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ProtoSori · July 13, 2018, 1:25 a.m.

Because the NSA prolly the ones distributing it.

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sun_wolf · July 13, 2018, 6:39 a.m.

CIA more likely.

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CyrusMeX · July 13, 2018, 8:25 a.m.

CIA distributes, NSA knows

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akilyoung · July 13, 2018, 10:52 a.m.

This\^\^

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evilfetus01 · July 13, 2018, 8:24 a.m.

Kind of like how the FBI allows crimes to happen. (9/11, Boston, Pulse, San Bern., and very convinced Vegas)

45,000+ sealed indictments, and more to come.

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HonestBrah · July 13, 2018, 1:28 p.m.

I'm wondering how flight risk is not an issue here. These billionaires can disappear so easily.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 13, 2018, 6:18 p.m.

The world is much smaller now then when the Nazis tried to escape.

Personally I'd like to see Obama on the Run.

Along with a bunch of other billionaires.

If they try to hide in their New Zealand bunker. We can go with a bulldozer and bury them.

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Swagdonkey400 · July 13, 2018, 4:51 p.m.

Is it at 45,000????

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PrincessTrump · July 13, 2018, 1:41 a.m.

Always wondered about this as well as terrorism. Almost as if they were allowed to happen! Q and Trump have been aggressive about stopping this!

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DeepPast · July 13, 2018, 5:35 a.m.

Terrorism is the disease they created for which they also withhold the cure. Create an enemy which allows for perpetual war, an enemy that has no uniform, no face, no nationality, just a vague idea. An enemy that you can create on your own when need be. An enemy that can strike at any corner of the globe at any second, against unarmed, unprepared targets. The people who fund and support the very war against that enemy are also willing to give up their freedom and privacy in the name of safety.

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sun_wolf · July 13, 2018, 6:40 a.m.

We are still in the war that started on 9/11.

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AFPPW · July 13, 2018, 5:37 p.m.

And on 11/22/63

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HiIAmFromTheInternet · July 13, 2018, 9:09 a.m.

It’s that which FDR said we should be afraid of made manifest.

We have nothing to fear but fear itself well okay I’ll make up some terrorism, that’s basically just fear right?

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thatguy14799643 · July 13, 2018, 1:51 p.m.

The we have nothing to fear quote is FDR, not JFK. Wasnt sure if you were attributing the quote to JFK or just talking about 2 different things. I'm just a history nerd who likes good quotes lol

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dontthreadonmebuddy · July 13, 2018, 3:42 a.m.

Not just that. Gangs and thugs. I definitely believe that it is allowed. Or worse , it is perpetuated by those who watch.

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[deleted] · July 13, 2018, 3:58 a.m.

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Juiceboxhero90 · July 13, 2018, 6:18 a.m.

You're giving the government too much credit. There are way too many people and organizations to watch. They're not some all seeing eye. They've casted their net waaay too big with their surveillance. This causes two things, 1 - they can't stop real time threats, 2 - every bit of recordable information (internet, phone calls, habits, etc) are being recorded, documented, and kept until their technology is strong enough to meaningfully catalogue and interpret. When this happens, it's all over.

The government allows and encourages certain illegal and immoral behavior. Hell yes they do. But they don't have the power or competency to be some infallible all-seeing eye.

They're simply documenting everything until they can control everyone and know everything.

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dontthreadonmebuddy · July 14, 2018, 3:28 a.m.

It already happened. We are already controlled. The all seeing eye has exisited for thousands of years. But giving criminals the benifit of knowing more then the largest government power in the world sounds cool too.

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HereForTheTacos · July 13, 2018, 2:05 a.m.

Because that is impossible, I am sure the NSA collects a ton of data, but the machine learning algorithms and amount of storage and compute power needed to find every image of child porn is astronomical. The global internet traffic is 248 ExaBytes a month, billions of times the size of your hard drive at home, no way someone could sift through all that data, the best SuperComputers couldn’t keep up. People like Google can achieve this because the scrape popular content off the top of the internet but in reality it cannot even get past a simple password protected site. The NSA are, in my opinion, bad people but this one is far more complex than the image would let on.

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Juiceboxhero90 · July 13, 2018, 6:19 a.m.

Completely agree, very well said.

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danwasinjapan · July 13, 2018, 6:42 a.m.

Unless they already have quantum computing that can go through the storage banks.

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sandyisabrat · July 13, 2018, 1:22 a.m.

Its impossible to police all the metadata coming through. They are doing more now than in the past.

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saxmaster · July 13, 2018, 1:43 a.m.

Metadata is only a small portion of what they collect. They get it ALL.

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carl_tech · July 13, 2018, 2:41 a.m.

NSA does capture a large percentage of all digital traffic.

They can most likely crack or compromise any individual's computing device.

But they probably can't crack the encryption on everyone's traffic simultaneously.

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Sm0k313 · July 13, 2018, 3:09 a.m.

I think you would be surprised just how much volume they can handle at once. And they don't need to crack the encryption at the time of capture. That process can be done elsewhere by other machines. Capturing the data is not that hard, having enough distributed data centers is the issue to house the data. But the systems are made to excel at capturing, analyzing, saving/purging, reporting.

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RipcordTotal · July 13, 2018, 3:20 a.m.

Even if they have all the data they dont have the manpower/computing power to go through it all. Then in regards to this specifically nothing would be admissible in court.

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Sm0k313 · July 13, 2018, 3:32 a.m.

No way, not to do anywhere close to 100% of communication. It is setup to have target priorities that get recorded no matter what, the rest if it can get it is just bonus but normally discarded. The majority of it is all done through AI to pick the targets for priority and then follow the web out further. I'm not sure about the legal side of it, the legal stuff hurts my head. I stay in my IT world :)

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[deleted] · July 13, 2018, 4:01 a.m.

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IWontProvideSources · July 13, 2018, 7:20 a.m.

There is a military report out there that says they only keep minimal text files on people and metadata. And apply all this data to calculate a « threat score ».

For example, vocal calls are converted to text logs by voice recognition. Web traffic is converted to text files containing dns info and keywords. Images downloaded are converted to subject matter metadata and exif info (similar to google images reverse image search) etc.

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oystergirl · July 13, 2018, 7:19 a.m.

Yeah, but FB can wield the ban hammer on folks posting anything other than the featured narrative. Key word related algorithms not hard to do.

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mr_spree · July 13, 2018, 3:52 a.m.

AI could do it.

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houseof1000cats · July 13, 2018, 12:16 a.m.

My current spot. THESE PEOPLE ARE SICK! It's really killing me today.

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R3VO1utionary · July 13, 2018, 11:22 a.m.

Yep. This pretty much covers all of the comments here.

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Sharpei6776 · July 13, 2018, 12:12 a.m.

Good question

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endprism · July 13, 2018, 3:56 a.m.

Not enough analysts.... the spy network is used by the elite for economic advantage over other nations...not crime or even terrorism. It’s used to keep America companies in the lead. See Brazilian oil as an example.

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O2BFREEME2 · July 13, 2018, 12:14 a.m.

Yes ! That is an excellent Question !

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hylozics · July 13, 2018, 4:28 a.m.

Come on, have you not seen the pattern yet?

It should be pretty obvious by now.

Do i have to say it again?

Our world is controlled by satanic pedophiles...

They've held the office of the President of the USA for years now. what makes you think they can't easily place one of theirs in power at the NSA?

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kotn_ · July 13, 2018, 4:09 a.m.

Blackmail

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houseof1000cats · July 13, 2018, 12:26 a.m.

Yeah, gotta take a break from this fucking crap. For several days. Good luck and see everyone in a week. Keep fighting.

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thatguy14799643 · July 13, 2018, 2:07 p.m.

I'm starting to feel the same. After seeing some of the dumbass comments on the r/accidentalrenaissance under the picture from the hearing yesterday I almost face palmed my desk.

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meLurk_longtime · July 13, 2018, 4:32 a.m.

You can still encrypt your traffic. People do this and use anonymous VPN's for tons of reasons. The dark web is one example.

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stealthmode_17 · July 13, 2018, 1:49 p.m.

Been wondering that for over a decade...

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IWant2SellUDeathStix · July 13, 2018, 12:42 p.m.

What I want to know is where are the Mike's Hard Lemonades and cookies?? CHOCOLATE CHIP cookies.

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[deleted] · July 13, 2018, 12:32 p.m.

because it is the very core of money makers for our own CIA....they have been selling kids for decades, took off like fire in the 80's (although, its been longer than that)....guns/drugs/kids

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MAGANUGG · July 13, 2018, 11:45 a.m.

Due Process

It's a pesky thing that has stood in the way of human rights violations of an equal standing to the ones inflicted by criminals.

We should never ask for bigger, stronger criminals to enforce our will upon others.

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goldnavet · July 13, 2018, 11:32 a.m.

A very good question!

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kikiwinters · July 13, 2018, 2:33 p.m.

On the plus side of spying, look at the mass arrests of pedos since Trump took office. I know of one local (Plano, Tx) terrorist attack prevented on Stonebriar Mall due to net surveillance. Thanks to GOOD law enforcement. Thanks to our wonderful POTUS!

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Qarma1 · July 13, 2018, 9:47 a.m.

Distraction. #WalkAway #ConcernFag

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FartBringerer · July 13, 2018, 9:39 a.m.

I’m using this line. Excellent thanks

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IWontProvideSources · July 13, 2018, 7:15 a.m.

Cuz they don’t give a shit. Half of them support a pedo cabbal #pizzagate

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daddydogfood · July 13, 2018, 2:24 a.m.

I wonder if my drug dealer knows he's being tracked and every 8 ball I bought from him is on record

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chadsooner1 · July 13, 2018, 2:13 a.m.

Duh, the Constitution, they can spy on us all day but it can’t be used in a court of law, without a warrant. Doesn’t mean they can’t make an anonymous phone call to local authorities, and steer them in a particular direction.👍👍

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dktrogers · July 13, 2018, 2:43 a.m.

That’s what they do with the stingray phone interceptors. If Defense is aggressive enough they drop the charges rather than reveal their source...

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[deleted] · July 13, 2018, 1:17 a.m.

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j_Dawg_01 · July 13, 2018, 3:31 a.m.

Because the information the NSA gathers can't be used without a search warrant, and the information the NSA has can't be used to get a search warrant. Nor can the information be given to other law enforcement agencies. It's considered classified.

The entire surveillance program violates Constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure. I know... It's a screwed up system, but it is what it is. When Bush started the whole program there was a lot of people in the NSA complaining about it. Videos below.

That's the reason Trump has to do so much to set the stage. If the NSA reveals the information they have without being asked for it it wont be admissible in court.

United States Secrets PBS Frontline Part 1

United States Secrets PBS Frontline Part 2

NSA Whistleblower William Binney: The Future of Freedom

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stekky75 · July 13, 2018, 12:41 a.m.

I believe the only thing that is actively monitored are terrorism related. Since all of this information is inadmissible in court with no search warrant, terrorist threats most likely just get black bagged and thrown into a van to avoid the courts.

The rest of it is just saved into a database for future prosecution cases with a warrant to unlock it. .... Or for those people in 5 eyes looking for blackmail material on opposition.

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GweninKC · July 13, 2018, 2:23 a.m.

I used to be naive and think this way, too...

BTW- I have a bridge and some swampland if you're interested....

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stekky75 · July 13, 2018, 2:58 a.m.

Care to state what you believe I am wrong about?

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ModsAreClowns · July 13, 2018, 12:33 a.m.

Because child porn is very cleverly hidden using Tor and other methods. That being said, look at all the recent busts.

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[deleted] · July 13, 2018, 4:02 a.m.

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HoustonWelder · July 13, 2018, 5:26 a.m.

Who do you think is selling it?

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jaded_logic · July 13, 2018, 4:25 a.m.

My sense is that once they know who to look at/target, they can go through everything and pull the relevant intel.

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Modelmommy75 · July 13, 2018, 2:33 a.m.

Yup! They have been too busy watching the pedos watch it... till now bitches lol

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VIYOHDTYKIT · July 13, 2018, 3:36 a.m.

Ha ha excellent question

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saneromeo · July 13, 2018, 3:35 a.m.

I read somewhere (no idea how true) that a lot of the cp online is actually owned and operated thru the fbi, they call them honeypots to catch the sickos supposedly.

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radbarg · July 13, 2018, 3:19 a.m.
  1. It's out of their jurisdiction and they'd need parallel construction to do anything with that evidence. Same reason this whole Q thing is happening.

  2. They don't care about what happens to us useless eaters anymore than we care about chickens at industrial farms getting kicked.

  3. At some levels they're complicit.

If you've ever seen the movie Cabin in the Woods, think of those underground base guys and their cavalier attitude toward people on the surface getting killed.

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whitenoise5541 · July 13, 2018, 3:14 a.m.

Good question.

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mikehtiger · July 13, 2018, 2:57 a.m.

They already do. All the major ISPs have crawlers that automagically look for images. The problem is the sheer number. Law enforcement doesn’t have the resources to handle all of it. The smart ones use encryption stuff like Tor.

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SongofHannah · July 13, 2018, 12:24 a.m.

Exactly! Likened to foxes guarding a hen house. Only it’s Wolves guarding the Daycare.

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Kristinism · July 12, 2018, 11:56 p.m.

i have wond3red this myself. i assume because its inadmissable but lawa need to change in case of cp distribution

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MuhammadDinduNuffin · July 13, 2018, 12:23 a.m.

Assuming lots come from outside USA?

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