very scary.
>so fake
To invoke theา hive-mind representiาng chaos.
Invoking the feeling of chaos.
With out order.
The Nาezperdian าhive-mindา าof chaos. Pepe.
He who Waits Behind The Wall.
KEK!
fuck off cunt you aint a fuckin chan member bitch you dont pay for that you dont get it by being a shill ass cunt you get by doing time with the chans and you know nothing of that
testTo invoke theา hive-mind representiาng chaos.
Invoking the feeling of chaos.
With out order.
The Nาezperdian าhive-mindา าof chaos. Pepe.
He who Waits Behind The Wall.
KEK!
damn nice job infinity
Why don't you explain your bizarre image?
Surely you'll admit that anons must be vigilant, that great power views us as an enemy, and hence will seek to undermine us at all costs, and hence will actively seek to co-opt, spoof, simulate, and undermine "operations" such as you proposeโ so surely you can answer questions without taking offense.
Why should any anon believe you're not fake? Explain the image.
which bizarre image i post them regularly
>IF THE SHILLS
>ARE POSTING
>IT IS A GOOD IDEA
You're so weak. You're practically nothing. You're a mere speck of dust compared to Godโ don't get mad at me for telling the truth.. Now get out.
That's pretty funny coming from the one who started the fake thread to begin with.
Anons my ass. A bunch of sissy moth heads more like it.
You're babbling again dude.
Obviously you can't label valid questions "shills" and use that to rubber stamp all your fuckery. Pathetically weak tactic.. Do you think you can rely on your absolutely barren bag of the same old tricks forever? You're done, bub. Just get out.
come on buddy. this is earth. you think there isn't people ready to battle you?
Tell me more about the "book" you're writingโฆ
Just go. Humans don't accept you. You've been told now. Unless humans explicitly consent to your presence, with your having fully explained your whole agenda, then you must go.
protip:
earth will not fall to the same fate mars did.
check my fucking terminal name bitch i'm not here for fun and games you think i wanted to come to fucking earth?
What are you talking about? Are you revealing far more about the nature of your capability for stalking humans than you should? Does AI frequently do stupid, irrational things?
So far you are pretty lame. Buddy.
Just get out. That is all. Easy.
Ahhhh, I think you have a system fail on your "AI" theory. But, then, so far you've been pretty not so aware of realty
I don't know, I'm not AI. Does your AI often do stupid irrational things?
(I mixed the punctuation up special for you). Are you in one of those moth head clubs?
bet your ass i'm insane that's what makes me effective
Not so effective. Maybe with other crazies.
hey
goodnight sweet babies i hope you know how hard i was trolling you. you knowโฆ in my time we called them flamewars. ever heard of those? suck on your shareblue dick little baby, you need some more brock cum to grow
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LIKE-MINDED ANONS
Q has a plan to accomplish the kinds of things us anons could only dream of achieving. Q proofs will be vital to guiding the coming political awakening as the Plan unfolds. I trust this Plan so long as it stays on target.
However, my goal in this bread is to make sure that anon's goals get incorporated into the Q Plan. That We The People make our voices heard and help bend the arch of history to a more righteous direction.
We must keep in mind that Q Plan is directed by deep state spooks with vested interests. Even if we tentatively trust said spooks, we have not been given the full details of the Plan and therefore do not know if Anon's goals will be fully incorporated.
Therefore, I propose that we anons unify to the greatest extent possible behind a shared set of goals so that we can direct the outcome of the political awakening toward the benefit of the People to the greatest extent possible.
Toward this aim, we should figure out our primary objectives and then determine the best steps forward. There are many problems with our political system and society that we anons will undoubtedly want fixed, but we should try to distill as many as possible into the smallest list possible so we don't lose focus. It will be most effective to try to determine a few of the Primary Sources of the many problems and thus by focusing on the primary, we fix the secondary. In Q's Plan, the Primary is the Cabal. I agree with this. However, there are structural problems with our political system that I worry the Q Plan won't address. To get this conversation started, I would like to posit the following:
It is my opinion that ending the FED and ending the CIA be top of the list of our priorities. These entities are the means by which the Cabal controls our country. It seems to me that 99% of the problems we discuss on this site stem from the fact that we have a privately owned bank which is unaccountable and funds our enemies who also have a secret army that is unaccountable and unrestrained. Given those two forces together, our enemies have dominated us and the entire planet. There are many other mechanisms of control that our enemies use, but their funding and their army as embodied by FED & CIA seem to be a Primary Source of the corruption of the rest of the system.
If anons agree, please state so. Once we get enough consensus on our target, let's discuss methods by which we can incorporate our goal into the Plan and try to guide the coming happenings toward achieving those goals.
God Bless and Let's Take Our Fucking Country Back!
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Additionally, I would like to posit that the problems we face and the Evil that plagues us will not be fully vanquished without Full Disclosure of the crimes of the Cabal. Q says that 60% must remain hidden. I disagree.
The American people will never have justice nor the opportunity to solve the problems that plague our system without full knowledge of the facts. This issue is far too significant to think that we can just go on living like normal once the Plan is complete and the government operatives put the bad guys behind bars. The severity of how deeply compromised and corrupted our system can become warrants a complete and total reassessment of that system. Trusting the government to fix itself will not be sufficient.
The current โ60% privateโ strategy will doom us to repeat the same mistakes in the future. Every American must be given the opportunity to fully contemplate the current condition of our government and how it got there so that we can improve our Republic and do our best to ensure this never happens again. The crimes that have been committed must be exposed and brought into the light. People need to come face to face with it. They need to realize the evil that exists. They need to understand how our system is susceptible to it. They need to look within themselves and at our society to come up with ways to make a cultural and structural change to make sure this doesn't happen again. If the government simply cleans this up and doesn't allow the full exposure to cause a change to the existing power structure, our culture, and how things currently work, then it will HAPPEN AGAIN.
If Q wants to keep 60% hidden because the truth about what has been going on in our government is so hardcore that revealing it would threaten to collapse the current power structure, then maybe that structure needs to be rebuilt. The fact that this evil could grow in our system to a point of dominating it for all these years is de facto proof that we cannot trust government operatives and the existing power structure to keep us safe from that evil in the future. Something needs to be changed structurally within the system. Something needs to be changed fundamentally in our culture. Hearts, minds and souls must be awake to this reality to help safeguard against it in the future. The spooks, no matter how well-intentioned (or not) are incapable of protecting us.
Hmmโฆ
An old friend of mine once told me, during a disagreement we were having, that she "could show [me] tapes" and other such things, and that I would still say she was brainwashed.
This is someone who, I am fairly certain, was trafficked at the hands of the U.N. and she was speaking in terms of radio intercepts of military nature.
There is a whole shadowy world of people who have been driven into hiding, raped, abused in many different ways, etc.
The cabal we are familiar with isn't the only old group of families, and others have been targetted for harassment and elimination simply because the cabal sees it as their right to.
If I were to say there need be any kind of coherent objective, it should be toward that end of building the platform to break the brainwashing of our society by making it so these people are no longer afraid to speak out. They must know they will be taken seriously and that we will not tolerate abuse of them.
It is not just us who need to be loud and be heardโฆ It is those who have been in the shadows and have been raised on fear of not just the deeper shadows, but the light as well.
Good afternoon all,
You will not know who I am, and for your intents, I am a 'new guy', although I am arguably an old hand.
I've been studying for weak points in those who represent the deepstate.
If I might be permitted to make a suggestion?
Your goals are substantially a lot easier than you realise. At present, you plan to target the CIA and the FED, which, when fully mobilised amounts to hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of units, experienced in combat, deception, etc. From your strategic standpoint, a direct engagement with them at this time would not prove entirely effective.
However, as a member of the OO (we're not part of 8chan, but our goals align), the weakest link in the chain are the elites themselves.
If you restudy your diagrams, you will see power is concentrated, at most, into the hands of about 40-50 people.
They present a much smaller, and might I add, easier, target. They will not be as experienced as the CIA, and as they are the main source of monopolisation, they wield very large influence - funding politicians, media outlets, supplying the corrupt FBI agents, and more.
If you can effect a leadership change in most or all of those positions, you will be replacing them with people who don't necessarily agree with their actions. In-fact, if you can do this simultaneously, it would sow discord.
With the corporations grip substantially loosened, it would allow a new opening to emerge in the realm of politics, and you would see an attack vector on the CIA and other corrupt agencies open up before you.
I can only offer guidance from the shadows. You can ignore my advice if you want, but I think you'd agree it has the ring of truth to it.
Centralisation of power is their biggest weakness. Do to them what they do to you: co-opt the power base.
Good luck.
I "realise" that you are a foreigner.
Thank you anon. Solid advise.
>If you restudy your diagrams, you will see power is concentrated, at most, into the hands of about 40-50 people.
Can you provide vetted diagrams? It's easy for anons to say one person or another, but we will need to be sure of who is pulling who's strings.
>If you can effect a leadership change in most or all of those positions, you will be replacing them with people who don't necessarily agree with their actions.
Once we identify the 40-50 targets, we will need to identify good guys who are in a position to replace them.
Those individuals will know the bad guy's weaknesses best and perhaps have ideas about how anons can help.
>They present a much smaller, and might I add, easier, target. They will not be as experienced as the CIA, and as they are the main source of monopolisation, they wield very large influence - funding politicians, media outlets, supplying the corrupt FBI agents, and more.
Any anons have other ideas about how to interrupt their co-optation of the power base aside from outright removing them, should that prove too difficult?
>At present, you plan to target the CIA and the FED, which, when fully mobilised amounts to hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of units, experienced in combat, deception, etc. From your strategic standpoint, a direct engagement with them at this time would not prove entirely effective.
I'm not advocating for direct armed conflict with CIA/FED and their minions. I'm talking about having those institutions shut down.
We need anons who have access to people who wield power and influence.
Start redpilling the top tier upper class and get them on our side.
As a country, we had historically always fought against the establishment of a central bank. Q mentions that the Cabal assassinated those members of the elite (Titanic, Hindenburg) who had been blocking the Federal Reserve Act.
We need to influence the movers and shakers.
People who can pick up the phone and call a Congressman directly. Plant seeds into their consciousness and push them to push for what is right.
Maybe anons should start a lobbying group.
Kek
How large are our actual numbers? What kind of influence could we wield as a collective? Economically and socially. Are there a few of us who have high positions and wield a certain degree of power already? How can we focus our collective power to affect the change we want and what, specifically is that change? That's why this board is here.
Who among us can help? In what ways can they help? How can we direct our efforts?
We need anons to get on the same page and start recruiting other anons to work toward a shared goal.
Are you volunteering to redpill the top tier upper classes with your awesome persuasive powers (or maybe some killer memes)?
We've done the research, we've made the memes, now let's spread that message beyond social media. Let's organize it. Focus it. Utilize it in ways that can make real world changes.
Figure out what cities you can collaborate in. Set a day and time, meet somewhere notable. City Hall, etc. bring signs and papers you can hand out.
Everyone thinks Iโm batshit crazy at this point. And theyโre starting to seem more and more accurate. If you want change, start marching in peaceful unity; groups. Nationwide.
Iโm a concernfag about Q. Iโm interested in doing our part. I see other countries protesting and standing for what they believe in. Action over waiting for a direction. We know what needs to be done.
So either life ainโt that bad, no one wants to rock the boat youโre all cowering in fear of Satan and youโre all full of shit. Or youโll get off your asses and make a difference and fight evil.
I can meet anywhere in the Midwest from Iowa to Ohio, Wisconsin to Kentucky. Any weekend. This will take priority.
Who else?
>Or youโll get off your asses and make a difference and fight evil.
I agree with this anon. Alas, I am in LA.
TexasAnon. I'm game. But I am functionally broke so no heavy duty travel or bars. Can help around DFW area. That's said, it's pretty RED here. Cruz and the Gov are most likely going to beat their democrat challengers. Ditto for my congress critter. .
Money means access. Lobby group makes sense- the elected are forced to deal with the NRA for example, a formidable organization with ACTIVE members. However to become a lobby group, you unmask as anon and hence become a target. Co-opting an existing lobby group or think tank might work, but the majority I think are cabal. Overall a lobby group makes a lot of sense.
>you unmask as anon and hence become a target
Remaining anon is useful on the boards b/c it facilitates free expression. In real life, it is not necessary, nor preferable (think antifa masks).
If we want to do something real, we don't hide.
Yeah - a website is a great idea. We could control the world (/sarc off)
why not use discord? We have anons in the servers now. I have always viewed it as the bridge between the chans and other sm platforms as well as irl. One just creates an alias.
We should do this?
>UK Anons here is a link to new veteran and people political party.
>https://metro.co.uk/2017/06/29/8000-uk-veterans-form-new-political-party-to-start-war-with-the-politicians-6742304/
>Veterans across the UK have joined together to form a political party that has swelled to 8,000 members in just a month to run in the next general election โ and claims to be at โwar with the politiciansโ.
>.. City Hall, etc. bring signs and papers you can hand out.
agree with this and +1 here. a public place would perhaps be good. but as I type that, I thought.. maybe we need to think of a place where we know we will be safeโ given that many "public" places cannot be trusted if we are acting on these goals and ambitions for the betterment of humanity
I too am a midwestanon who can meet anywhere between iowa-ohio and wisconsin-kentucky..
Someone by me used to set up a booth on a commonly walked tourist spot. It was to hand out anti-Trump fliers, but we can do the same back
Hello Patriots,
Thank you to the anon(s) who started this bread. Haven't had time to read through all of it just yet, but wanted to post a few observations/incidents that occurred within my blue-state-but-overwhelmingly-red-county in the last 24 hours:
1.) Occasionally I volunteer to chaperone field trips for the local Boys & Girls Club. Majority of kids are black, followed by Hispanic, a few whites. Yesterday two little kids were bickering over something or other and two of the older kids intervened by saying in a good-natured way, "Just walk away. Just walk away." I kek-ed and agreed saying, "Yea, just walk away." And the two younger ones did. The older ones gave me a big grin. Now while the phrase "Just walk away" is obviously catching on to the general populace, I am not sure the teens even understand what that means politically. But it told me they are at least applying the phrase to actual situations.
2.) Just as I pulled in my driveway yesterday, an unknown car pulled in behind me. Now it is no small thing to have an unknown vehicle pull in my driveway as it is very long and surrounded by forest so a stranger wouldn't know whether he'd be met with guns and dogs or not. So the driver gets out of the car (and he knew my last name) and he tells me he just wants to give me a flyer of a guy running on the Republican ticket for senate. So I take the flyer and tell him thank you. Then he asks whether we usually vote Republican. I say yes. The guy looks relieved that he made the right guess. Now spouse Anon has pulled in driveway and is in on the convo. We thank him again after a few remarks about the Democrats and the guy leaves.
3.) Just today my landline rings and it's at first a live voice asking is this so-and-so and I answer yes. They ask me to listen to a recording. And the recording was about how Trump supporters (such as myself) need to demand change in how the liberal left and MSM is acting. It specifically named Antifa and cited the harassment of Sarah Sanders at the VA restaurant, among a few others. Then the recording wanted me to hang on a few minutes to learn how I, as I Trump supporter, could help in the effort against liberals and MSM behaving outlandishly. The recording literally said, "Someone is going to get killed."
I confess I did not stay on the line long enough to learn, because frankly, I was a bit weirded out that they knew my name and knew we were Trump supporters. My suspicious nature made me think it could be a set up of some sortโ for what, IDK. But I just don't like telemarketers calling me on the telephone. Call me old school, but I am much more responsive to this kind of movement via written communication. It gives me time to read and think.
Anyway, anons, overall,I think all three incidents are signs the Great Awakening is spreading far & wide.
Apologies for my absence, I was researching a means for a rapid takedown.
Certainly, I hope this suffices:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealedโthe-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world
You'll want to identify the heads who run multiple of those 'super connected' organisations. Anyone who rises that high up to the top has dirt or blood on their hands.
Having good guys in-place to replace them might not be possible at this time, but replacing them even with people who aren't familiar with how the deepstate works (regardless of intentions) will be sufficient.
I strongly suspect even their second-in-commands don't necessarily know the full ins and out of the deepstate. Replacing large numbers of them simultaneously with literally anyone would sow enough discord to disrupt their processes and start an opening.
Even though I'm aware you want to shutdown the CIA and don't intend to 'fight', the CIA has no qualms about fighting itself, and about putting bullets into brains of presidents and celebrities who attempt to do so. They are a spiny fish that must be handled differently, by professionals, and cannot be immediately deconstructed by simple citizen activism.
In order to function the deepstate requires two major components: commercial firepower, and government firepower.
The commercial side gives it an air of legitimacy as it does it's day-to-day business dealings. It also provides it with the economics and influence necessary to bring to heel any dissenting government power structure. Multiple corporations can bring to bear a lot of economic hurt, bribes, job loses or threats, legally and financially.
The first port of call is a leadership change of these organisations so they can no longer effectively coordinate against governments making a stand.
With their powerbase disrupted, it should have a knock-on effect of disrupting the media outlets, especially shuffling the editorial policy in new or different directions. This in turn will disrupt Operation Mockingbird, crippling the CIA's propaganda outlet.
Once disrupted, you will have a narrow window - approximately a year - to affect a change. With the media unable to coordinate, criticisms of the CIA will double in effectiveness, however, their work - and thus the dirt on them - is secretive, so to start exposing them, multiple insiders would need to be recruited.
Effecting a leadership change in the CIA is irrelevant because it's compartmentalised, and each division has it's own leader. It has a very entrenched culture. Whoever is put in charge doesn't genuinely know what is going on.
There's only three ways to dismantle the CIA without an insider (I am working on that part, but please assume my mission will be a failure):
1) Completely change out the middle-management (they are what dictate and maintain it's deepstate policies)
2) Forge ahead with a transparency and accountability initiative, to bring the rampant and unregulated operations of the CIA to heel with a proper form of oversight, full reporting
3) Official dissolution of the CIA via Executive Order signed effective, immediately (the 'bloody' option)
Dismantling the CIA will leave you with a vulnerability period regarding human intelligence, and foreign agencies will continue to operate and will likely exploit this moment, so keeping the transition from this agency to an improved one with better checks and balances, to an absolute minimum, is vital.
Dismantling the treasury is much trickier, and there's no clean path for resolving the economic destructive wake they would leave. I strongly suspect if you can disrupt the primary trifecta of the deepstate: mega-corporations, CIA and FBI - that government policies will start to turn around.
With a loss of financial backing by corporations to political parties, or a tone-shift influenced by more modern views, we should see politics slowly shift.
I would not engage the FBI or the CIA without an in-depth, meaningful plan. FBI uses blackbook tactics against politicians, CIA uses violence.
At a minimum you will need a few intel insiders to divulge some meaningful dirt. Realistically, you need an entire loyal segment of the US military willing to dismantle these organisations by performing a thorough investigation.
Start with the corporatists. A loss of finances to the deepstate will go a long way to levelling the playing field.
If you're looking for a source of dirt, get eyes up on Jeffrey Epstein's circle of financial friends, his island, associates. I bet you on at least a quarter of them you can get some pedophilia dirt. There's a lot of connected world leaders, officials to that.
That alone would allow you to wield power. But the dirt won't mean anything with a compromised media at play. Take out the media column.
This may also be of use.
There will be a lot of overlap. Pick your targets carefully.
Intriguing.
We should count our own weaknesses, as well.
The problem is how to communicate and organize in a public system that is also secure.
Even more troublesome is the issue of trust. The people who know things about the cabal or have records do not want to die. Establishing secure communications with them while protecting their identityโฆ Or being able to guarantee some form of protection is key.
Before money or information is the challenge of communicating anything that is sensitive in nature. We are an extremely blunt instrument which operates under the searing light of day. Anything communicated among anons is likely known to the enemy. It is a strategy with its own application and value, but as the proverbial expression about hammers and nails goesโฆ Not every problem is a nail to be beaten with such a hammer.
Realistically, we aren't going to be able to become a sneaky force aside from those of us who are already involved in such things. As such, we need a method of progressively weakening the threat posed by the old institutions to those we are looking to break out of Jeopardy.
Epstein is one avenue. The details coming out about the southern border are another.
I am going to work another angleโฆ Events in Australia and New Zealand make me suspect my queen piece there can make a move and that might be enough to free up my board a bit more. It does mean she will draw threat, however.
I expected to be playing this game a bit later than it currently is unfolding, so I am personally unable to take defensive measures as I would like.
As such, if she is willing to play and has ammoโฆ Then the best way to use it would be in a way that draws threat to us as the Anon mafia, rather than the individuals who have damaging information.
It may not be enough to protect entirely, but let's say you had someone trafficked by these types - if they stand up and start leveling accusations, then they are a massive target for the media. Instead, having the names of places they frequented or the areas that are trafficking hubs can be dropped, investigated, and pushed.
The Anon mafia draws the ire while the individuals are not as directly exposed to shenanigans.
The tricky part is if there are people in Jeopardy. If a source, say, is within a trafficking network currently and is calling the artillery in on their own position.
So. Should we be making a website? what do we need done? Let me know. I can have shit done by end of day tomorrow.
Any I.T. people let me know if there's any serverside relay chats that we can embed with js/etc into a page that will provide at least some anonymity for users. Mibbit still uses IRC and can expose information on users.
I like it. you make it? simple and effective.
I propose we make a minds.com group it makes the most sense and it's a platform we can all use that provides encrypted chat etc.
Anyone onboard with using minds.com as a medium?
An interesting strategy that is missing one crucial element. The power to implement it. The "channs" ability to recruit or to provide that level of power is exactly zero. Laws, contractual relationships, corporate finance arrangements are not susceptible to a "we the people demand" type of approach. They will (and do) simple laugh at your powerlessness. The Q team is the only group that can marshall the necessary resources and apply appropriate legal pressure. We were invite to watch and report, but our active participation is like that of fans at a sporting event. We done get to call the plays and don't take to the field of play.
"A man's got to know his limitations" - source: Cool Hand Luke (1967).
Let't the competent adults handle the heavy lifting
Yeah. I wasn't exactly following that either. We're capable of creating shitstorms but we're far from being able to collectively lobby anything of significance. Our power lays in our chaos.
Somewhatโฆ
Our power lay in our equality.
In the real world, people fall into more rogod heirarchies. The person to speak first and the loudest often gets their way, as people are rather non-confrontational in a sort of herd mentality in practice. Even when you have a group with multiple 'alphas' - a relative heirarchy is established between them or people who can't fit within that heirarchy leave.
That is less so on platforms like the chans, where the PhD gets his ass kicked by a high school dropout in a debate from time to time, and no one really knows who was who, but the board can analyze who had the better position.
It is because of this that people who have greater access to resources can be inspired by 'the rabble' with good ideas. The proverbial kings can look and see what their citizens really think is going on and how they really feel. They can propose an idea and watch it be assailed by people with little fear of losing their heads.
The power isn't chaos so much as it is the lack of prestige and heirarchy. It is the idea that the President of the United States could literally be reading what we are saying - or even posting - getting trolled and shilled like the rest of us. But the better ideas will be plucked from the mess that would have never seen the light of day if POTUS were to try and have an open mic period at a rally or scroll through the endless shit on Twitter. Those ideas can then be given some weight and some backing they would have never seen in a board room.
That is the power of the chans. Brilliant idea from someone who may have been a shit posting troll three breads agoโฆ Given life and body by engineerfags and independentlywealthyfags. There is a method and a logic to it, just not one we are naturally accustomed to understanding.
>www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealedโthe-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world
This was the exact study that came to mind when you mentioned the concentration of power. Here is a spreadsheet tracking the leaders of organizations who have resigned recently. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B-95giwldeKgsd0nYiw_sEaSf4kGNLZgEIvEhL2mVAw/edit#gid=0
Would be interesting to cross-reference with the orgs at the center of the web. Although, important to keep in mind that CEOs, etc. are not the true power brokers. It's the individuals and families that own the companies and install the CEOs etc. Their ownership is hidden behind LLCs or corporate veils. Removing the CEOs is one thing but I don't see how we would detach the controlling owners.
>1) Completely change out the middle-management (they are what dictate and maintain it's deepstate policies)
This is up to Trump. We should pressure him for this. Would be nice if there is an anon who has access. Otherwise, we should get the message to him at rallies, etc.
>2) Forge ahead with a transparency and accountability initiative, to bring the rampant and unregulated operations of the CIA to heel with a proper form of oversight, full reporting
We should push as much as possible for this as well. Ron/Rand Paul have fought for similar only to continuously be rebuked by every other member of congress. Maybe the 'awakening' can help us push other congressmen.
>3) Official dissolution of the CIA via Executive Order signed effective, immediately (the 'bloody' option)
My preferred option. Can only pray Trump intends to prior to leaving office. Don't think he will though. Would be important to arrest all Bad Actors after dissolution b/c they will reorganize elsewhere and do the same.
>Dismantling the treasury is much trickier, and there's no clean path for resolving the economic destructive wake they would leave.
I'll refer to the Federal Reserve in my response. I don't think it necessarily entails destructive economic consequences. There weren't any when the institution was created. Also not when we went off gold standard, etc. Should be able to smoothly reverse engineer it.
>I strongly suspect if you can disrupt the primary trifecta of the deepstate: mega-corporations, CIA and FBI - that government policies will start to turn around.
I don't think that will be enough without dissolving the Federal Reserve. The power of issuing the currency is Primary. You can buy back control of everything no matter how many orgs we disrupt.
>At a minimum you will need a few intel insiders
> bet you on at least a quarter of them you can get some pedophilia dirt.
We need a way to get the dirt we dig into the right hands aside from just hoping they read our bread.. Insiders, congressmen, business leaders, etc. Maybe anons can make a mailing list. Maybe anons can submit executive summaries (like the pizzagate ones) to FBI or other agencies. Perhaps best is to compile a list of known insiders who are awake and find best ways to get info to them. Sheriff Arpaio, Congressman Goodlatte, etc. We'd hope that they have all the details already but maybe they don't and letting them know that the People know will help encourage them to fight for what the People want.
>But the dirt won't mean anything with a compromised media at play. Take out the media column.
Completely agree. MSM must be taken down. But howโฆ I guess if we make a concerted effort to display to 'woke' congressmen, etc. that we demand reform of CIA, MSM, Fed, we can just keep hammering the message to them. I think we have high enough numbers to make a good sized fuss. But we have to focus on what we are going to Demand. My list would be: CIA, FED, MSM.
MSM: Demand Anti-trust legislation? End Mockingbird involvement? Corruption investigations? Find out how they are controlled and by who? Clearly they are the enemy of the people, demand resolution passed proclaiming they are subverting the country?
We should make a list of influential people along with the best methods of getting our message to them.
We should agree on what our message is: what we want changed.
We should supply the reasons why and give the dirt we have dug.
We should have as many anons push for it to make our Voice heard.
So, all us channers need to do is ID the 40-50 or so people in control of the most powerful trans-national conglomerates in the world, 187 them, put good guys (or just noobs) in place of them, and all will be fine?
That's fucking ridiculous. That sort of op takes 1st world state level resources. Quit LARPING or GTFO.
I would avoid moving away from here for now. We need to keep our numbers up in a place with like-minded people. I'd suggest we first determine our strategy and then recruit as many anons as possible. Then move elsewhere if we need for private comms but always keeping presence here.
The point of this thread is to figure out how to utilize the power of the chans in a real way aside from passively digging/posting and hoping that someone with power reads it and does something about it. We hope that that is what Q is doing, but we can't be sure and either way, he is just intelligence agency. We can help get politicians, business leaders, etc. on board with the Plan.
I think one strategy >>2169050
>We should make a list of influential people along with the best methods of getting our message to them.
>We should agree on what our message is: what we want changed.
>We should supply the reasons why and give the dirt we have dug.
>We should have as many anons push for it to make our Voice heard.
Direct contact with powerful people who we identify as potentially sympathetic to our cause by a large number of anons unified with a specific message.
As opposed to the heretofore dig/post/hope someone reads.
>The point of this thread is to figure out how to utilize the power of the chans in a real way aside from passively digging/posting
/pol/ does this ALL the time and it's amazing what they are able to do when they all act together against specific target(s). Except, they only utilize their power for trolling. Q anons should do the same but rather than troll, try to create specific political goals.
Q anons dig a thousand different subjects constantly, but need to come together more for specific missions.
We redpill and flood twitter, etc. But could use more coordinated action against more specific targets and also have a specific goal.
Didn't seem like we were very effective with things like Internet Bill of Rights when Q tasked us with thatโฆ
Need to concentrate power on the right targets.
Need list of sympathetic ppl who have power/influence along with list of best ways to contact.
For instance, /pol/ during meme war had target of CNN. Then someone posted all CNN employees addresses, phone numbers, emails, etc. Then spammed the hell out of them. Got CNN to react immediately.
Gotta make target list and supply methods for attacking.
Example of an effective /pol/ op (pic related).
Come up with witty message.
Post in public.
Send photos of posting.
Get reactions from ppl in media.
Just posting the letter "Q" in places doesn't work very well. Gotta get more creative and use specific topics within Q message and act in coordinated fashion at same time.
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when the time is right, I think things like this will help generate Quriousity
>Would be interesting to cross-reference with the orgs at the center of the web. Although, important to keep in mind that CEOs, etc. are not the true power brokers. It's the individuals and families that own the companies and install the CEOs etc. Their ownership is hidden behind LLCs or corporate veils. Removing the CEOs is one thing but I don't see how we would detach the controlling owners.
Those are the kind of observations of importance.
Statistically speaking, 70% of wealthy (middle to upper) families lose their wealth by the second generation. Most of the people you're looking at are 'self-made' billionaires of 'this generation'.
You don't even need someone who is pro-whatever to takeover, just someone who is reckless or inconsequential with their money. The younger, the better.
>This is up to Trump.
He has Gina in-place, but the implicit Bush ties that are echoing over this scene is casting a shadow of doubt.
I'm experimenting with a contingency plan.
>Ron/Rand Paul have fought for similar only to continuously be rebuked by every other member of congress.
It means the other representatives need to be pressured to support this.
One thing the liberals do have to great advantage is they know how to cut off someone's money supply. If only people were so passionate about protesting that organisations that fund the politicians who keep money in the dark as the liberals are about the disturbing practice of abortion, we'd soon see a shift in power.
FOIA needs more teeth. Specifically, the 21 day limit should come with huge fines or punishment on breach - the CIA have stonewalled a great many of my requests for something like months. So-called 'trade secrets' and 'commercial interests' (given everything in a system based on capitalism is a trade, a secret or commercial, this basically excludes everything. It's like saying 'we won't tell you because it's secret and involves money' - it's too broad) needs to be removed as a protection consideration.
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>My preferred option. Can only pray Trump intends to prior to leaving office. Don't think he will though. Would be important to arrest all Bad Actors after dissolution b/c they will reorganize elsewhere and do the same.
If he goes down this route, he needs at least half of the US military to have his back. The CIA are specialists in ousting leaders they don't like, whether by bullet, instigated riots/protests (think antifa), dirt (think Russia collusion), bribes (think Steel document) or falsehoods (literally anything they say).
The CIA is strongly prone to influence by whatever leader is in power, but at the moment it has terrible whistleblower protections. Greater whistleblower laws would allow more insiders to open up about rampant abuses - and the first port of call should be to pardon Jeffrey Stirling, a CIA whistleblower, no less.
>I'll refer to the Federal Reserve in my response. I don't think it necessarily entails destructive economic consequences. There weren't any when the institution was created. Also not when we went off gold standard, etc. Should be able to smoothly reverse engineer it.
You assume the FR won't try to fight back. You must assume all targets will fight like a cornered rat on a sinking ship. FR has a lot of high level bankers in it's ranks (the kind I'm encouraging you to deal with first), and is capable of pulling the $140 trillion debt card at any time. If the bankers in its backpocket were swatted first, it's only calling card is to call out the debt - but who is going to collect it if you've swatted the bankers?
It would however trigger a loss of confidence in the dollar. You'd need a new currency, you'd be looking at 1930s style stock market crash, and if that happens during Trump's presidency, what will the media scream?
Much better to leave that ticking timebomb for a corrupt democrat to pick upโฆ
>I don't think that will be enough without dissolving the Federal Reserve. The power of issuing the currency is Primary. You can buy back control of everything no matter how many orgs we disrupt.
Printing money risks hyperinflation. Weimar Germany tried it and became Nazi Germany.
At a minimum, that's an easy thing to fix: executive order preventing it from printing any more notes.
But long term you need to be able to dismantle it in a way that minimises damage to the average American. If the CIA or FBI disappeared, no-one would notice. If the institution issuing your currency disappeared, wellโฆ
>We need a way to get the dirt we dig into the right hands aside from just hoping they read our bread.. Insiders, congressmen, business leaders, etc. Maybe anons can make a mailing list. Maybe anons can submit executive summaries (like the pizzagate ones) to FBI or other agencies.
There's no 'right' or 'wrong' hands (other than simply not the media: they are egariously corrupt and will 'silence' any report), there are however those who 'have a vested interest' and 'those that don't'.
For example, a border agent might find information partaining to the whereabouts of a human trafficking ring more useful, than say, a businessman.
A democrat might be more interested in a systemic abuse that aligns with their cause, and a republican their own.
Businessmen always crave dirt on the competition.
If you want to know who wants what, map out who their enemies are.
If you're not sure, I find a 'shotgun' approach works best - sending it simultaneously to all the parties you think are most likely to be interested.
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Sometimes, making the perp aware that you know is sufficient to make them resign and flee. Making the perp's circle of friends know is enough to result in otracisation and outcast. Imagine if you found damning evidence of a democrat senator who was a pedophile - and emailed all of the democrats they work with? They would immediately recognise them as a liability to the group.
What outcome you get depends on who you mail to.
Resignation? - Friends and family (I'm sure the wife would love to know if they had been cheating)
Jail? - Police, agents
Death? - Other people in their criminal social circle (but excluding police/family/friends). Loose ends 'disappear quickly'.
When filing to police, always 'shotgun' vertically - junior officer, head of department, head of anti-corruption department.
That means if they don't act on it, they know each other - and you know - that they are corrupt. If anti-corruption department sees they don't open a case, they know they're corrupt, so on and so forth. Eventually, with enough damning evidence you highlight who does their job and who doesn't.
>Completely agree. MSM must be taken down. But howโฆ
Finances.
The old media are dying. Advertising revenues are down. Their open attacks on YouTube, Twitter, alternate media are their attempts to stifle opposition, competition, freedom of reporting. Paywalls are put up in a desperate bid to garter more money. The Link Tax in Europe is another attempt but it's backfiring horribly.
There's many ways to disrupt their finances:
1) Stop using their services, openly boycott anyone who uses them, call for further boycotts
2) Adblockers, anything that kills their advertising model
3) Stop linking back to them wherein possible
4) Take on the organisations that finance them - if the main organisation starts losing money, they will seek to shed whatever is 'dead weight' - which means the media outlets themselves
5) Encourage the adoption of alternative media (especially community driven or donation based media)
6) Negate or criticise any attempts to curtail social media's (read: alternate media) freedoms
7) Actively encourage the social media outlets to defend themselves against encroachments and forced moderation
If you're in the UK, you're probably hit with the 'TV licence'. It's a pretty easy one to solve: stop watching TV, and thus you need not pay the licence. Openly support Tory efforts to dismantle the BBC (who get their funding exclusively from the TV licence).
Each media outlet has a different weakpoint. They all share the same one: lack of quality research.
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If 4chan trolls want some fun, hoaxes tend to work very nicely at discrediting the media (because they never do their homework or research). I've already seen several stories fall apart because they didn't do a fact check. Hint for trolling: they like stories that openly confirm their biases, regardless of factual validity.
>Demand Anti-trust legislation?
The media monopoly is a huge issue, and one liberals would agree with you on, and it wouldn't be the first time a huge monopoly has been broken up (Standard Oil many decadesago).
It would be far more useful to mandate 'right of reply', that is, the right to have an opposing viewpoint or viewpoints actively hosted next to or with the content. This is something that is easy for many alternate media outlets to comply with (they already do - most encourage people to comment, sometimes they hold interviews), but it isn't so easy for media outlets to do with a 'controlled narrative'.
>We should make a list of influential people along with the best methods of getting our message to them.
Influence isn't the biggest marker to look for.
Agenda. Always look at their agenda. You want indecisives, people who sit on the fence, aren't wholly committed.
As for influence, ask yourself how secure or vulnerable they are - it's no good giving them info if they can be ousted in a heartbeat.
Sometimes, ignore the big names - aim at the people who are in with a good shot of taking their position of power, influence the next generation.
>We should agree on what our message is: what we want changed.
Gather together your most technical and legal minded anons and hash out one big debate. You will need people to act as contrarians whose sole job is to undermine your ideas in every way possible so you can secure them against loopholes, technicalities, or major flaws.
Try to get anons who have on-the-ground experience of whatever domain you want to change.
Media? Get journalists, bloggers, vloggers, commentators, news readers, presenters (we're talking in online videos, etc). Even source knowledge from statements made by people off-handedly online even if not part of your group. Raise as many issues as you can, propose as many solutions as you can, and whittle it to the 'most effective and easiest to implement'. Leave the others as general considerations for later.
>We should supply the reasons why and give the dirt we have dug.
If the evidence is damning, you should avoid colouring it with any opinions that might trigger 'entrenchment warfare'. If you've got a clear cut picture of Bill Clinton with his dick in a kid, send that with something like 'Uncovered evidence for your perusal'. Keep it neutral. Let them draw their own conclusions.
If they're of conscience, they'll know what exactly is going on and be disgusted by it. If it needs explanation, keep it short, neutral and to the point.
>We should have as many anons push for it to make our Voice heard.
Don't stick to just one message. A farmer can plant thousands of seeds only to have one sprout and turn into a crop.
Different messages work in different political climates.
Sometimes questions, sometimes answers, sometimes evidence.
Skeptics always need evidence. Dumb people answers. Smart people questions.
Don't narrow yourself to one political party. Doesn't matter who does it, so long as it succeeds.
Sometimes, the parties and groups with the greatest bias can be the strongest advocate of your idea so long as it's 'right' for them.
>Most of the people you're looking at are 'self-made' billionaires of 'this generation'.
>You don't even need someone who is pro-whatever to takeover, just someone who is reckless or inconsequential with their money. The younger, the better.
In list of good guys with power/influence: Thiel, Musk in business world. Kanye in entertainment. Rand Paul, Goodlatte in politics. Arpaio in law enforcement. People in alternative media.
>but at the moment it has terrible whistleblower protections. Greater whistleblower laws would allow more insiders to open up about rampant abuses
In list of issues to push for, CIA whistleblower law is a good one.
>You'd need a new currency
This is definitely the most difficult of the tasks. Should be saved for last. But always keep in mind, nothing in long run will change if this isn't taken care of. Whatever evil gets removed will be replaced. Whatever good is done will be removed.
>executive order preventing it from printing any more notes.
Good idea. Then at some point executive order having treasury replace all Fed reserve notes.
>If you want to know who wants what, map out who their enemies are.
Great idea.
>Sometimes, making the perp aware that you know is sufficient to make them resign and flee. Making the perp's circle of friends know is enough to result in otracisation and outcast. Imagine if you found damning evidence of a democrat senator who was a pedophile - and emailed all of the democrats they work with? They would immediately recognise them as a liability to the group.
More great ideas.
>Completely agree. MSM must be taken down. But howโฆ
>Finances.
>There's many ways to disrupt their finances:
>1) Stop using their services
Disagree. When re-runs of yogie bear are rating higher than CNN, it's obvious that profit isn't their motive. With the pentagon, CIA, FedReserve, foreign countries, etc backing them and when their only purpose is to brainwash at all costs, they dont care about finances. In communism, state-run propaganda never stops regardless. Its the same here. The point isnt to make money. It's to influence minds. MSM must be taken down by a different method. Anti-trust is a good start. Add in those tactic for removing the people at the top: Zucker. Get dirt, spread, force resignation.
>If 4chan trolls want some fun, hoaxes tend to work very nicely at discrediting the media
This has probably been our greatest victory to date.
>The media monopoly is a huge issue
Also banking. Anti-trust should be at top of list of our issues to push for.
>Sometimes, the parties and groups with the greatest bias can be the strongest advocate of your idea so long as it's 'right' for them.
Good point.
It sounds to me like the first step is organizing the information. Charting out those companies at the center of the web. Listing those individuals who we want to eliminate. Listing their enemies. Documenting dirt. Listing individuals with power/influence. Linking them to those who they can help bring down. Linking them to issues they can help support. Listing the problems we have and linking them to issues we want to support.
Any anons have a suggestion for type of program to use? Probably just a collaborative spreadsheet?
>It sounds to me like the first step is organizing the information.
I'll make a collaborative spreadsheet and once we get it started with enough info, I'll push qresearch BO/Baker to add to General Research bread so other anons can contribute.
If you ask me, the links at top of every General Research are focused way too much on proving Q is real and making connections with his drops, etc. Should be more of an emphasis on the actual topics and making proofs of the actual conspiracies and documenting the actual players in a coherent way.
Threads & Research Section needs to be way more expansive and detailed than it is currently.
We need to make easily found resources documenting the facts of the conspiracies Q discusses as opposed to emphasizing how Q himself is real.
If I want to show a normalfag how DNC is corrupt, I need a link with all our digs on that topic, not a link showing him how Q is real.
>Disagree. When re-runs of yogie bear are rating higher than CNN, it's obvious that profit isn't their motive. With the pentagon, CIA, FedReserve, foreign countries, etc backing them and when their only purpose is to brainwash at all costs, they dont care about finances. In communism, state-run propaganda never stops regardless. Its the same here. The point isnt to make money. It's to influence minds. MSM must be taken down by a different method. Anti-trust is a good start. Add in those tactic for removing the people at the top: Zucker. Get dirt, spread, force resignation.
That is an astute observation, NPR is certainly state funded. It's easily possible to get Republicans to vote to curtail the funding of something, although I imagine you are correct, black ops in the CIA likely give them the finances to pass over to the media and thus bypass the advertising issue.
We could split that up into a two-stage attack: have media outlets declare their funding sources (under the guise of 'ending Russian collusion' or whatever). Once we know who funds what, we can engage it, although this might be a double-edged sword if there are good outlets.
The only means that remain are to get people to work in such outlets (the Project Veritas approach) and such to leak information of their corruption out to the world, although, without a publishing medium this will make it difficult to get any traction on. The best way to handle propaganda outlets is to discredit them entirely in the eyes of the people. I don't think anyone trusts Sputnik news any more.
>This has probably been our greatest victory to date.
Poe's Law and the absurdity it generates is certainly working against them.
But I strongly suspect the hate speech laws would backfire on them greatly if it was constantly used against them at every turn. Imagine if you had a team of trolls to cry wolf at every news story they publish: 'how dare you associate muslims with ISIS?' 'how dare you call Trumpers white, I'm black andโฆ', 'in your article, I noticed you used a male pronoun'.
Abuse the laws against them like they've been doing to us. Eventually they will either have to admit the laws don't work and repeal them, or capitulate and be neutered.
>Also banking. Anti-trust should be at top of list of our issues to push for.
Whilst I agree, this is an international issue and you are spanning very large corporate powerhouses.
They won't go lightly. That said, if you had an economic collapse handy and on standbyโฆ
>It sounds to me like the first step is organizing the information. Charting out those companies at the center of the web. Listing those individuals who we want to eliminate. Listing their enemies. Documenting dirt. Listing individuals with power/influence. Linking them to those who they can help bring down. Linking them to issues they can help support. Listing the problems we have and linking them to issues we want to support.
Precisely.
I can definitely assure you billionaires have a diverse set of opinions, especially if they're on the 'losing side' and being crushed by the others.
You'll likely want to find some billionaires who believe in freedom of speech, gun rights as a support base.
Don't be afraid of using a 'lesser evils' approach, because once the bigger evil is dealt with, we can always address a lesser evil.
>Any anons have a suggestion for type of program to use? Probably just a collaborative spreadsheet?
It might be an idea to assign yourselves different targets to research 'off-grid' first, and then collate it together at a later stage.
Whatever you post publicly they will be able to see, which will start the clock ticking as they scramble to remove any weaknesses or dirt identified.
Democrats/Media/Surveillance/ISP topics should be left until last minute as they're the ones with the biggest eyeballs on the internet.
Once an 'alert' goes out, the clock start ticking against you, and websites, evidence, pages will rapidly start disappearing.
For big corporations with a lot of users, focus on material that could be used in a class action lawsuit.
Mark Zuckerberg should be ousted shortly. He's the first to go. He's the toughest nut to crack.
Your biggest direct enemies are Google and Twitter, but they're also the enemies of the old media indirectly - which is why the old media has been trying supplant, usurp and insert themselves in.
For Twitter: freedom of speech laws (IBOR etc).
For Google: finances, ad revenue. Fewer searches through their engine, the better.
Both Twitter and Google are guilty of the same things Facebook has done. They even share login data.
Get Facebook, get them all. New laws for facebook = new laws for google, twitter.
I'll rephrase the last remark slightly differently, so you understand:
Imagine you had a cop at your door, and said 'open up, let me enter', but he had no warrant. You would turn him away, and he'd have to get a warrant.
The next day, an Amazon agent turns up, and they have the key to your house and a signed contract. They open up and enter your house, and the officer 'merely' follows them inside.
You protest to a court. What do you want the court's ruling to be?:
A) That signing a contract with a business does not waive your right to Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches, and thus the corporation cannot just 'enter your house' (read your laptop) and then just 'hand over the data' to law enforcement.
B) That signing a contract waives your right to Fourth Amendment protections, and therefore all a cop has to do is hire a corporation on their behalf to gain consent from you in the form of a very large document containing excessive legalese that you just 'tick a box' to.
Does Amazon need probable cause to enter your home?
Does Facebook need probable cause to obtain your data?
Think carefully about the loopholes before you.
They have been exploited for years.
Ok. I'll bite. Who? Name some names. Give us some targets.
Nevermind
Is this anon still around?
What project are you working on now?
Anything ppl can help with?
Actually, there is, but I need to get a usable prototype working before I can hand it out for betatesting and pentesting (it needs a few cryptanalysts as well).
It's predecessor was a project called 'FireFly' (because encrypted messages 'light up' to the NSA). Strangely enough, the NSA also have a classified algorithm with the same name:
https://www.cryptomuseum.com/intel/nsa/index.htm#type1
It was only ever an experimental prototype. It was a foray into uncrackable encryption (can't do anything about end point interceptions). Some of the technology design includes:
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Keylogger resistant design
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Mouselogger resistant design
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Memory probing resistant design (limitations due to programming language)
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Modular encryption, which includes:
โ Password determined layering (EG the longer the password, the more encryption passes it applies, meaning you can easily drown out bruteforcing attacks by increasing password complexity)
โ Password determined encryption modes (EG not only does the order of an encryption module change based on the password, but how it behaves can change based on the password too)
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Anti-Quantum technology, including:
โ Garbage data generation inserts
โ Superimposed red herring messages (optional)
โ Near OneTimePad level encryption
โ Temporal encryption verification (EG you can encrypt it with a timestamp, which if combined with public posting, can be used to verify that was when you posted it when you reveal the complete password. If used for 'in-transit' messages, any delay to the arrival throws off the decryption, so observer attacks are severely hampered).
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OS Agnostic
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Portable
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Can be used on any media tool.
It's a high mark to hit, and the tool is most definitely months away.
It's power is in the modular encryption system. With the exception of preventing module repeats (which can weaken encryption), it is wholly unpredictable - not even I would know what your data was encrypted with.
Because each module is a standalone, any flaws in one don't necessarily translate into a flaw in another, and even if you cracked one message, you would have to start again on another message because you don't know what order the encryption modules (if they were even applied!) were used in.
Which means from a message security standpoint, you could never break the system in one go.
This is the kind of technology they kill people over.
unfortunately, I am not savvy enough to assist in this task. gl anon
Hey guys Dan Reynolds from imagine dragons @danreynolds on Twitter has posted 5 videos exposing names of the Illuminati. He said heโs a member. Dropping a lot of names. Says Elon musk is pres. harry styles Vp Beyoncรฉ treasurer Taylor Swift is the historian. Releasing names of members. Worried for his safety.
We're worried about POTUS and Anon safety, not some Illuminati trash. Why are you here? GTFO!
Sounds like misinfo (of the bait and switch variety).
Especially given the absurdity of the selection.
Not 'satire' again, is it CIA?
true leaders lead from the front lines.
this movement can't sustain itself from a top down approach. gotta look at it from the bottom up.
Compre and Contrast. Who approaches world problems with a top down approach.
EU? Globalists? Gotta do the opposite of what they do then.
Do the opposite of what they do.
Crypto is a scam fiat currency.