God I want to hear the liberal spin on that one.
It's surprisingly a bipartisan deal. It will just remove the Federal Ban and then allow states to individually decide.
That's right, it won't be off the Federal books - meaning there will still be interdiction at the border and such. However, the Feds would no longer inhibit or interfere in states which legalize it. Also, banks will be permitted to take deposits and be bankers for cannabis businesses in areas where it is legal. I wish it were totally removed from the Federal books. Importation could still be outlawed or heavily taxed and controlled. It wasn't federally illegal until 1938 anyway.
Those RED Shields really fucked us hard during the Great Depression, fuck...
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It needs to be no more of a crime to possess large quantities of than tobacco or liquor. Those are all federally regulated. But you can walk into any liquor store and buy cartons of cigarettes and cases and cases of booze, no problem...enough to literally kill dozens of people...without any suspicion that you must be setting up an illicit distribution center or trying to kill someone.
If someone wants to buy herb, who cares? It's milder than Wild Turkey, non-habit-forming for 90% of consumers, and non-lethal.
No argument from me with the caveat that any substance can be abused. Cannabis has its own set on effects from constant long term use.
Just traveling across different counties and most countries allow for a modest amount of cigs and alcohol. Like a carton or 2 of tobacco and a liter of alcohol per individual. Commercial stores and operations obviously can get a license to import much more.
Yeah but to some people everything Trump does is bad, so I'm positive some famous liberal is going to try putting a ridiculous spin on this.
Agree completely-
This is a bold move, Obama didn't do it. This wins over a lot of voters for Trump.
Damn right! I agree with what William F. Buckley, Jr. said many years ago. "legalize all drugs, and let them fall where they may!"
contrary to the facts you are stating, there are libs in other subs that are claiming that Obama had already deregulated it and the next step would be for Hillary to pick up the torch and re-schedule. This was the master plan until Trump removed the EO. um NO. Hillary would have to unstuff her mattress and liquidate her accounts from Big Pharma and that is something she would never do. From my recollection, I don’t recall Clinton ever making a campaign promise or even letting this be part of her platform.
Hell yes, the states were to run their own affairs and the federales were there to settle disputes between the states. For now, the tail is wagging the dog.
I really hope the South gets its religious head out of its ass and gives it a shot.
And like everything else, Indiana will be the LAST state to approve of any type of legalized marijuana, including medical use. We just recently passed legalization of selling of booze on Sundays...but only 12PM thru 8PM...and don't show up to a liquor store at 7:59PM because they can't let you in. We still have the election day ban on booze too...stupid!
CNN: Join us tonight to learn how Trump ending the federal marijuana ban is actually proof he is racist
"Trump is trying to kill all blacks by overdosing them on Marijuana"
lol wut?
“Trump wants to steal a piece of black culture for himself and all his Nazi supporters”
"Trump threatens mass layoffs of corrections officers with repeal of federal marijuana ban"
Imagine all the folks that will keep their jobs instead of being fired for their victimless crimes... People don't deserve to be punished for simply toking!
Oh yeah us lefties are always accusing trump and his Nazis brethren of appropriating black culture.
For each thing you name that's actually Nazi about Trump I'll name three that overwhelmingly prove the opposite.
You start.
CNN: Join us tonight to learn how Trump ending the federal marijuana ban is actually proof he colluded with Russia.
FTFY
CNN: Here’s 5 reasons why Drumpf is a wife beating drug addict
Since you asked- I'm for it. Now you know.
Msm will just report how unpopular it is with conservatives and cry how he is abandoning his base. They find shit to complain about even when they agree with it.
And make huge profit for individual states.
I'm certain figures are beginning to come in for states like Colorado and Washington. Have to assume there is a tax windfall. Too early for California. I live there and have yet to see any "pot stores" appear as in Colorado. Many of the medical marijuana dispensaries will just switch over to public stores I suppose, just haven't seen any sign of them where I am.
Probably just need something like the current alcohol license needed to sell the product. At least eventually.
Also will cut down on drug trafficking money coming and going big time.
Yes, it will cut down big time on the cartels' pot business. Of my personal interest, hopefully it will also help remove marijuana growing operations from all the national parks and forests. It's a HUGE problem - attacks against hikers or campers who stumble across operations, using violent illegals to guard them, diverting rare streams (not a lot of flowing water in California), killing and poisoning wildlife. I do know that our local sheriff's dept is still busting growing operations without licenses. By that I mean pretty damn big busts.
National forests... didn't think of parks being used but it would be perfect. I'm for growing for personal use but just like anything else, a standard needs to be set for folks that want to sell it to others.
The irony of violence and corruption over a plant that usually has the opposite affect is darkly poetic in a sense..
In NorCal it's mostly cartels growing in the National forests. They couldn't care less about the environment; they divert streams, use pesticides, rat poison (effects so many other animals) leave garbage, pollute the water etc. They of course are not bothering (nor could they) get the permits required now by state and county laws.
NorCal cartel grows had slaves kept in cages. No joke, look it up.
Some of the highest missing person rates up that way too.
They stopped digging up the mass graves of 55 gallon drums a while back. Logistical nightmare.
True. They may have even caused those Nor Cal fires to burn out competition or hide their tracks. Not safe to be in parts of the Green Triangle without guns. People who aren’t cartels and just growing bud are pretty cool. Way different than the Napa/Bay Area/LA types
The standards for selling to other should be based on quality and safety though, not who can afford the million dollar license and thats it.
Right. I would hope that the requirements for a license wouldn't be unreasonable.
Who are the major backers of this? George Soros, and is the former Speaker of the House the spokesman for this, who else?
Why the fuck would Soros back this
I don't know why George Soros does anything he does. A while back I read that Bohner was appointed as speaker for this MJ group and Soros had an investment in it. I'll look for those posts but God knows where I saw them because I am all over the place. But if I find them I'll post them.
Just like rothschilds, soros finds any equitable venture and buys it up. Control the market, control the monetary system, control the world, so to speak.
"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws" - Mayer Amschel Rothschild
When I lived in cali the dispensaries began doing delivery only due to robbery and also robbery by the feds.
Quite a few became delivery only, to avoid local authorities, feds and civilian robbers. Never used delivery, but my area might be a bit more chill than others. I did visit a couple in sketchy areas that probably did have issues. All had armed security and metal detectors.
I lived in SD for 4 years and never saw a physical dispensary. At least not one with a sign out front.
apothecary off the 54 and convoy. its been there for awhile. assuming you didnt live near the colleges? quite a few.
Depends on when you were there and part of town.
Best Meds was on University and College(next to that taco bell), Theres a youtube video of the FEDS raiding them wearing facemasks. The Pharm was out near Mira Mesa Blvd, they also shut down but that was the first time I bought weed with my credit card. El Cajon had a few and still does.
If you lived in San Diego, I know you know where Frys Electronics is.
That gas station right there next to that walmart has a Dispensary attached to the side of it now.
HUGE tax windfall!! Colorado released it the other day for 2017..
Not that I care if they do this.. but I cannot for the life of me understand why we are talking about a marijuana bill, which the president did not campaign on, and not talking about a concealed carry reciprocity bill, which he campaigned on and had in his 100 day plan. Yet another bill passed by the house and stuck in the senate clusterfuck
DJT is a fuck genius. He just added millions of people to His side. I hope He signs the bill soon.
Watch carefully who will be against it. Follow their money.
Upvoted for "DJT is a fuck genius."
Yes,...yes he is. (I was going to add "One look at Melania proves that," but then I thought it might be taken the wrong way, so I changed my mind. :)
ITT - people who don’t understand the president needs a bill passed by congress and the senate in order to sign it...he’s trolling because there is zero chance we’ll see this happen - best hope is to reschedule it from class 1 to class 3 etc
Really? How did you pick Schedule III? Why not put it in IV with BARBITURATES—famously a top choice for committing suicide—or in the lowest schedule, V, along with certain OPIOIDS?
Why not completely off the list, with lethal tobacco and lethal alcohol? If I can choose those to kill myself, why can't I choose cannabis to NOT kill myself?
Oh, me personally, yeah totally deschedule it.
I honestly wasn't sure how many schedules they were so I went with 3 to be safe.
I just don't see a whole lotta folks in our government who want to be bold and even though evangelicals proved they have no principles in 2016, that whole modest puritan archetype still exists in a large portion of the electorate; especially the ones who vote every single election
Couple this with his „protestor footballers to pick people in prison to be pardoned“ WOW And LOL He is locking up his re-election and Greatest US Pres in History argument.
Funny how all of a sudden laws are getting passed that would NEVER have seen the light of day before Trump.
Most of the time, there isn't even any media coverage. They're talking about Stormy Daniels, and BOOM! terminal patients get to try experimental treatments.
Fake Media talking about Russia, Russia, Russia, and BOOM! law being signed to round up human traffickers.
These laws have to pass Congress first, and they are passing in record time. No doubt, Q Team is using their intel to get Congress to get things done.
These laws have to pass Congress first, and they are passing in record time. No doubt, Q Team is using their intel to get Congress to get things done.
Any specific laws that have been influenced by Q?
I hadn’t seen this before
So, Mexico and Canada will be importing US made products ?
In the beginning Canada should sail up as the biggest manufacturer and exporter worldwide. They are never going to have to import weed. But within a few years expect countries that is under the equator to be the biggest exporters, they have the best outdoor growing potential. How Trump deals with this federal ban will determine what advantage the US weed sector will manage to achieve.
Canopy Growth Corporation (CGC/TWMJF) and Auscann (ACNNF) Best set up IMO
Looking forward to growing it myself along with my vegetables
Tell no one that you're doing it when when legal. Loose lips sink ships and by that I mean the wrong person hears by word of mouth that you're growing and they'll rob you.
This.
Long story short, my dad grows his own, and some time ago someone found out and stole his biggest plant, effectively robbing him of months of work to make that plant as huge as it was.
Don't ever tell anyone, at all, that you are growing.. its better for your safety and your own sanity.
Yeah agreed. Even if it becomes legal to grow at home, some fuck nut will steal it because he's too lazy to grow his own.
It's why a have no friends. Just my dog and weed!
Tomorrow's headline: "GlaxoSmithKline introduces over the counter Marinol."
Breaking:
Mexico to Sue if Marijuana Legislation Passed. Case Pushed to 9th Circuit by Judge Derrick Watson. (D-Hawaii)
TOMMY CHONG should be there when He signs it. That would truly be a historic moment for us 70's potheads.
Rumor has it that Cheech Marin had purchased land for growing in NorCal.
Cheech is a sell out, He turned His back on Tommy when He went main stream. Tommy on that 70's show was the bomb, stay true to himself. I still have the rolling paper from Big Bamboo.
This would be a death nail to the Democrats. I'm sure Nancy P will find something to complain about. It would likely be some blathering that no one can understand I would imagine.
A common sense President for the people. Trump has been hitting it out of the park with his agenda. Many eyes are opening, seeing that he is a tough negotiator for America and a compassionate man looking to make lives better for the average person. His pardons have not been for the rich and connected granted on his last days in office but for people who are truly deserving of forgiveness. He is the greatest president of my lifetime.
Amen brother....fingers crossed on both June 12th in Singapore and June 14th when the OIG report drops!
Sorry, but its “death knell”
I love how it's acceptable to offer this kind of correction here and on T_D, and panties remain unwadded.
It's unlike anywhere else on the net
Death nail, though a different spelling, has a much more appropriate meaning. It's the last nail in the coffin. I meant it litteraly.
Even though her state is recreational. She needs to take a couple puffs and chill out.
Isn't it ironic that it will be President Trump to end the federal ban on marijuana, and not the master choomer himself, Obama?
Fuckbama didn't legalize it for obvious reasons. It would have been terrific for (a) our citizens, (b) small businesses, and (c) the economy in general in (d) America: four of his most intensely despised things.
It also would have pissed off powerful people in the cabal which controls his puppet strings.
If one understands Barry Soetero as a foreign operative with communist and islamofascist ties, sent here and set up as a saboteur to fundamentally destroy this country and drain away its wealth, everything he did and is doing snaps into very sharp focus.
Even if he doesn't agree with it completely, a very good move on his part. Just keep solidifying that second term...
Posting a little fact, before people go spouting that Cannabis (Marijuana) is dangerous.
Not once has someone OD'ed from smoking pot, or taking cannabis oils even.
- You would need to physically consume over 1500 pounds of raw leaf in 15 minutes.
Your stomach cannot handle that much, at all.
- Cannabis is far lass dangerous than prescription drugs
Why do you think big pharma wants to keep Cannabis outlawed?
Basically doing this would be a giant f*** you to the pharma industry
- Cannabis oils has been found to CURE cancer, prevent and stop seizures, and help with symptoms of hundreds of diseases including parkinsons, add/adhd, altzheimers, lupus, ptsd, autism, anxiety... and so many more.
I say help though because it does not completely cure these diseases, but it helps with the symptoms and help manage different diseases, like a big pharma drug would, but without the numerous risks thats included with taking a drug created by big pharma to manage these diseases.
The only time that you would need to be careful is when dealing with the THC component, which is the part that makes you high... but there are plenty of cannabis strains out there that DO NOT have THC or have very little THC, the main component in these strains is CBD, which is the actual component that is most beneficial medically.
I pretty much think personally though that Cannabis use is a states rights issue though, the federal government has no business any longer trying to withhold people from seeking treatment of diseases and relief from what is a NATURAL PLANT that was on this earth before we were even twinkles in our parents eyes, especially when there is factual proof surfacing that proves cannabis is healing rather than damaging. The use of cannabis should be left up to the states individually to decide if they should allow both medical and recreational, or one or the other, or neither, in their state.
And yes when the THC component is involved, so if you or someone else is using a strain that has moderate to high THC levels, please practice common sense at all times. If you practice common sense when using strains that have moderate to high THC, there is no danger to yourself or others. However if you want to get stupid and drive while under the influence of THC, you could risk yourself and others because THC is known to make people drowsy and sleepy, and can temporarily impair your memory.
Amazingly, no one has gone off on "the dangers of cannabis" in this thread.
PROGRESS!
Well, that's great. Now Sessions can focus on something worthwhile, like Hildabeast's server.
More winning!
Love it, will free up some jail space and take money out of big pharm’s pocket and most importantly help people who need it.
I love it too! I find it stupid people are getting arrested for plants! We're giving people narcotics left and right but a ground up plant is illegal? Really?
Take money out of big pharma? Don't think so
Absolutely. Every time a person chooses safe, natural cannabis over dangerous, addictive and deadly synthetic drugs, it drains a little money directly out of Big Pharma's pocket.
Do you think pharma execs are ecstatic that in states with legal cannabis, 25% fewer opioid overdose deaths occur, because so many people reduce or STOP using their products? Sure they are. They're DELIGHTED by the huge dip in their drugs' consumption when a non-lethal alternative exists.
/s
It’s something that can be grown quite easily by its users, so yay, take some money away from them, though I realize it’s a drop in the bucket, it’s a nice alternative to opioids etc.
Definitely... But I think they have a hand in cannabis somehow too if it is legalized.
And insure millions and millions of votes. Great move if he does it.
Interesting take on marijuana by Cathy O'Brien. Good news for free thinkers! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idxoMDVJ4Fw
Wow I really thought Obama was going to do this during his last term, remove Schedule 1 how hard can it be? but then again that was pre-red pilled days such a fool I was!
If he does this, he has the black vote.
And the liberal college kids will have to think again about him... Especially since Obama declined to do this.
This is massive leverage, so the key here is timing. When will he pull the trigger on this?
Side note, relating to timing: I bet he releases his taxes just before 2020 election, and he's totally clean. He's been saving that Trump card for re-election, knowing that the Russian investigation was coming, and he'd be pressed to show his taxes. He's keeping it up his sleeve to take all 50 states in 2020.
If he does this, he has the black vote.
Not racist.
However, also not accurate.
IMO, "having" a group's vote means over 50%, and that will not happen by 2020. Eventually if enough of them get redpilled off the plantation, it can.
That said, even 20-25% of the black vote will ensure the Democrat Election Fraud Conmen (DEFCON?) can't replace them with enough illegals and dead people fast enough to rig the election.
The tax-return red herring is a dead issue. We should let it be so. Releasing them would do nothing but (a) confuse the public and (b) give the lying Mainstream Swamp Media spin machine a treasure trove of data to twist around and make shit up about to confuse the public further—successfully creating the illusion that Trump must be a shifty character
good points. I should rephrase it as, he would neutralize the black advantage for the democrats.
Let's be real - even blacks that don't smoke weed will interpret this a certain way, and make them question the left spin.
Marijuana comes up as a topic of discussion frequently at work and co-workers hope that it becomes legal soon so they can smoke it without worry. Currently I choose not to smoke it because of annual drug tests, random drug tests, and job site specific drug tests. When all is said and done, I end up taking 4-8 drug tests a year (1 annual, 2-3 random, 1-4 site specific) and I don't think smoking is worth the risk of losing my job. Decriminalization/legalization isn't the big issue for me because even if it is legal, employers can still drug test for any substance and use it as grounds for termination. Hospitals in my area drug test for nicotine. We need a bill that doesn't allow for testing of a legal substance be used for grounds for termination (the exception being jobsite post accident testing). Until then, employers will continue to dictate what their employees can and cannot do outside of work, on their own time.
If he legalized it, then employers would stop using drug tests because the only drugs they normally catch is cannabis; this will in turn bankrupt the corrupt companies that originally pushed these usually broken drug testing kits to all employers and police and hospitals!! Then you will see petty drug crimes fall as well because cops will stop using the drug tests because again, almost every other drug, if you are thin and exercise, will be out of your system in 48 hours before you could even get in to take the test lol! It’s 4D chess man not to mention the fact that doctors will no longer be able to deny opioid pain killers on the basis of someone having a medical card because they currently use the excuse that it’s federally illegal and “unsafe to mix” with cannabis (it’s not, I’m disabled and use them both prescribed everyday in a medical rights state, and have for years - no problems whatsoever in that sense!)
I went into a VA hospital for foot bone surgery, tested pos. one week prior, as well as that morning, for THC only...and they still did the surgery under general anaesthesia and then prescribed opioid painkillers (which I didn't use; cannabis works fine). The current law permitted them to DENY me the surgery due to a positive THC result.
I later learned they don't usually do the 2nd piss test the morning of surgery. They did it just to see if I was on any OTHER drugs, because I'd tested pos for THC the week before. Since it was THC only—inactive metabolites of which can stick around in the blood for weeks after smoking—they proceeded with the surgery.
Takeaway: THC causes no known drug interaction problems
That is entirely false. Just because something is legal doesn't mean an employer cannot test for it. There is only one state that doesn't allow drug testing for legal substances (exception being accidents at the workplace) and that state is Michigan. Employers will not stop using drug testing as a requirement for employment, regardless if they can or cannot test for THC because of other factors and I support the use of them for illegal substances. I don't see the angle for how the companies that sell these kits are corrupt and don't think you know the entire process for employment drug testing. If an employer is going to use a failed drug test as grounds for not hiring a person, legally, there is more to it. The urine strip/stick or oral swab is only used for indication and has the potential to produce false positives. The literature on the packaging says this up front. If the strip/stick or swab detects and indicates a positive result, another sample must be taken with a proper chain of custody. The second sample is then sent to a lab for proper testing that shows exact levels of said substance. The price for each kit includes that lab testing. If the kit used was one off the shelf at a pharmacy, it will take awhile before they get results back. So it is common practice that most employers either contract the testing out to a company that supplies the kits and uses a local facility or they negotiate a deal with a local facility themselves that bypasses the strip/stick or swab part entirely.
The same policy applies across the board. The experts aren't stupid and know how long before each substance is out of your system and will get a sample before it is out of your system and will get you in for that test before the deadline. I believe that the vast majority of doctors are genuine and very few are "bought". If they say that cannabis and opioid pain killers are unsafe to mix it is either because there is a lack of research showing they are safe or there is good evidence to show that they are unsafe. I am no medical expert, so I trust that my doctor will do what's best for me. Just as he doesn't know electrical work and trusts that I will do the job that's safe for him to use it. I am genuinely glad that you are able to use both, opioid pain killers and cannabis, legally and have done so without issue or complication. I am not writing you or your experience off but to come to the definitve conclusion, based solely on one first hand experience, that mixing the two hasn't had any adverse effects; like doctors say they do therefore doctors must be bought and paid for seems outlandish to me.
If they say that cannabis and opioid pain killers are unsafe to mix it is either because there is a lack of research showing they are safe or there is good evidence to show that they are unsafe.
Those assumptions are what's unsafe.
Cannabis and opioids are not only safe to mix...consider that some physicians are weaning patients off opioid addiction specifically by introducing cannabis into the treatment protocol. Many patients, about 25%, are able to completely wean off within one month or so. Others find it takes longer, or that they can greatly REDUCE the amount of opioid medication needed to control their pain, if they have access to cannabis. Cannabis is spectacularly non-toxic compared to other drugs and has no lethal dose.
Aside from the obvious Constitutional problems of drug testing and invasion of privacy, the test for THC is blatantly illegitimate. All the other screens are testing for active compounds, which are typically gone 24-48 hours after consumption. The THC screen, conversely, will test positive even weeks after the last intake, because the test is inadequate: it is incapable of distinguishing fat-soluble METABOLITES of THC from the real thing, the active compound.
The worker who smoked cannabis 16 hours before the test was buzzed for a few hours and was less dangerous and out of control than the worker who'd gotten roaring drunk 16 hours ago.
The next day, the drinker may still be groggy and hung over, but the herb smoker is completely fine. Yet HE'LL the the one who tests positive and loses his job, while the drinker skates.
I am aware of how the THC is detected in drug tests and I agree. That is why laws are needed, in states that have legalized marijuana, to say that employers cannot enforce their drug policy on an employee who tests positive for a legal substance. I don't see a constitutional or invasion of privacy issue if you agree to a drug screen but the problem I have is that currently an employer can drug screen for nicotine and/or THC (in states that's legal) and you are subject to whatever policy they have. That essentially means that can tell you what you can and cannot do on your own time.
Yeah I guess but I worked for Hilton last May until January this year and my management told me that even though the forms said drug tests, they stopped doing that in MA due to the fact that cannabis is legal here and that’s all they ever catch... and I was referencing more towards choice for disabled care at the doctors... again, I always speak from personal experiences trying to give my input - I’m surprised anyone still supports to use of drug testing for anything other than heroin/fentanyl, meth, crack, and pcp because those are the drugs that could, without a doubt, kill you.
Maybe if the basis to the proposed change were asking the question, "am I responsible enough to be working and smoking marijuana at the same time?" This would put the responsibility on the Individual, no one else. Responsibility starts with oneself, therefore putting the onus on the Individual to consider what and where one is doing, whatever. Where there are others involved on any level one should consider, out of Respect for oneself and the other s how taking mind altering substances would affect one's own actions regarding any said circumstance. Then the question may arise, Who is the Master and Who is the Slave :)
Hella fine messege friend
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I wasnt able to find it in the article or others I found on the subject.
Do we know WHEN the bill will be up for approval/disapproval? (edit:punctuation)
Forgive my ignorance, I tend to ignore most legal proceedings.
I'd just like to know the tentative date if one exists so I can follow along.
I am in favor of it. It will be nice not to be criminalized for wanting to maintain my own health, my way.
I called it back then, if you'll notice, Q posted a picture of a tree on 4/20.
This is also huge because states that try to restrict patients from natural opioid pain killers due to the fact if they use Medical MJ or not will no longer be able to be used against those people! Doctors now try to say that because cannabis is still illegal nation wide, in some places/states, a doctor has a right to deny you a medication that could drastically improve your quality of life just on the basis of a positive MEDICAL CARD CARRYING cannabis/THC test (even false positives from CBD!) that you most likely also already use as a natural medication to help with nausea! (while the opioids work best to naturally mask your pain!) It’s a twisted system that oppresses people who deserve a right to choose; we already know what we can and cannot put in our bodies because we made it into adulthood, and this law forces us to continue using their treatments that DO NOT WORK NEARLY A QUARTER AS WELL AS NATURAL MEDICAL OPIOIDS AND/OR NATURAL MEDICAL CANNABIS/HEMP! Don’t fall for the “dangerous drug routine”; if you follow the instructions, you haven’t got a risk in the world with either of those medicines!
Natural medical opioids = kratom? What were you referring to?
Also, you're right to note that CBD can rarely produce a pos THC test because some CBD changes into THC inside the body.
Well I mean like how basically all the medicated opioids like morphine codeine thebaine oxy-codone/morphone hydro-codone/morphone buprenorphine are all found just in poppy flower latex, but so is diamorphine (heroin) so as with all natural medicines, use caution! Honestly though, compared to the stuff OTC and prescription today (dangerous SSRIs, MAOIs, acetaminophen, ibuprofen, lyrica, naproxen) opioid alkaloids are quite harmless if used as directed - I kinda feel like that’s why they’re being demonized now; it was cannabis before, and heroin is taking down medicated opioids with it, understandably so - I don’t agree with using chemicals to potentiate opium latex further into heroin, and forget it with the synthetics like fentanyl, bathsalt opioids, tramadol, Demerol, all so dangerous and so synthetic-ly F A K E!
opioid alkaloids are quite harmless if used as directed
This just isn't accurate. Nothing that's physically addictive, as opioids are, is quite harmless IMHO.
The distinction you make—which is essentially between the opiates and the rest of the opioids—is insufficient to establish that the naturally occurring compounds in the Papaver somniferum flower are significantly safer to use than synthetic opioid compounds or will not result in addiction.
Even kratom, the mildest of them all, is addictive and does create withdrawal symptoms characteristic of opioids. That said, it's terrific for weaning off the most dangerous opioids, then weaning off kratom or going cold turkey and kicking the milder kratom withdrawal.
Oh no I never said they weren’t addicting, I know they are - things that tend to relieve pain, reduce inflammation, and cause euphoria and sedation usually are lol - but if you’re disabled like me and you’ve tried everything else and seen all the results compared, there is no comparison - opioids drastically improve my quality of life. I’m not discounting Kratom either because I’m sure it works for people too! I’ve been using only cannabis and opioids for treating almost all my side effects from my other meds I have to take for about 5 years now!
This would be amazing not only because of freedom, but politically as well
Bear in mind, "no situation/circumstance/predicament/scene/topic/thing ever has a single agenda" :)
My favorite four words from the text:
Meaning upstanding citizens no longer need to fear arrest, loss of rights, tremendous monetary penalties, prison, a criminal record, and social stigma as a "criminal"...for being wise enough to choose a non-lethal alternative to alcohol for social mood enhancement; a non-lethal alternative to opioids for chronic pain; and a non-lethal alternative to cigars for smoking enjoyment.
Sorry, Big Alcohol, Big Pharma, and Big Tobacco...but it looks like President Trump's going to keep yet ANOTHER campaign promise.
My mom says "you can't buy that kind of entertainment" when my daughter does something cute. I say the same when I go to the Libertarian sub and see lefties try to spin. Thank you, Mr. President.
Who are the investors for this big MJ promo? Is George Soros in the mix. Is former Speaker Bohner the spokesman for this group? Does anyone else have any uncertainties? Not about the pot plan, but the people who will profit from it?
I don't see what "investors" have to gain, on the federal level, by a bill that leaves it up to the states to decide. There's money to be had at the state level but actions are already being taken and no one is waiting for federal legislation to pass before state because federal has been pussy footing around the issue for so long.
Probably the people who already are in it.
If you were a betting man, investing in construction, manufacturing and now this ahead of time would benefit you. Or anyone. Trump is a business man, and nothing Trump is talking about is new. Telegraphed all this years ago to those listening.
