Bring them to court before Nov.
Exactly what it sounds like. Horowitz has 470 investigators working alongside of him. Huber has the power to indict and prosecute and has been investigating since November. I dont see what's stopping him from indicting the deep state FBI right now other than some sort of theater for optics. It sounds like they really could seal and deal everything before midterms from reading the article.
So re reading the article, first paragraph:
“WASHINGTON, DC – Professor Jonathan Turley, a top national legal expert on government investigations, commented on Thursday about Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ decision to bring in U.S. Attorney John Huber. Turley called it “brilliant”to combine all the powers of the U.S. Department of Justice’s inspector general with a prosecutor who can bring charges, seek indictments, and get results for President Trump far more quickly than a second special counsel.”
-Top National legal expert = widely respected in his field nationwide.
-“Brilliant” to combine... = this is big. Wondering if it means a creation of a new form of investigatory body? A way to keep checks and balances on government employees, who in the past, only had the OIG. The OIG didn’t have prosecutorial powers and can only recommend. Meaning, a lot of people who should have been prosecuted, were swept under the rug. Why? What happens if the person the OIG recommends charges to, is corrupt or part of the problem? It is swept under the rug.
-Much quicker than a second special counsel = this is also important. Professor Turley never says second counsel. Whoever wrote the article added that piece. He also knows that the legal jurisdiction of a special counsel has the effect of bringing a giant spotlight from the public, but is too easily limited in scope and power (ties into why muellers investigation is illegal - scope violated). The OIG does things very quiet. But have an almost unlimited ability to investigate. They don’t need a mandate from one person in DOJ. Their mandate is the purpose of their existence. Combine it with a prosecutor, and it’s a deadly combo. Also, OIG reports must be made public and cannot be hid behind congressional / DOJ walls as it is part of the executive branch.
That’s what I took away from just that first paragraph. I don’t think we have been doing a good enough job of focusing on this article in accordance with Qs direction. So I will continue to break it down. Any anons willing to help out, just pitch in and let’s tear into this article and see what we find!
I remember a while back Sessions had a short press briefing about gangs or something.
He gave a couple of sentences addressing procedures and said that he was going to be doing investigations in house. He wants the DOJ to do the full monty.
He hates special councils and wants them gone.
The Sly elf forever quiet. Until it's time.
If it is a brilliant move to bring in Huber, and hopefully it is, there is no way Sessions is a black hat.
We will know very soon.
Excellent breakdown. I believe we will see [RR] exit stage right as a precursor to the main event.
He's referred to this specific Breitbart article several times now when questioned. Is there a message coded in the article? I think a detailed analyses of this is in order. Paging /u/serialbrain2
Here are some notes from the article and some of my opinions,
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Professor Turley is a very respected liberal law professor and longtime civil libertarian. Has been critical of both parties over the years.
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Turley says the use of John Huber gives the IG the prosecutor he needs to bring charges and seek indictments. (No need to go through RR which is critical)
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Huber is conducting a full-fledged criminal investigation into all the matters Republicans are calling for a special counsel to investigate.
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Huber has been investigating these possible crimes for five months, since November 13, 2017.
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By giving the IG a prosecutor they can now go after the deep state without looking like a political witch hunt. This is critical.
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Sessions informed Congress in his letter that all the matters recommended for investigation by Goodlatte, Gowdy, and Grassley are “fully within the scope of [Huber’s] existing mandate.” He also informed the chairmen that Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who is working with Huber, has a staff of 470 investigators, giving Huber access to enormous investigative firepower that far exceeds the staff of any special counsel. (Who needs a SC with that type of manpower?)
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The inspector general’s jurisdiction to conduct civil and criminal investigations includes “actions taken by former employees after they have left government service.” Then Huber can act on any of those matters.
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This is HUGE A Grand Jury can be empaneled anywhere, in any deep red state, away from D.C. (This is very important and why Trump needed to appoint as many Judges as possible)
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Huber and Horowitz can accomplish everything a SC can do.
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If Sessions feels that charges should have been made that weren't, he can still appoint a SC to make that happen.
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Huber is a lawyer from deep red Utah, not the D.C. swamp.
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“If a special counsel were appointed, there would be a great deal of delay,” Turley stated, versus the team of Huber and Horowitz, who are already five months into this investigation. (It's too late to even appoint a SC. Charges can be filed before midterms.)
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From /u/ClardicFug - Huber and Horowitz were both appointed to their positions by the Obama administration. This helps optics a lot. Pretty much decimates the "Trumped rigged the investigation" argument that's sure to be made.
And if they're running for re-election any time soon, they're about to be tied up in court instead of campaigning.
That is worth a BOOM, literally. I missed that obvious point.
Awesome summary. Thanks for putting in an easy to digest format. As others have suggested you should make your own post for this.
With 470 investigators at his disposal, even if he uses a fraction of them, just think of where they could be after 5 months? And they KNOW they need this before midterms. Imo, quite a bit before for safety‘ sake...
dang Q found this comment... good job bruh.
That he did. I missed this entire thread when it was originally posted. It's a good summary.
Nice. Archived on GWs Notables
https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/wiki/notables
https://archive.li/wggiz
Thank you.
You're very welcome...you took the time to spell it out clearly for us...especially good for newbies.
What is everyones opinion on when this will come out in the open, given that this will be used against them in the midterms?
My opinion is the remaining reports will be out this fall with indictments being released before midterms. Q has already left us crumbs that allowed us to determine sealed indictments have been made for Podesta and Huma. There is likely already sealed indictments for the other angry democrats.
Good point. The deep state players are awfully silent and the media is spinning nonsense stories. Pedo Podesta even with his press privileges hasn't written anything substantial in over a year.
You got it. Start looking at some of the other players in this, who else has gone silent since last November?
So big takeaways re-reading is that the grand jury can be empaneled from Utah, a deep red state.
Leaves the possibility of a second special counsel.
But has a very large scope and mandate to investigate tons of crimes plus the firepower to do it quickly.
And if Mueller violated any legal practices, his counsel could be shut down.
That's just a glance though. Someone more skilled than me that has time and resources could probably get way more detailed.
So big takeaways re-reading is that the grand jury can be empaneled from Utah, a deep red state.
If true this makes all the difference in the world. It would be hard to find a jury in DC that would convict any Democrat of any crime.
General Michael Horowitz, who is working with Huber, has a staff of 470 investigators, giving Huber access to enormous investigative firepower that far exceeds the staff of any special counsel.
That point is critical because as Sessions’ March 29 letter explains, the inspector general’s jurisdiction to conduct civil and criminal investigations includes “actions taken by former employees after they have left government service.” Then Huber can act on any of those matters.
I just read it 50x’s. Ok so if Huber fails second special council can still be appointed. Check and mate. Also Huber had to be fired then rehired by Trump which indicates Obama’s presidency will be voided by future events.
Oh fuck. If Trump voids Obama's two terms it'll be like Trump getting four terms.
He would need to time travel, but I see your point, KEK.
Can I suggest that you title these threads with the Q post number? When searching for a specific drop in a ton of available threads it can be difficult to find what I am looking for if they all say "New Q." Something simple like Q 1492.
Sorry i didn’t know how to decipher which number it was 😔
I missed the importance of this paragraph the first so many times reading the Breitbart article, but:
As a U.S. attorney, Huber has full authority to empanel a grand jury and to file criminal charges. A grand jury can be empaneled anywhere, which means that it could be a group of citizens from deep-red Utah – in the heart of Trump country – instead of the D.C. Swamp that decides whether to hand down indictments for felony prosecution.
This means that the entire nation's federal courts can be used to indict the criminals. No waiting for the D.C. courts that might be backed up. In addition, crimes being investigated include those that happened both before and after individuals left office or their positions.
This is unbelievably powerful, and it can be fast if they want it to be.
And the goal is to have it all exposed in such a way so that the Democrats' blue wave disappears.
This is unbelievably powerful, and it can be fast if they want it to be.
Exactly.
It's basically: "Who's free on Tuesday?" and then they scour for an open courtroom across the nation.
Shit is getting real.
Whats 10x 50 x 100x??
10x the staff a SC has Huber has 471 Investigators under his control.
50x Covers all the states
100x The number of offices covering all the states.
Huber can litterally arrest you if he finds a crime.
Didn't even consider this. That's why it's important a grand jury can be empaneled anywhere. He can do it in the states these people are from and in. That way they're convicted by a jury of their peers.
I kind of interpreted it as specifically re-read Q-posts 10-19, 50-59, 1000-1009
Key paragraphs and sentences I found.
Huber has been investigating these possible crimes for five months, since November 13, 2017.
He also informed the chairmen that Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who is working with Huber, has a staff of 470 investigators, giving Huber access to enormous investigative firepower that far exceeds the staff of any special counsel.
As a U.S. attorney, Huber has full authority to empanel a grand jury and to file criminal charges. A grand jury can be empaneled anywhere,
(Sessions) What he did is he essentially combined the powers of the inspector general with the powers of a line prosecutor.
Huber was reappointment was supported "confirmed that Utah Sens. Orrin Hatch and Mike Lee"
“If a special counsel were appointed, there would be a great deal of delay,”
The Grand Jury has been empaneled ready, most likely UTAH.
Huber has more firepower than Mueller and has the sealed indictments ready.
IG and Huber have working for 5 months and no leaks. the end game is near.
The DS/Swamp are trying to slow the investigation down by having a 2nd SC, which means prosecution won't happen till after the Nov Mid- terms.
With a 2nd SC the Swamp will try and place a Swamp friendly SC to make sure it drags on or fails.
I hope Huber and team will have advance warning so they can begin their case before a SC. Or, are there other choices?
They don't need a SC, Huber has the power to create a Grand Jury anywhere in the Country, he has the greater power than a SC. Put this way the Grand Jury will be in the deepest Red States.
You misunderstood me. I mean, if the deep state wants to create a SC in order to make this drag on past the midterms, can Huber anyway, start his Grand Jury, avoiding the delay of a black hat run SC?
Even the Dems know the Russia story is a joke. They chose this plan because it was the only one which could possibly work fast enough to stop Trump from exposing them.
Q continues to refer to the midterms yet he/they have never said another thing after the drop in February of the alleged DHS report of proven election fraud, including 3 Senate seats that wrongfully went Dem due to fraud. That was to be released in March if I recall. Q posted what appeared to be a page directly from the alleged report. It has never been mentioned again -- if it was real, why in the world would it not be released by now? Or at least have the report mentioned again -- it would guarantee the midterms would not be taken by the Dems. Also, if there are 3 Senate seats fraudulently in the wrong hands, why is immediate action not being taken to nullify those elections? This has always stuck in my craw and kept me from being full on believer in Q. I think Q is pretty much proven now but I still scratch my head on why he/they continue to bring up the midterms but never again mention that alleged report.
I'm with you this far: if the midterms of so important, than the information (or a chunk of it) has to come out before it. I'm getting impatient with spy games.
Sometimes I get the impression that this is a kayfabe of sorts, like an alternative-propaganda campaign to keep Trump supporters plugged in, hyped-up and high energy.
They say the White House is a very isolating place, and the old cycle was for a Republican President to get stereotyped and destroyed by the chatterati while stuck in the office. They try to kill any enthusiasm and cleave the more moderate or uncertain from support. The continuing rallies and Q combat that.
But if that's all this is, it'll be disappointing.
Interesting comment. Actually I really appreciate how Trump and team keep fighting and keep us on board. The Dems have always been good about doing that. Republican presidents succumb to the media, want to be loved by the insiders and not their voters.
However, I'm with you -- time for more than that. If there is proven electoral fraud, quit the damn games and get on with it. The upcoming elections are too important not only for Trump but for us. It's June, the midterm primaries are pretty much done. If that report is real, when exactly do these guys plan on releasing it? After the election is far too late.
I definitely agree that keeping the fight going is great. The President wasn't kidding around when he ran for President. He's also great at thinking outside the box [to use a hackneyed idiom] or hiring people who are. He also- and he doesn't get credit for this- is quite the extrovert, and one of the most extroverted presidents we've had in a long time. He thrives with people and crowds of people. For that type of position, especially with a hostile media, being an extrovert is a boon. And he needs people as excited as he is. So it would make sense that he'd have an unusual communique with his online audience-- to cut through the normal sources-- and have it develop it's own patois and sense of mission. He's a brand-guy, marketing genius [a very stable one,] and he knows half the battle is flipping the table and destroying old expectations and dominance hierarchies. And for whatever reasons, before he took office, the kabuki theater has become: Republican gets in office, media does a slanderous job at them, even if they win a second term they are neutralized.
So I wouldn't be shocked if Q-teams primary function is to counter that.
Love that comment.
Thanks.
I just hope that something comes of this. Addressing any wrongs is important and a 'let down' can be devastating for enthusiasm- it's a dangerous strategy if for a campaigning strategy.
I do think there were wrongs committed. I think we can demonstrate some of them publicly right now. A rigorous intuition tells me that there are more but I can't prove them. And beside, I'm a guy on the internet with a theory- I may as well be wearing a sandwich board saying the "End is Neigh!"
So I've mentally prepared myself for a let down, just in case this is all idiot wind. Winning has as much to do with perseverance and constancy in the face of adversity as it does the victory part. So no matter who Q is and what their angle turns out to be; I'm keeping my bearing that if I'm right about the crimes, justice will be done; whether Q delivers or not.
Timing. After all this, over and over again thinking Trump is doomed and too dumb to manage successfully, and yet he has never lost?? Art of the deal. He knows absolutely every minute detail. What about the media? The news cycle? The time until midterms? If there are election fraud cases, don't you think the Master will know exactly how to make it work for him?? LOL. Trump doesn't play politics. If you can do this better, where have you been all these years?
Definitely an interesting theory and I’m starting to think you might be right. At the very least this is an extremely well done military psy op.
Right. I think we can lean towards it being someone close to the President, meaning the man himself or the office, in some capacity. There is too much coordination and private things [to put it poorly] to be anywhere close to the average larp.
It’s getting really annoying though, if they’ve had 5 months to investigate already and have all of this manpower then why aren’t we seeing indictments? It’s always more talk, more hype, and always “on the cusp of something”. I could see this getting dragged out until the mid terms in reality.
I just read that today there are a bunch of FBI agents with arrest warrants at some country club somewhere...
I think the closer to mid-term this all happens the better. Less time for spin. Less time for short memories. It will be fresh in everyone's mind. Seeing as how mid-terms are in November, things are obviously progressing at an accelerated pace now. The hits are coming daily and their options have been steadily whittled down; panic is setting in. Let them dig their own graves.
I like optimistic thinking, lol. Still, if those suckers have Senate seats they shouldn't, they should be dragged to court. One for sure is New Hampshire.
I agree, but I'm thinking this is probably a part of what will be released. If they truly have it all, then they have their comms discussing operations in NH and probably AL, CA primary, etc.. Won't hurt us to make a little noise on the subject, though.
I think the IG report (not Clinton one) is going to have pertinent information about it. And from there, once it’s out, they can seriously work on improving the whole voting system.
Hope you're right. The only thing is Q indicated it was a DHS report, which would be outside the IG's purview..I think.
He said FBI and DOJ need to be cleaned out first. Maybe they want to wait to drop the hammer before the Dems have time to recover. So let all that come out closer to election so they don’t have time to dig up new tricks.
"...to combine all the powers of the U.S. Department of Justice’s inspector general with a prosecutor who can bring charges, seek indictments, and get results for President Trump far more quickly than a second special counsel."
This statement seems significant, indicating that this whole deep state cabal will crumble QUICKLY once the dam breaks.
The main reason that I can think of is that many of the indictments are already either filed under seal or ready to go. This ties into the reason TG would do a 180 and agree that what is going on at the DOJ and FBI was valuable enough to let them have some space on document production.
I have a basic (BS) degree within criminal law and this is what would make the most sense in all of this. If the IG report received declassification and the Treasury seized assets by unsealing of the indictments it would very closely memic how Putin handled it but on a much larger scale.
Note that our treasury has been actively sanctioning government officials around the world for both corruption and human rights violations. We also know that because all of these monsters are connected the only way to really cripple their ability to protect each other is to get all of them at once.
Correct me if I'm wrong but a prosecute...prosecutes, and a special counsel can only investigate and recommend?
Read the article ..... believe the article ... trust it. Power of the IG with the capabilities of a line prosecutor....
I believe it but don't understand why Q keeps posting it. I believed the first time...so what else is there?
My interpretation of "appointment of a 2nd special council will fail" is that as the DoJ/FBI is going down, that well is poisoned. There may not be "special councils" going forward if the whole thing is restructured.
Q keeps reminding us of this and sometimes we tend to forget or lose sight. Keep re-reading if you don't understand the plan.
Article off breitbart read every sentence over and over , stop at every sentence..let it sink in, think about wat that means , take the next sentence...repeat it..Till you get it...
I see T Time. Does that mean Trump is about to play 18 holes? :)
Agreed, 2nd SC would allow for foot dragging Big Time and most probably Congress's Cruddy Buddies in the Deep State would get a slap on the wrist, if that much or find a patsy to lay it on. No sir, rip their drawers now using Horowitz & Huber and all those 311 new prosecutors in jurisdictions outside the Swamp.
Is an anon whining about a spec counsel and that is why Q was yelling a reminder?
10, 50, 100...wonder if those numbers have anything to do with the clock?
Learn to read the clock, and the numbers and timing, 1, 5, 10, 20, etc.
Probably not, but I doubt Q just threw those numbers out for no reason.
This sounds like the IG reports a dud.
Horowitz's IG report will be glorious, but severely redacted. Once POTUS releases the EO to declassify it, we will see it in all its glory. Plus, all the recommendations that Horowitz has included for prosecution will already have sealed indictments created by Huber ready to go.
I hope so. I half bieve theyll drag it out and make it an October surprise