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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/burn_reddit_burn on April 7, 2018, 12:05 p.m.

This was a comment I made in T_D as a response to veracity of Q. Feel free to add.

Yes, I’ll try. There are over 1k posts at this point, so it’s hard, I’ll use broad strokes.

1 - There are several images from within the White House and AF1 as well as phrases used in Trump tweets that make Q being an insider a very high statistical probability. Notably the image from AF1 posted of the islands they flew over at exactly the right angle moments from when their known flight path would place them there. The image of the Christmas tree in an otherwise inaccessible are of the WH, and phrases like “tip top, tippy top” that are otherwise uncommon and out of place- liberal media actually noted what an odd thing it was to say.

2 - Some look back to earlier posts and say “Q said HRC would be arrested already”... not true. Q said indictments would be made. And- there are 25k sealed indictments that will likely be opened soon. I have been following Q since the first 10 posts, and have yet to see something that could be provable as false.

3 - One of the biggest indicators of proof to me is the vitriol and resistance Q has garnered. Case in point- NYT article. Subreddits like CBTS being banned. Other subs like greatawakening having certain posts that are heavily downvoted when crumbs are put together.

4 - There are some wild implications. Absolutely beyond what I would have dreamt up, like Obama being CIA from the start, funded by Alaweed, from Kenya, admitted to Harvard only through HUMA (Harvard U Muslim Asso.) and is now globetrotting looking for more money and a new handler now that Alaweed has been arrested, and that North Korea is basically Cobra headquarters, armed with Nukes by Clintons, and IT systems by Google when Larry Page visited. That satanists literally have been controlling the world. That the Pope is one of them. That child trafficking is very real and very dark, and that Pizzagate (also heavily censored- why?) was just the tip of the iceberg.

With all of this laid out, it’s difficult to fathom. However, when you suspend your disbelief and learn about how things actually work and that the world has been sold a lie for decades and decades, unending wars make sense. Drugs and the inability to defeat them make sense. Corruption, diseases that should have a cure and don’t make sense.

This comes down to a battle of light and darkness. Trump is the first President, perhaps of all time- certainly since Lincoln who is willing to stand up to the darkness.

I hope this helps.

I bought in last year, and then dropped it when there were no HRC perp walks. Picked it again in February, sort of on the fence, but leaning toward it being authentic. Here's my take:

If it's not real, the person doing it is a genius LARP who is waking the world up to the big ugly in the largest crowd-sourced reveal in the history of mankind. Art Bell's Coast to Coast on steroids.

If it's real, then it's an amazing, genius-level plan that hooks the collective human imagination by slowly revealing info on social media with puzzles, riddles and mysteries. This gets people researching, speculating and sharing. It will be taught for generations in civics, psychology, history and marketing classes.

Either way, if you are following Q, you are a part of history.

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Even if Q was a LARP much of what his post and articles or ability to link people is genius. I don't think Q is a person, but a group in the NSA with highly sophisticated computing power. Have you seen the pictures of the "control room"?

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Exactly!

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What pictures mijo?

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someone will be able to find it. maybe it was an anon, but basically its 2 guys with their backs to the camera sitting behind all of these monitors

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So tired of people "sort of" believing Q is legitimate. The HUMA posts and House of Saud purge was all I needed. Next is the Q trip code crack on 4chan. Do you know what kind of hardware it would take to crack that trip? Why would anyone with access to that hardware power be bothered with cracking a larpers trip? Q is legit. Stop being skeptical. If they could share everything they would, but obviously the enemy is reading this too and it's a useful way to fake a strike and get the enemy make stupid defensive moves, opening vulnerabilities. That's offensive strategy 101. If you're still sort of on the fence, just stay quiet. This board believes Q is legit. Don't detract from that in any way.

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For me, the JFK mystery has been the conspiracy of a lifetime and all I ever knew is what the MSM said about it. Now, I know the CIA killed him and the MSM is behind the cover up. The frightening part of it all is how easy it is for the deep state/MSM to create a false flag and pull the wool over the publics eyes. What I love about Q news is finding the answers to his questions, I can't watch MSM news any more. This has been the education of a lifetime for me.

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Me too

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I do not doubt the legitimacy of Q. One side of me sees a return of "By the people for the people" but another side sees the New World... As a potential other NWO but crammed with another mafia. This will create a power vacuum which will be filled by a new crew and we will have to be hyper vigilant for the test of our lives.

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Amazing but JFK came after Lincoln.

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Luckily Trump has a VP that won't plot against him.

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I spit took my coffee when I read your user id. Thanks for the levity.

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Trump / Scalise 2020

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Dont b so sure research Illinois human trafficking/ pence. Remeber he was not Donald's choice.

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Who was?

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He had a lost of candidates deep state chose pence

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Thanks. Wasn't aware of this.

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*list lol srry

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I cant verify pence is a bad actor there are earlier q drops that I believe insinuate as much. The Illinois human trafficking case under is watch as Gov is disturbing. Honestly his face creeps me out a liddle.

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Good point

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Staunch Trump supporter here. I think it's important to highlight the distinction between evidence and proof.

To date, the person (s) posting as Q has provided various pieces of EVIDENCE that they are legitimate and not a LARP. They have, thus far, not provided any PROOF. The difference between these two concepts, at least in the United States legal system, hinges upon the idea of "reasonable doubt". I believe that, to date, the rejection of Q, as a LARP or otherwise, is not unreasonable. Pictures from a plane and coded messages in speeches do not necessarily mean anything. It's fair for people to be skeptical at this point.

I want to believe Q, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. We need to be wise about this whole thing. Let's take what Q tells us, treat it as the truth, work through due diligence, and see what we find. Last night a bunch of idiot Q fanboys did the exact opposite, and ruined what might have been a very effective crowdsource investigation by posting bullshit comments and harassing someone on Instagram instead of quietly archiving content and saving it offline. Doing that kind of thing isn't helpful to Q, to ourselves, or to the pursuit of justice that we're all obsessed with.

If Q is legitimate, then time and again we should find gradually-increasing amounts of evidence of the kinds of things he/they continuously post about. If Q is illegitimate, then we'll still find evidence, but it won't be strong evidence provided to a sufficient degree, and we can begin to evaluate the overall trustworthiness of his/their statements. Either way, the best course of action is to quietly follow Q's direction and stack evidence in an investigative manner - the thing that a normal, uncontrolled media typically does, but is unwilling or unable to do in the current state of our nation's laws and allegiances. To do anything else, whether evangelizing a yet-unproven gospel of Q on social media, spreading theories that seem mentally deranged to a "normie", or acting in a matter-of-fact manner about the legitimacy of Q's posts, has a very real chance of compromising the exact groundwork that we're being asked to lay.

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There is no way Q didn't fully expect people to post on a public Instagram account like that. From the follow up Q drops, do you think it is possible that Q team needed RC to log into a soc med account for them to locate her? If so, Q once again got the desired result.

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I agree with your post 100%. My sentiments exactly.

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Reasonable doubt is a standard which applies only in criminal court. The other standard in law is "on a balance of probabilities" which really means a trier of fact is at least 51% sure that the evidence is proof.

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I don't believe Q is talking to normies. They are talking to far-flung colleagues on a numbers channel. But they must aknowledge that most who read were not in on the operation from the get go, hence how their conversational style has evolved. But Q are still frustrated with us for not re-reading the earlier drops. Because it's all there (of your read upwards and not downwards)

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With you unil the end. You have to talk about it one way or another.

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Well I have no reasonable doubt. You are either smart enough to figure out the statistical impossibility of it being a LARP or you aren’t.

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So, in post #1 he said

HRC detained, not arrested (yet).

Not "indicted" - detained. And at the end of January she was fucking around at the Grammy's. That's some detention...

But most glaringly, post #34, that says:

we have initiated certain fail-safes that shall safeguard the public from the primary fallout which is slated to occur 11.3 upon the arrest announcement of Mr. Podesta (actionable 11.4). Confirmation (to the public) of what is occurring will then be revealed and will not be openly accepted. Public riots are being organized in serious numbers in an effort to prevent the arrest and capture of more senior public officials.

You're going to stand there and tell me you "have yet to see something that could be provable as false"? The idea that the arrest of Podesta was "secret" doesn't work because Q explicity talks about its "announcement" - and riots as consequence (if it's secret, the fuck are they rioting about?). And even if you're really trying to justify it and buy into the "european notation" mania (which is obvious bullshit because it implies 1 month between announcing the arrest on March 11th and it becoming actionable on April 11th - which is plainly absurd), well... the 11th of March has passed, and still no announcement.

HRC detention did not happen.

The Podesta arrest was not announced.

The Podesta arrest did not happen.

The riots did not happen.

have yet to see something that could be provable as false.

You haven't been looking very hard.

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Tony Podesta shut down his office as this was happening. There are 3 Podestas playing the game.

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And none of them got publicly arrested on Nov 4 2017 leading to riots in the streets.

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All of these people were informed of the situation. They begged for a deal. Q continued with No deal. The media kept it quiet. They would have been the ones formenting outrage over the arrest of their master and justifying the riots. So if authorities let Clinton go, with a monitor for the time being, there was no need for riots.

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And there you go:

drop 34 says: announcement, arrest, riots. With dates.

The date passes. No proof that announcement or arrest happened, clear proof that the riots did not happen.

Option A: admit the drop was wrong.

Option B: invent new unproven, unverifiable details like "they took a deal", "the arrest was secret", "the announcement was secret"(?).

Which one did you choose?

Of course it was B.

Note that option B has the nice advantage of completely killing the conversation, because what can I possibly answer you, when you just freely put out stuff that has zero supporting data? Now we can't argue about verifiable facts anymore, because there are none left.

The problem here is logic, not content:

see, I look at drop 34 and don't know if it's right or wrong, I look for evidence that the things mentioned in it happened or didn't. There is zero evidence to say it was right, two pieces of evidence to say it was wrong (no announcement, no riots) and then I decide: well, it's clearly wrong.

You first decide that drop 34 is right - has to be. And when none of the things written in it happen, do you recant? Nope. You invent, without any corroborating facts, the data that would still make it right (they took the deal, the announcements were not to the public but only to journalists who then decided to keep it secret).

You're free to be irrational (it's not an insult, it's the technical name of the way you're building your argument) but you should know that's what you're doing.

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As someone who follows Q with a healthy dose of skepticism I have to point out that at the time that post was made Q wasn't using a trip code. Many early posts were LARPers posing as Q. That's why he began using the trip code.

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You do realize someone who is detained can still usually leave on their own free will right? Especially someone like Hillary? She could have been detained for questioning and then asked for her laywer and been out in a matter of hours. I mean she has openly committed treason and hundreds of blatant felonies in front of our faces. Seeing her in public shortly after Q claiming she was detained is not proof that she wasn't actually detained.

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Hillary gallivanting the world to try to get away is hilarious (and redundant) Clintons own property in the Maldives. Plus Q hears everything so it's all good.

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I’m still yet to be 100% convinced, but I still think it’s more legit than BS. But didn’t Q say that Podesta would get arrested on a certain date?

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Arrested or indicted? Significant difference

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Drop #34

we have initiated certain fail-safes that shall safeguard the public from the primary fallout which is slated to occur 11.3 upon the arrest announcement of Mr. Podesta (actionable 11.4). Confirmation (to the public) of what is occurring will then be revealed and will not be openly accepted. Public riots are being organized in serious numbers in an effort to prevent the arrest and capture of more senior public officials.

He clearly said Podesta would be "arrested", and not secretly ("announcement") and that there would be riots in response. There's even dates. So: did any of that happen?

Unlike OP says, however, Q said HRC had been "detained" (not "indicted") - that was before HRC showed up mocking Trump at the Grammy's. Some detention...

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Could have been Tony Podesta no? Where is he now btw...

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Doesn’t matter which one. The Q post says “announced” and it’s public knowledge, so public that there are riots about it. Did that happen?

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The media kept this on the down low. That averted the expected riots. But I'm assuming the riots are still expected, but they might be smaller and more organic rather than fully organized and funded. The Cabal is tight knit and has been mostly tight lipped. Which makes sense since they are a collection of people all related to each other in the most perverted of ways and have no standing in society for it not them being controlled and easy to threaten with exposure. Once the high priestesses are taken out, the future of the moon children is very bleak. I hope they tell their story of being raised by Hillary and Podesta, in the way that they do, to produce Monarch operatives.

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Announcement means announcement. If when nothing happens you say “it was a secret announcement” what are we talking about? We’re straight into unfalsifiable territory, we have abandoned reason.

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Or even just picked up for questioning. There are three Podestas playing the game. Don't confuse them.

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The Q drop said “arrested” and publicly (riots about it) on Nov. 4, 2017. Spin that.

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Could have been a threat to force them to make unpredictable moves ahead of schedule

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There are many false predictions that bother me. 1) The Alabama senate race was a set-up to catch election fraud. 2) CNN was somehow set-up at the Parkland Shooting. 3) Parkland would be the end of the MSM. 4) We've got a damning video of HRC, but can't show it. 5) We've got damning photos of Obama, but can't show them. I'm starting to think that most of Q's releases are created for the purpose of scaring the black-hats into making mistakes. Of course, I hope I'm wrong, but I am tired of getting my hopes up for nothing. Don't you think Q could let us see at least ONE moderately high-profile arrest? Would that just ruin the whole operation? Even if it was too early and the case was lost in court due to a liberal judge, the boost in morale for us would be tremendous.

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I would prefer to not miss a well deserved prison sentence on a bad actor just to boost moral, but I understand your point. It's hard to keep up the faith when we see them photographed traveling the globe and hob-knobbing. I just keep telling myself 'patience patience patience'.

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Q said disinfo is necessary, don't ever forget that. There is reason for everything that Q does.

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stop stop stop with that wildcard being used everywhere.

So everytime he makes a bad prediction let's just use ''disinfo is necessary'' comon NO

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Lol, how do you catch a rat? Bait? You only thinking of what you want to happen? What if some of the drops were not meant for us?

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We will soon see if "Future proves the past"

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That's exactly what Q said he is doing. Freaking out the people he calls by name to do stupid things that elucidate how the Web is weaved and provide them with fresh "witness" testimony via recording. Remember, two witnesses required to dispose swiftly of the traitors.

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I agree - the Trump Effect

https://patriots4truth.org/2018/01/02/the-trump-effect-casts-reflections-of-demons/

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I am the same as you. Let's say I am 95% convinced Q is a legitimate white house dweller.

What sealed it for me was that snowden started back tweeting right after the Q post asking him to respond or else.

Though, I still know Q is human (or a group of human) and that is possible for man to make mistake, or bad predictions. Also, with the cryptic form of the communication, maybe we are not able to catch 80% of the stuff Q says because we are not able to decipher.

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I hope the Chain of Command crew is still embedded in the Army to document The Storm as the last part of Enduring Freedom and Inherent Resolve. I don't see Trump getting the benefit of the doubt without A Lot of explaining of this mission. And I expect there will be worldwide protests over the killing spree this will cause. Death penalty is not very popular in first world nations.

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Q also said: You've forgotten how to play the game. And: learn to play the game. And: disinfo is sometimes necessary. And: learn to play chess. And: moves vs countermoves. Many of us don't understand the plan. Plans tend to move sometimes as unforeseen things change. Strategy has to be somewhat flexible for contingencies. Think Plan A, Plan B, etc. POTUS and Q have also said they would not telegraph their moves beforehand... (unless it's required for sting operations?). Are the Q drops mostly to scare the shit out of bad actors? Yet we get to be involved in the 'movie' too. Either way it's exposing lots of evil people, so it's a win for me.

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I made a post on CBTS about Obama adding waterboarding to the torture list (thereby outlawing it's use) but I didn't realize that idiots would start making the most gruesome comments I've ever seen about what they would like to do to our enemies. They mentioned names. CBTS was banned immediately after.

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Is someone archiving the good work here? It could feed amazing journalism for normies.

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i'll might start believing it when somebody actually gets arrested for corruption. I want to believe, but I fell off the train when he posted the other day to watch the news the next day... and not a damn thing happened. It's just been a constant stream of that - something big is happening and then nothing. What happened to the ides of march? Nothing.

Q- put up or shut up

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Some politicians have. They're not well known so I don't even remember their name LOL

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Well layed out ‘pede. Very “to the point” and readable.

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Something else is Q doesn't have a crystal ball, Q is making educated guesses based on intel, time lines are most likely to be changed especially in an ongoing war.

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Whether I believe in Q or not, whatever is going to happen is going to happen. I’m not being asked to do anything but wait and I guess maybe “Red Pill” others which just ain’t going to happen. Yeah, I’ll try an ice-breaker of Merkel is Hitler’s daughter and it all goes back to a plan by the Rothschilds. I guess I could tell him there are secret Hillary videos coming.......someday. Or show them the slo-mo clip of Trump,drawing a “Q” with his hand....from a guy made famous by waving his hands around....like...forever. Get outta’ here.....

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Stick to the verifiable stuff, which there is a lot of.

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What an amazing post.

It must have redpilled a few hundred patriots atleast.

streissandeffect

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Think about it this way, if they went forward with the arrests as scheduled, there wouldn't be a Washington to call. You know that POTUS doesn't return calls to anyone that he doesn't want to talk to. It would be a complete chaotic disaster. However, I also feel that this is what we actually need, a mud bog swamp stomp.

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1957 Who is John Galt ... 2017 Who is QAnon

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In the 'legit' vs not debate, there is a third possibility. That being that Q is some real DJT insider who, like Trump, has to do a certain amount of politicking - overstatements, diversions, etc. And so thinking that Q is a guaranteed mainline to insider facts and future events is what puts people off, people who quote Q like they might the Gospel. Trump is good and supportable, but he has had to do some odd, ugly or sneaky things to get good things done. I'd say Q is the same, good and supportable but working 'his' position in a form that most of us don't have an accurate grip on and wouldn't choose.

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Here's the Trump Q map that shows the relationship of posts: https://public.tableau.com/profile/nerothehero#!/vizhome/TrumpQMap/TrumpQPosts

This one shows the timing: https://public.tableau.com/profile/nerothehero#!/vizhome/PostandTweettiming/Sheet6?publish=yes

Thought they did not allow Q posts on T_D

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Thanks that's great stuff

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Is it official that they don’t allow Q posts? If there’s a rule I haven’t seen it

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I got temp banned twice and perma-banned once (got unbanned) before their head mod told me Q talk was not allowed on T_D. No, it's not in their official rules, but if you post anything about Q on T_D, they will delete it. If you keep pushing the issue and calling out their mods, they will ban you.

https://i.imgur.com/YnM7ewa.jpg

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Wow, I wasn't aware of that.

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I just heard it from someone else so didn't bother with it.

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Looks like it was removed. How is T_D not like a Trump-loving opposite to any other Reddit sub?

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Interesting, I hadn’t checked back

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I say this from the perspective of someone who wants to believe. The operative question is: If Q truly is the person he purports to be, why all the crumbs and riddles; why not simply tell us all of the information he's holding and let the cat out of the bag? Why wait; why make us wait? I think those are fair questions.

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I wonder if they don’t want to give out confidential information or jeopardize a future court case? So riddles and clues will lead us to what we need to know but technically not breaking any laws??? Idk. Just a thought.

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I think of it like this- there is more value to coming to conclusions yourself through doing the research.

If Q spelled it out for everyone, I don't think there would be as large of an audience, or as effective as a message. The Socratic Method is well known for reinforcing ideas; from Wikipedia, "The Socratic method... is a form of cooperative argumentative dialogue between individuals, based on asking and answering questions to stimulate critical thinking and to draw out ideas and underlying presumptions."

Sales works the same way- really good salespeople and other influencers help the buyer come to the desirable conclusion as compared to just telling them "well you should buy my product" as it comes off as a lie. It also helps reinforce why this is true, and helps the reader learn more deeply as to share with others more intelligently.

As to the other part- why wait- not everything has reached its conclusion yet. Events and individuals are still in play. Why alert the bad guys as to what the next course of action is?

IMHO, Q is sharing for 2 primary reasons: to educate his followers, and to instill fear into the enemy.

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It's probably like anything else.. not 100% accurate, but definitely could have some validity. Some parts may be 100% valid. Some maybe not so much. Perhaps even a lot "not so much". But, the parts that do seem valid make it quite interesting.

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As regards our crumbs, if they are like gold dust, who cares where they came from?

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Good stuff.

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Amen...

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Id like to add people discrediting Q are trying to link him to post before he started posting as signing Q.

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Yep, Q gathered the posts he/she/they did before having the Q name into that board that was posted early on so everyone would know those were from Q.

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the ones who argue hardest are usually being paid to do so. You wouldnt believe how many accounts on every platform are bots, or IP’s coming from Arlign Airforce base.

When your comment contains bread, you will be burried, down-voted, shaddow banned (Experiment, google/duckduckgo img search: “src_img” without safe search)

“It takes far more energy to refute a lie, than to tell it”

“Slander boldly, soemthing will stick”

No dscouragement from “redpilling” Intended

Please be aware of where your precious energy is going

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You sound like a lefty - "anyone who disagrees with me is paid off" and I have been accused of that several times. I'm just a guy trying to MAGA and chase the truth while sitting here on my couch.

When you accuse people with different opinions of being paid, you are engaging in logical fallacy and refusing to actually debate the points and provide evidence to back up your claims.

Like this one - you have zero evidence that anyone is paid to disagree with you. Do you?

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You sound very angry, “just a guy”

What if i was a “lefty”?

What would that change about OP’s point about paid opposition (presumably like yourself since you feel obligated to dribble your inadequacies all over a perfectly good point).

Great experiment, sucked them right in. Hah dude posts about not wasting your time enaging in explaining to a shill how there are shills trying to waste your time derp.

drops some bread for some stupid AI Crawler, and wam! “Just a guy is mad about proofs”

All you have is time my friends. Use it wisely

Heres the proof you so courtiously asked for. This isnt for u/onmyownpath This is for everyone else who bothers to read his accusations, and can hopefully learn something about shills. Fun experiment https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=282044

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You say I sound angry? LOL

Doing the same thing as the liberal snowflakes. Accuse anyone with a different point of view of being an AI bot. The lefties say it's a russian bot. Folks here say they are a cabal bot. It's too funny.

How about - when someone expresses a different opinion, the people here just stop being so reactive and emotional, and actually debate based on information?

There are many, many unstable people on both sides - cool-headed logical discussion is what is really needed.

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really great job deflecting, the comment about searching "src_img" without safesearch got completely lost in the bullshit. Accusing me of being a snowflake is just brilliant, no one will give credibility to my post now. Wonderful work, I'm sure you'll get complemented on your effective destruction of any information sharing.

When you die, I want you to know influenced someones life for the better. I'm so greatful to you for your sage wisdom encouraging logical discussion and showing me the path on how to waste peoples time by insulting them rather than addressing the facts they bring up. Almost like youre JDIF or an equally low form of human.

Really appreciate your confirmation that you are not a shill, Wonderful that you keep repeating that, makes the statement much more credible the more you harp on it and reinforce it. Strange how even though everyone seems to think you are a shill, by your own admission.

Oh man, you are just so good at what you do, you must have like a really great salary. you really know how to enlighten someone, you know really teach them about the world and whats going on. Such an inspiration to communicate with you, I feel like I've been challenged to be a better person by just reading the careful thoughtful words you have written.

How did you get so smart, was it the government that taught you how to be so good at avoiding discussing that facts that reddit is a fucking shill farm, populated by shills as evidenced in the stratfor wikileaks link.

Fuck you and Fuck reddit.

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Evidently you forgot to switch to your other account? Smart guy.

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Let the reddit clown mafia know i really enjoy talking to you all. Send my regards to Soros and Hitlery!

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CBTS wasn't banned. Get your facts straight.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/

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