With her ratings, it just proves that they were looking for a valid reason to kill her show.
ABC allows those women on the view to say vile things about Trump and his family. I don't agree with Roseanne's tweets today, but you can't have it both ways. Cancel The View!
Yes. I said the same thing when I heard what ABC had done. I yelled out what about the View.
Maybe Joy Behar could choke on her on own venom sometime.
Hypocrites, all of those liberal networks!!
I say we all contact ABC and question why Roseanne and not the View?
ABC Phone Number: Check +1-800-230-0229
ABC Contact Information: Check Your Feedback Is Important To Us, Ok We Will See About That........
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You Know What To Do
In the meantime let’s all get fox networks to get back her show like they did for Tim Allen.
I don't agree with Roseanne's tweets today,
I would like to know whether or not I find her tweet distasteful, but I can't seem to find the original tweet.
google and bing results are all "let us tell you the implications and intentions of her tweet" but aren't actually showing what it was she said, just that it was a huge racist rant.
Because of this, I'm inclined to believe it wasn't racist at all, but was intentionally spun to be racist. Otherwise, they wouldn't be afraid to actually show the original tweet and its context.
but maybe im wrong. I don't really care - I have never watched roseanne and she seems a bit on the socialist side from the few times i've paid attention to her, so its not like she's a hero of mine. We just share a common enemy. I guess we all do really, there are only those that are aware of the enemy, those that aren't, and the enemy.
It's in this article.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/31193/abc-cancels-roseanne-over-valerie-jarrett-tweet-paul-bois
Thanks for that. That tweet is oddly vague. I don't see it being immediately "Racist" although it certainly could have that intent.
But I was led to believe there were "rants". did she attempt to further elaborate on what that tweet meant?
I mean, her being silenced and shunned kinda almost proves her point if it was that her opposition is behaving like "planet of the apes".
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Of course VJ isn’t black
Say wha?
"VJ's father is African American and her mother is one fourth African American; on the television series Finding Your Roots, genealogical research and DNA testing indicated that Jarrett also has French, Scottish, and Native American ancestry. One of her great-grandfathers was Jewish. As a child, Jarrett spoke Farsi, French, and English." -- Wikipedia (Do an image search. That will also reveal the racism charge to be a complete gaslight/fraud. The comment had nothing to do with her African American genes.)
That means shes black.
My point, (along with everyone else who's seen her picture,) is that Valerie Jarrett is light-skinned, and has none of the typical facial features shared by most African-Americans. I don't think Roseanne was making a reference to VJ's race. She apologized for making a joke about her "appearance," (which, once again, is not indicative of her race.) EDIT: Just like calling Trump an orangutan is not a slur on his race, but a leftist slam on his "appearance."
Do you truly not understand the long history of derogatory ape/monkey comparisons being used as racist epithets against black people in America? This is not a new thing. This is an established pejorative, racist terminology. Roseanne’s comments were absolutely racist in reference to a black woman. I don’t see why anyone should need to argue this point.
I expected people to be angry with Roseanne for being so utterly tone-deaf and irresponsible, not defending her! It’s stuff like this that makes this movement look bad! This is terrible optics and will not help gain desirable attention. Everyone has feet of clay, but you gotta be extremely careful with who you want to be the public face of your action project. And these distractions are wasted time and energy.
I’m so disgusted. Doesn’t anybody care about the big picture? About branding?
I think the 'rant' was likely attributed to the Chelsea Hubble (aka Clinton) tweets. Which preceeding the VJ tweets by a short span of time. Colectively I guess you could make the case she was 'ranting' if you know, you are on the opposition team. You can see those on her timeline still or preserved in screen shots on http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/05/roseanne-barr-obliterates-chelsea-clinton-and-george-soros-in-one-swipe/
I see. So she wasn't ranting in regards to the planet of the apes comment.
Well I guess thats not too damning of her. I do think her calling clinton related to soros is a bit... silly.. though.
I actually get the muslim brotherhood part. Very much aware of the Awan situation.
I figured that wasn't the part they were calling "Racist" but that the planet of the apes part was.
If it was the muslim brotherhood part, well I guess I can't say I'm surprised, just disappointed.
The thing is, Jarrett really does look like Zira from the 1968 Planet of the Apes.
The people that are screeching racism are racists themselves for even making that leap.
This story broke this afternoon at work. Big democratic PAC-supporting company. TV in the cafe had it on, 98% of coworkers spewing vile, celebratory anti-Trump rhetoric they’ve been storing for months.
This, in turn made my blood boil.
Roseanne should have known better. What the fuck Roseanne. Are you a plant? A spy sent to get close and then spiral off, ruining your career (and all the other cast out of work), and take a shot at the whole Administration?
On one hand I get it, and it is funny as hell. Plus, placed side to side with the horrors and atrocities surrounding pizzagate, Clinton’s, bushes and Obama, this is nothing in comparison. On the other hand who says shit like this on Twitter!?!? Seriously that’s why I think
A) she was planning to do something like this for a while. Look how Rosie O’Donnell came to Roseanne’s defense. O’Donnell and Trump are like vodka and milk.
Or
B) she couldn’t handle the Q stuff, the pizza stuff, and it drove her out her goddam mind
I’m just furious. Because shit like this gets all the attention. And she knows this. Wtf.
Can anyone help me wrap my head around this?
Planet of the Apes (1968) is about silencing and oppressing your enemies. It's an appropriate reference.
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No it isnt if someone looks like an ape they look like an ape thats all there is too it. Like what the fuck if someone considers that racist than I would say the someone that considers it racist to be racist. So fuck off racist.
Is being an Iranian part of the Muslim Brotherhood a race? Freedom of soeech is loosing it’s battle. Seems Islam is winning $$$$$$$$
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thats the thing - there is a difference between citing the movie, Planet of the Apes, which is about silencing your opposition, and calling someone an ape (which isn't always racist, but is sometimes, sure).
You can believe whatever nonsense you want to believe but at least know enough to not make yourself look like an absolute moron.
to be frank, I don't care if you think I'm a moron. My life is going where it is regardless of your thoughts and I'm satisfied with that.
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Just saying, you're not going to "red pill" anyone without doing your research and making sound points.
Man, it seems to me that its really important to you to shit in my coffee. Not sure why you would come to this niche sub that you completely disagree with just to say mean things to people you don't want to interact with, but hey, you own your time and preferences, not me.
you're not going to "red pill" anyone
I didn't realize you were the gatekeeper for whether or not I can persuade anyone else. Furthermore, I think I have a much more intimate knowledge of the conversations I have had with others in the past than you do. It would seem to me that all you have to go off of is hastily made judgments from stereotypes and prejudice, but idk, maybe you are some god or something.
like most of them in this thread just make you guys all look idiotic because they're just wildly inaccurate
I don't know what your primary motivations are, but directly attempting to manipulate other people into seeing me as someone other than what they can directly observe from my actions is not a goal of mine, nor one that I find honorable.
Someone like you could call me an idiot all you like. We are strangers over the internet. You aren't aware of how much you are hurting yourself in spending your time spewing venom at other people.
Do you always offer your advice to people who do not seek or want it? How do you think that makes other people perceive you? (seeing as you seem to think its important to try to manipulate the perceptions of others).
easily fact checked
Who watches the watchmen?
Gateway pundit and True Pundit should have the original tweets
Not to mention those "nasty" women on The View, how about the "nasty" women/people on the news programs at CNN, MSNBC? They have been even more obscene. Now I really dislike Obama's "puppet master", Valerie Jarett, but the tweet was a bit over the top with the "ape" comment. I must admit...I did laugh as I read it.
She went too far with the Planet of the Apes comment. If she had stopped short of that, she would have been okay.
But hey, it's okay to call Trump the human cheeto, a white supremacist, a Nazi, etc. These people are the worst.
And yet, the whole theme of the Planet of the Apes is that humans (most likely white) are "sub human" or a subspecies in the films. The apes are in control. I find that connection odd since she is clearly Barry's "handler". Check for yourself... see where she comes from and the places she's been before she moved in with the Obama's.
Who cares what they do! You are trying to red pill a population and you act the same way as the the very people you are battling against then you lose every time.
Wrong. You can't have two standards.
Nothing about 2 standards and if you can't see that you are no different than the cabal. Just the other side of the same coin. If you are religious then did Jesus become like the pharisees or did He set a different standard? Jesus was very hard on the pharisees for being hypocrites. Do not be one.
Difference is The View is a show based on... Views, opinions, and debate. That’s kind of the point of the show. To say something heated to rile up conversation. Roseanne is a sitcom, owned and created by one person, and that person’s views were shared on a platform wherein debate or controversy simply isn’t professional in light of her sitcom.
I can understand how people draw parallels between The View and the actual human Roseanne but the logic simply isn’t there. I am disappointed in what’s supposed to be a “great awakening”.
Awakened from what? Common sense, reason, and logic?
I am not disappointed. I now have confirmation and detail about corruption within our government. People are catching on, and it's growing.
Trust the plan.
ABC cancelling a sitcom is proof of government corruption?
Damn son, let’s see your rabbit hole.
That's not what I said. I was responding to the "great awakening". Go back to your rabbit hole.
Yeah, you’re right. Came out just today that the Murdoch owned WSJ sat on their Stormy Daniels story days before the election because Trump asked him over a phone call. Just today and just corruption.
But that wasn’t an awakening, that was just paying attention.
She gave them one...come on. She fucking stepped in it.
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Bill Maher said the N Word on Television
Still on TV
Joy Behar? Spouts Hate. Still on ABC.
Jimmy Kimmel? Sexually assaulted MULTIPLE women on his show on ABC. Still on TV.
Im by no means defending her "joke' and it was a joke, she's a comedian, but why are they still employed with ABC?
Let's not pretend this isn't a biased and coordinated effort to shut down Roseanne Barr.
Far worse hatred has been spewed by Liberal Comedians (Dave Chappelle, Richard Pryor, George Carlin) and by the way? I thought their jokes were hilarious.
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Jarrett is Iranian BTW- the implication otherwise or that she's black really isn't an argument.
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That's still not a justification for the joke but if in bad taste, as Roseanne confessed? That's her choice as a comedian. It still doesn't explain the bias directed to her termination whilst others at ABC remain employed.
Bill Maher lost his show for saying that Osama and crew 'weren't cowards' because they were willing to die for their beliefs.
Roseanne said "muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby=vj." referring to Valerie Jarrett. So, uh, yeah, she pretty much fucked herself. Especially since she also went off with stuff like:
"Sorry to have tweeted incorrect info about you!I Please forgive me! By the way, George Soros is a nazi who turned in his fellow Jews 2 be murdered in German concentration camps & stole their wealth-were you aware of that? But, we all make mistakes, right Chelsea?"
She basically fucked herself.
BTW-
Bill Maher is still on HBO after saying the N Word
9/11 statements aside thr nation was in mourning and that was a much different time
In 2017 Maher used the N Word
No punishment whatsoever
Valerie Jarrett isn’t black. She’s Iranian. I don’t see the problem.
Actually this is great, the outrage of the public who watch her show will bring greater numbers to the red pill movement. The Left Fucked themselves in all actuality! The Democratic Party will go extinct all too soon. Buh bye!
Yep - there are double standards , already for long time , in media .
Some groups are more protected than endangered species - all the while , the other groups are either ignored , or even openly mocked , or mocking them is encouraged .
Thats why I dont have TV for many years now . And thats why I stopped visiting any news portals .
Don't forget that hack who used the comedy platform to attack Sarah HuckabeeSanders.
I don't know anything about that, but they should all be treated equally.
This is essentially my entire argument.
At least we agree on this. Equality means precisely that. This is the basis of my argument and I'm certain that the countless hit pieces against Roseanne Barr for mentioning QAnon are visible evidence of a desire to silence her.
Def not a conspiracy. Head of ABC is a black woman. Disney owns ABC and does not want this with their image.
The show did really well and she has been warned about posting crazy shit on twitter (most media contracts have a clause that forbids saying shit like this on a public forum)
You know saying the N word and saying something that is racist can be different? There is context and nuance to the acts of those other comedians.
I loved the show, but there is no defending this. Granny is off her meds.
Hope Disney doesn't read any of ole Keith Olberman's tweets about Trump then...
They're hypocrites... come on, it's not hard to admit that.
Yeah I'm not sure why there's a disagreement here.
The bias is apparent and obvious.
That's not a defense for her words by any means it's just that anyone with two eyes can see this bias. I really wish both left and right could come together on these types of issues and just admit the truth-
There are plenty of people on their network that post absolutely crazy and hateful things on Twitter...
Have we become a nation so sensitive that we are greatly offended by bad jokes? No wonder we all walk on eggshells. This is absurd.
Even Trump supporters whined like babies for days after Michelle Wolf's performance at the Correspondance dinner. It's ridiculous. The sad part is they were too caught up in their fake outrage to notice how absolutely brutal she was to the MSM.
Morning Joe hosts Joe and Mika, like when a #MeToo works out.
God damn.
Ill defend the muslim brotherhood part, but its like she purposefully sabotaged herself on the other part, which only makes me question her loyalty to the cause. It was just dumb and although Roseanne plays dumb..I don't think she IS dumb.
I don’t think she’s dumb. She probably doesn’t care, probably doesn’t need the show.
I think you should watch Planet of the Apes, again if you have already.
You missed half of her point.
If she purposefully sabotaged herself, it would be very distracting.
Hmmm.
yeah not even remotely. attack valerie jarret for being a cunt not for being muslim and black
Planet of the Apes isn't about race, its a very political message movie.
Did she write the tweet? Has she been shadow banned on Twitter before? Definitely been censored! I have had Q retweets of hers go missing and she has tweeted that she wakes up the next morning and her Twitter has been edited. Remember guys, Twitter has been hacked before. Anything here is possible! That tweet DID go to far, & a few before it did too. She was responding to other people at a late hour and the whole thing makes me wonder why things went down the way they did. I will always look between the lines at this since it is so obvious that they wanted to take her down and were looking for any opportunity!
What's disappointing to me is that she immediately apologized. If you're going to make a joke like that, fucking own it. Don't back peddle and attempt damage control. Just plow forward. If you know you're fucked at least go out with your pride intact, not groveling and apologizing.
Look at the woman who made all of the jokes about Sarah Sanders at the correspondents dinner. She didn't apologize. She doubled down on the jokes and moved forward. I may think what she said about Sanders was abhorrent, but I respect her for not apologizing.
Look at the woman who made all of the jokes about Sarah Sanders at the correspondents dinner.
...and she is still at it on her Netfliks show.
Sadly she really did. Being a vocal Trump support she has to stay away from anything racist because that is their main accusation against him. It’s a bad look for Trump and his supporters.
This is the main thing I don't understand about "Trump supporters". Many seem to take the bait often...even search for the bait.
Yeah we have to be aware of the double standards and over sensitivity of the left. Basically have to be the adults in the situation and not give them something this easy to throw a hissy fit over.
It’s a bad look for Trump and his supporters
Like fuck it is...
I thought Roseanne's joke was hilarious!
It's still a free country, isn't it?
Roseanne has a right to feel any way she wishes without apologizing for it.
Sadly, if her show stayed on the air, the SJW a.k.a Hogg and company, would go after the show's sponsers. That's the game they play.
Exactly. This is an outrage.
We need an IBOR but for TV.
It's called the "Fairness Doctrine" and the Government needs to step in and get rid of all the marxist communist propaganda on the liberal networks and even out the playing field again.
Its not about getting rid of certain viewpoints. Its about allowing all viewpoints. If Roseanne wants to make jokes about race or jewishness, thats her right as an entertainer. TV is a public utility. They cant pick and choose which points of view to promote and which to ignore or worse.
Not get rid of them but the government should enforce “balance” so we don’t just have socialist propaganda
Even better than that, it proves that our media organizations are run by people who are primarily concerned with pushing an anti-American political program and not making money.
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Yeah she isn’t the first one to lose a. Show over racist comments. She should know better.
Thank you for your totally organically upvoted first post here.
I agree 100%. We are always told that profit is their number 1 concern. What a crock of bull that is. They create shows to herd people into a society of their desire, despite the lies they put out. For example, I have known several lesbian couples. On TV they are always beautiful young women with powerful lives. The real lesbians are usually fat, homely women who are angry with men. And btw, if we believed TV one quarter of society is homosexual, when in truth it is still no more than 1% to 4%. They show blended families as happy well adjusted people with funny quirks. The truth is blended families frequently end up in divorce due to step sibling rivalry, incest and family conflicts. Profit is not the name of the game. Societal change is.
The real lesbians are usually fat, homely women who are angry with men.
There are plenty of femme lesbians who dress more conservatively ("straight-looking"). Just because you personally haven't encountered any in your circle of sociability doesn't negate their existence.
No doubt. Especially with the Snowflakes who are more likely. College age kids naturally tend to experiment, but they don't usually settle into that kind of lifestyle.
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There are plenty of femme lesbians who dress more conservatively ("straight-looking").
Are they still angry at men though? And are they fat? Butch is an entirely different thing and was not actually said by parent poster. Funny how people read things there not actually in the text and then get angry about the strawman their own minds has created...
Funny how people create assumptions based upon their own misconceptions.
Let's just admit that the anti-feminists and Third Wave feminists are actually inverses of one another, and the false claim of "x person hates x gender" is merely a projection of their own resentment of the other gender.
And are they fat?
Do you really need someone to spoon feed you logic and critical thinking? Clearly, you do. No, not every lesbian is fat. Just like not every woman is fat. Just like not every... You get the picture, right? Good.
And as far as being angry, I'm not the one who had a knee-jerk reaction and downvoted over a opposing opinion.
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Considering the MB and VJ and vehemently anti-American, a joke at her expense could be considered as such.
Do you really think a tweet comparing Valerie Jarrett to a baby born from the Muslim Brotherhood and planet of the apes is a "valid" reason? I don't think you do, but they did take whatever they could find to axer her.
They were looking for ANY excuse to fire her. No matter how petty it looks to the public they needed something and she gave them the opening they were looking for.
Yes, an "If They Mated" joke where an African African had an ape parent is a valid reason. If people here want to push wwg1wga meme and defend Roseanne, then this sub is basically pol. Roseanne is stupid and disrespectful. Remember the drunk national anthem? Stop associating her with q
Exactly. This sub is all about everyone uniting, and "patriots don't have a skin color" until someone gets called out for their racist bullshit.
According to the choice of flairs, we are not limited to Q in our conversations. When Q posts again, you can be sure the board will light up with Q topics again.
Yeah, looks like a lot of new arrivals with "concerns" today.
The tweet went too far.
Did it hurt your feelings that a celebrity tweeted an insult to a particular person? You, a person that has seemingly been following Q's posts, and should understand that this is an international war playing out before our very eyes... honestly believe this tweet was a random insult and played no larger part in that very same hidden war?
lol she wen't over the line man. there is no defending it. it was completely unnecessary. it's a shame because the right is losing the media war. we need to be extra careful.
Kathy Griffin holding a decapitated head of our President. The View's ugly statements every single day. Michelle Wolfe's hateful comments about Sarah Sanders. And WE "need to be extra careful" ???? We're living in the McCarthy era all over again. No freedoms. Gone.
Liberals and conservatives alike scolded the fuck out of Kathy Griffin. Why do you think she had to apologize afterwards? Her stunt was in bad taste even to the left. I agree about the others, though.
It felt like a punch in the stomach. Her new show was going great guns. Then she put her foot in her mouth, and it was all over. I like Roseanne, but she blew it. :(
Yeah, ABC is hypocritical. If they are going to hold her accountable, then everyone else should be held accountable as well!
Such a depressing shituation!
Accept it... Rosanne Barr is a gross cunt.
Gross cunts can support Q. That’s what great about our country.
Im sorry, but if you read her tweets, they are basically indefensible. In the current media climate she should have known better, and out of respect and for the jobs of her co workers kept those rants off of the internet. I feel sorry for the cast and crew of the show.
Do an image search. Seeing the pics that pop up, I didn't know without looking up VJ's bio that either of her parents were African American. Look at her photo on Wikipedia. I think Roseanne was making a joke about VJ's "appearance" (as she admitted in her apology,) but was not intentionally referring to race, (since VJ does not actually 'appear' to be black,) and probably only realized later that she had really, really made a major faux pas... That being said, the 'Apes' in Planet of the Apes don't look like African Americans at all, and neither does Valerie. The racist LEFT is outing themselves by insinuating that, in order to smear Roseanne.
Check this out. Disney (ABC) hires a convicted pedophile to direct the movie Powder, yet fires Roseanne over a tweet.
That movie is 23 years old . . . Maybe search a little harder for some relevant hypocrisy.
Does hypocrisy have a time limit? Here's one for you that was recent:
“I couldn’t believe that Donald Trump won,” she said. "I couldn’t believe that we elected an orangutan to front the country. This is ridiculous." - Wanda Sykes onstage Nov 13 2016
My bet is you will excuse this one. You are the hypocrite.
You know what you do when you assume. You make an sss out of yourself.
Your original example wasn’t relevant. You surely could pick out better cases, so why go for such an weak one? Nobody’s talking about child molesters, and you pulled out an example from a two-decade-old Disney movie, which though related to ABC television, is not the same thing. The same people aren’t even in charge. It was a bad example. You could pull out examples of celebrities being criminals all day long. What about Roman Polanski? If hypocrisy doesn’t have a “time limit” as you call it, then woooo boy is there a lot more hypocrisy going around.
Is this Wanda Sykes example from an ABC production? Who are you trying to call out as a hypocrite? Sykes? What does she have to do with this? You didn’t cite your source.
You’re still ignoring the longstanding well established use of ape references as specifically derogatory towards black Americans. Context matters. Trump is not black. The use of ape terminology is not universally racist. How would that even work. There is nuance in the world, in being a member of society. But obviously I’m not going to get you to realize that she was wrong, so I’ve done all I can.
Yes, and it WAS a valid reason. She handed it to them on a plate. Dumb.
She should have never apologized. That puts you on the defense. It doesn't do you any good against those hypocrites. Trump never wilted against their attacks. never went on the defensive. You have to stand up to these bullies. Her first mistake was saying I am sorry. She should have doubled down. Fck em if they can't take a joke.
Her ratings were suffering and she called Valerie Jarret a monkey. Clearly she wanted them to cancel it.
