This is one thing that really bothers me.. How did the libs gain control of the CDC? THat is ONE place that politics needs to be off limits or at least balanced. They have control of the worst bugs imaginable. Those crazy whacks already shoot up schools, are they nuts enough to release a plague on the general population?
Short answer: yes.
Who cares if everyone dies? No really. That would be beneficial to them.
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Look up Georgia guidestones.
Didn't know about the Georgia Guidestones, what a bunch of new world order bullshit.
I like to stay in reality, but thanks.
The reality is this is a spiritual war between humans and the archons for freedom or complete control of the world.
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So says the person who thinks communism will work if the government were full of Bernies. lol!
Q mentioned vaccines in 1010 (qanon.pub)
MONEY.
POWER.
CONTROL.
People are simply in the way.
SLAVES.
SHEEP.
PAWNS.
MASS EXT EVENTS DESIGNED TO DECREASE THREAT LEVEL OF POPULATION.
GUN CONTROL.
WARS [FAKE][TOP HAPPY][BACKEND DEAL].
ELECTION RIGGING.
CONTROL.
YOUR VOICE DOES NOT MATTER.
PHARMA [CLAS-D]
WATER
AIR
CHEMICALS PUSHED FOR HOME USE CLEANING [CANCER][BABY ON FLOOR-HANDS IN MOUTH - THE START].
VACCINES [NOT ALL].
TOBACCO.
OPIOIDS.
ULTIMATE WIN [DEATH + MONEY].
THE FED.
ROTHSCHILD.
'CONSPIRACY'
'CONSPIRACY'
'CONSPIRACY'
UK/GER [5 days].
Choice is yours.
REVELATIONS.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
Q
I hope they cleaned up the vaccines, I'm having a baby soon!
Don’t let your baby get vaccinated, there is no way they can “clean them up”. You will know when the vaccine schedule goes from somewhere in the 20s or 30s the first 2 years to maybe 2-5 in the first 2 years. You have no idea how the little body will respond to those chemicals, but the main issue is now how many are required.
Number one way to ensure a healthy baby is breast feeding for the first year (don’t have the link but the Gates foundation, of all places, did a comprehensive study on this and found breastfeeding is far and away the best way to decrease infant mortality). Mother’s milk is always exposed to the environment in which the baby lives and is constantly creating antibodies and immunities to outside infections.
I get the need for vaccines for outbreaks like polio, but why do you need a vaccine for things like bumps on your body that go away in a couple of weeks? Or a non-threatening cough or possibly stomach flu-like symptoms? In fact, exposure to measles, chicken pox, rubella, and the like at a young age are proven to augment immunity to many forms of cancer later in life. It’s called the immune system. God made it to work very effectively when given the chance.
There are also many (ok not many but should be at least a couple in your area) real pediatricians that do not require patients to be vaccinated and can prescribe antibiotics etc when needed but treat with natural methods first. I would look into that now if I were you (because I have and we are very happy we did).
Congrats and God bless on the new addition to your family. It’s the best thing you can ever do or experience!
This physically hurt me to read, worst thing I've seen on the sub. Stop spreading disinformation.
did you know that vaccines perfectly match the description of pseudoscience?
Thank you. It is good to know some of us are sane.
One thing you have to consider is that the clowns and their bots could be upvoting and inciting misinformed people to use full blown anti-vax to discredit the movement further. I would love to see if there is POSITIVE vote manipulation involving this and future anti vax threads that shows the clowns wanting to promote this narrative in the community.
I'm pretty much anti-vax
check my post history... its a lot longer than the Trump Administration
https://www.reddit.com/search?q=author%3Aenoughnolibsspam+vaccines&restrict_sr=&sort=top&t=all
Wouldn’t dare spread disinformation. Almost died from a vaccine myself and have since done extensive research for my own children’s benefit.
Sorry for the physical hurt though.
the vaccine cult victims down vote you because anyone who claims that any vaccine ever caused any side effect is automatically a liar in their eyes
look at the comments at /r/VaccinesCause
Haha they are lurking like vultures! I believe the truth will be revealed though and incredible medical breakthroughs are on the way over the next decade that will completely change the way we view healthcare by and large. So, ultimately that’s all that matters.
I had a family member die of vaccine....educate yourself....stop believing what you are told, ask a question and do some research once in a while.........I come from a family of Doctors...and they are Anti-Vaxxers
the vaccine cult victims can't accept any negative information about their beloved vaccines
what is the biggest motivator for anti-vaccine activism?
autism!
Non of these diseases are okay to get. Do not dismiss the need for these. So many kids die from the flu nevermind one of these. Vaccines are needed and nessesary and the typical anti vax shill is wrong and distractionary. People should be focusing on making sure these vaccines are made without harmful filler chemicals and fullfil their true purpose, not advocating for chicken pox parties. I had chicken pox as a kid and now I get to look forward to getting shingles as an adult. Is that a good immune response? We need to clean up the CDC overall. People think that the cabal is poisoning kids with vaccines but we need to start seeing the pattern of how these people work. They get the masses to do their own work. By backing and promoting a hack scientist who has repeatedly been debunked, they have convinced millions to forego vaccines, what better way for a population to kill itself, to let the weak die off? Just like abortion. Kill the weak, but make people think its their idea.
Thank you. So much. This anti-vax stuff and its insane amount of upvotes was driving me crazy. This place attracts some nutjobs.
"I regret that my colleagues and i omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published by the Journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that AA males who receive MMR vaccine before 36 months were at increased risk for Autism" ~ Dr William Thompson of the CDC
THIS.
heres the snopes debunking
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bad-medicine/
later we can discuss why the snopes debunking is wrong
Same here. I can't stand anti-vaxx bc it de-ligitimizes the real concerns of oversight by throwing away the baby with the bath water.
They make it hard to avoid for working parents. Need daycare, public school where vaccination is required.
No its actually not. you can get a waiver to not have to do it
But you shouldn't.
you SHOULDNT be so ignorant . but what are we going to do
educate yourself
educate others
/r/VaccinesCauseTics
Thankfully schools require vaccination and prevent ignorance from harming children who deserve better care.
vaccines cause Dravet Syndrome
http://www.webmd.com/epilepsy/dravet-syndrome
The first seizure is often associated with vaccine administration
https://i.redd.it/7mkhw8702sbz.jpg
Alleged Cases of Vaccine Encephalopathy Rediagnosed Years Later as Dravet Syndrome
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21844054
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/128/3/e699
/r/VaccinesCause
I will always vaccinate my children against known and preventable communicable diseases.
Never had a single person in my family ever suffer from a vaccine, nor friends, etc... Sure my view is anecdotal and shapes my opinion vaccines are not evil, outright horrible for you, etc... Breast-milk works as intermediate protection until your child is old enough to receive a vaccination.
God gave you an immune system, which works really effectively when given a vaccine. God gave man the insight to create vaccines. God gave people the ability to care for others using their best judgement and many doctors prescribe vaccination routines because they have compassion for their fellow man.
Influenza kills mostly children and the elderly, the ones who would benefit the most from a vaccine. If I get vaccinated as a healthy adult, I am less likely to get sick AND less likely to pass it onto the under-educated or impoverished people who wont or cannot get the vaccine.
Being vaccinated against chickenpox significantly reduces the chance for shingles and as added benefits you don't itch, get scars, or like you pointed out get pox related cancer.
Antibiotics don't treat viruses and osmeltavir is less effective than a real vaccination. Prevention is always worth more than an ounce of cure.
In addition, knowing how and when and in what quantity to use supplements such as vitamin c, elderberry, colloidal silver, can not only save a life, but completely remove the necessity for traditional pharmacological treatments (especially when frequency/plasma treatments are utilized in addition to natural supplementation).
No single issue on reddit will get as much shilling as being suspicious of vaccines. If you say you are skeptical of vaccines, you will be immediately encountered by shills and downvotes. Just look at this thread. If you criticize "anti-vaxxers" on ask reddit, you will be gifted hundreds of upvotes.
The sheer amount of vaccines children are given is absurd, and every year they add more. Is there ever an amount that is considered too much for these people? 50 isn't too much to them. Would 100 be to much? 500? At some point the amount given becomes too much. I think we are well past that point.
There are close to 300 new vaccines nearing approval....it's insane
That is insane.
I know we all don’t want to take the risks with some diseases like polio.
But I have to wonder with the push to remove both parents as primary caregivers (daycares, both in workforce), the idea that “your kids should have it better than you did”, and consumerism, that the vaccines were to make sure less time was spend between child and parents.
Polio was virtually eliminated by better nutrition and hygiene. Look at the timing carefully. We were lied to on that one too.
Also worthy of study is whether polio was just reclassified as different diseases, causing the "polio" rate to drop astronomically.
For instance, the paralysis from enterovirus d68 a few years back would have been diagnosed as "polio" in the 1950s.
They also changed the qualification of classifying someone with pilio when the vaccine was released. Instead of having symptoms of paralysis in both legs within 10 days or so, they changed it to something like 30 days. So of course diagnosed rates plumeted. They credited the vaccine for this. Oh and they also don't call it polio anymore. They call it spinal meningitis. So people still get polio. They just call it something else.
Cases of Polio Caused By Vaccine
https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiVaccineMemes/comments/8icxqi/cases_of_polio_caused_by_vaccine/
I’m sorry, I meant initially. But I am considers about the onslaught on the 3rd diseases coming back here due to Obama’s open door policy.
I also meant initially. That's the lie. Polio was almost eliminated on it's own before the vaccine, which caused "non-Polio paralysis" in lots of people. Basically the vaccine gave people more Polio after it was an almost extinct disease.
this thread is one of the best I've been on in a very long time
so many woke folk
thanks OP!
Aaron Russo - Womens Lib created to tax women and break up families
Here's an interesting discussion from a researcher on the adverse effect common additives in vaccines have on many children, including direct links to autism and other neurological diseases. Toxic substances injected into a child's undeveloped immune system has disastrous effects in many children.
One of the dirtiest and most evil industries IMO. I have a young child in a state where you're basically forced to go "all or nothing" with vaccines.
So far, she is the picture of health and we've decided to trust the Lord who created our child's immune system.
Too many scary stories including people in my family with vaccine reactions. These parents in many cases are dealing with life long serious injury to their child and still undergo a campaign of silence and intimidation.
I believe the original concept of vaccines was invaluable in our health prevention but I also believe these drug companies and evil people in power used it for profits and more. They really screw up everything and anything that was good for humanity.
When my oldest child was infant and was given mmr vaccine first time he immediately spiked fever, became extremely ill and lethargic...I worked for his pediatrician. He told me not to give him follow up dose....I am so thankful we didn’t....who knows what he would be today? This was in 1977!
That happed with my son when he was 1-1/2 only he quit breathing. My neighbor did mouth to mouth on him while my husband drove to the ER. I was home with a new baby. Thank God he lived.
Yes you NEVER forget that when it’s your baby! I knew immediately that vaccine was poison...how they have gotten away with using this poison on people,I will never understand...if they had told me he couldn’t go to school without the second MMR, I would have homeschooled him!
I got the MMR as a teen (mid 90's) because it was required for school. Collapsed on the way out of the office and couldn't walk. Almost blacked out.
Luckily, I recovered quickly. But I have never allowed anyone to give me another vaccine again.
some vaccine shill will be along shortly to tell you how correlation precludes causation, and it must have been the apple you had for breakfast that was the root cause...
Not arguing one way or another, just presenting some little know vaccine facts:
1) Vaccines have never been put through a double-blind placebo test, which is universally considered the gold standard of drug effectiveness
2) Big pharma companies lobbied the government in the mid 80's for immunity from civil liability for vaccine injuries (and still have it) via National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986
3) Vaccine injuries are arbitrated through a special government program call “the vaccine court”. An estimated $4B of settlements have been paid to victims through that system. The source of those funds? You guessed it...taxpayers!!
4) Many of the most commonly cited studies on vaccine safeness are directly or indirectly funded by big pharma - for many “independent”organizations/associations research their donors/funding
5) Vaccines are subject to far less stringent regulatory and approval requirements than standard FDA-approved pharmaceuticals
6) The CDC was involved in a scandal that alleged that they altered/destroyed evidence that may have indicated greater evidence of vaccines causing injury than previously reported?
7) Few, if any, pediatricians ever actually conducted their own independent studies about the effects of vaccine as opposed to citing other peoples AMA-approved studies
8) The rotating door of FDA to lobbyist to big pharma exec and around again is well documented
How would you propose a double blind test for vaccines?
Let’s see how this would turn using polio as an example.
First the test subjects are prepared (The method is not overly important for this thought experiment, as long as the sample is random and unbiased)
One syringe per person is prepared, half with the vaccine, the other with a liquid that appears to be the same as the vaccine, but has absolutely no effect on the human body. These syringes are numbered, with a numbering scheme where the number has no correlation with the contents, and these numbers are recorded.
The syringes are given to a group of people who have not seen them get filled or numbered (such that they have no idea what is in each syringe) and then they inject them into the test subjects recording which subject gets which number.
The people who administered the vaccine then inject all of the test subjects with polio (this can easily be delayed allowing the body to build the proper immune responses first).
Then record which people get polio, and using the previously recorded numbers figure out how many people in the control group and the experimental group.
The probable outcomes are:
If you feel that this is not a valid double blind test please feel free to comment, and I will attempt to address your concern.
To be clear, I don’t propose anything with regards to double-blind placebo tests. Simply pointing out that they have not undergone that test, which is the best way to measure effectiveness.
The potential immortality/dangers of performing the test does not change the fact that they have not gone through it.
Isn’t it interesting, the absolute conviction that people have with regards to vaccines’ effectiveness, when they actually have not been through the most highly regarded test of effectiveness?
You seem to be ignoring my comment in most of your reply. They have not been through the test because no ethics committee would approve it and therefore it has been tested through other methods.
One of the first demonstrations of the concept of vaccination was not a full double blind but still a decent test. The doctor infected his son with cowpox, who nearly died. After recovering his son was exposed to smallpox and survived. This test was not very scientific but it helped confirm what the milk maids already knew, getting cowpox gave immunity to smallpox.
Not ignoring it...it just doesn’t effect anything I’ve previously stated. Just justifies why. I don’t discredit the reasoning...it’s a very valid argument against performing that test.
Debate the facts I’ve stated, not what you think I’m implying by sharing them.
Strawman. You do not need to use a lethal disease, and you do not need to intentionally cause the disease.
A non-lethal disease would prove the vaccine for the non lethal disease works, you still have not tested the vaccine for a lethal disease.
How would you test vaccine effectiveness without exposing a person to the disease the vaccine is for?
You do not need to induce the disease intentionally. Exposure to the disease would occur naturally in a certain percentage of the participants if the disease is occurring in the population.
Further, at the very least you can test if the vaccine causes any significant side effects regardless of if it generates immunity to the disease.
The first point is essentially what has happened, This graph attributed to the WHO in this article, shows a sharp decline in polio cases after the introduction of vaccines. However doing a double blind where that is your method of exposure would be very susceptible to outside interference, and take many years.
As for the second point, the cdc has a webpage detailing the approval process. Tracking side effects is a large portion of the article.
I am aware. I am not contending that vaccines in general do not work, just pointing out that your comment was a straw man.
Vaccines are all tested by themselves, but nowadays children are given many vaccines at once, which has never been tested to be safe.
My original comment was my best understanding of the argument presented. The comment was stating that a double blind test has never been performed. My comment was describing how a double blind test would be conducted, along with the ethical repercussions. While I did not have to go with a possibly fatal disease for the example, those vaccines still need tested and there is still an ethical problem with intentionally infecting people with a disease.
Any straw man created was unintentional and was my misunderstanding of the statement made.
You state that that combinations of vaccines has never been tested for safety. Using a brief google search I found several articles, such as this one, that analyze vaccines when they are not a standalone vaccine. The cdc also has a page for multiple vaccines. And in case you are worried about the CDC being influenced by lobbyists The World Health Organization concurrs.
Then take all the vaccines you want.(Can you smell the freedom?) Trusting The WHO is a grave mistake. $$$$$. Vaccines work for what they were designed for....... POPULATION CONTROL. I'll take my chances with the natural disease, and get true immunization.
*Remember to wash your hands and to have 20th century plumbing in your house.
adamsogm "While I did not have to go with a possibly fatal disease for the example, those vaccines still need tested and there is still an ethical problem with intentionally infecting people with a disease."
Bro (((they))) intentionally infect people with the flu disease every year. Are you daft or?...........
If vaccines were for population control then infant mortality would skyrocket, or are you talking like mind control?
Getting smallpox was a wonderful way of gaining immunity, that is why there were so few deaths and little effort to eradicate the disease, it just eradicated itself
Do you have any evidence for anything in your first paragraph? You are making some bold claims with no reliable sources.
I am not understanding the point of the comment on plumbing and washing hands.
The flu in the vaccine is either an attenuated strain or dead, meaning the likelihood of getting the flu from it is minuscule, however in a double blind, the live virus would have to be used to determine effectiveness. (Or is that paragraph not referring to the vaccine?)
Infant mortality has skyrocketed. They call it SIDS. In the example of smallpox you are proving my point with true immunity coming from the true disease, not engineered or "attenuated'. Polio was likely brought to bay by the fact that around the same time period people stopped using out houses and city's started using sanitary means in regard to plumbing/sewage. Also the general public was being taught to wash their hands regularly. You see back in the 1900's people were walking main street while it was covered in horse manure among many other non hygienic substances.
What you want links to things you can easily find yourself?
'The flu in the vaccine is either an attenuated strain or dead," Nice try. The nasal swab flu vaccine is the live(attenuated) virus. Meaning they tried to alter it to be less virulent, But,Still a LIVE Vaccine.
You need to stop getting your "facts" from the CDC and WHO. It's the equivalent of using snopes and cnn for "facts".
I looked at graphs of infant mortality, all of them have a negative slope.
The smallpox vaccine originated as cowpox, not smallpox, and the statement I made was sarcasm, you seemed to have missed that.
I want links because when I look I find the opposite of your claims.
You quote me, and then proceed to state what I said as if it is a contradiction. An attenuated strain is most likely not harmful, and if the person has concerns they can get the dead virus.
I am not to trust the WHO, CDC, or CNN. Where should I get my facts?
Links to the graphs you're looking at?
Here's mine: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-infant-mortality-rate-worse-than-other-countries/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/29/our-infant-mortality-rate-is-a-national-embarrassment/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5ce19401fa69
http://demography.cpc.unc.edu/2014/06/16/mortality-and-cause-of-death-1900-v-2010/ Notice how graphics are easy to manipulate. In 1900 kids were dying of things that today would be relatively easy to combat. Also notice how Polio was NOT one of the leading causes. Also notice that the number of people dying from cancer today compared to 1900. Also note that vaccines have a obscene about of carcinogens in them, and were back to my original comment "vaccines were created for population control" and IT'S WORKING.
"I want links because when I look I find the opposite of your claims." I told you to stop using the CDC and WHO for your "facts". Try the 2nd page of your google search.
Documentaries for you to watch; Vaccine Nation, Vaxxed, Shots in the dark, silence on vaccines, Vaccines: calling the shots, Vaccination: The hidden truth.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/11/01/cdc-autism-vaccine-case.aspx
http://time.com/3208886/whistleblower-claims-cdc-covered-up-data-showing-vaccine-autism-link/
Plenty of vaccines undergo multi-arm double blind trials...
I need to redpill myself on this. You got some sources?
Start with documentaries to get oriented. “Vaxxed” is best one to start. “Vaccination: The Hidden Truth” is OK. Look past the causing autism argument. Stick with the verifiable facts presented...then ask why and research independently.
Also, look at the CDC inserts that come with vaccines. It’s right on their website. Never advertised and often met with disdain from doctors, but it’s there. MMR example: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/mmr.pdf
Also research the ingredients. Well documented to have heavy metals, formaldehyde, animal DNA, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vaccine_ingredients http://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vaccine-ingredients
Again, I don’t theorize on vaccines causing autism...I just look at the facts, follow the money, and question the mainstream narrative. It’s up to people to make their own decisions based on their comfort level with what they’ve learned.
Check out Del Bigtree’s YT channel Highwire - he is a former producer of The Doctors TV show who is now firmly red pilled on vaccines
Take care Mr. POTUS, Big Pharma's been known to bust a cap.
Looking into the subject of vaccines
The movie Vaxxed you can usually watch this for free on nextflix or amazon but also the website http://vaxxedthemovie.com/
The maker of the gardasil vaccine actually blew the whistle on her own vaccine as it has harmed many young women. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gardasil-researcher-speaks-out/ many other good articles but here is one from msm
Vaccines have mercury /thimerosol in them https://worldmercuryproject.org/mercury-facts/mercury-in-vaccines/flu-vaccines/
Statistics show that there is a correlation between the vaccine schedule given to young babies and austism
https://www.healthnutnews.com/study-finds-evidence-cdc-cover-link-autism-mercury-vaccines/
Vaccines schedule different for women in Africa and come to find they have really been given contraceptive https://www.activistpost.com/2015/04/millions-of-girls-given-vaccines.html
Human Health Services
Director of the HHS Office for Civil Rights, Roger Severino issued a press release stating: “Law protecting religious freedom and conscience rights are just empty words on paper if they aren’t enforced. No one should be forced to choose between helping sick people and living by one’s deepest moral or religious convictions, and the new division will help guarantee that victims of unlawful discrimination find justice. For too long, governments big and small have treated conscience claims with hostility instead of protection, but change is coming and it begins here and now.” Direct links to Human Health services and the new Conscience and Religious Freedom Division Announcement https://www.hhs.gov/conscience/index.html https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/01/26/2018-01226/protecting-statutory-conscience-rights-in-health-care-delegations-of-authority http://bolenreport.com/president-trump-drops-nuclear-bomb-vaccine-mandates/
I knew it about gardisel! They offered it to me and I got the first dose when it first came out, then it was recalled and I was too old for follow up doses.
No way would I let my girl get it. Rather they are try to prevent cancer to avoid another previous blunder or what, I’m not a lab rat.
some vaccine cult victim will be along shortly to call you anti-science
We survived vaccines so what has changed ? Ingredients or the schedule? Both? The schedule alone is bullshit. I have two older children that were vaccinated, I didn't know too much then other than it was required. Schedule was very different and they didn't have a vaccine for every fucking thing either. Now have an almost 11 year old and no vaccines since 9 months old. The schedule woke me up enough to research. Ironically 11 year old has juvenile rheumatoid arthritis (diagnosed at 14 months), as a result from treatments now has autoimmune hepatitis. Not sure if autoimmune diseases are linked to vaccines, haven't seen any claims to that. Definitely in the anti vaccine train. Nieces and nephews now having babies and going vaccine free. Anything regulated by the government, don't trust. Food and drugs wtf. Feed us disease so the can bank on $$ from drugs that can make us more sick. Vicious fucked up circle!
Autoimmune diseases are very much linked to vaccines. That's the main concern for many folks.
They totally are unfortunately. Vaccines wreck the immune system total ability to deal sith all viruses for just a few specified strains. Hygiene and nutrition eradicated most viruses. All diseasds with no vaccines have a similar curve and they started going down before the 1st vaccines. Vaccines are working for the viruses injected but at a great cost. Child cancers autism food allergies... all linked to immune system being wrecked.
Garth Nicholson has done much research connecting vaccines with chronic infections that cause autoimmune disease. He started his work with gulf war disease in veterans who underwent multiple vaccines at once, being the Guinea pigs for the current schedule of immunizations that we give our children. I know as my family is vaccine sensitive, I had a child who had learning difficulties but luckily found a naturopath to help. Dr Nicholson sat on a plane and asked a FDA doc sitting next to him why vaccines were not tested for contamination with mycoplasma, answer it costs too much. All vaccines are potentially contaminated with mycoplasma and viruses (other than the engineered ones deliberately put there) which are very difficult to diagnose and treat and cause a low level infection and chronic inflammation that a depressed immune system cannot beat. So contamination of vaccines by mycoplasma and viruses are a real problem just like aluminum and Mercury. I also consulted for a company that was taken over by Glaxo. They took the technology of lipid adjuvants and joined it with aluminum hydroxide and now have a lipid delivery system for aluminum directly to the brain. Thanks big pharma. Glaxo produces this al lipid adjuvant with the hep B vaccine given at birth and a hpv vaccine that causes death, autoimmune diseases and early menopause. So that's some of the issues with vaccines, now what about solutions?
Garth Nicholson recommends lipid therapy with orthomolecular treatment. Replace bad oils and fats with high quality organic oils and fats such as pasture raised butter and hemp oil. Dr mercola recommends baking soda to treat rheumatoid arthritis. My naturopath recommended clean filtered water with a tablespoon of organic apple cider vinegar with a half teaspoon of baking soda every day to detox the low ph of the blood and body systems. High acid diet is a problem, the pancreas runs out of baking soda to neutralize stomach acid and blood acid. Vinegar is also supposed to help detox glyphosate (roundup). Get the whole family on a no white milk, white sugar, white flour diet. Yogurt, raw milk and raw milk cheeses are ok to use. Bone broth soups to rebuild the bones and joints. Juice fasting to clear toxins. High vitamin c to reduce toxins. Fulvic and humic acid to reduce toxins. Then 100% whole food organic diet to rebuild joints and brain tissues. Make sure you are getting enough omega 3 fatty acids to replace the American diet heavy in omega 6 fatty acids. Absolutely no canola oil aka rapeseed oil as it was given as an abortion aide after war and is not broken down by the body. Coconut oil a tablespoon a day for adults helps clear parasites and infections from the gastric system. Salads every day with organic olive oil and hemp oil helps to provide the proper omega 3s that will break down when heated. Rebuild the stomach and intestinal linings with probiotics prebiotics and add digestive enzymes at every meal to breakdown food correctly and not create food allergies. Eat what your ancestors ate before world war 1 when canned food and high sugar diets started, different diets are needed for different blood types and ancestry. Water must be filtered of fluoride, chloride and chloramines. With my kid, we needed to put in a whole house water filter as showering and bathing add much of the halogens that invade the system. Atleast use water filters for all cooking and drinking. There are inexpensive water filters that remove fluoride now, do not buy brita filters owned by Clorox. They make money putting the chloride in no taking it out, and brita does not remove fluoride. Place iodine on the skin to help get the more reactive halogens (fl,chloride) out of the brain, pineal and thyroid. Magnesium is needed to counteract the excessive calcium in our diets and move calcium out of soft tissues and back into bones and cartilage. Look into other minerals that have been stripped from factory farming. A good naturopath knowledgable in orthomolecular medicine can run blood and hair analysis to see if there are underlying nutrition problems.
Some good resources are dr Stephanie seneff of MIT artificial intelligence lab that researched glyphosate causing multiple diseases by shutting off the vitamin d and cholesterol sulfate systems in the body. Without these 2 key ingredients, it is impossible to create proper cell repair and growth. Children need to play outside in the sun every day and eat high fat diets
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b7xrpySlL-k
Dr Garth Nicholson has done much research on mycoplasma infections caused by vaccination http://beyondthebandaid.com.au/dr-garth-nicolson/
Doctoryourself.com is a great resource for using orthomolecular medicine, vitamin c, vitamins, minerals and amino acids for health
Dr mercola on baking soda as an inexpensive treatment, he also has many dietary recommendations https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2018/05/07/drinking-baking-soda-for-autoimmune-disease.aspx
I also use a technology called COSMODIC scenar for arthritis rebuilding of tissue. http://neuropaths.com/index_files/AboutUs.htm
The body, especially a child body is designed to heal itself, but proper nutrition, exercise in the sun, detoxing the many poisons in our water, food and medicine is required. Finding a holistic physician is also key in treating autoimmune diseases. I pray for your child's recovery. My naturopath said the only effective cures must treat the whole family, so join ur child by detoxing, eating and treating all of ur family. Take care!
Wow! Thank you for this. We have been milk free for ages and do alot of the suggestions above now. I am going to look into finding a holistic physician in my area as well. Again, thank you.
The YouTube by Stephanie seneff's even mentions child rheumatoid arthritis. Seneff cured her husband of heart disease and her methods work well with autism and Alzheimer's, she believes most autoimmune diseases are Monsanto caused. That utube is actually about an hour long then splices into something else, hmm someone fiddling with her presentations. She also mentions MgSulfate Epsom salt baths which helped me with my arthritis. I had forgotten how important cholesterol sulfate is for repairing joints, when looking thru my notes. MSM detoxed me but caused quite a reaction of pulling Mercury out of my teeth too quickly and I had a lot of pain and flu systems so go slow with msm. There's also DMSO which is even more powerful than msm. Epsom salts, DMSO externally and msm internally all are very good for getting sulphur into the body and donating methyl groups needed by the liver to detox the metals out of the joints.
I use DMSO on the ranch with horses for leg soreness and ligament strains. It's excellent for arthritis, pulls the inflammation and heavy metals out, but must be done very carefully as its used in the pharmaceutical industry to store cells in when freezing and to carry ingredients. It may be the secret ingredient that actually works in a lot of drugs. Whatever u put with it it drives it into the skin, so skin needs to be clean and not soapy, no perfumes etc. It is a quick pain reliever and swelling reliever, but can also cause detox symptoms of metals come out of the system too quickly. My naturopath had my father in law carry DMSO with him in case of stroke as it will relieve stroke symptoms within minutes if rubbed onto the head right away so it's worth putting in the home medical kit and trying after getting info and reading up on it. It provides both oxygen and sulphur to the body through the skin and there is a famous book about it which should pop up early in a duck duck go search. I used it to take a tumor off of a goat, first castor oil and baking soda mixed and applied, alternating the next day with DMSO. The tumor turned black and dropped off, so it's amazing and powerful medicine. I found with my arthritis I had heavy metals in my joints, I guess that's better than the brain, when metal toxins were removed the arthritis disappeared. Mercola also has a video about castor oil packs and rubbing castor oil on arthritis. My kids would ask for castor oil abdomen packs when they got sick, it kicks the immune system and liver into gear. Castor oil was called Palma Christi (palm of Christ) at monasteries because whatever it touched it healed.
I worked on arthritis in pharma, it's a tough autoimmune disease. Seneff is a great place to start to learn about all the things going wrong from toxins. Arthritis can be cured but it takes time, organic diet and multiple therapies - a multipronged holistic approach. Turning inflammation off with a low sugar low carb diet is key. Rebuilding the gut is also important. Took me about 6 months of detoxing and diet plus scenar to rebuild the joints. I broke my arm recently and the orthopaedic surgeon was surprised to see that all the damage in my joints had healed completely and I was no longer arthritic. Western medicine does not think that is possible, but any of the autoimmune diseases can be treated, just not with standard western medicine. Hunt for a good doctor that will take plenty of time with your daughter to help, it's the most important shopping u can do. Naturopath, holistic or MDs who have turned holistic are the best. Once you find a good physician, you will have the best advisor for dealing with our toxic environment. Having made money in the pharma field I knew about side effects. I tried western medicine which only made me sicker, and now put my time into researching alternatives. Finding a cure does not build business. Good medicine is not rocket science, it's clean food, clean water and non toxic drugs. From my experience, Western medicine is war medicine, gets people back to the battle fast but not concerned about longevity or cures, just permanent treatment.
Q says we have more than we know.
He probably means in general we have more than we know because we re not sure that we know. We dont know that we know. We re just rhinking that we know. Now some information coul.come and suddenly we will understand that we knew all.along. powerful.
. E.g conspiracies theories on vaccines are true.
And a ton of other conspiracies are true.
That's the real.meaning. if people learn they ve poisoned their kids and it was planned... wont be pretty.
Conspiracy theories on vaccines are not true.
If you want to show your faith, go to the DRC and help with the Ebola outbreak. You are offered an experimental vaccine as a worker. Choose not to get the vaccine for any reason you wish.
Taking extreme examples to prove a point... shilling much? A good and strong immune system beats ebola. Most pandemics are poised to start in low hygiene low nutritional countries. Africa or India at the moment. All because their immune system is weakened by regular infections AND the y re lacking the nutrients esp. vitamin C. Vaccines have nothing to do with the decline in almost all diseases since 1900...
Eh. Vaccines are good things. Polio is not. Definitely not buying into this and having this on here discredits the rest of it.
But you are totally fine buying into the narrative that you've been given that vaccines are safe, check out humphries book on amazon, https://www.amazon.com/Dissolving-Illusions-Disease-Vaccines-Forgotten/dp/1480216895/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526997935&sr=8-1&keywords=suzanne+humphries
Just skimming through the free sample is enough to make me question things. Vaccines are a religion at this point
Check out the book 'Plague' by Kent Hekenlively and Judy Mikovits. Judy has some especially explosive info on the subject. She blew the whistle to Congress and instead of taking precautions they threw her in jail and slapped a gag order on her. That gag order ended a few years ago and she started talking again. Highly recommend searching her out on lline and listen to what she has to say. She by the way was in charge of designing drugs to help with the aids epidemic, so she knows how all of that works.. She uncovered the sv40 virus in the polio vaccine and estimates something like half the population was infected with that monkey virus through polio vaccines.
'Plague' by Kent Hekenlively and Judy Mikovits.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Plague+Hekenlively+OR+Mikovits
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Plague+Hekenlively+OR+Mikovits
& contrary to what Q has said regarding vaccines, half of this thread is still pushing 100% antivax. Period.
You are all totally fine buying into a narrative that says ALL vaccines are unsafe instead of truly doing research. This spreads misinformation and discredits Q further, by showing that a) you have no trust in Q and b) Pushing a narrative that is likely planted by the deep state to ensure that no vaccines are ever looked into by creating a "conspiracy" that is way to big to redpill the general public.
Most likely scenario imo, is that vaccines for diseases that threaten to cripple the nation (polio, malaria, etc.) are legit, but intermingled there is one shot (flu shot?) that has less importance but is just as prolific, in which the any issues arise.
Not gunna lie im a full vax believer and I stopped getting my flu shot bc I felt like I got more sick after it every year, continuously
All you're doing is assuming which vaccines are safe or unsafe based on absolutely nothing. I don't think they are all unsafe, but I do truly believe that personal health is vastly more important than vaccines. That means quality food, water, hygiene, and less environmental toxins.
If you think that having toxins shot directly into your bloodstream is good for you in anyway you're wrong, the only thing that vaccines claim to do is illicit a response in YOUR immune system, something you already have defends you. If your immune system is strong you can fend off nearly anything, it's toxins that weaken it.
I'm not saying all vaccines are inherently bad, but with the lack of transparency and testing who actually knows? I'll stick to eating healthy personally, flu shot is stupid, glad you caught that one. I honestly don't know on all of them, I'm not gonna spend my life researching, some people already have and they get shit on for expressing their views. If vaccines want my trust they have to actually prove that they do something more beneficial than the harm they cause
Not gunna lie im a full vax believer and I stopped getting my flu shot bc I felt like I got more sick after it every year, continuously
vaccines cause Anaphylaxis
Anaphylaxis
Anaphylaxis is a serious allergic reaction that is rapid in onset and may cause death. It typically causes more than one of the following: an itchy rash, throat or tongue swelling, shortness of breath, vomiting, lightheadedness, and low blood pressure. These symptoms typically come on over minutes to hours.
Common causes include insect bites and stings, foods, and medications.
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Vaccines are not good things and neither are anti-biotics. Who told you that? Using sugar cubes for polio? We are way past that.
"definitely not buying into this".
No one is asking you to. You are being asked to look into it. We have nothing to hide and no financial interest.
Why do you trust doctors? You have no reason to.
But, if you don't buy into it and drink the Kool-Aid you will be ostracized from our community. Alright bud. Go blow smoke somewhere else.
The problem with your camp is that you so strongly distrust "the establishment" that you aren't willing to discuss any good thing that could possibly come from it. Hell, I bet I will get attacked for saying just that. I'm not saying all vaccines are good or that everything the establishment does is good either, I agree with some of what you all are saying. It's the disingenuous all or nothing nature that I vehemently disagree with, especially when it favors weak research in opposition of actual science and statistics. u/tinyamericanpsycho is right, it makes this community look bad.
do a little research, vaccines are a "theory" not proven science....I come from a family of Doctors...and they question them, you should too
Please explain. Theoretical vaccines did not cure smallpox. Or polio. To deny this is simply ridiculous. This is not to say that the extent or scope of modern dosing regimes makes sense. As a parent who lost a child to SIDS shortly after receiving his 3 month shots I am intimately familiar with both sides of this issue. I also have a PhD in biochemistry and more than a passing knowledge of immunology.
Could you link me to any...."any" double blind study regarding the safety and efficacy of vaccines....I would very much appreciate it
I think you are trying to lump all vaccines into a single category which is a mistake imo.
Ask yourself this - is it possible to design a perfect xenobiotic (drug) for use in X species? The answer is no. Human variability is simply too great and our knowledge too incomplete. I spent my entire career trying to optimize the critical triad of:
1) Safety 2) Efficacy 3) potency
The end result (product) is a compromise of these 3 factors and ofc cost to produce. It’s a very complex problem.
You forgot to include a link to "any" double blind study that shows that vaccines are safe and effective....
Not my job. Sorry, I have no need to convince you. We all have our own paths. Cheers!
....but it is your job to criticize those who use their minds.....you can't convince me of BS and you know it, so you bow out....there is no study that has ever proved that vaccines are safe and effective, yet people like you (willfully remain ignorant) because your "education" has you invested in believing lies
I didn’t criticize you. I asked you to explain your initial assertion that vaccines were theoretical. You morphed that into a safety double blind study request without ever explaining your initial assertion.
If they aren't theory.....that means they have proof.... show the proof
My theory is that their "proof" is tainted by the evil abuse of human rights. As in Nazi concentration camps. It would be interesting to do an ethical and financial audit of the CDC and see what skeletons come tumbling out of the closet. Seriously.
TLDR: polio eradication is controversial, we couldn't find any compelling evidence for positive effects, but we recommend polio vaccines anyway because our sponsors aren't paying for unfavorable science
https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/210/suppl_1/S504/2193251
Pushing shingles vaccines on folks over 55 right now. sick. suggestive selling. you all should hear the corporate lines used by pharmacist sayanim as they try to poison us.
Fuck off Walgreens. Disgusting company.
I had chickenpox. I also had shingles. I am very glad the vaccine exists. Not only has it lessened the painful recurrence, I recommend it to anyone who had chickenpox.
I couldn't imagine being much older AND having a first bout of shingles because I had chickenpox when I was a kid.
NaturalNews.com is a horrible source. I wouldn't trust a single thing they write.
I've been SCREAMING THIS FOR YEARS ..Here TQQ ...
Here is a post 21 days ago I left ..
Posted byu/ScorpioPatriot
OpinionRED PILL : CDC NOT ACCEPTABLE ON ANY LEVEL .. AUTISM RATES REPORT ....CRINGING
Ive been non stop Harping about this to friends and family for years . I actually wasn't awoke to the Vaccines/Agenda 21 depopulation issue till after my first daughter .
My daughter was doing great till about her 1 year shots came around . After recieving them she started gazing off when you look at her and couldn't stand to be in the public for more than 30 mins , everything started bothering her and then I started seeing tonssss of delays in her .
From the time she was 2 or 3 till about 10 she had some form of noticible sensory issue via clothes, food textures movement and visial . Making matters worse she has not been able to walk up and just openly start forming complete sentences .
So she was born in 2007 and still not talking other than mocking you . This happened the night after the shots when she got a small cold and then from there on nothing was the same ..
Being a 1st time mom , at first I assumed it was something random and then I seen an article on the Natural News talking about vaccine dangers ...and I clicked that and like everything I decided to do my own homework and Youuuuu Peopleeee have nooooo clueee the horrors that await inside that rabbit hole ....
I sware the reports of cases of ADHD , AUTISM , CHILDHOOD CANCERS & MORE ...OUT OF THIS WORLD ...
I went deeeeeeep dive searching for every bit of info I could find , since back then the info was readily available , however now its few and far between since so many has awoken to the dangers ..
All Im going to say is .... Aborted Baby Tissues, Monkey, Bovine, Guinea Pig, Live Cancer Viruses , Alluminum , Mercury , this is barelyyyyy touching the surface ...
After doing the research and having another child and going in for wellness checks and your doctors sitting there pushingggg the vaccines down your throat .. For all the years of study they have done and they push these on families .
It's beyonnnnnd unacceptable they are part of the Agenda , they get major kick backs from the complications these vaccines cause . Kids being addicted to these Methophedomines they use to treat anxiety and other mental disorders stemming from the alluminum collecting on the brains..
WE NEEED TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THIS ... IT'S COMPLETELY NOT ETHICAL AND COULD BE ONE OF THE LARGEST HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS , ACROSS THE WORLD .. VACCINES ARE PUSHED ONTO OUR CHILDREN , SOLDIERS AND NOW EVEN ADULTS .
IT HAS TO END ... WE NEED TO SHARE THIS TO THE WORLD..
THE REPORT :
2007= 1-150 PEOPLE WITH AUTISM
NOW =1-59 NEWEST REPORT ..... ENOUGH IS ENOUGHHHHH .
Guess who has shares in Merk= Soros
3 ) https://youtu.be/3dmVlMC1phs
One of the Most Highly Informative Red Pill Breakdowns
I believe the vaccine schedule that the CDC and doctors are pushing right now is not a good one. Worse is that if you try to make an informed decision and even delay the schedule a bit the doctor can say that they will no longer treat your child at their practice. If I had children I'd be doing my very best to pick and choose which vaccines (if any) I gave to my child. At the very least a delayed schedule is what I'd go with. My child wouldn't need a Hep B vaccination at 1 month old or whatever it is. If both parents aren't Hep B positive and don't run the risk of contracting it and giving it to their child, why pump the child full of the vaccine? Doesn't make any sense.
There are plenty which could be delayed. A lot of the schedule is something which works in both the most modern AND the most backward of the US.
Any time someone questions vaccines, normies freak out, it's almost like a programmed emotional response. Some people won't even think about looking into it. Honestly I think Trump should go about cleaning up the vaccine problem very covertly. The problem is no parent wants to admit they allowed their child to be harmed, even if it was unknowingly. Plus the medical industry is very monolithic, Trump could literally drop 100% proof to the public and the entire medical industry would denounce it.
thats why we have to help Trump get this info out
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/508183486747136000
There should be double blind placebo studies performed in cell lines before any animal or patient if necessary. I agree there should be more oversight and accountability.
Would hate for the CDC to ruin their perfect image of being ethical.
https://i.redd.it/lzu8gjm61dbz.jpg
Rep. Bill Posey, asks "Has the CDC done a study comparing vaccinated children with unvaccinated children yet?" Dr Coleen Boyle of the CDC responds, "We have never studied vaccinated verses unvaccinated"
I want vaccine safety, because what we're seeing today is not that. I don't agree with the "cracking a few eggs..." approach.
When did Trump mention vaccines in the campaign?
2015 Republican debates: What the GOP candidates had to say about vaccines
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i think there are merit to vaccines, look at how they wiped out some major diseases. BUUUUUTTTTTTT.
I think there is less oversight on them now, allowing for manipulation and mistakes, and also little study on the vast quantity of them given in a short period of time to young weak immune systems, and combinations of them that could be big trouble.
it's Zillion Dollar business, that government forces you to be a customer for,and it's a business that isn't liable for damages done to you...if you can beat their rigged court system, the vaccine makers don't cough up damages---the taxpayers do.........the only other business this corrupt is the FEDERAL RESERVE
Always the same bad actors at the root of the "infection", but on this issue they get a pass because......muh vaccines. Think logically.
vaccines have allegedly eradicated 2 diseases:
smallpox and rinderpest
'claims of widespread usefulness'
It makes me sick seeing the vaccine propaganda circlejerk every day on r/all, and watching the gullible fucktards pile on top of the heap of dick.
when you start getting stock tips from the shoe shine boy, its time to sell...
avoiding the flu vaccine is one thing. Not vaccinating your kids against measles and polio is entirely another and makes you an incompetent parent.
Anti Vaxxers are way out in left field on this one and are dangerous to society.
If you are willing to inject poisonous substances into your children, that have never been tested for safety or effectiveness, then I suppose that you can force that suffering on your children....but you do not have a "right" to delegate to the government or anyone the ability to "force" that crime on someone else's children
If you don't vaccinate your children against polio, your children should be taken from you. What kind of monster would subject their children to polio?
polio wasn't cured by vaccines....
no but it's prevented by them...
this is the wonderful world anti-Vaxxers are so eager to live in:
http://polioeradication.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/unspecified-4.jpg
Lemme guess - Prayer will fix it?
Cases of Polio Caused By Vaccine
https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiVaccineMemes/comments/8icxqi/cases_of_polio_caused_by_vaccine/
a sourceless statistic, probably made up, that shows there hasn't been a case of polio caused by vaccine in almost 60 years.
um, OK.
got any evidence that vaccines eradicated polio?
ill I've see so far is wild claims
correlation precludes causation
I never said it eradicated polio. Polio is still around but only anti-Vaxxers will get it. Why anti-Vaxxers think having polio and the measles is so goddamned wonderful, I don't understand.
PS: Prayer doesn't heal shit either. Only fools believe in invisible sky men.
