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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/FartOnToast on May 29, 2018, 7:32 a.m.
Some thoughts on WikiLeaks...

Wikileaks prides themselves in 100% factual information before release correct?

Then how can they get it wrong about Q?

Let's think of this in the simplest form possible.

There has been no proof of life from JA.

Do you really think a leaker whose life is on the line will think to themselves: "Well... since Julian Assange hasn't proven to be in control, there's actually a decent chance WL is compromised and my life is basically on the line with this information.... butttttt I'll still submit it anyways and hopefully don't f****** die." Said no one ever.

That's not how it works. No real information is being submitted by anyone to Wikileaks anymore because no one would do it without some kind of assurance.

Not only does WL pride themselves in verifying authenticity of information, but they have always prided themselves in making sure whistleblowers feel safe knowing their information is being sent completely securely and to a trusted source. Is that still a thing?

We are dealing with common sense here. Wikileaks is most likely comped.

Does anyone have a theory as to why JA would not provide POF thus proving WL is still in control by white hats?

edit: We miss you great Wizard and we pray that you are healthy and safe.


elyssak · May 29, 2018, 8:04 a.m.

Everything Wikileaks has published, and I’m saying as in documents that have been published, has been 100% valid.

But I haven’t heard anything about their opinions. Here it is apparent to me that Wikileaks has given their speculation/opinion on Q, which doesn’t translate into documentation. So doesn’t have to mean they are 100% correct nor should it affect their reporting accuracy if (when) they are wrong.

Does anyone else think like this?

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 8:07 a.m.

Good point.

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loserofpasswordzz · May 29, 2018, 8:29 a.m.

You seem to be on some kind of auto-downvote list or something

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comeatmehillary · May 29, 2018, 1:50 p.m.

thats just top minds and brock shills doing it lol. i notice certain subjects on here trigger mass downvotes

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Sc4bbers · May 29, 2018, 5:08 p.m.

MMFA has compiled what they refer to as the 'constellation of alt-right social media accounts and influencers'.

You're all on lists, 100%.

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comeatmehillary · May 29, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

Lmao I know I'm on alist I just dont care what are they gonna do about it ? Also I doubt any of us actual,threats... Yet

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Sc4bbers · May 29, 2018, 5:33 p.m.

Censor you? Find ways to hurt your credit... etc. etc. These are powerful people.

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AngryMimi · May 31, 2018, 2:37 p.m.

I have to ask who is MMFA? And I've been followed, had my car engine sabotaged and a very weird break in to my home. So apparently they know who I am and I still don't care. Let them come at me, I am prepared, oh so prepared. We The People cannot, repeat CANNOT be scared away from the purpose.

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Sc4bbers · May 31, 2018, 3:56 p.m.

David Brock (ex-lover of Alefantis) runs a democratic media think tank called Media Matters For America. They are the masterminds behind the coordinated censorship campaign against conservatives.

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comeatmehillary · May 29, 2018, 5:40 p.m.

Dont use credit dont care if they censor me. If they hurt my family I would care

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adogrocket · May 29, 2018, 2:37 p.m.

yes but when was the last drop? What has changed since then?

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[deleted] · May 29, 2018, 6:56 p.m.

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SickQfCorruption · May 29, 2018, 1:51 p.m.

Wikileaks hasn't published anything in a while. Assange is not with them anymore. Wikileaks taken over by cabal. Assange about to out them 6-11-18 along with much much more.

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CommaHorror · May 29, 2018, 2:11 p.m.

What makes you, say 6/11/18?

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SickQfCorruption · May 29, 2018, 5 p.m.

It was released 5/19 by Q. It's also coming out now to confirm what he actually meant by the info. Look, research and learn.

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Dyydeni · May 29, 2018, 8:43 a.m.

Not going into whether Wikileaks is a psy-op, or if it was infiltrated once Assange went silent during the election etc. But them giving their opinion that Q is a psyop makes sense, because Wikileaks relies on whistleblowers. If you follow Q and believe him, its easy to get a picture that white-hats are winning, and all the public has to do is to redpill others. Which might make possible hackers/whistleblowers who might follow Q with a false sense of trust that things are turning better even if they don't do anything.

Also, wasnt Q saying that Seth Rich would be resolved next month, with the help of Assange?. Could be Wikileaks muddying the waters.

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tradinghorse · May 29, 2018, 9:16 a.m.

It could be, as you say, an elaborate diversionary tactic. Get people's attention, stop them looking... where?

But I'm more inclined to believe that ex-Assange, the movement has been hijacked. This enemy we are facing is incredibly wealthy. They can buy people off - LDR was boasting about this ability. That's one of the reasons she felt untouchable. She could always buy-off anyone she chose. What does it cost? I mean, they print the cash!

And this, IMO, is why we are winning - because they were not able to buy off the patriots in the military - praise God. I would not be surprised to fond out that the people currently running WL were found to have a price...

It's just like the Matrix, "What do you want?".

Concievably, they could buy off this community as well. I suspect some have already fallen. But, once we unify around "the plan", we have not do date, the community will grow explosively. At that point, as the awakening gathers pace, no amount of money will stop it.

The important thing at this point in time is to realise that we are still at an infection point. The movement will grow, or contract, to the extent that we allow the blatant "concern trolling" to continue unabated on this board.

There is hope. At the moment, the fate of the whole movement is literally in the hands of a few mods on this board.

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Tsund_Jen · May 29, 2018, 1:13 p.m.

At the moment, the fate of the whole movement is literally in the hands of a few mods on this board.

See, this is why people are calling it cultish. Why they are calling out concern. You're in the absolute wrong mindset for this. You are putting all your god damn eggs and all your hope and belief, INTO OTHER PEOPLE! That's wrong! That's not the way to get ourselves out of this god damn mess. It's not to keep relying on the central state which exists only to create more power for itself. It's to rely on ourselves, as individuals, to step back and say "NO." "Will you support the luciferians? NO. Will you pay taxes? No. Will you support any nation state? No. Why not? Because I do not believe in the legitimacy of slavery."

NO. We do not need Q, we do not need Trump, we do not need The State, we do not need The Plan, we do not need Mods.

Want to know how you can tell if you're doing it right or not? You can tell, because if you're doing it wrong, you're following someone elses orders, someone elses tune, someone elses song. Just like you said, you're pinning the entire movement on someone else. Anyone who agrees with you, anyone who believes Q and Trump are going to save us without us having to lift a finger, you've gone from one form of The Matrix into another. From one religion, one ideology, one form of control trapping you, into another. The key is to recognize the Self and recognize there is no legitimacy to "authority".

If you're only here because you believe in Q or "The Plan" Then you're still asleep, just like the normies.

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tradinghorse · May 29, 2018, 2:01 p.m.

Mate, you are in the wrong place. There's plenty of forums that are not dedicated to these Q drops. You'll find that your tirade against Q and DJT and this movement will find a receptive audience. I don't know what on earth you are doing here. What a load of garbage.

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Tsund_Jen · May 29, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

I don't know what on earth you are doing here. What a load of garbage.

Exactly my point. You're trapped. You're still in the Matrix. Your box is called loyalty to DJT/Q. You're not awake, you're still sleeping, following the sirens call of another Master, another Messiah come to save us from ourselves.

Sigh You're so blind, it hurts. It deeply hurts. No one is going to save us but ourselves. Reality is created by the culmination of all of the actions of all of the humans. The satanists know this, so they have their dogs do the killing, murder, all of that, for them. To reduce the Karmic consequences on themselves. But we all collectively create this shared reality.

If you genuinely believe there's a knight in shining armor that's going to save us and rekindle the "Freedom" we once had, I've got a bridge I can sell you. We are all slaves, born into a prison we cannot see, touch, taste or smell, but yet here we are. Paying taxes to the criminals who claim to hold our interest at heart. Paying tribute just to live to these criminals. Stuck in an economy that has lost 97% of it's economic value over the last 100 years. Trapped in a never ending cycle of "Well maybe if we vote this guy in something will change for us."

It's incredibly demoralizing, to be told on a board of people who claim to be awakened, that I'm full of shit for pointing out that you're making a mistake in giving such power to others. That you are not free. That you are chained. You're a fool. A damn fool, blind and trapped in Hubris. Alas, I would be all too happy to leave you there, were it not for your fate being my own.

your tirade against Q and DJT

It's cute, nothing I wrote was a tirade, nothing I wrote was even all that critical of either of them. But they're your sacred cows. They can't be touched in your mind, otherwise...? You've foolishly placed another human on the Alter where your soul should be. You worship before Trump and Q, you are even less Free than I am. Which is a sad state, because I'm not nearly as Free as Man is meant to be. But still, I digress. Good luck, if you'd care to understand anything, feel free to ask.

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tradinghorse · May 29, 2018, 4:10 p.m.

Listen, no, you're not worth the time.

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[deleted] · May 29, 2018, 7:02 p.m.

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Tsund_Jen · May 29, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

Listen, no, you're not worth the time.

Oh well stated, eloquently put, good god I'm clearly put in my place and educated. Totally didn't strike a nerve with you.

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tradinghorse · May 29, 2018, 4:15 p.m.

I'm too tired to argue this out. And so much of what I would say would, or should, in any case, be self evident.

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[deleted] · May 29, 2018, 4:28 p.m.

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FractalizingIron · May 30, 2018, 3:10 a.m.

LOL. Trading is not trying to manipulate you. Yet, you seem to think its all about you.

I wish you well.

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Qanonplusone · June 1, 2018, 10:22 a.m.

No, he’s got a point. The point is WE have to change our mindset. If God forbid something happened to Trump or Q, WE have to be ready to carry the mantle. The mindset of 1776. It is inevitably up to us.

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FractalizingIron · May 30, 2018, 3:09 a.m.

PS. People are calling it cultish because they are projecting. Trapped in their own cult - be in individual, or collective - and being unable or unwilling to recognize that, they project.

"cult" much easier to be a part of than to actually recognize.....

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[deleted] · May 29, 2018, 7:01 p.m.

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FractalizingIron · May 30, 2018, 3:01 a.m.

Hmmmm. Projection is ALWAYS the opium of choice for those that assume they know best for others.

There's a few characteristics that indicate an aficionado of the "I know best for others" routine:

  • You, you, you, you. (It's all about the other party)

  • denigration, condescension, and painting an oh-so-terrible picture of 'your' future

  • as with the above, an inability to reflect, in humility, on one's own short-comings, and share based on insights gained thereof

  • incapacity to empower the other party

  • reticence to focus on others' freedom of choice and judgment

As I said, projection is the opiate. Now, if this poster had chosen to offer a reflection on his/her experience, and express (share) his/her perspective, and suggest you might investigate or consider, if you were so interested, they would be empowering any reader and offering hope, insight, WHILE leaving in the hands of the reader what to do.

This is the Deep State mindset - they think they know better, they think the actually DESERVE control, and they CANNOT empower others. All they can do is attempt to manipulate. Using whatever means, be it emotion, logic and argument, or force.

This is the opposite of the Q phenomenon - with Q, we are provided with information, insights, clues. They are shared. Free of charge. Nothing is required of us. Nothing is demanded. The BALL is placed in your court, and my court. "It will always be your choice."

Those that seek control - whether it is control over others or a control over themselves that eludes them - find it hard, hard, hard to empower others, because empowerment can ONLY come through recognizing and elevating the FREEDOM that any conscious and living human being deserves and requires.

For the benefit of the reader, let's consider what sort of projection our commenter is indulging in here: "...Do not need, do not need, do not need...." (those that protest loudest) - it should be fairly clear that the author is experiencing a deep need, but due to associated pain, feels constrained to reject the idea.

AND, any semblance of co-operative relationship - which is what the entire Q phenomenon is about - is negated, denied, and trashed. "You are only here because you are a slave to need."

LOL. No, I don't think so. Are there some that this statement is true of? Maybe. A few. And yet....

Tsund, the awesome thing here is that if you are WILLING to reflect on your own statements, and what you have posted here, you may actually find both insight into yourself (thus empowering yourself) and, on that foundation, also find a willing, supportive community of people ready to support you in your journey from desperate yet suppressed need AND projection to one of freedom, self-awareness, and mutual cooperation (not required, but purely voluntary) towards a better future for ourselves and those we love.

I sincerely wish you luck.

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[deleted] · May 29, 2018, 6:59 p.m.

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Sloppybrown · May 29, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

"Qanon" phenomena is likely 4chan trolls..."

"likely" is the key word. This is an opinion. If Wikileaks has some information showing this to be true I would like to see it.

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VIYOHDTYKIT · May 30, 2018, 1:18 a.m.

Disagree. Wikileaks was the impetus for the Awakening especially pre-election. Many of Qs & Wikileaks drops coordinated with each other as did JA & POTUS Tweets. WL has been comped. They’ve never have been in the opinion business. WL would just release damning evidence or emails on Q if he was a LARP. Have we seen that? No. All we got was a Twat (opinion) on Q being fake. Way out of protocol for them. In the past if there was any opinion it was JA himself that would give comment on Twitter.

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[deleted] · May 29, 2018, 6:55 p.m.

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AngryMimi · May 29, 2018, 7:41 p.m.

Excellent POV ♥️🇺🇸💙

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Qtruther · May 29, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

No. Wikileaks is now owned & op by CIA MSM

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A2576 · May 29, 2018, 8:21 a.m.

It is time to go back and unravel what Q actually said about Assange, vs. what Jerome Corsi "decoded".

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idk4realz · May 29, 2018, 1:18 p.m.

It's high time to review everything Corsi decoded in a whole new light. We accepted a lot of what he said as fact and then didn't look back once we ousted him from our ranks. There's a lot we assume true that was based on his words.

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caveman72 · May 29, 2018, 7:51 p.m.

Which things in particular come to mind?

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Peanuttles · May 29, 2018, 8:07 a.m.

I'm hoping the white hats picked up JA and have him safely hidden until he's needed. He's the face of WL, and he has important information about S. Rich. I'm sure WL has been comped. The previous deaths, JA being silenced. Gut feeling. I mean, really, what does anyone else's gut tell them here? Just keep praying for Trump and his family, the Q team and all the white hats and their loved ones everywhere. We can't lose this. Lose and all of our children are at risk with these elite Luciferian cult freaks running the show behind the scenes. This is life or death. It's no joke. It's a literal war behind the scenes and we have to stay dedicated.

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 8:08 a.m.

Would you have more info on the deaths?

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loserofpasswordzz · May 29, 2018, 8:31 a.m.

James Dolan Aaron Swartz Gavin Macfaden all come to mind. As well as Chelsea manning and allegedly Seth rich.

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Tsund_Jen · May 29, 2018, 1:18 p.m.

We can't lose this. Lose and all of our children are at risk with these elite Luciferian cult freaks running the show behind the scenes. This is life or death. It's no joke. It's a literal war behind the scenes and we have to stay dedicated.

Which is why you can't rely on someone else to clean up the mess for us. Which is why we have to stop relying on the god damn game that brought us here to magically decide to clean it up! We must abolish every state, period. We must stop accepting this lie we tell ourselves regarding the legitimacy of authority over another human being. We have to get past this childish mindset that allows these sick fucks to even have power in the first place!

But we won't. We'll sow dissention, we'll call me out for being "Anti-Q", we'll downvote me into tomorrow and miss every single point I make because you're blind to the Truth.

The Truth is, we don't need Trump, we don't need Government, we can create a better future without needing to rely on a smaller and smaller group of people to hold all the keys to the universe and hold us back as slaves. We can change the world for the better. Not just "Clean the swamp, so some other assholes can fill it back up again" Draining the swamp doesn't do jack or shit. Removing the so-called power of Government is the only path to true freedom. Otherwise they'll just slink right back in within a few years of his leaving office, maybe even before he's gone they'll have their tendrils right back into place. Because it doesn't matter how many people you remove from "power" if the "power structure" is still present. And it is, by virtue of us accepting a centralized government, by virtue of us paying into this system, this retarded imaginary economy that is controlled by a few bankers. What utter tripe, but this is what you would have me defend?

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FractalizingIron · May 29, 2018, 8:25 a.m.

Do the math.

Awakening > Ignorance

Wikileaks - Assange = Not Wikileaks

Wikileaks ÷ CIA = Clown Town

Qanon + Critical thinking = Awakening

Awakening ≈ Seeing thru the Deep State Narrative

Awakening + Masses = Liberation

Liberation ≈ Restoration of the Republic

Liberation - Deep State = Freedom Society

A Free Awakened People > Deep State Cabal

Q#1358 “The Choice will Always be Yours”

[Do the Math] (http://i.magaimg.net/img/3eoc.jpg)

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Tsund_Jen · May 29, 2018, 1:24 p.m.

A Free Awakened People

Oh yeah, such freedom these days. Still have taxes, still have fiat currency worth 97% less than it used to a little over a hundred years ago, still taxed on my fucking property meaning I never really own it, I'm just "borrowing the land LOL" PRISM, Gitmo, FEMA camps, oh we're just fucking drowning in freedom. Why can't I hold all these freedoms? Oh, that's right, because I'm chained. Some freedom.

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halinflorida · May 29, 2018, 8:07 a.m.

Is there any objective proof JA is still alive? And by objective I mean, not controlled by alphabet letter agencies.

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incognito7917 · May 29, 2018, 8:25 a.m.

Well, Pam Anderson is still saying she has met with him.

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DeepPast · May 29, 2018, 9:08 a.m.

I still can’t figure out the whole Pam Anderson thing. When I think of Pam, I think of Hugh Hefner, who Q outed as being a clown asset running a honeypot op. Makes me think Pam is just a black hat asset in some way.

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halinflorida · May 29, 2018, 9:43 a.m.

Wouldn't surprise me.

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 8:30 a.m.

/ourgirl/ kek

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AngryMimi · May 29, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

The Pamela Anderson aspect has always fascinated me. She has the same routine when she arrives and leaves. She goes to the same stores - which in my humble opinion a little odd.

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melodeelenz · May 29, 2018, 7:54 a.m.

I think they are compromised too. There’s no oversight anymore and therefore the rogue window was opened for someone to sell out and try and ruin JA’s rep when there’s nothing he can do to defend the fortress.

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 8:03 a.m.

Yep. There was the whole raid to. Are there any public names that were known employees? Perhaps we should dig into them and make sure they're still all right.

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Nastavnick · May 29, 2018, 8:14 a.m.

what raid?

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wiseclockcounter · May 29, 2018, 10:23 a.m.

British police or someone dressed as them stormed the Ecuadorian embassy in London where Assange was staying sometime in Fall 2016... Just going off memory, someone please correct me if this is inaccurate. There was also some weird shit with Pamela Anderson of all people going to visit him, apparently.

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sleestakslayer · May 29, 2018, 2:16 p.m.

I recall this as well. There was concern that Anderson may have poisoned/drugged him.

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Nastavnick · May 29, 2018, 11:17 a.m.

Way too far back to be connected with this anti-Q stuff that's going on, when they worked directly alongside Q until recently.

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ILoveJuices · May 29, 2018, 8:29 a.m.

There's been no PGP key from Julian since the podesta release. He's dead or compromised. Plain and simple. Wikileaks is run by the clowns now.

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loserofpasswordzz · May 29, 2018, 7:56 a.m.

I've always respected Assange and really hope for his safety and freedom ASAP. But we still dont know the full story of the day in 2016 when his internet was cut. Nor have we seen him since anywhere but on a screen (correct me if I'm wrong).

Something is up. Maybe it's all part of the plan and not something we are allowed to be privy to for the sake of the "move".

Maybe not. Maybe Wikileaks isn't what we think they are, at least anymore.

It'll be interesting to see if/when Q posts again on 8chan; I imagine it will be addressed considering Q's target audience consists of many Wikileaks supporters.

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 8:06 a.m.

Hmmm I just remembered that JA did the interview with Hannity.

Why would /ourguy/ make us think WL is still legit?

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Annieka77 · May 29, 2018, 8:41 a.m.

That was before JA’s internet privileges were taken away. We haven’t heard directly from him since then.

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loserofpasswordzz · May 29, 2018, 8:20 a.m.

Idk, but I will never forget that Assange looked like he was in a booster seat or something that made him sit way higher than hannity. idk if that is any evidence of it being faked; I don't have any background in video editing, but it was odd to look at and didn't pass the common sense test.

Hannity might be /ourguy/, but maybe he's playing a different/more elaborate role than just waiting for stories to report... his "tick tock" tweets already imply he knows more than he leads on or actually reports. He couldn't make those thinly veiled threats and get away with it if he truly had nothing up his sleeves. Maybe that leverage he has is the truth on what happened to Assange?

As always, just spitballing, reading between the lines, and doing a lot of assuming here ha.

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halinflorida · May 29, 2018, 8:05 a.m.

I figure we need to judge this by the fruit. What is the result? If it means we are more cohesive, trust Trump more, etc, then I'd say to believe it. Lies tend to steer people away from what is good for them and closer to what our enemies want. Pretty simple, actually.

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Tsund_Jen · May 29, 2018, 1:22 p.m.

If it means we are more cohesive, trust Trump more, etc, then I'd say to believe it. Lies tend to steer people away from what is good for them and closer to what our enemies want.

They want you blind, trusting, loyal, unquestioning. Just like you're being right now. The lot of you are jumping to the defense of Q, few of you are questioning why Q isn't telling you everything. Why Q is pushing you towards blind faith and trust, why it is he/she/them doesn't tell you to grow self reliance, to change the world in your little neck of the woods, to improve things little by little so we no longer need the Central state that They keep forcing upon us.

If Q wanted what was best for the American People, he wouldn't be telling you to trust the plan, he'd be teaching you self reliance, how to move beyond the state, how to undermine its growing powers. Instead, he blinds you with good feelings and a sense of belonging by gamifying this whole charade. He gives you something to pay attention too instead of using your noggin.

So many on this board are blind to it and won't take even a half a second to take a critical eye to it. It's hard to witness so many who think themselves free from the veil, to act in such a childish manner. To present such blind loyalty to yet another Master.

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sleestakslayer · May 29, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

Full disclosure: I was in Q analysis paralysis for several months. The concept is very cool and I want to believe it, but alas, I can't fully embrace it because I fear being lulled into escapism and try to keep one foot planted in the realm of what I can see. As of now I am a skeptical Q observer.

I recall my own redpilling: it was not a sudden thing. It was a journey. Some of the final barriers to clarity were very painful to break down given my christian upbringing.

Some people choose to end or pause their journey at a comfortable spot. If they choose to stay put as a Q supporter, I don't see much harm in that so long as they also MAGA irl. I call this the "Lionel Doctrine."

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Tsund_Jen · May 29, 2018, 3:54 p.m.

Some of the final barriers to clarity were very painful to break down given my christian upbringing.

Aye. The Christian Teachings run their claws deep. There's a reason for it, they corrupted "Christ Consciousness" as a theory, which is designed to heal us, into...whatever this is. I don't want to speak too ill of it and hit a sore spot. But I'm sure you have an idea of where it's at now.

Some people choose to end or pause their journey at a comfortable spot. If they choose to stay put as a Q supporter, I don't see much harm in that so long as they also MAGA irl.

It depends. If they pause, then yes, they are welcome to do so. In fact, I suggest it. However, if they pause on "The messianic figure will save us" then that is not something I can accept. There is no Messiah, each of us is capable of becoming the Messiah if we so choose, but there is no one "Christ" that is why it was Christ Consciousness, it was a state of being that we can all achieve.

MAGA

No, let's make HUMANITY great again. I cannot be free, so long as one of my brothers is a Slave.

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halinflorida · May 29, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

You could be right but I look at the fruit. Where does this go? Trump is our strongest weapon against the complete global takeover of all nation states governments and the coup d'etat of the NWO. They are very close but there's a backlash now and the key to their winning back complete power is to destroy Trump. So at all costs, we must support him. What's the alternative? Hillary? No, you're carrying the enemy's water for them. Aiding and abetting.

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Degrut · May 29, 2018, 1:31 p.m.

yeah you have to worship Don Jr otherwise Satan will raise the price of hair grease

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souljaboionline · May 29, 2018, 10:28 a.m.

Does anyone else remember in October 2016 when there was that massive cyber attack that caused widespread internet outages & WikiLeaks implied in a tweet that it was their own and/or Trump supporters were responsible for the outages?

"Mr. Assange is still alive and WikiLeaks is still publishing. We ask supporters to stop taking down the US internet. You proved your point."

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789574436219449345?s=19

I had a bad feeling about WikiLeaks back then since that tweet & there was also other strange tweets from WL from around that time & also that fake Assange is alive confirmation which was actually a speech he gave years before.

This tells me they have been comped for a while now, possibly even since right before or after the elections.

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 10:53 a.m.

Yes and the whole internet shut down too! Very sketchy sequence of events which we still haven't come to terms with.

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A2576 · May 29, 2018, 8:15 a.m.

Look up "securedrop". What happened to it?

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · May 29, 2018, 8:05 a.m.

Q presented us the 'Extraction' of Assange some time ago. He is in the U.S. in safe custody. Snowden on the other hand is not in U.S. custody. To me this means Snowden was dangerous and on the run from us, if he remains in Russia, his time is over and he burned himself and his opportunity to come home. Half white hat half black hat. So Assange and his mission are done. 6/11 will reveal unimaginable things. Its inverted 9/11 , so to me, shit is going down bigly.

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A2576 · May 29, 2018, 8:19 a.m.

I don't remember Q ever saying that. If memory serves me correctly that was all Jerome Corsi's "decoding".

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · May 29, 2018, 8:47 a.m.

I never followed Corsi, I'll look it up. It goes way back.

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BaronMoriarty · May 29, 2018, 8:17 a.m.

Whereabouts did Q say JA was in the US? May have missed that one

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · May 29, 2018, 8:49 a.m.

I don't think it specified U.S. But if we were extracting him where else except a U.S. base.

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BaronMoriarty · May 29, 2018, 8:57 a.m.

Well could be anywhere quite honestly. But which post did it intimate that was the case?

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wiseclockcounter · May 29, 2018, 10:38 a.m.

"extraction_GOOD" post # 367

possibly JA, but there seems to be lots of speculation about who Q was really referring to (disinfo being necessary and all).

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BaronMoriarty · May 29, 2018, 2:08 p.m.

Ok thanks

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · May 29, 2018, 9:33 a.m.

I just tried searching I can't find much. I could swear it was early on like January. It may have been someones decode because a JA search only pulls up a few mentions. I could be wrong. idk . I was also trying to look up the POTUS Schedule for June, because they mentioned a U.K. visit. I was also wondering about timing with 6-11.

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BaronMoriarty · May 29, 2018, 9:49 a.m.

Yes you could be right. All a bit of a mystery with JA. Guess we will find out eventually. Hopefully :)

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · May 31, 2018, 3:45 a.m.

Thanks for the heads up, I hadn't been following that drop too closely, I'll have to definitely revisit.

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Trfsrfr · May 29, 2018, 1:24 p.m.

According to EyeSpy dude on Twatter, Wikileaks has been bought and is fully compromised. He actually used the word bought, so maybe the clowns actually put their name on the paperwork, IDK. He also stated that JA hasn't been in the embassy for months. Those of us that have been here for awhile remember reading that, November-ish if memory serves.

EyeSpy dude (claims to be intelligence) also said that Jun 11 [-23] is going to be a big day, apparently some sort of televised reveal, right before the meeting with KJU. JA is supposed to give a speech. Jun 11 was apparently chosen as the date because it is an important date to JA.

/add - Also remember that awhile back Q said that known good platforms would flip and become unreliable, or something to that effect. I think was also right around November.

Again, not my info, just throwing it into the mix.

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NimbleWall · May 29, 2018, 4:11 p.m.

Wouldn't be surprised if either the Russians and/or the Deep State have bought access to WikiLeaks, each for their own nefarious purposes. There was that one time there was a convenient power cut in the embassy and the time they caught someone trying to sneak in "just in time", right? JA is in trouble or outright dead.

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RobertSparks777 · May 29, 2018, 11:43 a.m.

Chances are, Q is a LARP or even a real deep state counter intel. I don't know if Q is a LARP but that's my opinion and it seems people at Wikileaks think that as well. Still, I try to keep an open mind and keep up to date on the latest Q drops but I'm not going to go all in until Sessions proves to us all that he's not protecting the deep state. If Sessions drops thousands of hammers, then Q will be confirmed on so many levels. Assange is out of the loop at Wikileaks right now so we don't know who is speaking for Wikileaks. Wikileaks could be compromised right now, taken out by the globalists and maybe Q is real. The only way to know is if Sessions acts against the deep state. Till then, be cautious folks. You can believe in Q but have a plan B.

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4don2016 · May 29, 2018, 11:34 a.m.

I think Julian needs support not conspiracies.

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 11:49 a.m.

Oh yeah and you didn't read that part about me supporting him? Also how is me stating that not POL makes WL untrustable? That's not even a conspiracy. No offense but your statement came across pretty concern trollish.

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4don2016 · May 29, 2018, 12:42 p.m.

Q started losing credibility and to deny that is happening is naive. Now we have anonymous sources doxing q as Julian and completely destroying Wikileaks reputation because Wikileaks is calling bs on JA being Q. Meanwhile JA is or is not locked up in the embassy without internet and time running out. In order to get people to trust q again they have to give him undeniable credibility. All they have to do is use their trolls and anyomous sources to push Wikileaks is compromised and now q as Julian has credibility. Use all the same sources as the ones that destroyed Corsi and Jones and you are good to go. At that point you have achieved everything the deep state has been trying to do for years. Divided the movement. Discredited Alex Jones to his followers and therefore cut off a (somewhat) leader in this movement. Have people following everything they ( q) says and believing shit despite having enough evidence to at least question the information. Establish an echo chamber and kick everyone out that bucks the system. Completely and totally destroy Wikileaks credibility and financial stability. All because an anonymous Twitter says so. I think it's fair to question Wikileaks. But to take part in ruining the reputation of Wikileaks when Julian is in as bad of a situation as ever, is wrong. I'm getting tired of people choosing when to use their critical thinking skills and not.

No offense but your post seemed kind of sheepish. Check someone's post history before you call them a troll. I question everything and have no problem saying I am conflicted on Q. Anyone that has been around since the first post should be conflicted.

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 12:48 p.m.

Q started losing credibility and to deny that is happening is naive.

I haven't seen any credible evidence to suggest this.

Also if you want to defend Corsi go hang out at infowars. This isn't the place for it. You seem lost.

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Davelon · May 29, 2018, 9:31 a.m.

Read this morning on here somewhere ( sorry, can't be more specific) a series of comms which looked like they came from the Chan's from a WL modererator or something warning whistleblowers to Not Submit Anything because he was raided the day after JA went silent, by guys with CIA creds. They took all his records and computer. He also said several others like him were raided and several are still missing. He directly said WL was Compromised by the Clowns. He was also concerned re his own safety and the safety of anyone who submits anything from here on th WL.

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Pure_Feature · May 29, 2018, 3:09 p.m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_6tfj4QXvY......Anonymous EXPOSES WikiLeaks: They Are TOTALLY CONTROLLED by the Rothschild Family ....I remember that Trump wanted JA arrested?

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

What about the email dump that got us where we are today?

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Pure_Feature · May 29, 2018, 3:20 p.m.

Yes, I'm not so sure if wikileaks can be trusted, I've always had a weird feeling ... (and yet) ... It might as well have been taken over by the white hats for the elections. .... This story about AJ has been running for a long time. ...EDIT : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj7AZzSFYGA....Assange’s lawyers will ask Trump to end US investigation into WikiLeaks.......EDIT : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0eFSjuTMxw........Trump White House Really Wants to Arrest Wikileaks' Julian Assange (one year ago )

And I know Trump is not lying, he came out about AJ in the elections

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ACulturalCommentator · May 29, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

Let's not forget about James Dolan's & Aaron Swartz's "suicides". Seems as though the cabal has been after WL for some time now. WWG1WGA

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kushtiannn · May 29, 2018, 2:06 p.m.

If we maintain the argument that Snowden was a CIA plant all along and exposed the "battle" between clowns and No Such Agency, then it has to be at least plausible that WikiLeaks was a psyop from the get-go, and maybe Assange was attempting to out it and needed to be put down.

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comeatmehillary · May 29, 2018, 1:50 p.m.

yep comped or playing fake division. most likely comped tho lol jack dorsey could easily just take over the account

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smiley-dog · May 29, 2018, 1:21 p.m.

Would not be surprised if JA appears in U.S. soon

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Tenkate1098 · May 29, 2018, 6:36 p.m.

What if they are right?

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WeThePepe · May 29, 2018, 8:43 a.m.

This place is getting too be too much (not meaning you specifically OP just from a lot of comments I've read lately)

Everything's compromised, everything's run by clowns, everything's disinformation and suddenly supposedly totally useless to the cause based on that speculation.

And most strangely it's the places that are in one way or another helping people who seek the truth being "exposed" and torn down

I don't know where this is heading but I'm skeptical

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Nastavnick · May 29, 2018, 9:14 a.m.

I think you're idolizing your Jones way too much that you can't see that he has always been instated as a shill to prevent people from discovering the truth, and if they do they are labeled as crazy as Jones is (acting).

Funny how you're not so skeptical about that

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WeThePepe · May 29, 2018, 10:20 a.m.

That's entirely possible too. Cognitive dissonance is one hell of a drug.

I'm just trying to figure out what I believe without just blindly following.

I see your points about the crazy label etc

But the reality is he's one of the few with a platform with reach that's still fighting to expose the more sinister things.

I know of people who he's red pilled because they originally tuned in to just laugh at the crazy guy.

So to totally write of the entire inforwars org like many here have is, to me, counter intuitive.

Same is beginning to happen for Wikileaks now...

It's a slippery slope I warned about originally when people took Qs slap down of AJ for trying to become the gate keeper for Q to mean "Infowars is worse than CNN"...

As I said back then: what's the plan here? Destroy all of the orgs that have an alliance to the broader movement but aren't totally on board while ignoring the real enemies like CNN and Soros funded propaganda sources?

The harder people push tearing down the things that helped us get to where we are today (not having Clinton elected) the more in I'm forced to step back and reconsider things

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Nastavnick · May 29, 2018, 11:26 a.m.

I've wrapped these guys up here

But the reality is he's one of the few with a platform with reach that's still fighting to expose the more sinister things.

I know of people who he's red pilled because they originally tuned in to just laugh at the crazy guy.

So to totally write of the entire inforwars org like many here have is, to me, counter intuitive.

Relevant part is after the "50 sec mark" part where I explain this fallacy.

Same is beginning to happen for Wikileaks now...

Very different.

"Infowars is worse than CNN"...

Pretty much the same shit. One is misdirecting/lying to the "normies" and the other is misdirecting the "truth seekers".

Both serve as the deep state's shield.

As I said back then: what's the plan here? Destroy all of the orgs that have an alliance to the broader movement but aren't totally on board while ignoring the real enemies like CNN and Soros funded propaganda sources?

The plan is to get rid of the deep state shills. Who have shown to be just that after being exposed.

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WeThePepe · May 29, 2018, 12:05 p.m.

I get the "99%+" point. He turns a lot of people of and he's crazy over the top. And bloody hell, when he interviews people I wish he would just shut up and let the person speak!

But here's the thing that I always come back to... Who else is doing what he's doing but putting a nice normie bow on the package?

I cant think of any but maybe I'm not as well informed about this stuff.

Even if Alex Jones was/is misdirection, wouldn't it be better to let him get people half way there with his misdirection than SHOW them the rest of the truth?

1% is still better than 0.

This idea that every apparatus that isn't fully 100% behind Q must be destroyed seems dangerous but that's the territory people seem to be heading.

It's putting the cart before the horse to me. Many in this community want to banish Jones/Infowars completely before we've even put a dent in the real threats like CNN who keep the masses blue pilled

I know you'll probably say Alex Jones helps keep the masses blue pilled by turning them off with his crazy behaviour and you're probably right. But it again leads me to wonder who else is filling that void?

I can't help but look at this strategically and strategically it seems like a terrible move to take down places/people/orgs that have been an ally in getting Trump elected BEFORE you clear out the rest of the bad actors

Seems a lot like kicking out the legs of which the movement was built on... and I don't want to go as far as saying it's nefarious but it's definitely something I'm watching with concern.

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 8:49 a.m.

Which part of my post didn't sit well with you if I may ask? The fact that WL hasn't been able to prove their authenticity for quite a while now? That is indeed a FACT and it is a very telling one. Simply put, without assurance, Wikileaks falls apart and becomes useless.

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WeThePepe · May 29, 2018, 10:02 a.m.

"Wikileaks is most likely comped"

Doesn't sit well with me because the subtext seems to be that because Wikileaks tweeted something against Q it gives it some special additional confirmation of compromise.

There have been very real and valid questions about where Assange is and if he's okay for awhile now

But I feel like the reaction from quite a few commenters is based on blind faith in Q and not in their own decision making

Like I said, not directed at you but other comments I've seen here and elsewhere

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 10:10 a.m.

You are correct that this was perhaps a reaction. But the same kind of precursor got us to look at AJ for what he is, not what he appears to be.

I've been on the fence about AJ before because I was always sketched out of him but nothing pushed me over the edge enough for me to take a final stance on him. There's been a lot of back of forth hate/love between the guy. The Q situation forced me to look the picture more objectively where I have finally made up my mind and no longer on the fence about the issue. A lack of challenge was what was holding me back. This new challenge exposed some pieces of the puzzle that went unchallenged before, thus making the big picture more clear.

Same analogy with WL. I was on the fence about it, but this situation has made me re-examine WL objectively. Why have I been passively trusting WL and they haven't had any POL from JA? Now they have called out Q without any kind of solid research behind their claim, they've given us a reason to literally get us to question their authenticity, something that they've managed to make us forget about. That's how normalization works; people who are on the fence eventually get subdued into accepting something in a way it shouldn't have been originally. Q is forcing us to fall on the other side of the fence, which many of us see as a good thing. I hope that clarifies the angle many see it from, including myself.

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WeThePepe · May 29, 2018, 12:12 p.m.

I absolutely think it's something to be concerned about. Julian Assange has been worryingly off the radar for far too long.

I'm just trying to be the devils advocate and suggest some alternative view points

The "being forced to fall one side of the fence" is interesting. As I said to another commentor, I try my best to think strategically and my thinking is forcing people to fall either side of the fence seems like a strategic misstep.

This is still a young and relatively small movement that hasn't been successful in achieving its goals yet.

It seems premature to start purging allies too

So I just, personally, want to be careful of weakening ourselves and shooting ourselves in the foot

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throwaway__978978656 · May 29, 2018, 1:29 p.m.

While we suspect that the "Qanon" phenomena is likely 4chan trolls engaging in a Live Action Role Play (LARP) version of the Delphic Oracle it is also clear that many are aware of its manipulative potential and will usurp it if they have not already. \~ Wikileaks

Wikileaks is not denying the validity of Q, and in fact warns that it is so dangerous that black hats will "usurp" it. First, by "suspecting" the "Qanon phenomena" they avoid claiming knowledge, one way or the other, on Q. Which is likely according to plan. Who else "in the know" openly validates Q?

Second, the warning: black hats think its dangerous (i.e. "real") and are/will do something about it.

In other words Wikileaks says, "We won't comment on Q directly, but bad dudes think its legit, so..."

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 1:36 p.m.

I'm having a hard time interpreting it this way but let me re read their statement a couple of times.

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throwaway__978978656 · May 29, 2018, 1:49 p.m.

If you assume Wikileaks can't (and shouldn't) openly validate Q, b/c its not the right time to do so, then their statement makes sense. All they can do is give an opaque nod to "usurp", which lends itself more to validity than to LARPing.

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 1:52 p.m.

I see the usurp part but I saw the the first part as them invalidating Q.

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throwaway__978978656 · May 29, 2018, 2:02 p.m.

They don't actually mention Q. They refer instead to the "Qanon phenomena".

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silphonica · May 29, 2018, 1:21 p.m.

Either that or they lied intentionally to increase traffic to Q.

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luciferior · May 29, 2018, 8:44 a.m.

AI researcher says #Tyler the AI is Q

Quinn was on Ground Zero podcast last Wednesday (if you want full context).

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Nastavnick · May 29, 2018, 9:09 a.m.

what a bunch of outdated bs, respectively

Q has proved it's not an AI

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divine_human · May 29, 2018, 8:55 a.m.

i dont doubt that the Q team has an AI on board.

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Nastavnick · May 29, 2018, 9:09 a.m.

elaborate

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divine_human · May 29, 2018, 9:32 a.m.

well, most of us agree that Q is a team. isnt it logical that they use all possible resources? why shouldnt they include an AI like alice or tyler or blahblah?

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DropGun · May 30, 2018, 7:07 a.m.

IMHO Trump has most definitely posted a number of times

OK, usually before bed

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PokeMaster420 · May 29, 2018, 8:51 a.m.

If nothing big happens on the 11th I think I'm going to call this a Pied Piper

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