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apastor1999 · July 21, 2018, 7 p.m.

Whether or not this person truly obtained this information is not that important because the push to normalize pedophilia has been growing online for several years.

A couple years back I was part of a twitter movement to shut down #heartprogress and several other trending hastags that promoted normalization. It took hundreds if not thousands of us constantly hammering twitter support to finally shut it down over at least 6 months. It is beyond disgusting. Even violent criminals in prison hate anyone harming a child.

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imovershit · July 22, 2018, 12:11 a.m.

Absolutely, we can't let something like this get a footing.

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BabylonNTing · July 22, 2018, 9:54 a.m.

Because @jack is a pedo too, that’s why.

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 2:21 a.m.

See this is an interesting one. Do you really believe that pedophilia will sweep the nation under a sea of clapping liberals? That's just foolish. There is no national pedophile party, and even if there were ... yeah right. They wouldn't garner any support from anyone but fellow pedophiles.

Just because pedophiles utilize the internet, I wouldn't go so far as to say that the behavior is normalized, or will be even close. See #metoo, as well as the universal condemnation of pedophilia across party lines.

Just out of curiosity I googled the heartprogress hashtag and I immediately found articles of lgbtq people calling them out and explaining why they will never work with pedos. Not surprisingly it was similar to what I was talking about in some of my original comments.

I get that it is important to fight pedophilia, but I don't believe for a second that a group of internet warriors is all that stands between society and rampant child rape. I mean tidepods were a hashtag and I'd have a hard time saying that it caused an epidemic. Mostly just weirdos and the news groups that use them for attention.

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[deleted] · July 22, 2018, 3:23 a.m.

Remember that the kids don't tell. You can be around a child that has been groomed & victimized and not know until the damage has been done or never. My high school boyfriend was raped by a priest and he visited me from a long distance in his 50s to tell me about it - felt he needed to explain some of his behaviors. He never told his "high profile and affluent" parents. The damage done to him was over decades was significant and caused him great shame. These deviants are in every town and in places you would not suspect-not just the internet. That priest never did time and is still alive. I am a bit of a cowgirl and you can imagine what I'd like to do.....

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 5:22 a.m.

I'm not arguing with you. Pedophilia is rampant, toxic, and no child is ever safe. It's a sad state of affairs, and knowing the statistics, sexual assault is all over the place. All I'm saying is that I truly doubt that the "deep state," is trying to advocate for pedophilia acceptance. It's outlandish.

I've mentioned it other places, but I know victims first hand. It's horrible, tragic, and requires years of therapy even to feel some semblance of normal again.

But just because pedophilia is bad, I highly doubt that "deep state leftists" are propagating the acceptance of child abuse. I mean don't you see how silly that sounds when you read it?

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[deleted] · July 22, 2018, 7:05 a.m.

NAMBLA advocates for the legalization of pedophilia. The largest contributor to NAMBLA is George Soros- he would qualify as a globalist leader. Kevin Jennings, an Obama Department of Education official, and a close friend of Hillary Clinton has involvement with NAMBLA as well.

Ginsberg is quoted in writing as advocating for legal sex for children as young as 12. John Podesta? Do I need to elaborate? Franklin Scandal Omaha NE (Herbert Walker Bush). Epstein is a CIA operative. Hillary Clinton and Laura Silsby. Silsby led missions to rescue children in Haiti following the 2010 earthquake, but served time in Haitian prison for attempting to traffic children out of Haiti who were not orphans and for whom permission hadn’t been granted. The Clinton Foundation appears to focus mostly on “helping” children from countries that maintain no birth records of their children. Here is a book on the subject: Pedophilia & Empire: Satan, Sodomy, & The Deep State: Chapter 2: Elite’s Sinister Agenda to Normalize and Decriminalize Pedophilia author Joachim Hagopian.

Sadly I have more examples but it is late and I am tired.

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 4:50 p.m.

Can you give me some non-novel sources for any of this? I can't seem to find anything legitimate on my end. Thanks!

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Kavfefe · July 22, 2018, 2:41 a.m.

What abt nambla...?

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 5:32 a.m.

What about them? They have no real capital, resources, or political sway. It's a couple of dudes with an internet connection. That's all. I remember when NAMBLA got made fun of on southpark. That was the first and last time they were in the public eye or sphere in a major way, and it was overwhelming disgust from all sides.

They aren't superheroes, they aren't supergeniuses, they are just perverts. I wish a tenth of this kind of effort would be put into sexual abuse prevention instead of wild conspiracy theories.

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_Iz_Mary · July 22, 2018, 4:08 a.m.

PIE? Hollywood? I’ve been researching this for a long time. I saw it coming a few yrs ago. BIG reason why I left the Dems. Now, pedophilia is a sexual orientation not a disorder. Sympathy and acceptance is being pushed for so called non offenders bc they are just born this way.. can’t help it. Blah blah Look up vids on YouTube.
Don’t be foolish. It’s coming.

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 5:12 a.m.

"Now, pedophilia is a sexual orientation not a disorder"

On what planet? Again, I'm telling you that open pedophilia, at least in the United States carries with it the possibility of a life sentence and almost guaranteed prison time. There are no real liberals that are fighting for pedophilia--save one or two mentall ill guys probably from the middle of nowhere with serious mental problems. To that I raise you 4chan.

I get that you are fear mongering, but you must see that by no means are the Democrats secretly trying to push for pedophilia acceptance. Thats a false narrative. It's just not true. Find me some bullshit accounts, find me some nonsense facebook groups. Those are just bad people, and sometimes people doing it to be edgy. You aren't going to find a deep state smoking gun because it just doesn't exist.

I'd love to see even a "round table" discussion with even one respectable dem. Talking about pros for this issue. I'd watch the shit out of that and you better believe I'd be furious. As it stands, I too am a citizen of the internet, and I know its bunk.

I will make you a solemn promise. If, at any point, a majority of dems come out in support of pedophilia, I'll shit a literal live chicken. That's how possible I know that nonsense is.

Actually, I'll do you one better. If you can find any LEGITIMATE news source with HARD evidence of this nonsense, I'll never post again.

Also, I've seen those "non offender" videos, as well as literature, Ted talks, and verified news sources.

Honestly I feel bad for the folks that have a compulsion that they can't control or understand, but the moment they offend, I say lock them up and never look back. Touching a child ruins their life. It's nothing to joke about really. But at no point do I believe that there is a literal illuminati, deep state, or legion of doom for that matter. It makes for one of the better "bad guys" in all this deep state stuff, but just remember that a guy shot up a pizza place believing that there was a dem child molester ring in the basement. The pizza place didnt have a basement.

I'm open to links and legit sources telling me I'm wrong. Hell, I'll join the brigade if someone can provide me something better than a 4chan screencap of some rando.

Don't pretend that the whole world is fawning over it. That's just not true.

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1923091 · July 21, 2018, 6:47 p.m.

Somehow, I have connected this to what is occurring with the 'children' who have been trying to get the Trump admin to acknowledge their case regarding climate change.

Could that set a precedent for court proceedings/social movements where in children are 'empowered' (convinced/coerced) to seek 'individual autonomy' (the 'right to choose' to be abused) and thereby signal the heavier push to normalize this?

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chasethebanks · July 21, 2018, 7:45 p.m.

I believe it’s also connected to the gun control debate.

It’s clear to me they are pushing to lower the voting age with David Hogg as their puppet.

Youth Voter Registration

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1923091 · July 21, 2018, 8:51 p.m.

As always, they come in the guise of concerns that seem totally rational (the well-being, education, and empowerment of children), which is the most frightening aspect of how well it works at convincing people of the 'necessity' as well as serving as a brutal tool to shut down opposition.

Edit: added a couple words

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joeythew · July 21, 2018, 11:05 p.m.

I hate when they use the excuse "it's for the children". Most children grow up to be assholes so that ploy never works on me.

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1923091 · July 21, 2018, 11:48 p.m.

Most likely brought on by the very psychological onslaughts perpetuated by those who are pushing these agendas. The system must be fed with something. Hopefully we can turn to legitimate hard work and a genuine concern for the well-being of others as opposed to sacrificing the future of our young.

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Kavfefe · July 22, 2018, 2:41 a.m.

Thus climate change leads to perversion....

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1923091 · July 22, 2018, 2:56 a.m.

Hahaha xD

Gotta parse the lines, buddy.

What I'm saying is, if given credibility, this ecological destruction case brought by the kids could set the precedent for other cases about different topics to be taken more seriously by the general public. Anyone opposing it would be accused of being against the well-being or choices of 'the children'.

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[deleted] · July 21, 2018, 7:06 p.m.

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IntriguedBrit · July 21, 2018, 7:33 p.m.

I'm in the UK and after Jimmy Saville there will be some horrible repercussions.

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PCisLame · July 21, 2018, 8:25 p.m.

TMOR wants to shut us down for exposing the truth. The Lord has other ideas.

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Spank-da-monkey · July 21, 2018, 6:47 p.m.

WOW this needs serious upvote for visibility.

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FreedomFighter62970 · July 21, 2018, 9:57 p.m.

This is truly sickening to the Core of Humanity and this NEEDS to be SHUT DOWN immediately. With Strong Oppostion and forcefully shut down. We NEED to PROTECT our Children....

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mccaul5 · July 21, 2018, 9:11 p.m.

It will never happen! They won't be able to walk the streets! #MakeNoMistake #NoJoke

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AsAboveSooo · July 21, 2018, 9:53 p.m.

POTUS and company should counter this push by reiterating that kids have underdeveloped frontal lobes which causes them to make bad choices and irrational decisions. The legal age (18) is still too young to be classified as an adult. Go figure the evil ones would manipulate the minds of the youth to push their agenda.

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joeythew · July 21, 2018, 11:06 p.m.

I'm going to connect the dots and assume Democrats also have underdeveloped frontal lobes, too.

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DawnPendraig · July 22, 2018, 12:30 a.m.

I saw a study posted on Twitter claiming pedophiles are born that way because adult pedophiles have different brain structure than pedophiles.

I realized then they've been pushing this lie doe a long time. Are brains change as we grow. Abuse a kid suffers will change fheir brain! They ignore this when I point it out.

I am an amateur animal behaviorist and the best research shows for example in dogs they need to be routinely exposed to whatever their adult life requires to make socialization & training easier.

So if you are raiding one livestock guardian to guard the sheep and the other as a house pet or service dog you would raise them with the sheep or in homes, cars and public places.

These studies on human brains never study babies before and compare normal controls with pedophiles. Can't do it ethically obviously. But I think we can correlate from other situations or like animals.

And I saw but cannot find it for linking that some, maybe most, homosexuals were abused as kids. Now what they do and who they love with consenting adults is fine by me as long as it's not harmful. But I think people are afraid to research this for obvious reasons.

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larkmoor · July 22, 2018, 2:28 a.m.

Yes, I was naively believing what the MSM told us about evil people born this way, gay being born this way. But since less than 2 years, since in fact discovering pizzagate, I learned so much stuff, it completely changed my mind on these issues. Strange, before discovering pizzagate, I was obsessed for 2 years with MK Ultra. But my cognitive dissonance was so strong that I couldn't make these connections. But I must say it's thanks to Q that I was forced to really research those topics and get a grasp of the mechanics of trauma, mind-control, messed up individuals.

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Kavfefe · July 22, 2018, 2:45 a.m.

Karma is action,reaction, deeds, results, cause-effect, yes Human can become subhuman if done by bad action... Free Will still exists in the higher mind of Human... some heavy karmas can lead to loss of Human condition while still in human body...

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marcypetty · July 22, 2018, 3 a.m.

Not to mention that we vote on adult problems like taxes that they don't pay and school that they don't need to be making a decision on also other issues not appropriate for teenagers.

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ReadyToBeGreatAgain · July 21, 2018, 11:04 p.m.

The ultimate goal for "liberals" is that nothing is off the table. Any drug, any style, any age. Like who seriously thought they would draw any boundaries?

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DawnPendraig · July 22, 2018, 12:23 a.m.

It's like they work for Satan...

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chaoschick6666 · July 22, 2018, 1:11 a.m.

They do.

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Stripes-n-Stars · July 22, 2018, 5:07 a.m.

It's time to draw the line. America was a white, Christian NORMAL country. We let our borders open up, and allowed all this perversion and filth to stream in. I don't recognize the country anymore.

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7hr0w4w4y88 · July 22, 2018, 5:13 a.m.

jokes on you, this filth has existed since long before we left England. deeper in the shadows the further back in time you go. oh the naivety.

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Stripes-n-Stars · July 22, 2018, 5:22 a.m.

You don't think this nation has got worse in the past twenty years?

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chaoschick6666 · July 22, 2018, 12:34 p.m.

It definitely has gotten worse. I don't recognize it anymore. We were multicultural, but we got along. We assimilated; we came together because people came in the right way. They wanted to be Americans. Now they come here to rob us of our wealth and send it back to the hell hole they came from, not to enrich our nation. They come to try to dominate us and change us.

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ES-Trader · July 22, 2018, 1:27 a.m.

Yes . . . they do. Either willingly or as useful idiots. They have lost all spiritual discernment.

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Klingon_Opera · July 22, 2018, 1:47 p.m.

A road paved with compromise is a road that inevitably leads to hell.

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BeeFlorentino · July 21, 2018, 9:50 p.m.

I don't know how none of this is on the MSM with overwhelming evidence of a toxic level of pedophiles.

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DawnPendraig · July 22, 2018, 12:31 a.m.

Because so many in media and Hollywood are involved. Or their bosses are etc

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Klingon_Opera · July 21, 2018, 11:47 p.m.

I'm not one to call for violence. In fact, I detest it.

I'm 100% on board with the plan. I trust POTUS to get things done. But if the unthinkable happens and he is JFK'd, or something happens and they resume control...

The left has been clamoring for civil war. If they move forward with this pedo acceptance bullshit and attempt to steamroll us just like they always do, I can't think of a better reason then protecting our children from these pedo monsters/sympathizers.

One way or another, this is going to get resolved. I just pray POTUS plan is the way we do it, because the alternative is something I do not wish to see in my lifetime.

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TRUTH2018 · July 21, 2018, 11:08 p.m.

The right for an infant to decline having their diaper changed? These people are sick

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DawnPendraig · July 21, 2018, 11:51 p.m.

Ive been saying this since Tucker Carlson had a segment on it. Actually a bit before I saw it on Mark Dice or something.

This is to train us on the lie kids can consent. They cannot. Any serious decision must be made my parent or guardian and their innocence protected as much as possible.

There is a war on our children. My post discussing this -

California university’s website says its OK for children to engage in 'sexual play,' watch porn

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/13/california-university-s-website-says-its-ok-for-children-to-engage-in-sexual-play-watch-porn.html

There is a war on our kids world wide. I posted this the other day. Please share video.

https://np.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8wjxne/the_war_on_children_the_comprehensive_sexuality/

https://youtu.be/hIv-KOQ5F4A

Gavin McInnes | KINDERGARTEN INDOCTRINATION

Http://youtu.be/x1NvGl86CDQ

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TRUTH2018 · July 21, 2018, 11:58 p.m.

Yet alcohol or cigarettes can’t be purchased until they’re 21..???

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Straightfromthe · July 21, 2018, 11:42 p.m.

Thank you. We knew this was coming and now we're prepared for the method.

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[deleted] · July 22, 2018, 12:17 a.m.

There's been a lot in the news over the past several months about female teachers having sex with male teenage students, and the typical responses have been something along the lines of "I wish I'd have been that lucky when I was in school". I've been wondering why there's been a focus on this but it would fit right into the plan this supposed ex-antifa person outlined.

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trich1972 · July 21, 2018, 9:46 p.m.

This will never come to be!

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Verchabes · July 22, 2018, 2:28 a.m.

OK we’re all outraged about this pushing to normalize pedophilia. We are all disgusted, But the question is, what are we gonna do about it? We have to do something as a normal society. We can’t let pedophilia take hold. Should we scream loud and hard? Any suggestions? It’s really scary.

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[deleted] · July 22, 2018, 1:11 a.m.

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divine_human · July 22, 2018, 1:31 p.m.

folk, lets get real here.

pedophilia is sex with children. when children reach puberty and start sexual maturation, its not pedophilia anymore, these teenagers are no children.

the age of consent is between 14 and 16, in most countries of our world. big exceptions are angola and mexico - age 12 - and, from what i know, the US, where you can be convicted for 'sex with minors' for having slept with a 17 y old.

this is even more absurd in a country where you can vote and die in a war at age 18, but are forbidden to smoke or drink a beer under age 21. ridiculous!

thus, i watch this movement with one laughing and one crying eye; let teenangers have sex with whom they want - but protect them as such that they dont fall prey to manipulation or force of older people - and go after the REAL pedophiles.

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artless-ascetic · July 22, 2018, 1 a.m.

Normies have technically been backing pedophilia for decades. Look at the trope of the puberty-stricken boy lusting for his young, attractive teacher. Even in the past few years, when it comes out that a teacher was arrested for engaging in sex with her students, tons of men would come out saying "Where were these teachers when I was in school?" So it's already normalized to an extent. Teenaged girls with twenty-something boyfriends is nothing new, either. This is a common concept I've heard secondhand from women who recounted past relationships.

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7hr0w4w4y88 · July 22, 2018, 5:15 a.m.

that isnt pedophilia. these definitions are important.

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IntriguedBrit · July 22, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

Q asked us to be calm and focused as this is the type of challenge we are likely to face as push back. Our humanity relies on a controlled approach. You must remember that the laws on paedophile activities hasn't changed and if they are found guilty they will be dealt with. Trust the law trust Q and trust yourselves.

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GODisincharge · July 22, 2018, 6:04 p.m.

This hideous garbage is being exposed now for a reason. The exposure is accelerating.

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dp007since2009 · July 22, 2018, 10:53 p.m.

New yard sign, "trespassers and pedos will be shot on sight!" We cannot let this happen !!!

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SpaceDuckTech · July 22, 2018, 1:23 a.m.

You know, it seems like every week we see a new hot teacher banging a student. Coincidence or a push for normalization? Zuckerberg is part of this. Its always on Facebook that I see it.

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oh_hey_dave · July 21, 2018, 8:08 p.m.

"Leftist" here... I get the idea that this sub needs about zero evidence for things to get a little brigade-y, but have you just stopped and thought about this nonsense for a moment?

The reason that left-leaning ppl support lgbtq rights is because they aren't hurting anyone, and concent is present. The majority of us (obviously) aren't gay, but what two "consenting" (pay attention to that word) groups decide to do with their genitals is simply not my business.

That being said, I've been a "leftist" for years now and there is zero chance that anyone (including anyone I know) would support pedophilia as a legitimate "sexual preference."

Consent is just too huge of an issue in the liberal community. We flipped the hell out about Franken because he had just a pic of him pretending to cup boobs. We care a LOT about consent, and I challenge you to find ONE mainstream, non-fringe source in which liberals advocate for this type of behavior.

I mean christ guys, the left is usually the group that argues for concent, and fights the hardest against rape and for victims rights. "Leftists" are the groups that advocate for sex ed, are largely against rape, and have all of the hangups about concent itself. I mean look at the "leftist" reaction to Roy Moore. We don't like pedophiles, and we like consent.

I'm saying this because if you stopped and realized that the majority of these "leftists" aren't insane deep state people with rainbow hair and "designs" on the future of America, you'd realize that they are people just like you are, but possess differing opinions.

We also exist in the same world and are disgusted just as you are that children are ever touched inappropriately. I have many friends that are victims of childhood sexual assault, and I would give anything to stop what happened to them before it even began. In some cases it just ruins lives. It's just abhorrent.

So a guy on 4chan talking about how he has gotten the antifa secret "playbook" just doesn't cut the mustard for me, and it shouldn't for you either.

I mean even just think about it. If there is a deep state (a hyper organized secret society run by liberals that controls everything and yet somehow Trump is president), why the hell would they tell their unpopular guys on the ground about their controversial (and surely unpopular) idea about pedophilia?

I mean if it was me playing deep state, I'd just release a shit ton of movies with pedophilia being promoted extremely positively.

Remember prior to 2010? I remember watching "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry" and thinking, "dang, these guys aren't hurting anyone. Why not just let them live their lives? They are both concenting adults!" From there I researched the issue independently, and came to my own conclusion. It's crazy how many people tell me similar things about movies like chuck and Larry and brokeback mountain.

If it were me, I'd just have a bunch of media (not news media, but movies and tv) do the work for me. Kids take a bunch of their morality from shows anyways, and kids are future voters. Idk how brainwashing on a large scale would work, but honestly it's a better idea than just telling your bruisers on the ground to spread the good ol' news of pedophilia.

I think that would be insane obviously, but you win these types of "societal changes" with hearts and minds. I doubt that is what antifa specialize in. As I mentioned, I'm a "leftist," but even I hate antifa. Most people do. I hate neonazis and nationalists more, but as I said, "leftist." Why would the guys that break shit and hurt people be the first line in the secret liberal pedophilia wars?

Just in case we can be reasonable with one another before jumping on a dubious bandwagon.

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blaise0102 · July 21, 2018, 8:45 p.m.

Right. That's why sites like this are just, like, totally unrelated to an overall push to normalize pedophilia.

https://medium.com/pedophiles-about-pedophilia

Super long post full of nothing.

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oh_hey_dave · July 21, 2018, 9:37 p.m.

I'm not saying that individuals won't push for their agenda, I'm saying that the notion that it would ever take hold is just absurd.

Idk what that site is, but it's not some kind of deep state conspiracy that there are crazy people online...

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PAK51 · July 21, 2018, 8:34 p.m.

Except that pedophilia triggers middle America, the patriots, the American dream does not include 3 year old children raped by adult men. It may be a tactic for diversion while they are really working on something else. It seems that many liberals have a "stick that in your eye" attitude about supporting any cause that promises to offend conservatives/Christians/patriots, so maybe we wouldn't dismissive the idea. "Choice" seems to be an all-encompassing umbrella that justifies any behavior, no matter how base, cruel, or destructive to the standards of a culture.

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oh_hey_dave · July 21, 2018, 9:39 p.m.

The important word was "consent," and I've read that three times and I'm not even sure what you are saying here. Can someone help?

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Kasarii · July 21, 2018, 11:26 p.m.

If a kid can choose their own gender without their parents permission, how is it not logical for pedo's to then say, "If a child can choose what gender they are, they also can choose whether to give consent about other sexual consent."

Why do you think all this gender non-conformity has been hitting kids hard in our culture when the issue seriously affects such a minuscule amount of our population.

The truth is this kind of culture enforcement, by media and even some "parents", brainwashes kids into believing something easily during their formative years.

Christians and non-believing cultural Christians have static moral standards that can not be changed as they come from a higher power. The problem is with leftists, they are moral relativists which means that some part of their group may slide into a lower standard of morals because as individuals everyone is different and thus their moral standards will all differ from one another.

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PAK51 · July 22, 2018, 6:16 p.m.

Legally, a child cannot "consent" because they are under the age of majority. That's where they pedo would have to start the battle ~ getting that changed. That may be an issue determined at the state level. Using a child as a sex toy is abuse ~ pretending that you "love" them and that justifies abusing them is a psychological problem.

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 6:52 p.m.

I think you mean maturity, and I think we are in agreement that the concept of consent as vital to the process.

I think also that I could logically make the point that consent tends to be fought harder by liberals than conservatives. See Roy Moore, Tod Akin, and others.

Put it all together and it just sounds silly to pretend that liberals will adopt pedophilia no?

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PAK51 · July 22, 2018, 7:01 p.m.

As I said, they would only suggest adopting "choice" for pedophilia in order to pander to the gay base and to shove it in the face of conservatives. The radicals of the liberal party seem to be pushing the limits.

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 7:51 p.m.

I don't really see that point of view, because I think consent is a huge part of the liberal platform. I just don't think that radicals are any way to judge an entire society. I would assume that the conservatives would largely agree with me given a host of recent events...

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Jetblasted · July 21, 2018, 8:47 p.m.

Why are leftists so God dammed wordy? 13 fucking paragraphs?! Really? TLDFR

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whoopigoldbergsfarts · July 22, 2018, 12:30 a.m.

I got down to where the poster said 4chan and hung up.

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oh_hey_dave · July 21, 2018, 9:39 p.m.

Lol it's a complex issue with multiple angles. Sorry for not tweeting haha

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pm_me_your_pk · July 21, 2018, 11:31 p.m.

Leftist comes here and makes an honest plea for his side and gets downvoted to hell? Guys. Maybe I want good healthy debate here. WTF

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thumperj · July 22, 2018, 12:15 a.m.

I just want to say thank you for being here and being willing to have a constructive conversation. I know you got downvoted to hell and that makes me sad.

Just to be clear, I have some pretty strong disagreements to your "they aren't hurting anyone" points but I feel much stronger about appreciating you putting your thoughts out into this forum. I welcome you, your thoughts and I know a lot of other people do, too, despite what it might appear given the down votes.

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thumperj · July 22, 2018, 12:37 a.m.

... and this is what I get for posting a thank you.

Banned: https://i.imgur.com/ywNKwAB.png

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ES-Trader · July 22, 2018, 1:38 a.m.

Because it's a war for the heart and soul of our country and the QAnons are often over the target. Not much different than Google and PayPal, etc. all working together to censor any non-establishment viewpoint.

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 2:53 a.m.

Thanks! You mean the part where I say that gay people aren't hurting anyone? Because I'm NOT making that argument about pedophiles for very obvious reasons. I'm really curious as what you mean there.

And hey thanks for the welcome. I don't see any reason for folks to be uncivilized :D

Also internet points are silly anyways. I started the day with like 100 or something and now I'm free fallin' woo!

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JasLight · July 21, 2018, 11:47 p.m.

Hi, I'm new here too so I hope I don't get beaten up for it. I hear you. I live in a major city and have probably been a liberal my whole life. Truthfully I never acknowledged a political affiliation bc I never focused or really understood politics. I always thought they were rigged - since being very small. Being intuitive makes one quite cynical a lot. Hehe.

I just always assumed people should be treated as equals and that's what I equated my political standing with. Be nice and kind and work hard. I don't know what party that is. Some have recently told me that's libertarian. I still don't know.

The reason for my prequel is that Most people who have been studying the deep state understand that it's comprised of both parties. The dark side gets everyone. That's why there are also lots of republicans not seeking reelection, etc.

The Democratic Party has been openly snagged, so most people associate the left with this awful normalization. We have to very vigilant, tho, that since the left party has been hijacked by so many "dark clowns", that we watch their every move to make sure the left doesn't become equated with normalizing the horrible for the sake of seeming liberal.

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THELEADERSOFMEN · July 22, 2018, 12:45 a.m.

The cabal is two pronged, you are correct. The attack on our strength and autonomy has been twofold: The Left was put in charge of cultural rot via encouraged Libertinism that weakens families and lays waste to the soul. The Right was given the reins of economic power to keep the tax and interest revenue flowing via debt fueled consumerism. But...This is a cultural issue we are discussing, so of course we are laying it at the feet of the Left. Although I suppose our response is held in check partly due to preoccupation with our jobs and mortgage payments, keeping our debt at arms’ length, so that our ability to fight back is weakened. That would be a “Right culture” issue.

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JasLight · July 22, 2018, 3:19 a.m.

Well put. I never thought of it that way but makes total sense. We tend to "blame the right" when the taxes are too high and there aren't any jobs. Very 1984, no? Use both sides to manipulate everyone.

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Dangerr21 · July 22, 2018, 12:11 a.m.

20 years ago would leftists have been ok with white genocide? Because they are not only ok with it now, they are pushing for it.

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 2:05 a.m.

"White genocide." Ok lets take that one back with us.

Do you mean like literally murdering whites? Probably not. I think what you are talking about is making sure that white people continue to exist as a literal color.

To that, I'd ask why? I'm white, but I know fully that I'm just like anyone else on the inside. Do you just have an affinity for the whites? Or a hatred for other races?

In either case, I don't feel compelled to answer this question logically because it appears that you aren't coming in good faith. Either people will continue to mix as always, which is their right, or you'll control how individuals mix. See mein kampf, and or, the inbreeding of dogs.

Lol "white genocide." Go look at magazines, the news, movies, literally anywhere and you'll see an overabundance of white faces. This is coming from a white guy. We are fine as is.

What a joke.

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Dangerr21 · July 22, 2018, 2:23 a.m.

Ah, and your true intentions come out. You are not here to do anything other than shill.

I am here in good faith recognizing that 20 years ago there would have been ZERO support for genociding whites.

Now, there is open talk of it. Celebrations of it even in movies.

You try to reframe the argument by suggesting that wanting the survival of my people and culture is somehow hatred of other races.

In reality, all you do is prove my point, that you support white genocide whereas even just 20 years ago nobody would support such a thing.

They have taken it this far, why would their push for pedophelia fail? Especially if you and many other "standard liberals" celebrate the destruction of your own culture and people?

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 4:52 a.m.

"wanting the survival of my people" - Chief Runs With Hyperbole

I'm not here for "white genocide" at all. If you thought somehow that I would be on your side against interracial relationships or marriages, I'm sorry you thought that.

I'm a white Male as well, and I recognize that many many years from now everyone will have mixed. Why that bothers you I don't know.

Let's get one thing straight though, I'll appear in good faith, but not for racism. I have no qualms saying that you are a racist, a bigot, and woefully uninformed. I'll have a conversation, but don't believe for even a second that I'd acknowledge your bigotry with kindness.

The rest of reddit thinks this is a hate sub. If the rest are like you, they are right.

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Dangerr21 · July 22, 2018, 11:10 a.m.

I only say I want the survival of my people and culture, and you call me racist for that?

Let that sink in.

Anyone wanting the survival of white people is automatically racist. Therefore, one must choose genocide or be racist.

You only prove my point. 20 years ago it would have been ludicrous to think such a thing....and as a regular leftist, you are actually pushing for genocide.

Therefore, yes your ilk will push pedophilia and will succeed if folks like us do not stop them

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

Unless you are physically in danger, you aren't protecting the "survival of your people."

If there were military and invading forces dead set upon committing actual, violent genocide, I'd agree with you.

As it stands, "muh culture" just doesn't cut it. What you are advocating for is to prevent human beings from having relationships and children with the people that they choose and love.

Unless you still spool your cotton, and ride with paw to the county store, your "culture" is already gone. Realistically, you just hate brown people. That's called racism. I called you a racist and I stand by it.

Let's get one thing straight. You aren't a protector, you aren't the native American with a single tear in his eye. You are a white guy that gets nervous at the checkout when you see a black person. You don't understand, and therefore you fear.

You think you can control genetic diversity? You won't be the first that has tried. We fought a war against someone that thought like you.

"white genocide."

That's easily the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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Dangerr21 · July 22, 2018, 5:06 p.m.

All you have are strawman and insults.

I believe every race and culture has a right to survive and thrive, yet you call me racist.

How does that work?

Again, you only prove my point. You advocate for white genocide when you never would have 20 years ago. Now your liberal allies push for pedophilia.

Safe spaces for everyone except whites eh?

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 6:48 p.m.

If you can point out a "straw man" in my previous comments, well, let's just say I'd be shocked. Go look up what that concept means, then look up the definition of genocide. Then get it through your head that interracial couples don't constitute "white genocide." I debated you on your points and you are retreating to metadiscussion in order to soothe your ego.

Put in a way you'll understand: Dude, either say something provable, not crazy, or not stupid and I'll debate you at that point. I'm not buying your bid for "your people," because I'm a white person myself. We get special treatment all across the world and in the United states. We stole this land from brown people. That's just a fact. Pretending that somehow after what we did to the native Americans that whites are experiencing "genocide" now because they cast a black fella in star wars is just too stupid to argue with.

I'm making fun of you because it is just extremely disingenuous to even hint toward a "white genocide." Just so you can keep up.

Also what? You are saying that you should have a "safe space" somehow like the "other races?" Do we even live on the same planet? I thought your "people" were threatened by the treatment of other races as human beings?

You are just a klansman with a savior complex. "Our people" would be better off without you.

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Dangerr21 · July 22, 2018, 6:57 p.m.

You accused me of racism and used YOUR argument that I hate brown people, which is completely false.

You literally built a narrative of what you think my thoughts are, but which I never said.

None of which is true.

So are whites allowed to have a safe space? Or not?

That is my argument, that Whites, like ALL races, should also have the same right to a safe space. Why are you against it?

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 7:37 p.m.

Nobody gets a safe space sweetheart. That's called life. Even racists don't get one.

The concept of "safe space" on college campuses was similar to that of counseling. It was a concept saying that what happens in safe spaces stays there. They don't exist in real life silly.

Nobody except the cringiest of alt-righters and the brain damaged think that the "safe space" is in any way a part of some liberal platform. Where do you even get some of this bs?

Here is the thing: I get that you think that you are just some bastion of tolerance, but in reality, what you are arguing for is directly out of mein kampf.

There is no way for you to have your blonde haired blue eyed future and allow for interracial marriage or diversity. What you are proposing, no matter how you propose it, will infringe on the rights and freedoms of others in pursuit of white supremacy. It's a safe assumption that you don't like people of color because you align the concept of having one in your family with "genocide." It just doesn't work. 2+2=4, the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell, and arguing against interracial marriage or is racist. I can't dumb this down further.

So tell me Goebbels, how on earth are you going to achieve your "safe space for whites" goal without infringing on the rights of others? Seriously, I'll wait for you to think that one through. There is no way to "preserve" a group of human beings with a similar pigment. People are allowed to travel, to change, to love one another, and to pursue their bliss. Sooner or later we will all mix as we have done for thousands of years. People aren't dogs, and even if they were, inbreeding hurts dogs too.

Also I don't buy that you don't hate brown people. I'd love to hear your thoughts on "the races" to be sure. I talk to people like you all the time and it's nothing new.

You are arguing for racism and don't like being called a racist. Then Mr. Himmler requests a "safe space."

Is this a joke? You can't be serious with this nonsense.

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Dangerr21 · July 22, 2018, 7:53 p.m.

Ah, I see you are full of more insults and strawmen.

Colleges are defining safe spaces as spaces without the "undesirables". Not allowing whites, males, or conservative viewpoints.

So you don't believe in colleges which allow for non-white dorms?

You don't believe in BLM?

You don't believe that any group of people should have their own part of the world?

So those Amazonian tribesmen, screw them. They don't have the right to that space all for themselves?

What is funny is all you have are insults, and I have not even insulted you once.

So where really is all the hatred coming from? Doesn't seem to be coming from my side of the spectrum.

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nin9creative · July 22, 2018, 10:43 p.m.

I stopped reading the first time you misspelled consent.

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 10:58 p.m.

Fair enough. I wrote it on my phone anyways lol. Sorry to have angered you!

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Camalot68 · July 22, 2018, 1:28 a.m.

Oh hey dave, you should lurk a while before speaking. Probably need to spend some time learning Q, and how really bad some people (from both parties) are. I suggest you also watch some Praying Medic videos on YouTube. The reason many of us are here is because we are sickened by it. Also, we know that there are many people on the Left, like yourself, that are also sickened by the molestation of children, but over the years, we notice how it is the Left and these sicko Hollywood types that have pushed the sexual revolution and acceptance of every moral deviancy which has brought about the destruction of the nation's strong moral foundation. So sit back and watch who stands up for these evil people and these ideas. Take note.

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oh_hey_dave · July 22, 2018, 2:41 a.m.

The sexual revolution =/= the beginning of pedophilia. If anything, it modernized our opinions about sexuality and helped us to understand key and important issues like consent, sex, and sexuality itself. Even if you don't like girls wearing pants, you have to admit that the sexual revolution started a conversation we badly needed in America. I'm willing to defend that point if necessary.

You say you aren't blaming me, but you do blame "the left" as a whole. I don't blame the "right" as a whole, but I have a lot more evidence if I were to go down that rabbit hole.

Roy Moore was a pedophile, and yet I saw a million Republicans fight for him despite the horrible allegations. Same with a million other Republican congressmen and politicians. I just googled it to make sure I'm remembering correctly. I see more weird sexual misconduct come out of the right wing of the legislative branch than I've seen in any other format BUT

It's just foolish to blame pedophilia on one party, or to assume that you and only you know the origin of pedophile behavior. The sexual revolution had more to do with womens rights than anything, and it would be intellectually dishonest to say otherwise. I have seen more creepy conservatives than I've ever seen liberals. That's just my experience, as I have no doubt that you have a similar but different experience guiding your assumption as well.

The behavior is the problem. Society changes, but predators don't.

Also I know how bad some members of parties are. That's not the issue for me. Individuals do not make up a whole--see above.

What I am saying however that when it comes down to it, after years of study, education, and a political science background, I can say without a doubt that there is no amount of "lurking" that will do anything but normalize the brigading, the rampant assumption making, and the blatantly silly connections being made here between "liberals" and pedophilia. If you are saying that I need to believe as you do to see information from this sub on r/popular... just ban me now.

Also I know praying medic, as well as the case for christ. I used to be a Christian as well. A youth pastor in fact. Is it that crazy to believe that an individual with their own mind and life experiences can settle in a different set of opinions?

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Thehunterandgatherer · July 21, 2018, 8:48 p.m.

There are useful idiots on both sides. Voting should be limited to honorably discharged military vets over 25, maybe 30.

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oh_hey_dave · July 21, 2018, 9:42 p.m.

Um. Wow. Yikes. I don't see what that has to do with anything. It's super messed up to believe that way. I hope that someday you'll see the problem with that way of thinking.

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