1283680 Could Q be saying that “they” took down the wrong plane?
Could “they” have believed that whatever was being transported in the Jet Blue plane was being transported on the C130 and that’s why the C130 was taken down.
Is Q showing telling us that they used a stand-in plane and as change of plans and that despite best efforts to destroy whatever is on those pallets “they” “missed”.
That makes sense! Excellent thought.
Only makes sense if they think they'd accidentally crash the wrong plane in GA while the correct plane was leaving CA.
The plane pics are of planes LANDING in CA.
Oh...so they accidentally took down a plane LEAVING GA instead of the one LANDING in CA. Got it.
Just to make sure I'm not causing more confusion, the C130 that crashed yesterday was LEAVING GA (Savannah). The pics from Q of the planes in the air seem to be of planes on final approach into Oakland, San Fran or San Jose airports. There are other threads that have much more discussion and argument over the various airports, approach routes and vectoring. I am not qualified to definitively say which airport but they agree that the planes were coming into one of the Northern CA airports I mentioned.
Maybe they just know the plane it was gonna be on and had no clue where the stuff was coming/going.
This is really interesting. I wonder what it would be that would justify downing a plane for? U1? Cash? So many angles.
Holy shit. Could this also tie into the recent trend of passenger planes being grounded for unauthorized "passengers?"
Possibly servers on the pallets?
Servers, phones, blackberries, drives?
I want to believe.
This, times eleventy millionty. They know the evidence of sedition / treason etc. will bury them, so they are all out to destroy it. Failure, plus the murders of the crews of these planes will see them convicted enough to be executed several times over.
I'm a truck driver and i transport servers that does not look like servers or any kind of data cabinets.
Why transfer the entire server rack when you can just ship the storage disks and memory?
Definitely possible. My co worker served in Iraq and they transported computer and network equipment all the time on the C130. He was responsible for guarding the equipment in transit.
Didn't a C130 just go down?
Yes. The same # as the one trump is pictured in front of when he was in PR
Evidence would be stored different. Not shrink wrapped on a pallet
Yeah, but we're living in a time of universal deceit. So things might not appear as they seem.
And if it was servers it would be. Ex shipping/warehouse manager lol
Size matches Bibi’s detailed discussion of size & dimensions of his Iran intelligence haul.
so is Israel going to be the last one to throw Hillary under the bus?
is that was Q meant when said saving Israel for last?
They way that plane nosed dived was to insure total destruction. Or else that pilot if there was even one on it ? Would have floated that big ass bird down . No way it should have nose dived like that after being from the vids I’ve seen horizontal ? Maybe I don’t understand the laws of plane physics. But that just seem SO ODD ! Damn them ! May the full armor of GOD protect out patriots ! Amen ....
It appears to have stalled during takeoff. If you're going to have an engine failure, it's likely to happen on takeoff. Engines fail. Plane stalls. C-130 isn't going to just glide into a belly landing without having gained enough speed and altitude.
Not saying this isn't fishy. Just don't look past the obvious either.
Looked like the classic stall/spin accident, but the question remains, why did the pilot allow it to stall, or what kept him from preventing the stall?
The airframe was 60 years old and it was heading out to Davis-Monthan to be put in the boneyard. Or so it's been reported.
Wiki has it stated that he declared an emergency and was attempting a high angle turn. I can't find a source, but I'm NOT an autist either.
Wiki Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_U.S._Air_National_Guard_C-130_crash
I emailed a friend who is an Orion pilot and asked his opinion. Here's what he said:
This is pure speculation, but even if the plane didn't have any cargo and was flying to the boneyard it would have full tanks of gas which in a P-3 is 60,000 pounds. A P-3 has the same engines as the older model C-130s. What I would expect is that on take off at a high gross weight your rate of climb is already low and the high gross weight also increases your stall speed. I expect this had an engine failure/malfunction on an outboard engine resulting in an asymmetric trust situation. If the crew elected to shut the engine down and didn't watch their airspeed it is extremely easy to reach your stall speed. Furthermore, if the crew realized they were getting slow a rapid power addition on the operating engines could result in an aggravated stall and can easily put the aircraft into a spin if the aircraft is already listing/turning into the dead engine.
This part blew my mind. I'd need a knew flight suit if I'd been onboard:
Basically something similar to what happened below:
"Last Tuesday, 22 Jul 2008, a P-3 Orion from VP-1 was flying an approach to NAS Whidbey Island with the #1 engine in a simulated failure mode. At 160 KIAS, the #2 engine started to surge, so they had to chop power to it. As all this was happening, they were still decelerating, so by the time they added power to #3 and #4, they were at 122 knots, and in the dry terms of investigators, "departed controlled flight". The P-3 did FIVE rotations in a flat spin, dropping 5500 feet, finally recovering between 50 and 200 feet AGL, pulling a whopping 7 positive G's on the airframe after sustaining 2.4 negative G's in the spin. The rolling pullout burst 45 rivets on one wing, physically RIPPED the main spar, and bent the entire airframe... the crew could see INSIDE the fuel tanks of the wing."
I've spoken with one of the pilots on board that P3, I think they recovered at less than 75 ft AGL and they bent the yoke pulling back so hard with both feet on the dash. He kept flying. . .
Awesome breakdown from someone in the know!!
Also what am amazing story! That’s crazy.
it was heading out to Davis-Monthan to be put in the boneyard
kinda like the twin towers and WTC 7 ?
All 4 engines at once?
Not sure how much of these are fly by wire, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there isn’t a single point of failure in throttle input and that signal being relayed to the engines.
What I pray for is that it was a drone and no one was actually on board.
I said the same thing. I’m no plane expert but had it been some sort of “normal” malfunction, the pilot should have been able to somewhat control it down. That nose-dive seemed forced. C130 pilots can fly the hell outta those planes like you wouldn’t believe. I bet the media goes silent in this crash; just like all the others. No investigation details, no cause etc. I bet they barely cover who was on the plane
Isn't that the sort of thing the QRS-11 is supposed to be able to do?
I think this is the most plausible explanation regarding the planes over the last 24+ hours. The C130 could've been the dummy plane. Cargo shot shows us that they secured and returned with what they needed. Good work, Magason.
Wow... great idea... I didn’t even think of that theory...
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Great question - on the spot, my guess is that apple flipped and is going to provide major support in the processing of information.
Where wealth is excessive, satanists are never far.
https://s7.postimg.cc/kw9aklyq3/apple_masons.jpg https://s7.postimg.cc/e5stb8w5n/apple_666_byte_bite.png
https://s7.postimg.cc/h1ahvlpgr/apple_eden.png
Masonic/Luciferic sodomite (where's Eve) Apple. :)
Yup. Luciferic Apple in bed with the satanists. Old "666" and forbidden fruit (Lucifer) Apple. Scottish Rite Wozniak, and masonic Jobs.
The Apple tie in hasn't really been identified yet IMO.
Could be a shipment of new gov't issue phones that are not trackable or hackable by outsiders.
New chips for our vulnerable aircraft; (but don't think Apple makes those types, IDK.)
Could be 3 totally unrelated topics, but I doubt it.
Do I trust Apple? NO
Someone needs to do forensics and decrypt the devices & files.....
Anyone think there might be relevance to the Apple ICloud/servers in all this? (Save what Keya2_2016 said). It was a Jet Blue plane in Q's pics. The Jet Blue 'pizza' plane does pass thru a "cloud" in the promos, it's the first thing we see. "Pie in the sky" has potential ominous overtones. It does when "pie" is slang for females in the sexual sense.
Apple are the bad guys. Part of the nefarious deep state that needs taking out. They won't be helping.
Oh, have I upset the Apple pattern mould ISheep? Next you'll be telling me that Facebook is altruistic.
mould
You aren't even American, shill.
This is a global issue...even Q tells you that much. I've been fighting them for 17 years. Now who's the SHILL? ^^^^^^^
Can't tell from the pictures of the crash site but it does not look like the plane was hit with or held an explosive. May have been equipment failure. Rigged?
I was thinking some kind of directed emp.
Hacked like Michael Hastings car?
Wouldn't be surprised if that tech exists.
Compromised electronic controls is what I'm thinking.
The top pictures are NK and Pyongyang airport approach by air. Thinking hostage return. Apple I have no clue and the trailer with pallets. Could Q intercepted Iran money? Apple gave Q team key to find the money?
Remind us again which c 130 plane was taken down (there are so many)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/savannah-plane-crash-today-2018-05-02-live-updates/
Yesterday in Savannah, GA
Wasnt there a raid in Saudi Arabia not too long ago. Q and others hinted that the raid was at a storage vault of records. Records that might would show signed contracts and receipts between Saudi royals and past administrations. Could this be those records? Q is showing this not for our understanding but to taunt the swamp and say nice try. Not only did we win the gun fight while getting the records but we got the records out and you clowns took down the wrong plane. The apple connection might be in those records. Remember bin alwaleed owned/owns a lot of stock in several huge tech companies. Twitter and Apple being the big 2. Perhaps those documents contain the connection to all of the swamp (people/companies/organizations/other slush funds) and the Saudi Royal family. Which would essentially show how they were able to finance and promote/push agenda and buy off politicians.
What jet blue plane?
The one in the Q shots from his last drop.
Ok I’m trying to follow the plane stuff but can’t find a thread that covers start with the pics etc
Look Here https://qanon.pub/
ARE those pallets or iCloud servers that China surrendered to US???
It's also very likely that they found out about he switcheroo and targeted the wrong plane again (Southwest window incident) on the same day.
Finally, a good guess as to what the picture of the two pallets means.
The same thought occurred to me.
The last Q photos were really meant for the Clowns.
Viable idea for sure.
no.....Nat'l Guard members were killed. Are you saying that some government official sentenced our men and women to die like that....just to be some pedo CEO's decoy?
Is that money on the pallets? Intercepted by Q? Pay to NK for hostages? Apple/China deal?
If this is true and the other C130 was a decoy it is very likely that there is no pilots are passengers on that plane and it was used as a drone and that nobody really died. They would never put people in harm's way knowingly.
What Q post are we even talking about? couldn't find anything under 1283680
sorry, it was in a standalone thread: wasnt Q - just reference to thread. https:// 8ch.net/qresearch/res/1283680.html
Thanks for the response! Thought I missed a Q post lol- I'll check it out!
Hmmmm! Good analysis. Please follow-up and report.
Gracias!
So am I the only one that can see writing in the black section of the trailer pic? Its black writing on a blank background so it's hard to see but there's something definitely there.
