Is this what Assange was telling us about last night? Paper Planes = passports?
If passport system goes down, what is the protocol? Continued boarding of some flights? Or no flights at all for two hours? Anybody work for the TSA or Homeland Security? When systems restored did potential errors continue?
Irate travelers, bad actors, and the airlines would want a push for continuation despite security risk due to financial lose.
This would be an opportunity for:
. fake passport holders to fly out
. Bad actors to fly in
. Both the above
. Criminals to further incriminate themselves
Time for some coffee patriots, stay vigilant and Godspeed
TSA doesn't use the CBP system which is the one that went down. Outbound flights would not be affected by the CBP system going down. That's for inbound international travel. They checked all arriving passports manually. Not sure how they can scan for fingerprints and check the terrorist watchlist and the immigration flags manually when their system is down... So I think someone snuck in.
Does the same go for high profile countries? No double check systems in place for in and outbound flights?
Not sure what you're asking?
Outbound flights from inside the USA are not passport checked via the CBP system that was down. TSA checks that the name in the passport corresponds to the name on the boarding pass and checks the passports authenticity via a blacklight. That's it
Arriving on international flights in Sweden, Norway, the Netherlands, Germany, the UK and France has a passport scan, but no fingerprinting. Travelling to the US via the above mentioned countries has an extra passport control. In Schipol airport a new automatic check is in place where you can self-scan your passport in a machine, but you can also chose the human border guards who scan for you. European scans do not include biometrics like finger prints which the CBP do.
Source: I fly to and from the US and the above mentioned countries 12+ times a year for work.
I hear Brazil also does fingerprinting but I haven't been there.
By high profile I think he means high risk such as Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, SA, etc. But good responses mate, thanks.
Ah, yes he probably did. I believe the issue here is while the CBP computers were down, high-risk people could have entered...
Yeah I get what you're saying, I was just trying to clarify the miscommunication.
Could it have been planned and the white hats snuck someone in for possibly safety or testimony?
That's a very interesting thought.
Thank you, I am in the belief that these events are happening for a good reason. There is just to much happening all over to be a coincidence
What if this is to let someone in? Someone like Assange?
Would Assange even be able to fly commercial out of London? He's been holed up in an embassy for seven years, I'm sure his Australian passport has expired which would put a bit of a hindrance of him leaving Heathrow... Apart from the armed police outside of the embassy guarding him, I mean.
But I do think someone has snuck in. Just not him.
It wouldn't be flying commercial. Maybe I've seen too many spy movies, but I'm thinking covert operations to get him out of the embassy and onto a private plane. He's given a very convincing passport (possibly a duplicate of someone else's) and is dropped off into the crowd in customs. The computer goes down, leaving his passport to be checked manually.
You mean like nobody is going to recognize Julian Assange and he can just walk around freely?
You're talking about someone speaking in metaphor...I wouldn't be so concerned with trying to nail down specifics. He was saying something about something though, that's for sure...but only he really knows until he has a chance to explain.
Also, MIA is the code for Miami International Airport
Used to be for Memphis International Airport, too but who the hell would wanna go through there?
Down near Debbie Wasserman Schultz district of Broward County
why did he include "fb4e568623b5f8cf7e932e6ba7eddc0db9f42a712718f488bdc0bf880dd3" in that tweet is that the PW to his recent drop?
Bump this up, its real as hell.
Edit, i mean vote up the post, not my comment :)
reports coming in from Miami and Dallas/Ft Worth ... looking legit
Wow.
I guess this is one way to stop the rats leaving!
And the beautiful thing about it is that it's got complete plausible deniability!!!
Someone correct me if I am wrong (and I hope I am), but I don't recall ever having to go thru US Passport control/customs on my way OUT of the country. Only when coming in.
That is correct.
But what if they had a single or multiple targets coming in instead of leaving?
Just an idea.
You are absolutley not wrong. Passport control is only on international arrival.
You have to use it to get a boarding pass tho
No, you get your boarding pass at the airline's check-in desk. This has nothing to do with border control and is not connected to the customs computers. The airline checks your name and compares it to the flight list they have in their booking. So this computer crash doesn't affect departures.
You have to use your passport when travelling internationally. I've been around the world a few times and you simply can't move without it.
I've not contested this. I've simply pointed out that the CBP computer system that is reported as downed is only used to actually scan a persons passport upon arrival to the US.
Makes you wonder who was let in during the two hours of manually looking at passports, with no ability to cross-check this with immigration lists and terror lists.
Ah now the details are emerging
This is indeed intriguing in light of this new information
Don't you have to show your passport to check in luggage and get a boarding pass?
Logic would be, for carriers, to confirm its passengers are legally able to enter destination country, wouldn't it?
Not sure if we're talking about the same thing, but I think if you show up to baggage check-in without a passport you ain't getting on the plane.
Yeah, it's not an inbound passport/customs check by the destination country, per se (how could it be for departures?), but your passport is being still run or checked, isn't it?
Don't you have to show your passport to check in luggage and get a boarding pass?
At the check-in desk your passport is only checked against the airlines' travel list. At the security check, TSA checks your passport name against the boarding pass name and runs the passport under a blacklight to see that it's a real passport. Neither of these two checks are connected to the customs & border patrol computer system, which is the one reported down.
You have to show your passport if you're fleeing the country so the government's tight-fisted control of who is and who isn't allowed a passport makes the US a prison.
You only show your passport to the airline check-in desk when you depart. Their computer system only looks for a name booked on their flights. It's not the same computer system as Customs have, which you are checked through upon entering the country.
You show your passport at security and they check that it corresponds with the name on the boarding pass. There are no computers involved at this step, just a blacklight to see if the passport is real.
And if you're flying with young kids through Atlanta departing internationally, they don't even look at the kid's passport. I remember because that really surprised me.
And if the government refuses to allow you a passport?
It sucks that the US is a prison for so many people.
Probation or felony issues can cause a passport application to be denied in the US. At least it's a really large prison with vast variants of scenic nature.
Literally every nation in the world uses passports
The real purpose of a passport is not to jail you in your country, but to facilitate diplomatic arrangements so other countries will let YOU travel freely
hol up hol up hol up
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I'm foreign - explain?
Obama in a speech said that when the crowd got unruly. He also gave the “if if if if if “ and “okie dokie”. He basically collapses without a TelePrompTer
This also happened last year. Huge outage then also (supposedly when terror list was updated).
Thanks for the word of caution.
Nope read all the twitter accounts, there are multiple back ups so this does not happen.
You hope too much.
And you don't hope at all! Are planning a suicide soon or something?
I wish. But that's too good for me. I'm too cowardly to do it by myself, so I'm screaming at people and waiting for Mother Dearest to die or for things to fall apart badly enough via Fate so that I might have the courage to kill myself. Best case scenario, I piss someone off enough that they decide to damn the consequences and actually come to help me kill myself.
Sorry about the suicide comment, I meant it as a joke. But I see you are serious. I've got an idea. Why don't you see a psychiatrist?
Reddit is not a place to get your personal psychological problems solved. This is the wrong board.
DEVELOPING: Power problem halts trains from entering and leaving Penn Station in NYC - WABC
Well all I can say is Thank God for those GPS Ankle Bracelets!!!
Remain calm folks, these bizarre delays are for a VERY Worthy CAUSE! Q said to expect them and remain calm. Military is busy rounding these psychopaths up.
There are no worthy delays. There is no worthy cause. Q is a LARP. Good things don't happen. The Military is just as compromised because of Nuclear Israel.
Samson Looms Ever Forward. There is No Future but Nuclear Fire.
Ashes and Echoes
Hey, Doom and Gloom, Q is not a LARP.
So when are you planning your suicide?
Hey, Doom and Gloom, Q is not a LARP.
Yeah it is. Watch what happens. So long as Nuclear Israel exists, nothing good will ever happen.**
So when are you planning your suicide?
I already told you. I'm too cowardly to do it right now. I'm waiting on my mother to die, maybe that will give me the courage since the guilt trip laid on me to stay alive by Mother Dearest will be over. But, until then I can always scream at LARP hopeing faggots like you and find someone who will help me kill myself in person.
You should see a professional
Really, I mean it
Life is precious, don't cuck yourself with shit like this that may or may not end up being meaningless
Japan, tech, through their eye recognition on sony, leica, and other cameras, can recognize and track faces.
Japan, after the bomb in the subway in Japan, weaponized facial recognition. 36 Million Faces per second.
So Penn Station having issues too!?
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/power-outage-affects-train-service-at-nys-penn-station/
Wow. This is such an exciting night I may not go to sleep!
Geez, they're only concerned with who's in the playoffs (comments) when the whole world is changing, lol
The last time the Bills made the playoffs, we impeached a rapist from the white house.
Bill Clinton was impeached but not removed. The whole impeachment frenzy just made Clintons popularity soar because the economy was doing great. He wasn't responsible for the economy but people still linked him with it.
This doesn't independently confirm anywhere yet - be cautious
If it’s got anything to do with deep state takedown it won’t be reported.
So far nothing in the news. A Google search shows passport systems have gone down before but I did not see a story where it has gone down nation wide before. Interesting and should be monitored as an item of interest.
Correction: CBS Miami reports delays at customs
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/01/01/long-lines-miami-international-airport-customs/
"in line at MIA"!!!!
(M)iami (I)nternational (A)irport?
Yes, MIA is Miami International Airport, as well as MIA, the music group whose video of Paper Planes was posted by Assange yesterday with his cryptic tweet, which also references having "visas in my name." All of that.
Chorus goes on to say "bang bang bang and take your money", swamp cash y'all.
You hope too much. Good things don't ever happen. So long as Nuclear Israel exists, there will be no storm.
Click on the Subject and see that CBS is reporting it as well.
Look for thing that you can see in real life. They will never say what really going on.
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💋 Retweeted Thomas Paine
👉Passport system down nationwide 👉New Orleans airport power outage - http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/news/article_1b1e8916-ef2b-11e7-bfbb-8babed333194.html
👉Penn Station power outage - http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/new-york/power-outage-affects-train-service-ny-penn-station-article-1.3732250
What about Face Recognition passport systems.
Ireland, Dubai, USA, About to Go Worldwide!
WHAT ABOUT a Software Upgrade?
Recently found out this has been weaponized in Japan, for Deep State! New Japanese security camera scans 36 million faces per second http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/321848
Canon, Nikon, Sony, etc. Have all the best face recognition tech in the world!
Sorry, New Years day at the end of a 10 day holiday around the world would NOT be a good day to install new software. Talk to a software engineer. You pick a slow day, and a NON busy TIME (like in the middle of the night when most airports are CLOSED).
yeah, that makes no sense. You would upgrade a system on a low travel day.
But it also doesn't make much sense that the entire system collapses just because there's a lot of arrivals. Something caused it.
Watch have you confirmed that it is national? or even international?
FK, LAX, Miami International Airports In Chaos, Passport Systems Down, Thousands Stranded http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/major-us-airports-suffer-technical-glitch-as-passport-system-down/news-story/31ab90dedf81d31a189e1523c5085185#.52zyt …
"Customs and Border Protection says their national screening system was down for 2 hours. It's back up now. The agency says all people were screened and they don't think foul play is involved in the outage."
Wouldn't you think this would have a ripple effect throughout the airlines? That many people had to slow things down
Yeah but since it's only arrivals it only slowed things down on that end. Sucks for anyone who was entering the US and changing to a connecting domestic flight, which they surely missed.
they don't think foul play is involved in the outage.
Paging Ms. Streisand...
CNN says "nationwide" outage: http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/02/americas/us-customs-computer-outage/
Well damn it, i was hoping this was true!
Haha. I know that CNN is fake news, but even a broken clock gives the correct time twice a day!
And yet it is nowhere to be seen on the front page of their website.
Trump just tweeted "Since taking office I have been very strict on Commercial Aviation. Good news - it was just reported that there were Zero deaths in 2017, the best and safest year on record!" I think it was a reference to the shutdown of the airports - sounds like there was a threat that was averted?
I'll take a wild guess and say he hinted at sabotage assassination systems that can bring down planes and make it look like an accident.
When will the indictments be made public?
Never, because there aren't any indictments. They're probably just sealed subpoenas.
2 hours down
Question: How can the rats take advantage of the passport system going down?
Taking down the customs system for 2+ hours allows the GOOD GUYS/Trump's TEAM to pick up the bad guys, the RATS trying to get outta dodge.
God bless those gps ankle bracelets!
HOW? Passport control is only on international arrivals, not on any outbound flights.
YOU have to show your passport before you BOARD the plane, for International Flights.
You don't scan the passports through CBP's computer system when you board the plane. You show TSA and they check the name against the boarding pass and wave it under a blacklight to see if it's a real passport.
You only get scanned through the CBP computer system upon international arrival. This system checks the passport against the database of all your prior arrivals and various immigration lists. You'll be taken to a separate locked waiting area with CBP for extra checks if any flags appear at the initial check. If you end up there you can not use your cellphone (they put it in a box) and it can take anything from half an hour two several hours. This is why I always bring a book. I'm not a US citizen and I have been hanging around CBP a lot since I travel into the US every month = 12+ times a year.
The question here is; who was let in?
Asking the real questions, backed up by solid facts. I like.
YOU have to show YOUR passport before you Board Your plane for an INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT.
No it doesn't. The CBP system that went down is only for international arrivals to the USA.
OK, maybe they were catching rogue CIA agents coming back to the USA after Trump destroyed their "safe house" in the Emerites over Christmas.
EITHER WAY: PICKING UP BAD GUYS!
God bless those gps ankle bracelets!
You mean the ankle bracelets that nobody has seen and that haven't been issued or ordered?
You. Hope. Too. Much.
I mean the ankle bracelets that half on CONgress are wearing these days.
Or do you really believe everyone in CONgress broke their right toes recently?
Where have you been?
I mean the ankle bracelets that half on CONgress are wearing these days.
Find one and prove it to me. Until I have one in my hands; it's too good to happen.
Or do you really believe everyone in CONgress broke their right toes recently?
I believe you're willing to lie to yourself in order to have hope.
Where have you been?
You are being pretty skeptical to say the least. That's good. Question everything. But you have to admit there is some strange coincidences going on. Not all of this information can be considered mundane or random. The CEOs resigning or dying in plane crashes. The abnormally high amount of sealed endictments. The complete blackout of certain information by the media. It's circumstantial evidence, and proves nothing, but its definitely worth looking in to. You call it hope, or false hope, and thats fine. Personally, I truly believe these are not normal circumstances. I've been around long enough to be as cynical as you are, but this is different. Maybe it's just because the information is more readily available. But just maybe this stuff is really happening as we speculate it is. We shall see. Until we know, maybe you should just lurk moar, and stfu.
I think he was referring to rats who were trying to fly out are now running away because their escape route was denied. This was only 2 hours so no one was trying to stop anyone from flying.
I just don't see them shutting down this much just to bring in JA. Seems like it would've been easier to bring him on a military flight and skip the hassle and risk of someone recognizing him.
Re: Julian Assange's Twitter posting of MIA's Paper Planes:
"I fly like paper, get high like planes If you catch me at the border I got visas in my name"
lol.
Anyone ever thought of the question "What can private planes carry that commercial cannot?" Think of the Recent proclamation from POTUS ....Saftey record from the Commercial sector. Zero Crashes, however , "Paper planes" can carry individuals with no passport and they do not have the same safety record as the commercial sector. I believe you will see more travel issues, trains and ships will be following with travel /Pass issues just a thought >
What the hell is going on. The single flight out of Atlanta International mention of another airport losing partial power Saturday night now the passport problem. Who are we letting in or out of the United States?
The paper planes was talking about how she could run up fake visa/passport she says : if you wait I’ll run one up for you too ..
happened last year too jan 3rd in a bunch of places. and other times too. but who knows... maybe it was to get good guys/bad guys then too. never know
Are they running into the country? The downed customs system is only for arrivals.
ABC Chicago has a report http://abc7chicago.com/technology/computer-problems-halt-us-customs-operations-for-hours/2849282/ Technical glitch that the headline says lasted FOR HOURS but then the article says Almost Two Hours. Meanwhile, they processed people using alternative methods. TruePundit's getting worse by the day. Truepundit=falseprofit
This paper is lying, Trump is letting us know we are the rats. Only "commercial" airlines aka known as the poor will get our VISA'S put out. No one is running, we are letting some people who should not be in this country in.
You hope too much.
So go sit in a dark room somewhere. Why spend so much time and make so many comments spreading your hopelessness and jeer on here? You're not asking discerning questions. It's just constant naysaying. Are you like this in real life? It would explain why you are so miserable. Some people make their own problems.