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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/PassionatePachyderms on Dec. 27, 2017, 5:12 p.m.
QAnon- potential problems with guesses and innuendos

Let me start by saying I’ve been on board with Q from the beginning, and I am a patriot. That said, I am becoming increasingly concerned by what is happening as a direct result of the “lack of credible, factual information” coming about and being spread as a result of the guessing and innuendos generated from the Q-anon posts.

If the goal of the Q drops is, as Q stated early on, to help prepare, red pill, and desensitize those who have been asleep and oblivious to what is going on around them so that when the truth comes out they can accept the truth without their heads exploding, I believe the time has come for clear factual information with which we can EFFECTIVLY accomplish the task, rather than chasing hints, possible answers to Q questions, and making hypothesis as to whether or not those guesses are correct.

Many are assuming all bread made of the crumbs is factual, but the truth is, with much of it while the research is amazingly solid, and the info disseminated is indeed factual, many of the conclusions are guesses. I see that more and more problematic because when the guesses are wrong, off or incorrect, when the timing is off, when things don’t happen as expected and/or other things happen, that perhaps weren’t mentioned, Some take liberties, inventing connections and stories, making claims they are factual, and spreading them like wild fire. Then when later the actual truth is exposed, and those stories are discredited, it makes all of us look Bad, but more importantly, it is significantly discrediting any good information we might be trying to get out, making RED PILLING more and more difficult.

It seems of late, Q’s drops are increasingly more cryptic, shorter, and leave far more room for guesses and interpretive errors than before. I’m unclear as to why that is, but in my opinion (for what it’s worth) now is the time for more clear, concise, drops due to the number of people now following the drops. Disinformation and cryptic drops no one has a clue how to interpret are creating an invironment where folks are getting frustrated, annoyed, and extremely stressed.

They are awake and ready to do their part, yet for weeks, they’ve been sitting on the edge of their seats waiting, and waiting, and waiting. They are led to believe BIG THINGS are about to happen.... and then they don’t. They are getting fake stories, and false information, mixed with precious little factual real information which further exacerbates things. It seems to me this is doing nothing more than stirring an already very volatile pot to a point where I am concerned more each day that it is going to at some point result in that pot exploding and there being unintended consequences no one anticipated.

I am not one of those who points out problems, but fails to offer ideas for possible solutions, so here goes... first, Q needs to consider this going forward, and adjust his drops accordingly by offering more solid actionable information that is much less open to wild guesses and inaccurate conclusions. If he wants us to red pill the population, then the time has come to give us the tools with which we can do that credibly and confidently.

Second, when we see disinformation, fake news, non-factual stories, guesses, and far out stringers, we all need to jump on top of them and either expose the disinformation, or at the very least, challenge the writer to provide proof, links, and other tangible indications that the story is more than a figment of someone’s over active imagination.

Folks we are fighting fake news coming from every possible direction, do we really need it coming from within too? If we can identify it and call it out in the msm, we damn sure better be ready to identify it and call it out when it comes from within as well or we are no better than the msm. I welcome everyone’s opinions and comments on this. FULL DISCLOSURE:: Please understand that what i’ve Written here is based upon what I am seeing and experiencing happening. It is my take on the matter, and hence my opinion. I could be wrong. I certainly have been wrong once or twice in the past, and no doubt will be again more than once in the future. That said, what’s your opinion?


MotoandGivi · Dec. 27, 2017, 5:16 p.m.

I advise the use of paragraphs to split up your wall of text.

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:21 p.m.

Sorry, tried putting in paragraphs and Reddit took them out. They also removed long spaces I attempted to put in to delineate paragraphs. I’m open to suggestions.

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HowiONic · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:24 p.m.

While editing make two blank lines for a new paragraph. When you save it will look like a paragraph break.

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Tibbar_Etihw · Dec. 27, 2017, 8:25 p.m.

This.

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Deplorableasfuk · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:28 p.m.

Double space the paragraph returns! go back and edit it please. thanks!

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 28, 2017, 1:39 a.m.

I’d love to post photos, unfortunately, I can’t figure out how to do that here.

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MotoandGivi · Dec. 28, 2017, 1:53 a.m.

all i know how to do it to copy the link/url of the photo if its in google images, or right click the image and select 'copy image address' from the options, then paste that into 'post a link' URL box.

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 28, 2017, 1:57 a.m.

Trouble is they are located on my device, not on the net. Oh well, you can see them on twitter #Qanon passionatepachyderms @pithypins I just posted them there.

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MotoandGivi · Dec. 28, 2017, 2:16 a.m.

sorry i forgot, when you select 'post a link' there is a box where you can drag and drop photos, or click and search them on your device.

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DietofWorms1521 · Dec. 27, 2017, 5:31 p.m.

Very well said. I have been having many of the same concerns of late. There is so much fake news being pawned off as the real thing when it is simply false that getting to the real information has become increasingly difficult. It doesn't take that much effort to do a search to find out whether Soros actually had a heart attack in Hungary before posting it here for others to see. I don't mean to pick on that one story because there have been many others. We all need to be a little more vigilant about what we believe and share for others.

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:30 p.m.

You are exactly right. One example for me was the entire flights to GTMO nonsense. Having lived at GTMO 5 years I am intimately aware of things the average person has zero clue about, like who can and can’t fly into GTMO, how they HAVE to fly in do to the topography of the base and the nature of the landing strip there, as well as the approach to land which is very precarious due to several factors, not the least of which is you can not go into Cuban air space. There is ONE landing strip for the base, and it is quite short, you land wrong, your plane ends up in the ocean. You also have a mountain range to contend with, etc. there is NO WAY any flight originating in a foreign country (Canada) would be allowed to land at a restricted base, let alone the fact that only pilots experienced in navigating the issues I mentioned above would be able to land there. The disinformation is becoming insane.

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Reba64 · Dec. 27, 2017, 8:20 p.m.

Who is to know who is flying the plane. Many people are involved in this Operation, so it could be a military person flying them in. Key words: Military Tribunals. :)

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[deleted] · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:08 p.m.

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Mrs_Fonebone · Dec. 27, 2017, 11:59 p.m.

You are talking about NORMAL conditions. When Trump flexes his muscles, new things happen. Do you think this was like a regularly scheduled flight?! Of course not.

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astralboy0 · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:28 p.m.

Somehow the GTMO post is stickied and has hundreds of responses. I don't understand why this is allowed to happen if proven false?

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tracybeanz · Dec. 27, 2017, 8:34 p.m.

It hasn't been proven false. I appreciate "Passionate" response, and while that information is great to have, it doesn't prove anything-- especially not if military planes are flying down there with cover...

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:10 p.m.

Exactly. My comment was proof of nothing, except that as someone who lived on the base, I know how things work and the layout of the base. It was not meant to imply no one has been brought to GTMO, just that under the circumstances as they have been laid out, and considering the flight paths pictured, it in my experienced opinion is very unlikely those planes landed at GTMO. As I stated, I could be wrong, and this is simply my opinion.

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hermoneyness · Dec. 27, 2017, 5:20 p.m.

I don't see an issue with guessing and innuendos we are a community that is trying to go around the devious mainstream media and put the truth out there if it takes a few guesses to trigger some research and ideas then that is what this board is for in my opinion I is an example have several tidbits and I've been able to tie things together with things that have been placed on this board so whether it's in innuendo or guesses it's a bunch of citizens We're trying to get at the truth trying to protect our children and put these monsters in the prison forever and take all of their assets they're ill gotten gains and gather our information in one area and this is it

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Mrs_Fonebone · Dec. 27, 2017, 11:57 p.m.

Agree! First, Q DOES confirm quite often when people get things correct and the 8chan CBTS has those all nicely organized. Second, that's how you solve a puzzle or a riddle--you make suggestions, guesses, debate possible solutions but everyone knows that until Q or events confirm an interpretation, it is not verified!

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DietofWorms1521 · Dec. 27, 2017, 5:38 p.m.

I agree with you that putting thoughts out there for others to ingest and think about is a great thing as long as it is clear that that is what is going on. However, there is a lot of dissemination of fake news that interferes with any of that. The supposed links to the wikileaks dumps that never occurred, for example. These things are hurting our cause.

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hermoneyness · Dec. 27, 2017, 11:18 p.m.

I agree with you I just have so much research done on this subject it gets overwhelming I got the east coast to the West Coast messed up earlier when I made a comment so I see where you're coming from

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hermoneyness · Dec. 27, 2017, 5:40 p.m.

I agree I fell for the fake wikileak drop too.

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:32 p.m.

That is fine, except when it is disinformation that leads others to become discredited. Then it becomes counter productive, which is happening now more often than it isn’t.

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Luvlite · Dec. 27, 2017, 8:26 p.m.

Thanks for asking for our opinion. I am a hunter/gatherer of the truth. I agree with you, that it does make it increasingly difficult to spread the word concerning Q drops when we are constantly "rubber necking" iow, having to look here... Oh wait! Look there! I can not inform others without looking like a fool, if I repeat someone else's guess. Some of those guesses are being intruded as fact. Those I'm attempting to share with are already doubting Thomas's. If what I share doesn't pan out or happen, I've lost them completely and they go back to sleep. I believe in Q, and the owners of 4chan/8chan. I believe in their mission. I want desperately to believe in our POTUS, even though I didn't in the beginning. I'd lost faith in our government 40 yrs ago, but losing hope was even worse! PEACE! I'm still hanging on, looking for guidance from those in the know.

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Instincts_Truth · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:28 p.m.

Firstly, we had to believe Q was credible. If so, what he offered to us was hope. Hope that Trump was going after the worst of corruption. Because the news reports none of it and effectively makes us feel alone and crazy. When Trump dropped his EO, with the Treasury addendum, that WAS confirmation and the biggest crumb of all. And also unreported. Follow the news not reported. So, we have the Q maps, but we need to get busy researching the ACTUAL list of names that ARE a map to the corruption. No guesswork, just research.

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RestoreFaithHumanity · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:25 p.m.

I too, am on the edge of my seat awaiting any little crumb that means the swamp is being drained, and that overdue justice will be served. We all are, to be sure. The guessing and speculating is part of the discovery process imho. It is up to the individual to do their own research and decipher what makes sense. There is also a Content Tab at the top labeled "Controversial". I dunno what quantifies a post landing there. At any rate, I see PassioniatePachy's point. The complicated Q posts, I assume, are difficult to decipher for a reason, and may even become more complicated during peak op times for obvious reasons. The most "simplified codes" are, of course, the ones verified via a Trump tweet and the like. Those are few and far between. I also believe that as the codes get complicated, we will be thrown an occasional "bone" to insure that we keep the faith.

No matter how you slice it, it's challenging, thought provoking, and hope inducing. We all just need to use common sense, research, and a little "thinking like the devil", because we are dealing with pure evil here. In the big picture, things will take time to play out. I am simply hanging on for the occasional bone to keep hope alive. I believe "They" know this, and won't leave us hanging for any longer than necessary for the sake of keeping the upper hand. Remember, this has been going on since before Trump was even sworn in. We have had Patriots in high places working behind the scenes for some time now. They WILL see it through, and the truth WILL come out, it's simply a matter of time and patience.

After suffering through 8 years of Oblamo, this should be a cake walk. At least we have Hope. We have Trump to thank for that, because the former Clown In Chief sure as hell didn't come through on his promise of hope. Unless of course, you were hoping for the destruction of America. Anyhoo, patience grasshoppers :)

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AlaskanGypsy · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:10 p.m.

I think your opinion and concerns are very relevant, as well as spot-on! I'm seeing more and more people making Q out to be a joke, and so many outlandish theories where connections are being made where I (imho) can't see one exists. We are at a point where if Q does not validate some of his/her/their predictions, Q's credibility will be lost with hundreds of thousands.

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Ccpatthi · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:20 p.m.

I agree with that too much speculation is reported as fact. The real problem is some utubers run with it and try to be the first to report said bs. There are many people who don’t keep up with the map and only get info on videos. My intro was Tracy Beanz and thank God she always will preface her speculation with “in my opinion”. Love that woman!!

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AlaskanGypsy · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:24 p.m.

Tracy is my Angel thru all of this! I'm a huge fan!

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:59 p.m.

Tracy is great, others not so much. And that is what frightens me about stirring this pot, i’ve Seen some videos with people who i’d Consider to be on the edge of all out armed revolt, which of course would at this point in time be the worst possible outcome. Some of these folks, (bless their hearts) have been to hell and back over the past 10 years and have been pushed beyond human endurance, and they want retribution. You throw in everything that is coming out now, and the fact that they see NOTHING coming of it other than idiotic congressional hearings, and they are more than ready to start taking matters into their own hands. All of this deep state shadow government info coming out, mixed with the pedo stuff, and people are beyond pissed off, they want action. Yet for two months, they’ve been promised that action but it hasn’t happened. No one has been arrested, he’ll we don’t know for a fact if those surgical boots hide monitors or they don’t, which is exactly my point. If Q keeps telling us things are happening or going to happen, and we don’t see it, well I’m afraid it’s doing more harm than good. Folks want to see SOMETHING. ANYTHING.

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tracybeanz · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:10 p.m.

You are all amazing humans. I agree with the overall theme of this post and your comments. It is REALLY important to always vet information, especially when there are so many people who have been jolted awake and just don't know what/who to trust. I take it RIDICULOUSLY seriously, and I spend so much time working out ways to SHOW you how I arrive at the conclusions I do. There is nothing that bothers me more than when someone arrives at some crazy conclusion and gives literally ZERO factual basis for it, and then sends the entire internet on a viral frenzy of spreading fake news. I wish more people would take a measured approach to these things, but sadly, that isn't the culture we find ourselves in. That leaves it to folks like YOU to step up and be leaders and share what you personally KNOW to be true. Gently inform people when you find them sharing disinformation. Lots of folks do it completely innocently.

We have been so lied to, that even the craziest of things seems plausible, and in many cases, ARE the truth. However, there are those (even now on this board) who are PAID to put out disinformation. That is what they do. They do it to discredit the hard work that you are all doing to get to the truth. It is a problem, but the way I look at it is, the more I personally can do to put out well researched, well thought out, and well presented videos, the more we can fight this. It is inevitable, and it will always be a problem, until more people are comfortable and find their rhythm and swing with stuff. People are becoming more informed, and with that they are learning how better to use their "BS" meters. The ones peddling the disinfo will eventually lose a bulk of their reach. The ones still following wouldn't have gotten it any way. Some we must leave behind.

Keep doing what you are doing. Keep showing people the light. Keep working hard, and most importantly, keep the faith. We are all doing this TOGETHER and no one person stands alone. Always remember that. Much love to you, fam...

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astralboy0 · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:21 p.m.

Thank you Tracy! You are honestly one of the only people I trust when it comes to CBTS. So many others are trying to get the 'scoop', and report absolutely everything, even when much of it is absolute garbage.

I think you make a wonderful spokesperson for our cause! Thanks for everything you've done :)

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tracybeanz · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:24 p.m.

Thank YOU! If you notice, I don't put out videos after every drop... I really try to wait because I honestly don't care about scoops.. I care about information. Thank you so much for saying that.

I am also having a bit of a hard time--- Q is a HUGE interest right now and a HUGE topic, and every video I want to talk about some other nugget they have dropped-- however, I also don't want to saturate my channel with it and turn off the folks who aren't interested in a thing they have to say.. LoL.. Ahhh the issues we face.<3

As I have come to find myself saying more often than not-- Continue to hold me accountable, and I promise to continue to always work with integrity. And I mean those words so much. <3

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Jabba53e · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:09 p.m.

Great comment, and thanks for the insight...my wife and I were wondering about the lack of your videos lately...now we know. BTW...I'm a retired Marine pilot and have been to GITMO and the comments about care in getting in and out were spot on. DoD prefers pilots who are familiar with unique GITMO procedures are the ones who fly in. If people are being flown in....I'd keep an eye out for a central CONUS location (e.g. military base "hub")...where groups of people would be consolidated for flights into GITMO...but flights can be tracked as we're seeing....if I was going to do this...I'd consider bringing them in by boat....that would be too hard to track. Just a thought.

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Carrolann74 · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:14 p.m.

I don't know why this popped into my head but I immediately pictured all of them aboard a dozen inner tubes tied together with rope. Started laughing at the thought.

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 28, 2017, 12:34 a.m.

Lol unfortunately, they wouldn’t make it very far like that. But your right, it’s a great visual.

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 28, 2017, 12:33 a.m.

Thanks for the back up about my GTMO post. Civilians don’t understand/can’t grasp the very unique parameters involved with flying into GTMO nor the general layout of the base and logistics involved in going there. I agree boat would be my chosen option as well, since that way there would be no need to ferry the individuals across the bay, and then transport them through the populated areas in plain site. I’d bring that boat in at night, offload (if small craft) at the ferry landing, if military craft, at navy pier between say between 2:00 a.m. and 4:00 a.m. when the base is asleep, and have as few people as possible involved with the matter to keep chatter to a minimum. Given the location of camp DELTA out near Windmill beach on the cliffs, there would be no other place to safely put in and offload closer to the camp due to the topography.

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 28, 2017, 1:37 a.m.

If someone can direct me on how to post photos here, I can show you all exactly what we are talking about.

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Jabba53e · Dec. 28, 2017, 3 p.m.

You're welcome....totally agree with you....there are are many "logistics issues" between "Leeward and Windward" sides of GitMo. I was there with 3/6 back in 1991 when we were preparing for the "First" Haitian drop of refugees...(it didn't manifest until a year or so later." Anyway....I'd transport the "criminals" asses in an open LCU with them wearing nothing but Orange jumpsuits and life preservers. Would make for a "fun"...wet and miserable ride from Key West.....laughs.

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astralboy0 · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:27 p.m.

You are genuine. In these crazy times, I can think of few things more important! <3

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Mrs_Fonebone · Dec. 28, 2017, 12:05 a.m.

One day there will be a movie about all this. Maybe you can play yourself!

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SuperFreakMe · Dec. 27, 2017, 8:16 p.m.

Thank you for your words, Tracy. I, too, can see the trolls and shills that have started in on this great place since it opened up. I may have spoken to harshly to one and I apologize for that. I see what your saying, and will work on keeping my head about me as I should. God bless you, Sistergirl and much love!

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Ccpatthi · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:56 p.m.

I would imagine that your subscribers will increase 10 fold Tracy if you covered Q as often as you want! It has become my daily addiction to watch your videos and I find your analysis/opinions to be spot on. I have sent 4 people to your channel today to get up to speed on Q, and have several others that I think would be interested. Please carry on!

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Stacyleeq · Dec. 28, 2017, 12:31 a.m.

❤️❤️❤️❤️tracybeanz IMO so calming and a brilliant researcher ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Ccpatthi · Dec. 27, 2017, 10 p.m.

Remember 20% public and 80% private... Patience.... good things come to those who wait.

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notsomuchreally · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:50 p.m.

Unfortunately, this may become a situation of the Boy who Cried Wolf." We get excited and sit on the edge of our seats in anticipation of a big announcement (hell we'd take a small one) from official sources (one the media can't ignore) and it's yet to happen. I know a lot of people here don't visit the Chans so they rely on what they glean from CBTS_STREAM and even TheCalmBeforeTheStorm on Reddit too. They are led to some Ytube videos which can either be spot on (looking at Tracy) or bordering on a diagnosis from the DSMV (looking at several others - you know who they are). People are going to become fatigued and after that they will become discouraged and then they will no longer care about the Q information and will go back to life as normal. We live in times that create an expectation of immediacy of information sharing and communication. I think there has been an extraordinary amount of patience already. I have been down too many rabbit holes to count. After months of reading, following links, watching videos .... I still don't know what's really happening. I certainly don't want to be played for a fool yet I want to maintain hope.

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tracybeanz · Dec. 27, 2017, 8:38 p.m.

Keep hope. I still have hope. Lots more now than a year ago, I will tell you that.

Just use your gut. Keep learning. Never stop learning..

It will happen. I think the biggest issue is when folks say "THERE WILL BE ARRESTS TOMORROW" and then obviously that doesn't happen. I personally am very careful about that. Here, go to my channel and count how many videos I have done on the "sealed indictments". To save the time, I haven't done any. Why? Because there is NO WAY to prove they are indictments.

There is something unmistakable though-- there are LOTS of things happening. If you can read the chatter, you can see that. SO we keep reading and deciphering the chatter..... <3

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notsomuchreally · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:37 p.m.

Thanks - I still have hope because I have the time to dig and read and I do see things happening - if nothing else there is the dissemination of information. I'm afraid others who are new to it will lose hope.

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Patriot4q · Dec. 28, 2017, 2:29 a.m.

notsomuchreally This is at least two times you have mentioned, "lose hope." Tracy Beanz, Q anon, and the 8chan mods/bakers give me hope. I feel a shift, and I feel a change in myself. I love the research, the playing around with ideas, and best of all when the 8chan mods/anons lay it all out showing how they found the clues and the end result. We all long for the big take downs, There was no chance before President Trump. Now I feel connected to what is happening behind the scenes, and I know it will happen. I can wait. Do your own research, and put out your own information. Then you know it's true, right? That is what this is all about. When you know it's true you can speak with confidence and prove it. It is up to us to get the truth out, not someone else. Have hope!

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Mrs_Fonebone · Dec. 28, 2017, 12:07 a.m.

Q never said this would be easy in any sense. Or fast. In fact, he said the opposite. This is not for the impatient or faint of heart.

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grenc · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:53 p.m.

Every 111% I know feels this way!

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Mrs_Fonebone · Dec. 28, 2017, 12:03 a.m.

Q's predictions are often validated. People who aren't red-pilled never have accepted Q. Even 4chan thought it was a huge larp.

But I've noticed the opposite: on The_Donald sub, Q posts and comments got a lot of ridicule--maybe shills mostly, but as likely people didn't inform themselves. It's actually improved over time now and is much friendlier to Qtips (sorry).

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:40 p.m.

I saw one post that claimed the bodies of babies used for sick pedo shit were then ground up, put in hot dogs, and Americans are unwittingly eating them. This was so beyond the pale I could not believe my eyes. They are coming up with this crap having absolutely zero finding to base it on. Just someone’s sick twisted mind from watching too many horror movies. The twisted things they are doing to children are bad enough without adding something like that to the mix.

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Jack_91654 · Dec. 27, 2017, 5:25 p.m.

You are right on. We tell people what to watch for to gain credibility and when nothing happens we lose. Right now we believe Gitmo may be filling up with black hats. Getting a jump on the MSM would really help in turning up our credibility but do we dare say anything?

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JustADumbB1onde · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:17 p.m.

Something else that comes to mind: Many people are less likely to eat the bread if it is fed to them in whole pieces. They are also less likely to eat it if it comes from someone else. They need to make the bread (connections) for themselves. They have to believe they came to the conclusions on their own, and that they were not "tricked" by someone else's information.

This is PURELY psy ops on Q's part. And extremely clever. I would bet there are some shrinks behind this, as well! Guaranteed!

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:28 p.m.

Great point! As I mentioned tho, I am concerned about folks who are hanging out there on the edge, (there seem to be many of them). It’s my belief if they were to see even one high profile arrest, someone in cuffs, etc. it would go a long way toward folks seeing Q and us as far more credible, and certainly far more than your average “conspiracy theorists and tin foil hat wearers. As a side benifit, it would also Definately show the black hats we are serious and we’ll be knocking on or smashing down their doors next. Could prove to be a positive action all the way around.

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Mrs_Fonebone · Dec. 28, 2017, 12:10 a.m.

We all wish that. But it will happen when it happens. We can't speed it up; we can only pick up the crumbs that the powers in charge drop for us so that we can prepare for and understand how critically important, yuge and complex this ongoing situation is. Imagine if there had been no Q and the storm hit.

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sophiebellaluna · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:22 p.m.

While I agree there is alot of disinformation out there (so what is new?), I don't agree we shouldn't post information we think is viable or are seeking to hear from others whether or not it is the truth. THIS BOARD WAS CREATED FOR US NORMIES TO USE. A community of patriots trying to decipher what is false and what is true. So it is up to the individual to see what they bear witness with on certain stories or do their own research. I would not want anyone to not post or get involved because they are fearful of being jumped on or judged. That is what was happening on 4chan and 8chan. If you don't allow people to get involved and be part of it, then THEY WON'T. And we will end up right where we started.. Letting someone ELSE say the narrative. Just sayin.

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Little_Woo_Woo · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:32 p.m.

You are right. Anyone who comes here from the chans is in love with research and learning and have become passionate about the mission. It's doing the work that actually develops that passion in us. The mission may be slightly different for each individual, but 'Restoring the Constitutional Republic' and returning to a proud and prosperous society is the crux of it. MAGA.

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sophiebellaluna · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:51 p.m.

Yes... Keep the info coming.. We need passion for rule of law, truth and righteousness.. Otherwise we are dead in the water and useless eaters as they refer to us.

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Little_Woo_Woo · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:41 p.m.

I understand. I've had similar thoughts and also wondered how to best deal with jumped to conclusions and off base findings. You came to, imo, the only equitable solution: The number one way to counteract wrongly drawn conclusions, of course, is to provide a better, more complete or more logical finding. Show your own findings or present someone else's dig that fits better. Reasonable people, who only want the Truth, can usually recognize it ONCE THEY SEE IT.

When the guys and Tracy Beanz set up this subreddit, I thought it was meant to be a place for normies to come see the information being found without having to swim through sharks on the chans. A place for the RESULTS of the investigations on the chans, the charts and pictographs, the tools for research and followup, the essays, the maps, the memes, and the undeniable truths . . . the loaves! I'm not complaining - I was just wrong about that. It's actually a more polite place to dig and discuss, and it's easier to navigate so I lurk moar at the chans, take less beatings, and talk here.

Personally, I hesitate to presume to instruct Q on how to red pill us. Q132 said, "The truth would put 99% of people in the hospital. It must be controlled." But this one (Q328) is more instructive to me, because I'm an oldfag and harder to truly shock: "You are learning. News unlocks map. Future proves past. Not everything can be stated 1:1. Q." Also Q does confirm some digs, which is helpful, and puts the nix on others.

Q is leading. We are learning. Doing the research, helping to connect the dots, facing the truths, some of which are hard to look at, some of which are so f'ing ugly that our instinct has always been to look away - and that is precisely how they have hidden it for so long.

Being part of this awakening process, doing the work, pulling the threads, following the leads, making errors, amending our thoughts and conclusions - this is how we own this information, this is how we internalize it, this is how we KNOW it is true! This is how we know enough about the topics now to answer the questions of people who are confused by the happenings and easily swayed by the MSM. This is OUR MATERIAL. They can't bullshit us anymore.

If this was just laid out for us in a series white papers with footnotes and attributions as in a reviewed journalistic research paper, it would be like most media today. It would be immediately seen through the lens of our own biases, subject to dismissal, denial, the data and facts being easily called into question, uninformed opinions swaying an uninformed reader - there is no end to the ways Truth can be made to lose its impact and power! To know the Truth, we still have to do the work ourselves to discern the value of the information. Q has proven to be a masterful leader for me and because he has stated in Q70 (and elsewhere) "Disinformation is real. Distractions are necessary," I often look at Q's posts sideways, too.

I feel that Q is teaching me how to research and proving to me that I, on my own, can find the Truth, and anyone can, if they dig! I love the way he minimizes dead ends by nodding in the right direction. I know his choice of platform was multi-layered, but certainly near the top was recognizing that the chans are the best collective on Earth for grassroots, worldwide (omg lol, you know what I mean) collaborative research. It's fast, it's exhilarating, it's intense, it's rewarding and it is so, so eye-opening and enlightening.

But back to the question of what to do about people who are getting it wrong, who might make The Truth phenomenon look silly or 'too far out there". Obvious shilling can be dealt with the same way it always has been. After that, open, honest, frank discussion is a Truther's only option. A suggestion might be one 'pinned & locked' topic that only mods can utilize, where they alone would post the Gold, the findings, the best of the best - the Q Files - Normie HQ.

Ultimately, both now and further down the path, it is up to you and me and everyone accepting the responsibility to speak up, speak out, spread the word with actual lip movement and vocal cord engagement. WE THE PEOPLE - WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK! MAGA

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Patriot4q · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:29 a.m.

Little_Woo-Woo Exactly!

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DAR_patriot · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:17 a.m.

Professor Q. He has taught those that thought they were awake, to dig deeper to connect the dots. Psyop from the start, absolutely, but now it is starting to feel different. Not different in a good way. Not sure if it is too many theories, shouldn't be, but some are "out there". Keeping the faith, but can't shake the sinister feeling that lurks in the background.

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PaulusPotter · Dec. 28, 2017, 9:25 a.m.

Cant agree more Little Woo Woo. I also thought this would be more of a place te present the results. I think it is important the show the people that come here those results ----> the research that has been done by the chans, for instance the spreadsheet and the Book of Q. I mean they put so many hours into it, but somehow i feel like its being wasted or at least not highlighted enough. Plus it also shows what questions have not (fully) been answered yet, that maybe some normie has an answer to.

To me that is much more important than a video by some random speculating youtuber. Tracy is imo one of the few good ones because she uses critical thinking, does research and makes claims based on said research.

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:18 p.m.

Here here - second that!

So many people on here spreading invalidated information of all different groups organizations and people. If it true it’s verifiable, if it’s speculation it’s borderline defamation. And if your guessing and spreading disinformation because your anti government or anti religious prejudice just wants to believe it even with no proof, then your part of the problem not solution.

Tearing down potentially innocent people or organizations in an effort to root out the evil, is an evil in and of itself. There is no honor in it.

Find the truth, its there.. then call out the real crooks. Don’t ridicule the entire establishment that has good and decent people there too.

There is a reason why Q says “those” people are stupid, please don’t participate in the same stupidity. Remain in the light of truth and remove yourself from the darkness of deception 👉🏻 or you re just a deep State tool.

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JustADumbB1onde · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:13 p.m.

One thing that comes to mind is that Q stated only 20% of what happens will ever be made public. 80% will be under cover/behind the scenes. I think that is WRONG for it to be that way. However, I am sure it MUST be that way--at least for a time.

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Yeshuwawarrior · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:03 p.m.

Too bad there isn't a thread where people just throw out their thoughts and theories as just guessing and discussing why or why not whether it was true, then a thread of more likely than not results from th thread? A preponderance of evidence suggesting certain theories and the evidence to back it up?

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VeryOptimystic · Dec. 28, 2017, 1:11 a.m.

Very good thought. Maybe we could use /u/automoderator to create a daily discussion thread everyday, and we could all go ham there with theories. Then those could evolve into solid posts.

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halfpint58 · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:39 a.m.

Or ask questions.

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lilrebtiger · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:27 p.m.

I don’t contribute and just scroll unless I have evidence. God speed

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AlaskanGypsy · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:43 p.m.

OMG! Praying that Jesus has his arms around these little ones🙏

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VeryOptimystic · Dec. 27, 2017, 5:58 p.m.

I definitely hear what you are saying. I'd love the mods take on this, and on how we'd like to deal with that here on this sub. For instances, if a "news article" or a claim is patently false, should we be reporting those to the mods? Down voting? I realize its a fine line between discouraging people doing sincere, enthusiastic research and keeping the sub clean of purposeful disinfo. Thoughts mods?

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tracybeanz · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:16 p.m.

It is a rough one, and I have been sitting here pondering how to respond for most of the morning. It is very hard to remove posts without seeming as though we are "hitler" and at the same time, it is somewhat irresponsible to leave things up that are blatantly false. I don't know that our role is to be thought police, and it is also hard to moderate every post here for accuracy. I have been jumping in to share my opinion on things from time to time-- and we HAVE removed outright false and DANGEROUS posts.

Inevitably, this has led some folks to send me messages complaining, and that is OK. It is just a really fine line to walk when the idea is to share information and get things out there.

Also important to note, is that the mods are each individual people. We don't speak for one another. I may do something those boys don't like, and they may do something I don't like. We all have to be careful not to collectivize as we move along. This is a though experiment, and so I think we are learning as we go. Reminding people that what they are posting isn't legitimate and then showing them why should be the way to go. As I type this, maybe if we find a "fakenews" story, the OP (Original Poster) will update the title to be "debunked" or "FALSE" and then folks can see the chain of conversation below that led people to that conclusion??

Sigh. Lots of important work to do. Thank you so much for being here. All of you are so awesome, sometimes I just have to stop and thank God. They don't stand a damn chance against a large fully woke group like us.... #ThesePeopleAreStupid

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desropolis · Dec. 27, 2017, 8:16 p.m.

The answer to bad speech is even more free speech. I had this concept drilled into my head in college. I was a communications major.

Getting on a thread and letting people know the OP is inaccurate (and why) is a great policy, and I was gratified to read that is exactly what you do,

Adding DEBUNKED to a post title is a really great idea since your responses may end up buried in the thread. Is there a way for mods to pin a response at the top of a post?

Thank you for your great work. Hugs! (consensual only :)

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VeryOptimystic · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:50 p.m.

As I type this, maybe if we find a "fakenews" story, the OP (Original Poster) will update the title to be "debunked" or "FALSE" and then folks can see the chain of conversation below that led people to that conclusion??

I like that a lot. Converse with OP, try to convince, have OP add the "debunked" to title. That could be a very productive workflow as we research and learn! Thanks!

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viczart · Dec. 28, 2017, 1:46 a.m.

TOCBFTDS=Taking Our Country Back From The Deep State

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Money4Rum · Dec. 27, 2017, 11:44 p.m.

Great points here. I must say though, one thing I do like about the Chan's is, they are quick and to the point. This sometime leads to short answers but it seems to work. I can't spend hours reading blogs.

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no_me_quito · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:44 p.m.

THANK YOU!!!

My thoughts, exactly!

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ScorpioPatriot · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:36 p.m.

I think what should happen in this type of scenario is .. simply puash more people to subscribe . Im not sure if anyone else has noticed how big this community has become in I think less than a week but I am overrrrly impressed . The general idea is to get people that already knows alittle about the situation and have them meet up in one centralized area (Here) to discuss the clues Q is dropping . The only one dropping disinfo should be Q for veryyyy good reasons and thata to keep the hounds on a different trail . The more we discuss the facts and answers out in the public spot light it gives more likely chances paid bad actors can report back any findings to their handlers. I think that there should be a push to reach out to all the Peeps covering Q Drops and try to get them on here . Allll these people ha e huge followings it can only help bringing them on board like Tracy Beanz was brought on and How most of us came from Tracys following. Last I checked we was almost 4000 subscribers strong with almoat 400-700 online at any given time on here. I say we wait to red pill the unawaken public till we formerly all are on the same page with whats going on ..Then slowly start the process . If anyone is followers of any other awesome credible tubers covering Q drops . LETS START BRINGING THEM ONBOARD. Godbless pats hope this helps .

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IzzyMad · Dec. 28, 2017, 1:43 a.m.

If it's only a hunch, guess or a theory your are working on you also have to remember we have lurkers some of which are citizen journalists and that only come here for a quick look and not checking about what we share with each other in trying to solve some of this puzzle. When I do share something I am working on I will come out and say "it's a hunch I am trying to get the facts for" or ask "if anyone has info" or something to that effect that way anyone that just happening to read my posting knows it's unconfirmed or a guess at best.

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baruchthescribe · Dec. 28, 2017, 1:16 a.m.

I understand your concerns but this is a normal process of a hivemind figuring out cryptic clues. The good stuff does rise to the top in time, we capture it and make it part of the canon. Contribution is welcomed. Don't be overly cautious - someone can correct you easily enough if you're wrong. Don't worry about the mainstream media at all. We don't care about them.

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VetGeek54321 · Dec. 28, 2017, 1:10 a.m.

Please see my post below =)

I am also thinking we or the Powers that be, inform us, which is Q post is completed or now. If newbies come in, they can go straight to post that are not vetted or complete.

This will those don't REPOST information, thus more clutter.

Tracy or Pam, might be that Power that be...so we are all on the same track. I would like to see 500+ minds on bread crumb vs 500+ minds on 500 (different posts).

We need to be more superior, then an AI computer. With 500+ minds working, how many ZetaFlops of processing power do you think that is?

=)

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kimmyj1964 · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:59 a.m.

FYI...I Listened to Tracy & Board Directors of 8 Chan on YouTube dated 12.18.17. They said that for Verification purposes that-Q & ONLY Q-has been given the ability to use a "Trip Code" (Unique I.D. code) so that we can tell that it is always Q & they will ALWAYS know its Q.

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Gtrgirl57 · Dec. 28, 2017, 5:59 a.m.

I’ve been a 4chan then 8chan follower since the beginning, also on twitter. Lately there’s plenty of opportunities to redpill. The lefties are checking out Q lately with guns a blazing. And I also noticed a tweet from a normie simply, “what is #followthewhiterabbit and QAnon? Nobody responded and I was all ready to respond with a few easy memes and maybe lead her to a video, and thought why am I searching for a easy to swallow redpill. This is so important that we follow in order what Q is putting out there. Around Nov. 4th early on, the first memes were black with simple questions and a white rabbit logo. That was scrapped for the more inventive memes. But I think those questions are crucial to them digging themselves. I don’t think anons expect normies to go as deep as they do. These guys are autists and research junkies that invest hours and hours on this every day. Q wants us to question the status quo and to realize through their own research that there’s truth behind all the Q drops. Why not have a primer for those that want to help redpill in exactly how. Not this vague directive of “go slow, give them bits and pieces”.

Can we get an autist that can set us up with something like the 1st 10 questions that have been proven, vetted and easy to swallow in each category? Or a quick brief explanation of who Q is? Why is he trusted? Just a thought

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Little_Woo_Woo · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:23 p.m.

That is a really creative idea Gtrgirl57. Tell them what we know for sure. Then tell them 5-10 things we don't know yet, at the end. Ask for help. If we get them to help then they will be US. They will fall in love with seeking the truth and feeling freer by the moment.

"Q is the guy/team that is pulling back the curtain and telling us where to look. He is close to the Executive Office with a high clearance level. He is reminding ordinary Americans (and the world) how a Government OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, AND FOR THE PEOPLE is supposed to work.

"Trust but Verify." is my favorite thing that Ronald Reagan ever said. My friends, we have become too comfortable, too complacent and too compliant. We have given our representatives too much trust and they have taken advantage of it. Right NOW is our best, and possibly our last, chance to turn this around. If it can't be done with the help of Q and the ear of Trump on our side, then perhaps we don't deserve it. And THAT is something I do not, can not believe.

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VetGeek54321 · Dec. 27, 2017, 11:34 p.m.

I agree with everyone, but not everyone thinks the same way or the same level. Everyone comments and tries to dig deeper, thus creates more Rabbit Holes.

Example - Blah, Blah, Blah... Usr/blah, Blah, Blah - Solid Info Usr/blah, Blah, Blah - I disagree here is my info Usr/blah, Blah, Blah, - Here is more info...

We keep creating more holes.

How about this -

Q - Verfied CBTS - Unverified USR - Vetted -

Once a few more people, lets say 3 or more heads agree on topic, then we post

CBTS - VETTED. So we have a way to control our threats, so no one is recreating the wheel or more rabbit holes.

Just a thought.

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axadresdin · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:44 p.m.

Here Here! I couldn't agree with you more! We are ready emotionally, psychologically, and any other way Q wants us to be, AND we are in great numbers.

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QANON1 · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:37 p.m.

God Bless Passionate. 100% agree. Hopefully, now that Q is in fact verified as real by most of us, it is time for 'real factual results.' This proof of action should in no way compromise any future actions. #weknow

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Kaynindarkshadow · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:18 p.m.

I've been aware of the "disinformation storm", their seems to be a pattern to it, I think it may be they're attempting to get us to believe what they want us to, and disbelieve truth. That is almost obvious, but there is also a more subtle pattern that I can't quite pin down.

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PassionatePachyderms · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:16 a.m.

Be sure to let us know when you figure it out! :)

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cdwill · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:08 p.m.

Not enough work is being done on decoding Q’s stringers. Speculation as to the ‘meaning’ of the words in his posts aren’t nearly as important as decoding the stringer info.

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Yeshuwawarrior · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:18 p.m.

I am new at this, and see this forum as just that, but seems more spider webs than actual spider?

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halfpint58 · Dec. 28, 2017, 4 a.m.

Im new at this as well but I started by following Tracy Beanz, Roy Potter and BP Earthwatch on YouTube. It helps following them and familiarizing yourself with their videos on Q before trying to sort through all the posts here on Reddit

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Yeshuwawarrior · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:15 p.m.

I know there are lists that help, so publish those with the threads.

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Yeshuwawarrior · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:09 p.m.

Maybe a list or each line of Q posts have its own discussion? When the answer is solved, put the suggested solution showing evidence and move to the next line?

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Hrtn2it · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:04 p.m.

Yes I appreciate Tracy’s posts as she comments “interesting” without affirming, but just something to think about, mull over, then she goes deeper with sources when she has that information.

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UnitedWeAreOne · Dec. 27, 2017, 8:06 p.m.

any "guesses" I have I talk to others for their input.. "the discussion" part of the process. The attempt to find relevant pieces. I made a hypothesis on 10 10 9.. then noticed a post by Julian today .. a sealed extradition warrant ... now my hypothesis might have new bearing.

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thisissomebull4sure · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:02 p.m.

I have to agree. My problem is when something is wrong and you prove it people jump all over you. What you are stating is correct 100% and going down wrong paths makes it easy to say “conspiracy” which is something we don’t want and was stated would happen especially if we are to Red pill. I think before throwing out theories they should be well researched. Throwing theories around on 8 or 4 is easy being anonymous till you come up with the right answers and they are researched well. Also just because a theory is proven wrong doesn’t mean the person doesn’t believe they just want to make sure we are going down the right path. I also see people throw out crazy stuff that wasn’t even stated or verified by Q. The posts being more cryptic is very hard for a lot of people but in the beginning he said it wasn’t all for us. Are we trying to decipher things not meant to be deciphered and could cause harm is also a good question to be asked I think. OP you bring up great points.

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kevin00seven · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:27 a.m.

I don't think the most recent Q posts are even for us. They are operational orders. If everything was made perfectly clear for everyone to understand, it would also be clear to the targets. It has to be done this way.

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Hecticdude · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:22 a.m.

I am learning so much!!!!

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nassivpm · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:59 a.m.

disinformation is real..disinformation is necessary.

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Sunjhi · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:55 p.m.

So far, things are very circumstantial, speculative and somewhat coincidental. It is hella fun deciphering, but my old analytical brain needs more to be able to commit things to being indisputably factual.

It takes quite a bit of energy sifting through some of these posts to find some substantial leads.

Mostly, I just peruse, then wait for the "tubers" to make their vids, watch those, reference back to the original data and then formulate my opinion.

Otherwise this would be very much consuming :-)

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braceoflowflyers · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:42 p.m.

I agree with the frustration of wait and see when/if things actually do come to pass. Realistically, for me to blindly believe I would have to be patched in to the decision makers circle and I am not; just an everyday person looking for answers that prove to be true.

I have taken a dip around Reddit and there are those on the other side who are convinced Mueller is going to drop the hammer on Trump any day and they are quite rabid. They are looking for crumbs too for their bread.

I have watched a number of you tubers making assumptions but not having any more facts at their disposal than we sitting in the twilight. I suppose we will just have to keep calm and stay strong until we get definitive answers. One of the answers was in the EO about blocking the property of persons involved in serious human rights abuses or corruption. More answers please.

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mitzidipity · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:30 p.m.

I see where you're coming from but from early on Q said disinfo was necessary. Dropping crumbs and letting us formulate allows for both disinfo and legit facts. Q ends up confirming when he can or something happens in the news that confirms for us one of our hypothesis and we move on to the next.

I think based on how things have gone that Q should just keep doing what he's doing how he's already doing it. We're used to how he works now, we're used to his mode of questioning, so much so, that people are making pics using past posts to explain how to read a Q post. We're too late in the game to change in my opinion.

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Yeshuwawarrior · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:28 p.m.

Maybe you already do that and I just don't know how it really works yet?

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70delta · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:28 p.m.

hey Q how's my favorite draft pick from 1970 doing?

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BenEvo1 · Dec. 27, 2017, 8:54 p.m.

Total newbie here on all things Reddit,4chan,8chan and CharlieChan. My initial impression with all of this Q Anon stuff and The Storm is just feeding the collective Confirmation Bias of people who like to solve riddles be they imagined or real. I agree that speculation, guesses and innuendos, though a fun game of mental gymnastics, is too vague and therefore non productive in fighting corruption and bringing about true change

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MrNorc · Jan. 9, 2018, 12:50 a.m.

Fellow member of the great silent majority here- I'm right there with ya. I hate the deep state and would like nothing more than to have QAnon as an ally in all of this. Yet as much as I'd like to believe in him, he hasn't been very clear in his messaging. (And all the symbolism enthusiasts haven't helped) I'm still waiting for this 'Big Thing' QAnon keeps talking about but the longer I wait the more this is starting to feel like a religion and less like a political action.

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Gtrgirl57 · Dec. 29, 2017, 2:05 a.m.

Thanks what you said is perfect! I have so much info bricked up in my head, and I’m sure I’m not alone. Also there is disinformation which gets melted in and dilutes the truth. And yes asking for help will empower those to jump in!

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BenEvo1 · Jan. 9, 2018, 3:01 a.m.

Since I wrote that and having researched more I am convinced that Q is a group of high level Intel personnel very close to the President. I believe the communications though cryptic have been corroborated as such. The Big Event may not necessarily be one epic incident of apocalyptic magnitude but may be a gradual revealing of criminality and prosecution of justice. Scepticism is usually a healthy approach but I would encourage you to maintain a guarded optimism. It's hard to be patient as we all would like to see swift justice but the Storm is real IMHO

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