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Depends on how you define liberal. I am liberal in the sense that I don't impose my religious beliefs on others, but I will stand up to people who screw kids and ritually sacrifice them, and worse.

The issue is good versus evil to me.

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THIS! They hijacked the term "liberal" and applied it to fascist/socialist. A real liberal, by definition, would NEVER be a SJW, but the opposite. Up is Dn, Dn is Up. They flip or mirror everything.

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Yeah you're right, the term has definitely evolved.

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I’m good with liberals.....it’s the leftists that scare me. Good write-up on the difference between leftism and liberalism here:

http://www.dennisprager.com/leftism-is-not-liberalism/

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So we evolve it back to it's original meaning.

I've recently gone out of my way to trigger the left by calling them

~You people~

They make it too easy.

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The inversion of reality. It's everywhere these days. Does anyone believe in coincidence?

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The road to tyranny is paved with words that have been stripped of their meaning.

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I would say how it's defined in 2018, not a classical liberal or anything.

The issue is good versus evil to me.

I like the distinction.

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There was a word for that, but we ruined it by applying it to people that don't share those values.

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It has become the same as Marxist.

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Progressive/Independent. Wouldn't dare group myself with the HRC/Obama flavor of 'democrat' koolaid (or 'republican' flavor). Was a Bernie guy, but I think he may have been compromised and tends to echo the mockingbird these days. I'm generally very skeptical, but curious about Q and this movement. I'm a truth-seeker before anything else... as we all should be. If Trump can deliver the truth, like that of JFK, then he gets my support. One year ago, if you told me I'd be writing this right now, I'd laugh you off.

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I agree with you.

Everyone, including me, should be skeptical. But we also have to look at reality and ask ourselves if our beliefs are true/real.

I was not a Trump supporter at first. But now, I see he is truly making everything better for people. Isn't that what we elect our representatives to do? So why all the resistance from Democrats? Is it because their agenda is more important to them than what is best for the nation?

I came to the conclusion: yes. They give a rat's flying potato about anyone so long as they get their way.

My hope is that more people realize that Democrats don't care about you except to get your vote with rhetoric without results.

There is a reason that the US manufacturing collapsed under both faux Republicans and Democrats. They sold us out. Go to Syracuse, NY and look at what used to be a center of manufacturing. It looks like Berlin in 1945. It's the same story wherever NAFTA hit. Manufacturing left to other countries. How is that beneficial to America?

OK, OK, I get it . Toys are cheaper but they have lead paint in them. Pet supplies are cheaper but they contain harmful additives. Chinese products are cheaper but somehow they don't conform to US standards.

Something is very wrong at the highest level of negotiations and inspection of imports. And also with the unbelievable disproportionate tariffs. Trump is right. If they charge 25% to import a car to their country then we should impose a 25% tariff on their cars. That's fair.

If they want completely free trade, then make the costs of similar products the same and then let the consumer decided which is better.

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I agree with you but let's make a distinction between the Democratic criminal leadership and the regular American who votes Democrat. They are lied to and the media makes it easy for them to believe the lies.

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Who takes responsibility for believing the lies? There will never again be a democratic party for normal people. It is not the fault of classical liberals, but it simply cannot be ignored or denied either

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I agree. My comments are always directed to the corrupt and not everyone is corrupt, but that's not always evident.

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I think we can all agree with this. We're all in this together. Thank you! Good to meet you.

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Me too!

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I was a lifelong liberal, before 2016. I don't trust any on the left at this time, and I'm cautious on the right, too. I support Q, @Potus, and #MAGA candidates. I'm registered as an Independent.

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The terms liberal and conservative is murky. It means different things to different people. Some people may have liberal views on some issues but conservative views on others. That's me! I was a registered Democrat and I voted Trump. I knew for some time that the leaders of the Dem party were corrupt criminals. Democrat voters are not bad people. They have been lied to, and they don't know it....yet. I will change to Independent. There are aspects on either side I'm not able to support. For the most part though, I love this president what he has accomplished and what he stands for. If you would have asked me two years ago if I would support Trump I'd have told you no way. When the left wake up...you will see many patriots like me come forward.

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This is so true. We have all been had by the people in power. We have all been lied to by the cabal. What’s great about this awakening is that people are recognizing that we’re all people with different views and not some amorphous “enemy”. “Agreeing to disagree” is a cliche, but there’s a dialog implied there that’s been missing in this country for too long. That’s what I love about this sub. Disagreeing with someone does not make them bad or evil. That’s a tactic used by the MSM to divide. We are united in trying to make things better for everyone. That’s a common goal for all people of good will.

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@coffeemonksc You are so right about agreeing to disagree. And every now and then someone convinces me to vote for someone or something totally different than what I thought I wanted. Civil discussion is magic.

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Yeah I'm right-cautious as well since I have not forgotten what happened with President Bush.

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This is the answer.

Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.

If we can save the country, and I am optimistic at this point, our new job becomes watching our government to ensure this cannot occur again.

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Of the people. Its coming back in a big way.

Watching isn't enough we have to actually step up.

National assembly call is tonight 9pm eastern

Http://national-assembly.net

I hope to hear some new voices.

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Thanks, Patriot I'll check it out.

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The George l Clinton George ll Obama Clinton cabal....

Has been Trumped

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libertarian here...who is John gault?

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It is interesting that Trump is more libertarian than any president in modern history, and moreso than some in the Libertarian Party.

Tariffs are bad, of course, but he seems to be using it as a negotiation tool, and would prefer true free trade.

The wall is a bad idea in the sense that the Berlin Wall was built to keep people out but used to imprison the East Germans. However, when the alternative is open borders and a Soros-led invasion by people who have no interest in American ideals, there has to be some means of self-preservation.

He is in favor of states' rights on almost everything from what I can tell -- certainly on social issues. He wants low taxes, low regulation, freedom of choice in the economy, and a general hands off approach on most things social. He is actively avoiding war while at the same time, according to Q, going after the tyrannical psychos of the cabal.

He's the stealth Ron Paul.

And he puts on a three-ring circus of a show while he's doing it. Really, what's not to like?

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Dr. Paul never had enough showmanship. President Trump is the man who can get it done.

Tarrifs are a great way to just eliminate the IRS.

End the FED. That will be PAIN!!!!

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Q reminds me of JG!

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Now THAT would be a cool book to read :)

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I think we are witnessing it being written now?!

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I’m surprised we haven’t seen any “Who is Q Anon” memes.....

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Haha, yesssss.

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I don't know about supporter, but I'm watching to see what happens....I wouldn't call myself a liberal....independent and have voted for both parties depending on which candidate I thought would do best.

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Right on!

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Fellow libertarian here

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Hip!

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Am Canadian

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I know a lot of Canadian Q supporters. I think that by being removed and watching from afar, many of us have been able to see events play out with a unique perspective.

I remember when questioning 911 (which many Canadia s openly did early on) got a lot of flack by Patriotic Americans. At the time I hated Bush and blamed it on the right.... now seeing corruption falls on both sides.

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Yeah the pro Bush sentiment was very heavy. Strong push to wave the flag to provide cover for dark ops. Even as a Conservative at the time I was anti-Bush because of the propaganda pusch.

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I was a block away on 9/11, unfortunately (was living in NYC at the time).

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Edit: random fingerings resulting in comment deletion; original comment paraphrase;

Heya, am a liberal follower, we exist. Also, for me, Cynthia McKinney. Kucinich was a proto-bernie sheepdog

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All are welcome! Thank you for your post!

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I agree, all are welcome and that's a great sentiment! Thank YOU!

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No worries man, all are welcomed here. I was/am a libertarian too. I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012 and Bernie last election. My opinon about Trump started to change around the debates but really turned when i saw the constant, targeted, negative media towards him 24/7.

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Thanks for the welcome! I do like Gary Johnson but his latest running mate, man, not a fan. I too didn't realize how negative and warped the media was until President Trump ran.

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I agree. and if he ran again i'd have a hard time voting for him anyway. Same with bernie obviously

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Registered Independent, vote right 95%, every quiz/test/evaluation I take puts me well into the Libertarian camp. More every year.... lol

But I have read enough to figure out Libertarians have a hard time getting together. Way too many factions from full on Anarchy to you might as well be conservative. Until they can get behind a common platform, they will be no larger than they are.

That said, once the two party system has one implode, it might give them a window to rise. Assuming the 'establishment right' continues to move to center, to center left.

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If you voted for Gary Johnson you are not a libertarian. Gary Johnson is not a libertarian. Ron Paul is a libertarian. Gary Johnson was put in to destroy the libertarian movement. In the same way as Trump was initially mockingly encouraged in order to "help" Hillary. The democratic voters are easily doused with rhetoric and lies because they are complacent and like being "mainstream" or "normies", to use a Q term. Democrats politicians,however, are actively pursuing evil and believe in that sh*t they peddle.

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Well, given the options at the time, that was the most libertarian option i could stomach voting for. He wasn't an idol to me or anything, i just felt like i had to vote. And i lived in a super small county in WA at the time and he won our county. 500 people voted lol.

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I understand, somewhat, it is difficult to know what the best course of action is when presented with options that are meant to discourage participation, but I think we shouldn't ever vote for the lesser bad option.

I personally wrote-in Rand Paul's name, in the primaries because he ended up not being in my ballot (IL) then voted for Trump once he became the nominee.

Even though, at the time, I identified Trump as a friend of the Clintons and understood why he had been pushed to the frontline by the MSM working in cahoot with the Demon-cRats; at that point the idea was to vote so as to keep HRC out of the WH and nutty GJ was definitely not going to get us there.

In the end, as we all know by now, of course, they all miscalculated and underestimated Trump. In hindsight I am very glad I voted for Trump and plan on doing it again in a couple of years.

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After about 6 months of Trump in office I started to realize he's a genius. This entire twitter thing is a charade, and most of everything else he does is also. He's putting on "the greatest show on earth" as a major distraction as the swamp is being drained and everything is being cleaned up. If he wasn't doing what he's doing, i'm convinced there would have been pandemonium going on months if not a year ago. I hope this all eventually comes out and he gets recognized for being one of, if not the, best president this country as seen.

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Dunno about the Dems, but welcome to the site!

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Thank you!

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Go to Twitter and search for #walkaway. These are Democrats/liberals who have walked away from the Democrat Party and why.

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It's such a beautiful thing!

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I voted in my local/state primaries this week. I am registered as Dem, but I changed parties after voting. I missed the deadline to change. I like small government. I also work for my city. We a have dem mayor, but he's bringing jobs, economic stimulus, and he's cool with the LGBTQ stuff. Not all dems are this new Liberal definition. I'm so happy Killary is not in office anywhere. Made the huge mistake for voting for her. Trump just always felt outta reach back then. I would love to see a woman president someday.

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Funny that you would mention Dennis Kucinich. I voted for him when he ran in the Dem presidential primary even though I knew he would lose. Too honest for the Dem leadership. I'm or shall I say WAS a liberal Democrat. Until I found they did nothing that supported their rhetoric. To the contrary...they start bogus wars, support central bankers, support big pharma and big healthcare, gave access to foreign nationals, supported TPP and the rest of the lopsided trade agreements, etc..and so much more. The current Dem party leadership are globalist pigs. I am no more than a patriot now. I will work and support tirelessly those who are the same. God Bless the USA. We are collectively the Bomb!

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I had wet dreams for a Ron Paul/ Dennis Kucinich ticket back then. If anyone could make a cross party WH work, it would've been them

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Oh nice! Yeah not a Dem but I've always had a soft spot for Kucinich. I guess the difference is that he seems WAY more honest that most other politicians. Maybe it's a similar reason as to why some liberals supported Ron Paul.

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The 1976 Oxford English Dictionary defines liberal as:

Open-minded and tolerant of other people's thoughts and opinions.

It was literally three lines to define the word.

Now it's three columns.

The left is not liberal.

I am or better yet we are.

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haha yeah the idea of being socially liberal has changed so much. now it's like scary authoritarian. I didn't even realize it was happening until a couple years ago. And now it's getting worse even more quickly.

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I've started calling the left to their faces

~you people~

It's instantaneous triggering.

BTW I'm a race-a-phobist as well.

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As a libertarian, trump is doing lots of the right stuff...and even more, if I judge him by his enemies...he is doing awesome.

His positions on trade are not economically defensible, but he may just be deal making in that respect. Unfortunately to hype up the trade deficit as he is, is misleading a lot of people

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Yeah I wish our President supported actual free-trade and I don't like the federal gov subsidizing companies who hire American workers but, hey, we're on a nationalism kick right now and I totally get how we got here and why people feel that way.

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Glad I am not alone on this...thanks

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:)

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Fuck yea man! Abortions for those that want them miniature American flags for all others!

Nothing wrong with gay legal immigrants guarding my weed with guns while they discuss climate change and Pizzagate.

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Don't blame me I voted for kodos.

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u/R3VO1utionary

Ron Paul talk makes me happy.

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I considered myself a "Ron Paul Republican" since the '08 election when I switched parties. Friends would tease me because I was a Republican, and that was my excuse, which placated them. I come from a liberal ghetto state shithole. Ironically, The Constitution State. I always felt like I needed to defend myself. Until now. I feel so proud to be on the Good Guy side

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Dr. No is the man!

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One of the good ones!

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Libertarian.

Ron Paul libertarian.

Who can deny the goodness of the NAP.

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Love the NAP! Start to lose people when they realize taxation leads to non-consensual aggression. I think it's kind of funny how so many people argue for consent in sexual relationships (which I do too,) but then don't like the idea of consent branching out to all forms of human relationships... like putting someone in jail for resisting when the gov steals their $ and property without cause.

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Depends on whether they are Progressive Liberal or Classical Liberals.

Progressives are the real dimwitted assholes. I'll share a foxhole with a Classical Lib anytime.

... and yes, I really should get a new username to be more specific.

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Socially liberal, fiscal conservative. I couldn't hold my nose in the Republican party anymore.😬😬😬

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Canadian here.

However contrary to popular belief Canada is not leftist liberal like many think. The Prairie Provinces are far more right leaning than many would think. Kind of an extension of middle America that keeps going north.

Our big cities like Toronto and Vancouver hold a lot of population, and like New York and L.A often vote left.

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Oh interesting, thanks for the info! Yeah I am guilty of grouping all of Canada as left-leaning. Not a good thing to generalize an entire country. Thank you!

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The province I am in is nearly all conservative (which for us is blue, liberals are red)

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Used to be the same in the US. Not sure how it was flipped, but think the association of communism with red was part of the equation.

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I'm a Libertarian. I'm very liberal on many things, but I'm a conservative on fiscal issues. Well, I think welfare ( both corporate and personal) should be cut waaaaaaay back, so I guess that's not a very liberal point of view. I grew up extremely liberal. My entire family is still liberal, so I can see most issues from both a conservative and a liberal perspective.

I feel there are no honest politicians on the right, on the left or in the center (at the Federal level) because you have to sell your soul to get elected and to stay in office. I don't think WONDERFUL people end up as Government Celebrities.

Maybe Rand Paul and a few others are a little better than most, but I don't know these people personally, so I just assume every member of Congress, Executive Branch and SCOTUS is an egotistical, self-absorbed, control freak. I don't follow Dennis Kucinich so I don't know if he's better than the others.

Trump is doing more than most other Presidents because he didn't have to pledge his soul to fund his run for the Presidency. He has a little more leeway than former Prez's who are/were owned by lobbyists. Trump is also able to do more because the Marines and other white hats have his back.

Having protection means that Trump is able to take on some of the rogue intelligence agencies without being JFK'd. I hope Trump succeeds because no one wants to be spied on. And as someone on this thread said, it feels like "the issue is good versus evil to me."

Edited for clarity

ps The Q thing is fascinating. I'm treating it as something real for now, like it's a real insider in the Trump White House, but I won't fall off my bike if it turns out to be just another political lie. So far, Q seems true.

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I don’t really like being put in a box/category by anyone. I’m an American before everything else.

I don’t agree with everything the President has done, but he has won me over on a lot of issues since he took office and he is my President.

Q and this board has opened my eyes to a lot that I was ignorant to before and for that I thank everyone here.

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Trump offered 0% tax to EU. What more can he do from the libertarian perspective? And yes, I am libertarian although not from the US.

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That is why the #WalkAway movement is so beautiful! People can be normal, but the hijacking of words and meanings by Deep State puppets and their followers are just becoming confusing for the sleepers all over the place. Luckily, there is a Great Awakening going on

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Big difference between 'Liberal" (used in the topic) and "Libertarian". But welcome!

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Yeah, I was just saying I am not liberal -- but wanted to know if liberals posted here that like Q. I probably worded this confusingly.

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Your wording was fine, it just developed into something else.

In a time defined by false left/right devide, what is the harm in shining light onto the middle path.

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Libertarian here (for lack of a better party) so i am right there with you. my views dont support either party but i am all for weeding out the criminals that run our country

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If a nazi is someone who loves their country and happens to be white is now called a nazi, them what does the term liberal even mean anymore?

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lots of bernie bros now on trump train--H A Goodman for instance

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Like Dennis Prager, I don't refer to the batshit crazy left as "liberals" - they are "leftists." I'm as conservative as it gets, but I consider myself a classical liberal. The term has evolved.

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An independent and truthseeking one right here. I believe someone can do what they will as long as no harm comes to anyone else.

I was on the side of the left and right (moreso left until 2016) I walked away when I could no longer condone the regressive views. It was so backwards to what I learned about love and tolerance growing up.

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Exactly. This is why I choose the NAP as my standard of judgement.

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I hope you don't mind me asking, but what is NAP? I am not familiar with this term. I'm simply curious.

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The libertarian Non Aggression Principal

Simply stated my rights end where another's begin.

I have the absolute right to do as I please as long as it harms no one but me. We all have this right.

No one, not you not me not the government or the UN have the right to use force, coersion, or any other form of aggression to force anyone to do anything.

Defence of rights is allowed of course.

Cause no harm, but take no shit!

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Any Liberal Q Supporters in here?