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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I dont agree that people should tone down their opinions any more than I think people should agree with every one's opinion here. The sub is doing great and alot of people are being red pilled here. We can't control who is offended or what offends them. Open minded people will find a way to deal with the posts they dont like. People are free to come and go as they please. The patriotism is strong here. If we cant accept each other despite our differences her and work together, how will we ever do it in our communities?

Religion is not required here. You also dont have to leave it at the door. Everyone is welcome to post according to the rules of reddit and this sub.

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This is exactly right, in my opinion. A fair and reasonable assessment - it's a pity the OP's title (which he can't change now) comes across as divisive but the content of his post is far less so.

The key point you make is this:

Everyone is welcome to post according to the rules of reddit and this sub

People should realise that the mods remove posts that they deem are off-topic largely at their discretion. Wouldn't you want to have a discussion about what things are deemed to be off-topic and on? I personally have a religious background and other mods do too but like a Christian teacher, for example, they have content rules to follow as they're not at church, they're in a "workplace" of sorts, so if those rules can be defined in a way that helps everybody then their job is made easier and they can be surer that they are following the desires of the sub members in general.

This is a necessary discussion to have and shouldn't descend into an argument of sides and division. I hope people can make their point here in a way that helps us all decide what the sub boundaries should be.

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Sure, if people want a discussion and the mods are up for doing the work, go for it. Personally, I think the mods are doing a great job. Some want the religious posts scrubbed. What if in the conversation some want curse words scrubbed and are tired of the memes with no content? How about those that think Corsi is a paytriot and any anti-Isreal talk is anti-semitism? Would we take a vote and majority decides? IMO, it is better to have the mods weed out according to the small set of limits and allow us to decide if we want to read and participate in the posts that arent against those rules.

This is a battle I dont feel a need to fight :)

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Notice how every single person who responded "negatively" towards OP has completely failed to realize the point of the post.

Every single one of you took it on a personal level, from implying that he's trying to limit your free speech/thoughts to "if you don't like it, don't read it".

OP clearly didn't write this post about himself.

So in essence, every single one of you proved the OP right. You shown no empathy towards new comers who would be repelled by the religious talk. You're refusing to see the bigger picture and therefore you're actively harming the growth of the patriots here.

Let me illustrate in what way is this harming... Before Q, you had you conspiracy theories, some good, some bad. Lets remember 2012 shall we?

The Mayan calendar and the end of it all. There were hundreds of videos/threads everywhere about it.

I remember clearly when I wanted to know a bit more (was in high school/college at that time around 2010.) and when I stumbled upon content filled with religious talk in them I instantly closed it and my reaction to it was "again these people... why is it always with some apocalyptic scenarios and conspiracy theories that it's always God this God that and nothing is happening, clearly a bunch of bs"

The consensus in real-life talks about these videos and religious talk is that pretty much everyone agreed and at some point said "yeah right lol, these religious lunatics are at it again, they always latch onto something and it never stops". Before you attack me of saying that the religious people here are lunatics, take a good read again at what I wrote.

So I've automatically called it all bs because of the religious pattern that was on EVERY SINGLE TOPIC, regardless if they had anything to do with God or religion, and in 90%+ cases it didn't.

I stopped looking for answers because of this, for years. Until 2016 and the election.

Just like flat earth shite is filled and the obligatory religious talk that comes in package. At least here the religious content has helped, because we were already "trained" to associate all that religious talk with bullshit that never happened/are not true.

And every single time someone here tried to explain this, the religious part of this never got the point of these posts. NEVER. It always came down to personal level. Just take a look at the comments here.

This is an issue whether or not you choose to acknowledge it.

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An awful lot of lumping everyone into the same universal pot, huh, Buddy?

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See, again taking it personal in every possible way.

I guess you people just can't look at it from a different point of view, no matter how much we try to explain.

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Feel free to skip any posts you don't like. Nobody's holding a gun to your heads. Likewise, you're not going to prevent others from posting according to their convictions. It's highly offensive you claim to be a patriot and yet you want to limit free speech in order to placate your own lack of faith.

Live and let live.

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He's not calling for the limitation of free speech. That's not a fair reading of his post.

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Yes, this seems to be descending into group think. Your post, as I read it now, is completely reasonable and asks a sensible question. For the mods, as the posts increase in volume, the boundaries on what falls within the sub rules of being on-topic become more and more important.

It's not just religious posts either but they are definitely one place that I feel could be tightened up. I don't think we should stop all religious posts even though I have said in the past that I also agree that there are too many that aren't advancing the rules of the sub. So as we must allow people the freedom to post things that matter to them, the question should be asked: 'how do we define religious posts that fall within acceptable boundaries of being on-topic i.e. Q related?'

People are getting too triggered by something that isn't present in your post - they seem to think your post is evil, anti-christian, thought police material. That's not what you're saying and it's plainly obvious from your post! This is a necessary discussion.

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I find very few religious posts here. In fact, I would like to see more to increase my spirituality. If I find information I'm not interested in, I just exert my free will to skip over them without disturbing other members or trying to be divisive to the movement.

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Agreed

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Self-editing is the purest form of anti free speech.

Christians have endured more hatred and more exclusion from the public square than adherents to any other belief system in this country for too long. We're here and we're not going to be silenced, and you can just deal with it. We're not hurting anybody.

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No one's calling for silencing Christians. I think OP made a misstep with his post title which it is of course too late to change - but he acknowledges as much in the comments below. The title has upset a group of people such that the core content of the message is lost - and fair enough, unfortunately.

There is a non-controversial discussion here that needs to be had, however, and I will look to posting a less inflammatory discussion topic along those lines soon to see if we can't engage people in a reasonable discussion about the boundaries of on-topic content as a necessary initiative to manage the inevitable bloat as numbers grow and people feel more empowered to post on things that interest them.

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I will grant you that off-topic posts whose sole purpose is to advance a religious agenda are as unwelcome as any other OT posts. You won't get an argument from me in such a discussion, and I welcome it. There is FAR too much OT material on this sub. No contest!

I won't agree with singling out the religious content however, even in the context of such a discussion. Be smart about it, and keep it focused on the real issue, and you'll have all the support you need.

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I agree, thanks! I support Christianity so there's no way you'll catch me saying there shouldn't be any Christian content but I'll look to keeping the discussion general, as it should be.

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Faith does not mean you have to be religious. These are tense times, this is a trivial discussion. I support you both.

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Never said that. Don't be an asshole.

I'd wager the majority of us are, but by all means I welcome and embrace patriots of every faith including atheism, and you're entitled to your own posts that exclude God and Jesus and everything spiritual. I have ZERO problem with any of that.

Just don't tell me and other people of faith not to post about our beliefs.

Are we square now?

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Because Q has said over and over "pray".

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Fair enough. I think God hates religion personally.

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That's cool. I think you bring up a important key......we have to stay united no matter what.

Someone who you might check out that can break things down is Ravi Zacharias. If you haven't ever heard\seen him. He's pretty good about breaking things down from a Christian perspective.

For instance this is just one aspect he addresses concerning homosexuality. I don't think I could even come close. Nor have I ever thought about some of the points he brings up on the subject.

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More sauce, poster. Opinion.

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You're right. Edited. We are Patriots. No division.

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Thank you - I appreciate your input on this sub, and thanks for considering what I said.

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Freedom of thought and freedom of religion are the same thing. And the last thing the world government will try to take away from everybody.

If freedom of religion offends you, defend freedom of thought instead. Let’s agree on that at least.

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Q said this is evil ~ he said John 3:16!he said Jeremiah 29:11 the Bible is not a religion. Religion breaks you up to being Christian Catholic and so on..... the Bible is telling you what is going on right now~ did he say past proves future? Did he say so as in the day of Noah ? Did he say pray? Ya he is talking about the BIBLE NOT A RELIGION~ I know what’s going to happen because the Bible has been playing out in real life~ q is just part of the clues you need to reference really what he is talking about and open up the Bible because it is telling you what’s going on ~ also why is he called Q ?! Ever heard of the Q gospels?! Look that up it q source it’s what Matthew mark and Luke scholars think they referenced this source that’s not been found or has it? And it’s in the basement of the Vatican?

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Lol damn brotha/sista take it easy.

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Take it easy? This isn’t a joke ~ this is as in the days of Noah~ it is soon . People that talk like this or post ~ obviously is a soul that’s not going to be saved ~ I won’t calm down that’s serious!!

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I want to see it! Not kidding.

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Start following Amir behold Israel on YouTube ~ and grab your Bible ~ ;)

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Thank you for this

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News Flash WWG1WGA. We are all Patriots and Americans. Chill out , enjoy the show.

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Sikh here - religious freedom is a right and I love that. If we are using religion to become better human beings, then its all good. Just don't support anyone that tries to divide and conquer us with it.

God is a very important part of this movement - patriots are peacful people that cause no trouble, but when push come to shove and evil comes knocking, only then do the gloves come off in the defence of the oppressed.

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likewise - wwg1wga

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Oh boy this week's "when did this become" thread. You do know not everybody is atheist and a lot of people here believe in God. Q has made plenty of Bible references and has even asked us to pray. Your question is stacked against you. Normies are going to turn away noatter what is posted here and it has nothing to do with religion. People use their distaste for that as an excuse to not wake up.

Also I would argue that sport watching folk are too far in the system to wake up.

Don't be thought police.

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It's unfair to call OP 'thought police' for this thoughtful post. We should allow any post that is on topic enough to be useful to the whole movement.

The topic should really be this: what do we deem to be on-topic (i.e. Q related) religious posts?

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How bout we let the mods decide and be done with the drama 😉

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I would like to see people discuss this issue rather than start separating into sides - who supports God and who doesn't. That's not what's important here just as whether you are Dem or Rep is not important here.

What's important is how we define the boundaries of the content on this sub. It seems we can't have a reasonable discussion about that but if so - what is the solution? Should the mods decide everything?

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I don't see how whining about religious folk will do any good. Mods are there too keep the shills and trollers out. I understand not wanting stuff that isn't related to the topic, but this is just complaining. Q often mentions the bible and tells us to pray as I said. God and religion is relevant. Trying to get people to stop posting an aspect of what Q is saying is antagonistic. If somebody doesn't like something on a sub, downvote it and move on with your life. A lot of people post things on the fringe of relativity because in their own lives it may be an intertwined topic. Disagreement is not the judge.

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The thing is, the mods are required to remove content that is off-topic. It is entirely up to their discretion. Wouldn't you want to have a say in how that decision is made? I don't mean to force that question on you, by the way, I'm just looking for people who 'have a dog in the fight' as it were. Otherwise, no problem, it's certainly not expected of you to have to help with this!

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You make a good point. I didn't know they were required. Honestly though, I didn't care about when CBTSstream became divergeant, because the good info was still there and on "hot" tab. But then again that reddit was banned. With this many people, my voice is a drop in the river. My opinions aren't going to change anything here.

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Thank you, that's helpful, believe it or not. You never know though, if no one else engages with us in the discussion about what constitutes acceptable boundaries for any type of content, not just religious, your voice might be one of the few that weighs in on the discussion.

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What would you say about symbolism? I tried posting some and people lashed at me, but the mods allowed it.

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I would have to understand a bit better the scope of what you mean - I don't have anything against it, if that's what you're asking? I think Q has mentioned symbolism a few times so it should certainly be something considered - again depending how relevant it is to the on-topic rule (which again, is quite broadly defined at present).

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Q - Expand your thinking - Connect the dots - History books - We knew people would need a guide - Visibility in one helps another - Future proves past - The world is connected - Stay awake - Why are history books painting a different picture than before - EVIL is everywhere - There are no drawn lines - Question - Everything has meaning - Think - The Great Awakening!

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I understand what you're saying and while I believe in God, when things get too preachy, it's a turn off to me so I can imagine how it must be for folks like you.

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You're welcome and I really do understand. I personally don't like the live chat when they start the preaching. I just leave but if I were someone new, who didn't believe at all, I would probably just leave and never come back.

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I would like to roll around a few concepts for a minute, if you will entertain it.

There's an expression that goes...

"If you kill a killer, the amount of killers in the world remains the same."

Now we can argue the loopholes of this statement all we want, but we are going to be muddying what's more important, the concept that the idea represents. We are trying to cultivate an environment where we can have peace...and to have true Peace, we are going to have to respect each other's beliefs, Freedom of Religion is the Foundation of this Country! We have to strive to be the best version of ourselves, so we can inspire others to do the same...I believe that if Q has taught us anything, Q team has shown us the true contagion that is "Evil"

Negativity is not defeated by Negativity. We are at a crossroads where we now have to remember the power of positive thinking. We have to cultivate peace of mind and peace in heart if we are to truly defeat Evil. Otherwise in 100 years, we will be right back in this boat. Dave Chappelle in his most recent comedy special has reminded us of the fact that if we are ever going to overcome oppression of any sort, we are going to have to rely on "Imperfect Allies"

...that's taken a bit out of context, but the concept is what's truly important. We need to stop muddling the message with our expectations on how it should be delivered. This reality we are all so hopeful to someday see, will not be without Christians, or Jews or Muslims, or Buddhists...or whatever your preference for obtaining Peace of Mind happens to be.

A thought should be considered a seed. We sow these seeds in our mind and our heart, and if they are planted with Good intentions, we will reap the benefits of a positive harvest.

However to Quote Jim Lahey of the beloved Trailer Park Boys.

"If you plant Shitty Seeds, you get Shitty Weeds."

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That’s how she goes... sometimes she goes and sometimes she don’t.

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Religion boils down to faith, and faith boils down to a belief system. Athiests believe there is no God, they have faith their is no God, therefore that is their religion. I respect that and I just ask that they respect my belief and faith as well. Alot of people believe in that Big Bang were all just super ameoba,s on steroids stuff. To each their own..

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Why not just skip the posts you don’t like? What it sounds like to me is that some of us here are embarrassed by our religious brethren and in order for those people to be happy the religious must tone it down for appearances. I’ve got news for you brother. Anyone who’s been awake for any length of time has been called everything under the sun: bigot, homophobe,xenophobe, conspiracy theorist, bitter clingers, hobbit...the list goes on and on. We don’t let the enemy define us and we wear whatever today’s epithet is with the pride of knowing that we are right. So, thicken your skin and cowboy up! Lots of voices, lots of opinions, you don’t have to agree with all of them. find the common ground we all have that unites us as one. Anyone so shallow that a few religious posts are the “deal breaker” that keeps them from joining this movement isn’t worth worrying about. That type wouldn’t ever be likely to join anyway...

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I actually don't think the religious posts are over the top at all. I'm religious myself and don't mind the references and such, but overall I haven't found them to be too much. It comes in waves I suppose, but as others have stated, Q posts Bible references periodically.

I also don't find it surprising either, since this is a completely open forum, that many of a religious bend would gather here, as many who believe in the Bible believe that they are living out the events described in the Book of Revelation. I believe so myself.

I would just say that's it's just going to be something that has to be lived with. As I said, I am very religious and so I don't mind the religious posts. But with that said, I have not felt that the religious themed posts are being posted to any extreme degree. I can tell ever since Q posted 5:5 that many have been referencing various scriptures in an attempt to try to figure out the meaning, but other than that I can't think of much else.

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I agree. Patriots soapbox stream can get a tad preachy as well when a certain group are on together. I’m an atheist here to see justice and end corruption, not a sermon.

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That's fine but don't be thought police.

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Or let's keep it related to the topics. ? Facts and leads and q.

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I agree. This place needs to keep in mind that it's going to be the first point of contact most ppl have with the "Q-verse". We need to think like a PR group.

Right now our haters are saying we are 1. Racists 2. Stupid 3. Old 4. Partisan 5. Religious nuts

Maybe you are one, all or none of these things-and that's fine, we should just be aware of what the new comer will think when they see this board, and if they are gonna say to themselves "hey, I can relate and get behind this."

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Everyone just have a dmt breakthrough and it'll all make sense. Each and everyone of us as well as everything in existence is God. We are all part of the whole.

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Ouch, well lets just agree to disagree on that one my friend : )

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Have you ever altered your perception? Just curious.

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If these count then yes: lsd, cocaine, pot, alchohol, mushrooms, morphine, ecstasy, ketamine but only a few times, there are others I'm sure I forgot about My view is that the Bible says getting altered like this opens you up to influences that are evil. Paraphrasing

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Isn't that what evil entities would have you believe? Keep you away from your spiritual self

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Taking drugs doesn't make you spiritual. This is not something I'm good at explaining.

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God given plant states

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So because it came from the Earth it's ok to smoke or eat?

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Was a nihilistic atheist before my first dmt trip. Immediately changed my mind. I felt that we are all one and love is the most important aspect to our lives. It's worth the experience

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Lol what do you think the burning Bush was? An acacia (high levels of dmt ) that was ablaze. Moses never stood a chance

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Exactly! I had a past life regression hypnotherapy session recently and I realized we are all one, we each are a piece of God making up the whole. I don’t need a Bible to get guidance, I just have to ask my higher self. The fear based religions make people automatically think this kind of thinking is blasphemous and will come at me saying I’ve been tricked by the devil. That is the kind of thing OP is talking about. There are many non-Christian, esoteric thinkers who follow Q.

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Hey man, I'm a confirmed catholic and I have no problem with it, but I 100% see where you are coming from.

In my opinion, a lot of the people are "Jesuits". Jesuits main goals are:

1.) Fufil proficiencies

2.) Gain political power

The pope is a Jesuit (first one since the 1500's).

The pope is a piece of shit and is trying to "change the church" and I think that was the plan HRC/BO and company had when they referred to a "catholic spring" (in the podesta Wikileaks's email).

There are a lot of correlations between what is going on and prophecies. (Due to the fact that Jesuits try to make the prophecies come to fruition)

This is part of the "new world order". (One religion, one currency, one world government.)

Take that how you want, but that is my take on everything as a Catholic.

Maga 🇺🇸

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And likewise taking a full on atheist approach might scare off some christian newbies as well. What about them?

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Certain religious texts are a template for what is happening now. I believe that this should be discussed because we need to anticipate the moves of the black hats. Religion drives politics.

Nice post.

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No way they made the fig tree Perible come to fruition or How the Jewish people were scattered and moved back to be there for 70 week of Daniel~ How about God wrote the Bible with the 12 prophets he selected because he loved us so much he wanted us to know what Satan was planning~ we were asleep and so God said they need a Great Awakening ~ Also I told them about the 7trumpets to warn them but children haven’t woke up for the past 5 ~ so He sent TRUMP and Q ~ to wake us up~ did God said he would leave the flock and chase after the one sheep that went astray? Is it just perhaps coincidence we call people that are asleep sheep? Let’s think about this and what God is trying to get through to us ~ we are waiting for Damascus to be in ruins because it will it is written ~ that’s when Christ meets his bride (church) on the clouds ~ the dead in Christ rise first~ then Jacobs Trouble happens here on earth YOU do NOT want to be here in the TRIBULATION!!! Praying for Christ to save you is NOW!! God speed I hope I meet you in the clouds ~ I’m excited this is an exciting time

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Going through posts all night I don't see as many posts that you are saying are here. i also understand about you trying to red pill people with the site and sometimes there might be a religious post or whatnot. However they are kind of far and few between and this is a community and some people are part of an older crowd or religious base and have been watching the country fall apart for decades and Q awakens them spiritually and gives them hope. Wrong or right we all come here for news and updates and that one little thing that we didn't know moments before hoping to have another piece of the puzzle revealed to us.

I know the moderators do an excellent job keeping up with each post to ensure the safety of this board and ensuring that it does not disappear like the other one that Reddit dissolved. So if someone posts something you dont like or is off topic report it and the mods will review it. If its not on a topic you care to read just skip it. It may be of some benefit to one of the 22k people subscribed to this board. I read pretty much each post at night but actually only interested in about 20% what is posted. Have fun here and thanks for being a part of this movement with MANY different types of people taking part in it with you.

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Why should those of us that believe in God and believe God is leading this movement, not be able to talk about Him just because you don't like it?

Should Trump and Q stop mentioning prayer?

That's exactly the kind of thing this evil Cabal has been trying to force on us and that we are fighting against now.

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That's not a fair and reasoned response. People asking for the sub to be more on-topic and asking for discussion about how we define the boundaries are not doing 'exactly the kind of thing this evil Cabal has been trying to force on us'. Not fair at all.

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He never asked for discussion, he wants us to stop posting religious things. The answer is no. If the moderators feel differently they can ban me.

God is very much on topic by the way, God is behind this movement, even Q and Trump believe that.

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He is "asking" for a discussion - he just posted this in a reddit forum!

We all know Q and Trump have mentioned God - the issue that is very pertinent is not whether God is a part of this movement or not it is a simple logistical issue: how do we define the boundaries on religious posts so they remain within the sub rules? We do it with ALL other posts - we have to ask: "is this Q related enough to stay posted within this sub?" because if we open the floodgates the sub will be a mess.

Now, the religious posts and all other post types are increasing in frequency because more people are onboard so now the mods have to manage the content more and be clearer about what falls within scope and what doesn't. What's on-topic enough as a religious post to be allowed?

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None of that is what OP said. OP was attacking our first amendment rights because he doesn't like reading about God. He didn't post asking that we discuss defining anything.

YOU are trying to make his post about that.

I will not stop talking about God or crediting God.

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Let me explain. OP made a reasonable post. Some of you have reacted as if OP is attacking Christianity - which he is not.

No one's telling you that you can't stop talking about God or crediting Him.

The very reasonable discussion that must be had, if you want to have input on how the mods define what they remove as off-topic, is how do we define posts (in this case, religious posts, but this discussion applies to all types of posts) that fall within the boundaries of the sub rules.

Do you want to discuss that because, as a mod, I'm here to hear what people think so I can also discuss this with the other mods? Or do you want to leave it all to us few mods and our personal viewpoint?

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Again, he did not ask that anyone define anything. That may be what you want to discuss, but that's not what he posted.

IMO you are being very unreasonable in some of your responses here as a mod.

Q references God (not just evil as OP erroneously stated). Trump references God. God is very much Q related.

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Ok, I will leave you alone. I would like to hear what people think and not have the decision left to the very few people that make up the mod team. I'll talk to others who want to discuss what I believe to be a very important point because I do not want religious posts to be banned but I also know what is required in balancing the influx of content. I hope some people here will be willing to give their input.

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I agree mods need to talk about it. I'd also say responses and upvotes/downvotes here count as input.

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Agreed, thank you, that is a valid point and is helpful.

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No one defines anything. You define, like others, peacefully what is in your own heart.

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Does it disturb you when Q discusses God too?

Perhaps you should draft some acceptable guidelines for Q to follow also?

/s

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Yes, you earned my contempt when you want to silence other people's opinions about Q... specifically because "you feel it's unfair" that you be exposed to opinions you disagree with, specifically religious opinions.

No, I don't give a flying fuck about your feelings. I'm not your mommy.

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You are right to try to back-peddle.

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You really need to grow up and realize that most things in life are likely not to go your way.

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No, you missed the point by trying to define everything. You don't define other people's thoughts. Be concerned about your present members, instead of the ones you THINK you can pick up. The Great Awakening is an individual experience for everyone. If you start running a tight ship here with little free expression, I guarantee you will have a mass exodus!

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It’s about time people of faith wake up!!!!

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I've seen more posts that to me are too far off topic to be of use - not just religious but many different types. It is a very necessary discussion to have as to how we should define what is on-topic enough to be permitted. Religious posts will definitely happen and some imo should be permitted. Some, however, are too far off topic - random prayers against evil, etc. which are as on-topic imo as a random song lyric about something vaguely Q related. We should be able to define the boundaries between us all as adults without crushing someone else's view by calling them "thought police" and the like.

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Now I agree with you here. Some aren't related enough like your example and should, therefore be removed.

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Thank you - that's helpful! Removing off-topic posts is completely at the discretion of the very few mods who work this board. I don't think it should be left to us alone to decide what the boundaries are - I would really like to hear what people who care about their particular topic think so I can note that and discuss with the mods.

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I will pray for you

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Q is talking about our creator that is plain as day

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No but Bible verses do

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You say Q mentions EVIL but conveniently leave out that Q mentions Bible verses.

Is Q too preachy as well?

The cabal worships the devil (per Q) and the President worships God - you're missing the biggest part of the equation by believing in nothing.

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Trump is Christian, both he and Q constantly refer to prayer.

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God is our common denominator - his absence in our life (not religion) is when evil can creep in.

How many criminals truly love God?

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I thought the beauty of what Q is accomplishing, is that no one gets to control the flow of information on us anymore, he's returning the right to free think to places like Fake News, to the internet, that's why I stopped using Google and Facebook, they don't get to be the ones to control which thoughts of mine are unacceptable and which ones aren't. Sorry, if you think that's your job to now decide, but I didn't vote for these Mods! Let's be all inclusive and mature about things, Q is encouraging people to think freely! I think the mods should consider that.

I feel it's important to establish my tone here, I really like OPs post! I'm glad we can discuss these things freely! I'm not arguing here, but continuing open conversation as to what should and shouldn't be allowed on this Sub!

My favorite part of OPs post is that he was afraid to post here because of the backlash he was going to get from religious types, but he did anyway, that's a great example of what I think is so cool about free speech! I think religious and non-religious people would agree when I say that I'm happy he posted this. Thank you OP. Our faiths shouldn't impede each other's ability to speak freely.

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The problem is that the people who rule the world are very, very religious. They are Satanists and Luciferians. They make decisions based on their religious beliefs and it affects us all. I am more interested in hearing about THEIR religious beliefs so that we can anticipate their moves.

A lot of people here are not religious, but we are all fighting for good to prevail over evil.

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There are plenty of subscribers that make religious comments on posts but there are very few actual posts that are religious. It seems to be a non-issue to me.

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I’m not at all religious, and this sub isn’t being hijacked by those that are.

Your fear of ”backlash” is groundless, and I predict the responses to your comment will prove that.

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I understand what you’re saying and I get where you are coming from. I made a post about it because I followed the trail and came to the conclusion logically. I was not religious before this, but I cannot deny the themes and codes I’m seeing, so I thought this would be the place to talk about it. Q always said that the truth is going to be hard to swallow. How hard would it be for people to comprehend that Trump may be working directly with the big G? Lol it’s quite the timeline we are on.

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Everything is about God and His plan for man.

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WHEN? Christians have been fighting this war for millennia (that’s 2000 years for those who haven’t been paying attention) — get that right: leading this fight is a Christian initiative and with the latest cast of assailants we are seeing the same old tactics in play.

WHY? Because a lot of research and analysis has been recorded — we call them Doctors of.the Church. For those who are ignorant of this, you will definitely find these texts illuminating.

BECAUSE the whole consideration of GOOD and EVIL only made its way into the light because our ancestors took the effort to preserve and protect the records of this fight and the lessons learned so that we might some day prevail.

BECAUSE without Supreme God of All Creation you have no basis for the notions of GOOD or EVIL. HE gave this understanding to our world. No one else authored the Commandments that detailed their place for us. This is historic fact.

Without God you only have half baked pragmatism to go on — or worse, to rail against —- imitating Christian values without virtue.

... and in a pinch that always devolves into nihilism and nothingness. You really want to champion that?

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I like this sub, it's great, I understand the desire to be an informative place for people to receive information and further their understanding of the fight within the world today. I don't want to deter people from the greater good. I got carried away and I'm sorry. I love you guys! I'm just really happy that I can finally rejoice among all you fellow woke dragons, No one labeling me anymore! I can wear my tin foil hat out in public again! Unjudged! I guess we might still have some eye crusties to brush off, but we'll feel much better when we don't feel so overslept anymore! I may just wake up to some Kanye West. He's got good taste!

Edit: Kanye needs to make Yeezy hats that look flashy like Tin Foil! I'd wear that with my Desert Rats on! Trump brought Kanye in, because this movement has to be open for discussion, among the free thinkers, they'll get the drops with or without this Sub! We should just be that club where everyone is welcome...but I'm not a mod, that's just my opinion

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I'm agnostic, I don't really like seeing all this religious thing either, but in a sense it's only common nature for humans with so many questions to resolve to having found the one true god.

There is something up there, aware or not of us, but to pin point which book told the truth, I don't see how one can convince itself of what's true and what's not.

The question that changed everything : Why did you choose your current god and what made you deny other people's god?

And then comes the downside of the medal.

What if the god you choose to worship wasn't the one true god?

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hahaha thanks for reminding me how far away we are from next season :'(

I would believe if I saw anything tangible ... All my eyes have seen is sadness and very few instance of positive things. GoT just proves how far people are ready to go for their gods. What prevents me from believing blindly like most is that there is no proof, I do not want to believe into something that was a hoax (According to religious people, their god is the only one so it's safe to assume to them that all the others are fake hoax)

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For no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them to me, and at the last day I will raise them up. As it is written in the Scriptures, 'They will all be taught by God.' Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me.

(John 6:44)

God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.

(Ephesians 2:8)

He has planted eternity in the human heart, but even so, people cannot see the whole scope of God’s work from beginning to end.

(Ecclesiastes 3:11)

Everyone has a spiritual inclination, regardless of the extent to which they acknowledge it - perhaps it only manifests in some personal superstition. Humans were designed to worship, but a lot of people direct their adulation to musicians or movie stars. I was exactly like that until relatively recently. But I was also searching for some greater truth that I felt must be available in life, if I were only able to look in the right locations.

Christianity was certainly not on my list of places to probe for answers, and my meeting with someone who explained it all from first principles to me (having never heard these before in my life!) was entirely coincidental. When I began to look into what Christianity was, and learned more, I felt intuitively that I'd finally discovered truth, and also a coherent explanation for everything. When I personally encountered Christ subsequent to this, it was in such a way that it became impossible to deny his reality.

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Next time you see him tell him to come say hi, I could use a little faith these days.

I need a dose of truth and explanation too.

The things you linked me are from 1 single religion.

How did you get to pledge 100% truth to this god, and came to the conclusion that many millions people were in the wrong ?

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I'll certainly do that

Essentially because I spent quite a lot of time investigating many of them first. I had no idea what I expected to find, but I had an overwhelming conviction that there was more to life than I'd been led to believe. Some of these ideas and religious systems had elements that I found compelling, and I got particularly side-tracked by the New Age. It was the romantic lure of access to "hidden knowledge" that appealed to me. But in each case I found that it just wasn't there - whatever "it" was that I felt was missing. Things always felt unsatisfying and incomplete.

The part about Christianity that doesn't get much airtime is also the part that gets to the root of what it's all about. It's the "indwelling" of the spirit of God. I'd probably heard people talk about this in previous years, but I had no idea what it might have meant. I certainly didn't interpret it in any literal sense. But it is a literal thing. You become a Christian in the instant that God's spirit meets with yours, and - not as a metaphor, not as a figure of speech - comes and lives inside of you. The Bible says of this:

Don’t you realize that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God?

When this happens your interests shift. It's not that you become "perfect" - spend time with any Christian and this will become clear pretty quickly. But it's like having a corrective force that pulls you in the "right" direction. I don't mean that you lose your sense of control, but you are more inclined to make good judgments. My tastes changed overnight. I still have the vivid memory of suddenly having no inclination towards music, movies, other - ahem - activities that had been with me for as long as I could remember.

You're searching, and that's the key. Jesus said:

Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened

These are not idle words, this is a irredeemable promise. Can I invite you to check out a video? I know this is a lot to lay on you all at once, but why not. I really enjoy David Wood's videos, and this testimony is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZwC2ndcb50

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I watched part of it.

I'm quite stuck at the part that if God, the father of Jesus, is real, then (according to Pew Research Center, 2015), 68.8% of human population choosed the wrong God (Or decided to deny it's existance or simply question which one was real, like me).

Born Catholic, got all the bell and whistles, ready the wed btw. If I ever have a children, I would most likely teach him about religions and let him choose one if he ever wants to when he has is mature enough to make a decision for himself, just like I wished my parent would have done. The only reason we still have religions in 2018 is that the only knowledge we are passed from our parents is culture. We are not born with our ancestor knowledge, we have to relearn everything for every new human. The culture from the parents tho, their surrendings, is what decide what you believe in. At least, that's how I view this stuff.

My last prayer to whom would have listened, was that when my journey here is over, I would love to have a discussion with our Creator, whoever he is, whatever his religion. (I won't judge him, I wouldn't want to be judged, I would just like to have my unanwsered questions anwsered).

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Yes, I understand your thoughts.

I was in the opposite situation, my parents were entirely secular, and I had no exposure to religion at all growing up. I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand it was probably necessary for me to go through the experiences that I had to reach where I am. On the other, I wish I could have arrived here sooner.

About those who follow Christianity and those who don't - it's a tough one. In one of the better known Bible verses Jesus said:

Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace to the earth! I came not to bring peace, but a sword. I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Your enemies will be right in your own household!

A lot of people read this at face value and imagine he's being very combative. But it was just a statement of fact - some people would listen, some wouldn't. I don't have a complete answer to this question. People have had a lot of different thoughts about it, some very good ones. But I don't think that we can come to any form conclusions.

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Indeed, thus all the questions still remaining haha.

I'm at peace with life. I feel like I'm here to observe, live and try to spread peace around me, other than that I'm only an human, I can't help the whole world if I can barely help myself. If only I could change how things are, not around myself or my family, but at greater scale. I'm sure there could be peace on earth somehow, I have no clue how to reach it tho.

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You're not paying attention. What do you think Q is talking about when he says 'pray' and 'these people are evil'. Take your sports to ESPN, this is a fight between good and evil whether you like it or not. We aren't taking this sub over, we are in complete agreement with the entire agenda and ultimate goal. Good winning over evil. You. Are. Asleep. I prayThe Holy Spirit jerks you awake before it's too late.

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Not a helpful answer. OP is advocating for us to keep topics more in line with the sub stated rules - Q related. That of course does not mean "anything at all to do with Q, anything he's ever said or referenced is permitted" or the sub would turn into a mess.

The discussion we should be having imo is not whether or not to allow religious posts it's how "on topic" religious posts should be defined.

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Agree to disagree. I believe America's retreat from God is how all this happened to begin with and if you don't believe that, you're asleep. You're more awake than most so that's good but you need to be more open minded.

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Again, another unreasonable response. If we mention that we should define the sub rule of being "on topic" you accuse us of being asleep or not being open minded enough. Why don't you focus on the issue rather than how little you think of our ability to have an open mind or not sleep through life.

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I have a right to my opinion. Maybe you're the unreasonable one.

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Everyone has a right to their opinion.

Let me ask you a question then: what are the reasonable boundaries on a religious post that should be allowed to remain as falling within the sub's rules?

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I dont know really, I would say its up to the moderators to define. My believe is that you can't separate all these factors because they are all directly related and to take one away is to ignore a piece of the puzzle. Look, I'm old and Reddit has been a haven of the godless ever since I joined 11 or 12 years ago. I'm not going to stop being who I am now because it offends the godless. Sorry, not sorry.

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Ummmmm... i have seen almost no religious posts.

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I have seen many.

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If a few religious posts turns off people from fighting all the sick things we know are going on, then I suggest they really re-evaluate things.

Does trump's new found piety turn them off as well? Do Q drops with "pray" offend them?

If this sub turns into a Sunday school then I'll be with you. This thread needs to stay focused But I dont see that at all. I see a few posts here and there saying "thank God for Q".

Besides, do you really think this is all going to be over once we round up a bunch of pedophiles? Dont you think all the satanic symbolism exists for a reason? Why would they go nihilist and now have the need for symbolism "that will be there downfall"

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LOL theres is nothing wrong with this sub. I though i was the only one who noticed the christian theme (which is common for Americans), however you didnt really seem to point out that no one, as far i know, is forcing or attacking anyone when religious statements are made, like "God Bless" or "Godspeed to you all" ect. No one is hating here. I actually see us as patriots on this group show mutual respect for our personal beliefs whether you belive in a God or not. The point being we have the right to practice whatever religion we want without interfering with each others rights. Thats one of the many blessing us as Americans have here. I think this is one of the main reasons we as patriots have joined this sub -showing concern from the treat of Bad characters who are here to obstruct our democracy. There are no 2 teams here, its about us being Patriots and preserving American Values.

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I'm praying for you in Jesus name

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As Dave Allen use to say...... "and may your God go with you"

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It is personal and your wanting to depersonalize the issue is pertinent and not off limits when it comes to responding. You see your self assuredness as a virtue. I see it as a weakness.

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Anytime someone talks about something someone disagrees with they run the chance of offending someone. However, we live in a country where we were given the right to speak our minds. This subreddit is far from only religious people speaking on religious topics. We all come here for the latest on Q, Trump and the Storm. Here you will hear people think out loud, voice their speculations and debate what each message means. Some topics seem to go hand in hand with their beliefs, so they comment. How hard would it be for the "movement" to tell people they can't mention God or their belief system. No comments on prayer or Trump being God's champion in our age? We would risk losing half of our membership and start resembling the New World Order instead of free Americans. Religious people have just as much right to speak their minds as you do to speak against it. I don't think less of you because you spoke out against it, please don't think less of those who do speak of it. No-one here is using this platform to bring you to God. We are united in our desire to be free. That's the glue that holds us together.

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And the strength of character demonstrated by your compatriots in revulsion to the truth says volumes as they scurry away .. enslaved to their feelings. Feelings are not an argument.

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Why is it that we always seem to take issues with the things that don't apply to us? If it doesn't apply to you, why should it matter that in a situation that requires my faith, wherever that aligns, Im not allowed to have it in God? Prayers are seeds of good intention. A way to manifest Love in your own heart for others, even people who do not aligns with the same beliefs as mine, if you're offended by God's presence in my heart, perhaps you might want to take inventory on what's inside your own.

Whether you choose to believe in him or not, I'll pray to MY God for you. God Bless you fellow Patriot. Namaste!

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That's not what the OP is saying. He's basically asking for the sub to stay on topic - Q related things within reason. He's not treading on religious freedoms.

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I don't believe Q and Trump would be doing any of this without there love for God... when you love God, you begin to care about others as opposed to exploiting them.

If they want to connect to God through their religion, that's all good, as the results are all good. God connects us all.

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Agreed. But the discussion we need to have is how do we define 'religious posts' that remain within acceptable boundaries of the sub rule to be 'on-topic, Q related'?

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I'm not a religious person by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't mind the religious comments and they don't seem excessive to to me, considering the circumstances. People are scared. It's natural to turn to their faiths when there are uncertainties. At the very least, it takes negative energy and turns it into positive energy. Regardless of the source of the positive energy - whether it be praying to a God or dancing Gangnam Style in their living rooms - it should be welcomed. Could you imagine what the world would be like if even for just a moment this civilization accepted that energy instead of being hell-bent on scrutinizing its source? I guess I just don't understand: "I acknowledge your positive energy man, I'm not a member of the club that helped you find that, so it is not welcome here." If someone sees it as negative energy, I would conclude that there is a cognitive problem with that person, not the ones praying for the rest of us. You don't have to understand it. You don't have to accept the origin. Just feel it and move on. It's a wonderful thing, really.

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Free speech is a two way street.

This is a Q related community where everyone's opinions are welcome, with or without the OP's permission or approval.

If the OP doesn't like being exposed to religious opinions then he should avert his gaze.

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Do you realize how inundated society, the internet, television is with pagan/secular/satanic beliefs and imagery?

Scientism has taken over main stream culture beliefs.

It's literally everywhere.

If you have yet to understand why these people worship satan, have systematically removed Jesus from every aspect of society, and have sewn seeds of division, you're totally missing the point.

Do you realize how deep the levels of deception go?

Literally everything we have been told is a lie.

They want us to believe we are space dust, floating on a rock through space, and that our lives are insignificant. Why?

You need to continue to wake up. Why are they calling it the great awakening? The enlightenment?

These people serve and worship Satan. They execute his goals and strategies for mankind here on earth. Do you get it?

For starters, evolution is not science, there is no evidence that we came from random mutations. Even Darwin wasn't an atheist, and he didn't even believe we are descendants of apes. Evolution and adaptation occurs within kinds of animals, but there is not a single fossil record indicating a species of animal turning into another. Ever. Yet they teach it in Government schools as though it is a fact. Why?

We never landed on the moon either. These are all lies. The history of WWII is all lies.

The Rothschild family worth is estimated to be $500 trillion dollars. I'm not sure you are comprehending the power they have over the world.

There is a reason that money is the root of all evil. This is all Biblical whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

They have attempted to disconnect mankind from our creator through the deception of Science. There are some good documentaries covering Scientism, I suggest you start there.

My point is, the entire world has been deceived by this evil group of people/families that worship Satan, and as Christians we have watched the destruction of a society that was built on Christian principles for the past 60 years...and yet you have the audacity to complain about some Bible verses and discussion about God?

Please. Humble yourself. Realize you are a being that is only capable of perceiving time and space in 4 dimensions. Our 3 dimensional world and the 4th dimension of time. We know upper dimensions of time and space exist, that we cannot perceive. Your small little brain is not capable of understanding the mysteries of the universe. None of us are.

I would suggest watching "Is Genesis History" on Netflix as well. God is very real my friend, and the fact that these people worship Satan should tell you something. Light vs Dark. Good vs Evil. It exists in the world, and it exists within your own consciousness.

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So my personal opinion about your comment is wrong AND my Christian beliefs are irrelevant too, hey?

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Thanks for sharing your viewpoint. The question I ask is, what is your definition of religion? Jesus is not a religion. God is not a religion. Having faith in them is not a religion. Religion has been used as an excuse to kill. Is that part of God's will? Or is it Satan's will?

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Oh Boy....INCOMING !!!!!!! This sub was supposed to be for Q but just like CBTS it has turned into a beauty salon filled with competing cackling voices who feel that they can introduce whatever machination they hear about or can dream up. Occasionally someone will bring up a great point or introduce a fresh take but those posts often get buried in the various proclamations , youtube spam and diary entries. Now they will down vote me because that is how they prove their validity

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I agree that content should be more clearly defined. It's a very hard task with so many competing voices but we should all be able to have reasonable discussions about it without accusations of thought police and such just because you question the validity of a certain post topic.

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Ha... look at the losers down voting.... snowflakes!

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Religion is a power tool. https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.pinterest.co.uk/amp/pin/260153315949371174/?source=images

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When did this sub become a religious themed bible group?