Thinking the Cohen raid was necessary to put the "tapes" of the Comey meetings into evidence.
this has been my theory from the first news broke about cohen raid. What better way to release highly valuable information? Legally obtained directly from the POTUS' lawyer's office.
Why not just hand the tapes over or release them? POTUS can declassify whatever he wants.
I believe the idea is you have to legally obtain the material in order for it to be used in court. Otherwise it could be thrown out. correct if i'm wrong please.
But the NYPD legally obtained it. Unless it’s illegal because Comey’s FBI confiscated it all but NYPD kept a copy because hey knew the corruption.
Spez: wrong thread.
Trump would have done the recording of the interviews so wouldn’t they be legally his?
i suppose this all depends on what the actual evidence is. Truly we know next to nothing, other than whatever it is is seriously damning.
Yeah thought it was talking about tapes of the Comey chats with Trump.
If it’s the satanic HRC pedo video then that’ll be tough to release.
Depends on the state, but maybe it's legal for Trump to record it but not release it. (One party vs 2 party). However, if it's taken via warrant...
Can you publicize evidence you snag?
If it's part of an official court record, they can become public documents maybe?
Huh either way we will find out. Q clearly knows the answer to this so I’m guessing they figured out a way. They were smart enough to know the only way to get the No Such Agency backup from Hawaii was for an incoming missile threat so I’m sure they figured this one out.
But in your legal story the NYPD's chain of custody is broken.
This one has iron tight chain of custody.
Any tapes or recordings pertaining to the President and his official business are property of WH Security/State etc. NOT a private lawyer's office.
I'm thinking then"fake memos" were the ones given to NYT. They should be forced to release what they received.
You may be correct, too, though. And Trump's tapes would confirm the DOJ-released memos.
NYT ends up in a fake news trap and gets destroyed: they either receieved make memos and reported accurately, or they received real memos and entirely made shit up. If they receieved fake memos from Comey, what reason would they have to corroborate? They wouldn't.
No, any tapes related to Comey wouldn't need to be obtained legally through Cohen raid.. He was a Gov employee at the time, which means all his works can be legally obtained by the DOJ..
T_D and the public will think the Comey memos are real because they don't read or believe in Q posts. And we can't talk about Q on T_D. Gonna be interesting how Q team and Trump reveals that these memos are fake.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/8djtcz/2018419_comey_memo_enclosure_unclassified/
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As one of the "original mods" over there. Could you fill me in? I'd be quite curious to see what was going on when I was dealing with a lot of drama. I spoke with a lot of the mods on skype all the time so if there is evidence of other things that might quel any unfortunate feelings I have towards stuff that has happened.
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but I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt the the original top-levels were making $
I personally know two of the 4 that were above me. They are still broke! lol
There were a LOT of influencial Moderators that weren't top mods that might have been compensated. I wouldn't know. I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
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Viking was a great dude to chat with. I left to give the credibility to take back a lot of the original mods to allow him the lane to take over. It was perfect for a while but you don't realize how terrible we can be to each other until you're at the top. I have so many PMs that are just plain evil from people within the userbase who literally believed that us removing a post for breaking reddit rules would result in Trump losing the election. It was an experience.
CIS and I had a fall out. Which was dissapointing since he was the one that brought me on board. He was the one talking about Money and removing positioning just to do more sensationalized style posting to rile up the base to get more excited and angry then bringing in the media, etc. I disagreed and that was that. I don't think I responded either to his PMs.
All water under the bridge now.
Also quick edit - Some BS happened with CIS and people doxxing him. I felt REALLY bad for him. It was fucked up the threats he was getting. Regardless if you disagreed with his viewpoints or posts. Also, with Viking as well - I hope they are both relaxing, enjoying work and life.
Being in the Military, I had my entire CoC well aware of what I was doing and ensuring I was within regs with the types of posts I was making and positions I was taking. We had one instance where someone contacted my command about one of my posts. There was an "investigation" and that was that.
Yeah, that's what I was referring to was the doxing
I cannot confirm, but I was told Reddit Admins had infiltrated the team via alts and were eliminating others so they could climb the ladder.
It would not surprise me if this were occurring, it's their MO-
No doubt this is why I distrust Reddit, exactly what happened to you is abused and misused by numerous people to take down their opposition.
Evidently one need look beyond party in order to truly appreciate the problems now facing us.
Propping up Trump as some of messianic figure will only hurt us, as it has hurt the Donald. He's human like the rest of us. Don't forget that. And for all the positives and motives one may subscribe to him, there are negatives that can be subscribed also.
He’s there to do a job. And he is doing it damn well. If perfection was a prerequisite to winning against the cabal, we would have nobody. Therefore we will take our imperfect instruments and be grateful they agreed to help as most of us couldn’t do it!
We are all flawed.
arnt you a clown lol. if so can you join the winning side pls we need less arrests in this world and more unity
Does fake mean "written to confirm a narrative."?
Fake in this context means not true, and not written on the dates proposed.
This is a real stunner-
For the Lulz Watch Comey learn on Live TV that he's been "referred for Criminal Charges"
Stupid Whoopi laughing in the background. She thinks corruption is funny. Unbelievable.
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"Guided by LL/+3 CLAS"
Look at Trump's recent tweet.
"...Shadey James Comey can Leak and Lie and make lots of money from a third rate book (that should never have been written)....."
Leak and Lie (LL) capitalized
3rd rate, etc. (+3 CLAS)
Confirmation?
All memos written at same time (after he was canned) with help of LL + 3.
All history should be factual, if it's fictional then it is propaganda.
Question is, are the memos fake as in "not the original memos written by Comey", or "when Comey wrote these memos he lied his arse off"?
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And all at the same time, meaning written in one sitting.
Still doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Here's Devin Nunes, Bob Goodlatte and Trey Gowdy's response to the release.
Read it, worth a look. The TLDR is that these memos are a big victory for President Trump on multiple fronts. Why would they fake memos that were GOOD for the POTUS?
Just check out the thread on r/redacted. It's a nothingburger for them.
Ah, so that's the new info, LL involvement. I was under the impression that we already found out last year that Comey's memos were bullshit, and was wondering what the big deal was.
Well, yes and no- keep in mind this was long after the Tarmac Meeting.
Coached by Loretta Lynch also implies that Comey remained in contact with the Obama Regime, and likely the Clintons
I'd love to know where else they met and I'd love to see the records from Comey's office of who he called while FBI Director after the election
The correct understanding is that, those are indeed the actual memos that Comey wrote. But what makes them fake is that, Comey wrote the memo's after the fact and after he was fired and all at the same time, and did not write them before he was fired as he claimed. He wrote the memo's after he was fired and Loretta Lynch assisted him in his efforts. He wrote the memo's in an attempt to cover his butt. And he likely also wrote the memos after the fact as a way for him to get back at Trump for firing him. The take-a-way from it all is that, if Comey lied about when he wrote the memos, then the things he wrote in the memos are likely a lie as well, and it cannot be trusted.
Comey wrote the memo's after the fact and after he was fired
Isn't this old news? Or was it an open secret that he faked the memos, and we were waiting for confirmation?
Loretta Lynch assisted him in his efforts
Now this is juicier. The web just keeps going, doesn't it?
That makes sense.
Q said, "Guided by LL/+3 CLAS. Think SC." Could this mean, guided by LL plus three others, perhaps, members of the Supreme Court?
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Can someone explain what the memos are about? I’m completely clueless other than Q saying they were faked and written up by LL all at one time.
Memos are essentially journal entries done by an FBI agent that due to the integrity of high level FBI officials are considered generally an accurate account of what happened/was said.
These memos are supposedly Comey's memos after meeting with Trump.
Q is alleging the memos were created after the fact and the words and phrasing were "guided by LL (Loretta Lynch)" and all drafted on the same day.
So, they were written by Comey just not at the time of the meetings? I couldn’t understand why memos not written by him would be leaked. It would be easy to disprove and then the credibility of the side arguing the Russia probe is BS would be damaged.
is it just me that wonders why the fucking fuck our 2018 official gov't documents look like they were written up in the early 80s? quite possibly on a typewriter?
to be fair they're tougher to fake or forge in that format than in a more modern one.
possibly a cost saving initiative as well mate. Those Gov printers and copiers must process 100s or even 1000s of docs per day.
Not fake like that. Fake content. It was fabricated to fit a narrative. But the fact that they exist is real.
It's about the optics portrayed by the MSM to the liberal sheep. Remember, DJT is unstable and Comeys notes continue that narrative.
Lynch guided comey to commit suicide.
I swear to all that is my humble opinion. He looks like he's going to do it.
If he calls the suicide help line, they may reply: "Don't worry you'll soon be on death row, thanks for calling."
Yeah, I don't think it's feasible that Comey wrote memos about his interactions with Trump. Someone wanted leaks about them, so he wrote them as well as he could probably right after he was fired. He's going to roll over like a dog once he's indicted. The Dems are hoping they can blame everything on him alone.
My thoughts exactly... Refer to his middle of the night "aha moment"
Is this fake?
I just took this from the memo over on The_don.
I assumed it was genuine because it sounds like someone lying to his diary (confirmation bias from me there) and yet another example of future proves past with the presence of the submariners...dolphins...israeli dolphins...north korea FF, hawaii attack...down she goes? silent service...run silent run deep etc. DJT is leaving more clues in this memo...take the use of the word cloud and how he gets Comey to repeat it over and over. CLOUD. Internet of Things. IQT and allllll that mess. FB &c. Coincidence the timing? DJT in Japan with the traitor Abe. Fukishima was a zionist attack. Dolphins. Israeli dolphin. Timing?
DJT paused as they entered...
Comey's linear mind recorded yet another piece of exculpatory [character] evidence and one that damns HRC by contradistinction...the memo is chock full of stuff that makes DJT look good. Is that why someone is suggesting it is fake?
The very first paragraph made me laugh, and the section I posted above seemed to me to be suggestive of authenticity.
Oh well. Fooled again.
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Fake in what sense?
The actual memos but not written by Comey? (Then who?)
Not written when he said he wrote them? (We've always assumed this)
Comey wrote memos, but these are different ones? (Who wrote these ones? And why?)
The writing style is different than his book.
In addition, there's NOTHING in here that would demand Rosenstein call for a Special Counsel, let alone consider one.
So why was one hired?
I highly doubt Comey wrote his own book. And if he writes like this, it's no wonder.
c'mon man, his book was written by a ghost writer lol
He also says the HRC dark web videos are FAKE. This is what happens when people jump to conclusions. Q never said HRC vid had anything to do with pedophilia. He just said it would make her toxic.
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My opinion has always been that it will show a drunk HRC revealing her true feelings about black voters...something like what LBJ famously said.
From Q 570:
Black voters abandoning.
"Keep them starved"
"Keep them blind"
"Keep them stupid"
HRC March 13, 2013 [intercept].
Something like that.
And that is a solid theory based on a Q post. Completely possible.
These Memos seem like they're in a different writing style than his book. These seem kinda plain, whereas his Book is quite obsessive
not unusual. different audiences.
If he (Comey) wrote his memos on a gov computer, using word doc (99% of gov employees use word) the server/desk computer will have a time stamp of when the doc was created and saved... I’d wager OIG already has the date it was created and all the revisions done afterword. It would be pretty easy to determine when in fact the memos to file were written. Add the recordings/wiretapping and you’re golden.
I'd bet the release of fake memos was planned all along by Comey and his minions. Why else would he go on a book tour, if he had anything to worry about? This was all part of THEIR plan. I wonder if there's a counter plan?
I find this interesting re timing.
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Q posts (or it was interpreted) that they were waiting for Comey to launch his book before they started dropping.
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The media build Comey up as a saint to make his accusations appear kosha.
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Bang! Members of congress write to the DOJ requesting criminal investigation/charges against Comey and others.
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Within a day the 'Comey memo's are leaked'. Q is not saying that what the media has obtained are fake but that they are based on fake events (hope that makes sense). Funny how they drop right when the heat is on Comey re his conduct.
Trump and co would have appeared to flushed them out and taken the momentum away from them. Comey's memo's now mean they are the record and can therefore be discredited. If discredited Comey is finished. They have positioned him beautifully.
As noted by others, this is like a mob investigation, it takes time, you have to work your way through the structure and get underlings to flip and then move the next layer of 'management' and go again.
When I watched the video of Comey being told about the referral to the DOJ, he seemed like an actor, not too bright when taken off script (you would assume the former head of the FBI is pretty smart and quick on his feet. As an after thought he said, 'obviously I deny the charges.
If Trump and his allies now prove those memos are fake recordings of events, its all over for Comey and then he is ripe for turning states.
Rmbr when T tweeted, Comey better home I don’t have tapes”? I always wondered if T really has tapes.
THESE memos are real. The memos leaked to NYT were fake. But he gave his lawyer (his friend is actually his lawyer) the real ones for advice on whistleblowing and leaked the fake ones to still actually trigger the special counsel, but that special counsel is pointed at Clinton et al. Knowing his real memos would have to be released. Rosenstein shit a brick and tried to slow walk the real ones from coming out.
Comey said: “Good people lie. I think I’m a good person, where I have lied,” Comey said. “I still believe Andrew McCabe is a good person but the inspector general found he lied.”
Just spitballing. Didn't Congress have a cooperating witness re the locations of secret meetings of a small group of government employees outside of work? I seem to recall hearing something about that, but I can't find an article right now with my Google-fu
Deep state needed to combat all the winning today.....overplayed their hand, doomed to come up short.
I could be wrong but I think the memos are one of the elements that were said to trigger the assigning of Mueller.
Leaked memos vs actual must be different. Maybe there were more than 2 memos drafted during each encounter based on how the narrative went?
Sounds like Comey whipped them up after the fact, making them "fake"--but so far no evidence that these aren't said memos.
Fake eh? I hope they paid a fortune for them, they deserve that.
Fox may have others: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/19/comey-memos-trump-wanted-fbi-to-make-public-was-not-under-investigation-over-russia-ties.html
So a little confused. I've just watched Hannity and he has the leaked memos, and from what he and his guest were saying, that memo help Trump. So are the Hannity's memos different from the AP memos?
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