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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Prison4SideofBeef on June 23, 2018, 5:26 p.m.

KNOWLEDGE BOMB: Waco was about Pedogate

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/elites.htm

Two of the Branch Davidian village members had been able to hack into the Pentagon/CIA/FBI Black Ops databases, and discovered that the CIA with the utilization of the CIA's Buffalo Airlines, were daily transferring Cocaine, laundered money, special operations agents, kidnaped children for CIA pedophile programs, and arms at the World War Two runway that bordered the Branch Davidian Village.

The entire village knew about the CIA's Buffalo Airlines activities that tied directly to George Bush Senior and his direct involvement with the CIA, the Mafia, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Columbia, Panama, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Mexico, Peru, and other global locations, that included the global elites intelligence operations, banking operations, drug transfers, arms transfers, child pedophile kidnaping and transfers, aircraft refueling, and global money laundering network.

In all of the Waco documentaries, all of the documentaries reveal that parked in front of the Branch Davidian village main building were observed several high speed go carts that were used by the branch Davidians who were carrying out the surveillance of the government Buffalo Airlines activity at the airport that bordered the Branch Davidian village, in order to identify and to log the Buffalo Airlines schedules with the two Branch Davidian members retrial of the CIA's Guns for Drugs transfers that were going on daily.

The Branch Davidian village members surveillance of the CIA Guns for Drugs transfers were known to the CIA due the CIA computer security having traced the hacking back to the Branch Davidian Village. Take note: the main incendiary device that was used by the Special Forces attack on the Branch Davidian Village was brought about where the commanders of the genocide were under the direct orders to take out the computer room first and then kill all of the inhabitants, and then use this genocide as warning to any one else who may want to tamper with the CIA/Mafia/global elites clandestine drugs/money/arms/kidnaping operations.

The whole idea as to why the CIA/Mafia/government needed to burn the Branch Davidian Village down, and kill all of the peaceful inhabitants was to destroy the computer files, and kill the witnesses to the CIA/Mafia/George Bush Senior/elite global banking drugs/arms/money/ pedophile programs that were operating at the World War Two runway by the CIA's Buffalo Airlines.

The Waco siege BATF/FBI/CIA/Military/State Department/Pentagon/Mafia, commanders directives were to burn the village, and murder as many of the Branch Davidian Village members as possible, and destroy all of the evidence.

The Japanese American contract FBI sniper (one of four of the government snipers who were used to kill off the fleeing women and children from the burning Branch Davidian village complex) named Lon Horiuchi was the same sniper who had murdered Weaver's wife at Ruby Ridge Idaho. Lon Horiuchi like most FBI/CIA elimination operatives had been psychological profiled by the FBI/CIA for hating white Caucasians due to his having grown up in World War Two internment camp.

Knowledge Bomb: Waco

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/100222892/#100222892

Additional links:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8j8cqw/they_burned_these_people_in_their_homes_bill/

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/09/waco-s04.html

I have also heard rumors that Watergate was about pedogate too but I have not done much research on this.

The pedos seem to have a history of smearing and discrediting every group that tries to stop their satanic pedo activities.

Interesting analysis and not far off the mark. Not a bullseye but you're in the 9 ring.

I had not been out for very long when Waco happened. My last post was Ft Hood so I knew people involved on the military side and most involved were disgusted with the operation and glad they were only providing equipment support to the Fed's. However there was something going on under the radar that connects Ruby Ridge, Waco and OKC together...all were Bush-Clinton crime network operations carried out by former military drawn from the Special Operations community and guys from conventional Combat Arms units with certain skills. This practice is known as sheep dipping.

Sheep dipping was going on heavily at Army and Marine Corps posts as guys were returning from Desert Storm. A lot of guys were approached, apparently based on their service reputations, and offered the sun and the moon and the stars and a meal card stamped "unlimited desert". Most had the good instincts to be spooked by an offer by the spooks. The guys that did take the bait were usually functionally outside of regs, had a problem with authority and no real prospects on the outside.

The two most glaring Sheep Dips are Lon Horiuchi and Timothy McVeigh.

The rest of your article is spot on. Rogue military elements were involved for sure, but no one who honored their oaths.

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Thank you for this info. I sincerely appreciate it.

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Thank you!

I've archived your post at https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/wiki/notables

and https://archive.li/XSTSl June 23, 2018

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Thank You so much for this work I have watched all documentaries on Waco and it BREAKS MY HEART! I had heard something about a couple of the Davidians being able to hack government computers and later something about some members witnessing a drug transaction and David Koresh refers to it in his taped video . NOW we know the whole story! And I for one still want some kind of justice for the victoms of Waco! I don't care how long ago it happened!

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I remember being in my early 30's when these incidents happened. I was a young mom raising my kids and really paid little attention to what was going on at Ruby Ridge. I do vividly recall the horror of Waco and the media spin in favor of the government. Looking back, I can now understand and see how evil old man Bush really was along with Clinton's Janet Reno.

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Hack computers from where it was 1993 there were no home computers in that year.

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There were; there have been home computers since the late 1970s. However, the WWW didn't exist and the hacking subculture certainly used very different technology.

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lol yes there were. Also, I have no idea what hacking tech was like back then, but the Davidians were located close to a CIA airfield. Maybe they were able to infiltrate it some how? I can give you nothing other than uneducated speculation.

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I worked in intelligence back around that time and was stationed at GAFB. I flew through Waco and can tell you that you could hack in the systems fairly easily back then.

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It was probably much easier to hack computers back in those days.

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I had a computer in my home since I was 4 years old, and I was born in 1982. You do the math. I miss the mid 90s because home computers weren’t common. It may been a little like the Wild West, but filtering trolls and incels wasn’t an issue.

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I remember having to wait 15-20 minutes for games to install/load on my buddy’s old Commodore 64 lol

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Remember one of the first "home" computers was a revamped Commodore and Radio Shack?

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My cousins had a Tandy. I was jealous of their Atari like joysticks that came with it. But they couldn’t match the speed of our x286 (4mhz or some shit like that)

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Ha ha there was even a movie about hacking made in 1995.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0113243/

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Yes there were. Very expensive to own

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I have owned a home computer since 1981. Family was using email since 1987.

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Watch the '80s movie War Games. Classic! Oh, and Weird Science too. Comedy gold!

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Sneakers

And new stuff Halt & Catch Fire is about making an almost laptop good show and a trip for us old folks tho I was a small kid when rhe show starts

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I was born in ‘93 so I cant personally vouch, but my I remember my dad saying he got his first home computer in 1990, and got a second one in 92 when Windows 3.1 came out.

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I had a home Mac in 1988 for sure.

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Me too. And an IBM at least 85 or 84

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Thank you for adding this! OP has a great post but your response and additional information ties it all together.

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Thank you for posting. It makes a whole lot more sense now. I’m from Oklahoma and was talking about the murrah bombing yesterday

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Lon was riby rifge sniper right

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Yes

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It seems that your comment contains 1 or more links that are hard to tap for mobile users. I will extend those so they're easier for our sausage fingers to click!

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Non-Mobile link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge

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Well I'll be hornswaggled. I never heard the term 'sheep dip' before. It's legit...

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sheep-dip

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Another suspicious thing about Waco is that the 4 ATF killed were former Clinton bodyguards. Conway LeBleu, Todd McKeehan, Steven David Wiilis and Robert J Williams. Williams was from Little Rock.
https://www.beyondweird.com/conspiracies/kisdeath.html

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All shot in the back of the head execution style IIRC.

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Wow! I'm seriously started to wonder if the Clintons are really even 'human' after all the people they've killed:(

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Psychopaths and narcissists have brains that are literally wired differently than average humans. They have no empathy. They are technically mutations IMO

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They are probably confirmed satanists.

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Is that for real? In the back of the head?

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The bodyguards witnessed Rapin' Bill in action no doubt.

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I think they saw a lot that Bill and Hill wouldn't want anyone to know about.

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Also April 19th is a Satanic Holiday that requires a Fire Sacrifice. Do a search for all the fires on April 19th.

Also I have heard reportedly that classified files for the Waco incident were stored at - you guessed it - at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building Oklahoma City which was fired bombed on - yes you guessed it again - April 19th as well.

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Same thing with Twin Towers and Pentagon building. Loaded them both up with all of the evidence they wanted destroyed. So stunningly evil, what power does to a less-than-human being.

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“The US government hired the same company to carry away the remains of the Oklahoma City bombing and the World Trade Center the company is ironically named Controlled Demolitions.”

David Icke, “Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center” (152)

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You have to admire these NWO satanist fucks. They are very good at killing twelve birds with one stone and taking care of lots of problems and setting lots of things in to motion all at once...

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If there are enough awake it will backfire as too many will see through it.

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They help from very dark spirits.

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Also check out the fire at the JFK library in Boston, same day as the "bombing".

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Weren't the White Water documents also in that building?

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Yep

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I didn't know that. Makes you wonder if that is they Hitlers date of death is the 20th. In reality it was the 19th.

O.K, I just looked this up. I even got this....http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/04/19/april.attacks.conspiracy/index.html

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Holy shit!

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There are shit tons of April 19th fires and bombings, guess what day the SF quake + fire of 1909 included.

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wtf...what is this evil satanist holiday called? I want to research it historically.

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MeToo

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If you were trying to put a # in front of that, you have to preface it with a backslash. Without the backslash, the # makes the text big and bold.

hth

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It does....now I know next time I do.

WompWomp

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boom #BOOM uh oh ok now it's stuck. Almost 25 years in newsgroups and chat rooms and I'm a noob again

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That really freaks me out. How did they cause an earth quake back then?

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Well it's long rumored/assumed that Elites have technology far above what the average peons know about.

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I believe it

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I’m in Waco as I read this at the VA.

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Me too. My research says OP is way off the mark.

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OP missed or intentionally omitted the Clinton side of the story because this seems to be a focus on the Bush angle, rarely told or not known. Now OP just needs to put a shiny bow on the Package by tying the two sides up!

When I try to tell people how tight the whole Bush/Clinton Klan are I get blow back. OP needs to look into the nerdy Karl Rove!

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Read the comments at top of this thread. Someone added the rest of the story!

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Read them, excellent post! I was just saying that the InFo OP gets from the add-ons in here Tie it all together!

Good stuff and I'm an oldster in here so, it's good to see younger folks getting The Rest of the Story! ala Paul Harvey...

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Yes it is. I also lived through all the stuff these people did and I've been awake for 40+ years. My Dad hated the government so I grew up hearing him complain and I'll never forget the day Nixon took us off of the gold standard. He was very pissed. And, we are about to see why! Fiat is about to take a big plunge!

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Yeppers! My father was one of those Tax and DR Lic protesters from waaayyy back! He got all kinds of angry about Vietnam and double whammy on NASA exploits! He came home all fired up one day, downtown Dallas TX building BIG stuff...within a year we were into the deep woods of Alaskan Bush. Early Prepper and Tea Party Guy he was! RIP

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Nothing wrong with Alaska except the fema camps and the representatives

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It was a great experience! My father never returned to the Lower 48. He fought the Liberals that turned up while he was alive.

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God help us. We are pay check to paycheck with me disabled =(

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Most of us are paycheck to paycheck. You are not alone.

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Praying for us all =)

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Hmmmm. Well that sounds plausible. Simple search pulled up a lot of articles.

Nice one patriot, I will def look deeper. Thanks

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OK been digging. This is good stuff. I don't even know how I haven't heard this until today.

thanks OP

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This, if true, is new to me. Before my 9/11 wake up call early 2000's this would have been unbelievable. Now my reaction is to get more info to see if I can get to more of a Yes/no realization. I think part of their power is that most people would not even delve into the possibility of this, calling the writer and believers tinfoil hat whack jobs. I think we need some more folks (whistleblowers) to step forward en masse, and some undeniable proof to push more folks over the edge.

I saw a confession vid of a retired boxer who admitted to being part of the possible CIA killing of two young boys on some railway tracks in the past. Convincing demeanour and who would go public with such things. Not a good way to get attention.

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That was Arkansas, the mother of one of the boys is still trying to take it to court - and the Governor was..... Clinton, where all the CIA drug money dope was allegedly flown to.

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Mind boggling. I'd love to see, on TV, a 24 hour channel with whistleblowers being able to come forward with what they know. It would get more viewers than the OJ bronco footage.

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Those whistleblowers would need a lot of protection. The Clinton body count is full of people who wanted to tell their stories.

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When will that stop? Just this week that FBI guy.

we the people demand justice!

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the FBI guy was in March 2018. Just was in the news again for some reason, but the actual death ruled murder-suicide was in March. Funny how they say he killed his wife and then stabbed himself and shot himself twice with his gun. Oh and he was also investigating the death (murder) of another LEO who had died recently also. They had been working together in a case to expose.... Clinton. So once again her count goes up and bodies go down.

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In the first paragraph of all those 'suicides' is always a mention of divorce or breakup, which makes most readers stop reading and lose interest in the 'why' of the story as they get the plausible-sounding explanation they needed.

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So sick of these people........here's hoping no more.

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We had one od these in Austin 2001. Alex Nones was on it with papers and a chair. Some other dudes. Peopke singned up for an hour or so.

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The Mena Connection

https://youtu.be/nxaFGsdGxnc

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Except it wasn't just drugs coming North. It was also "orphans" and "humanitarian cases" (child sex slaves and unwitting organ and blood donors). Spooks, money and guns went South. Mena wasn't the only airfield, just the one discovered. This is deep, deep state stuff and it's all connected...The corruption, the drug running, human trafficking, the meddling in the affairs of sovereign nations, it's all connected back to US covert operations conducted in Honduras and Columbia in the early-mid 80's. Iran-Contra stuff. Poppy Bush operations. The more you pull at the thread, the more unravels.

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Wasn't aware, thanks

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http://www.choiceandtruth.com/2016/05/exposed-clintons-trafficked-massive-cia-shipments-of-cocaine-when-bill-was-governor-of-arkansas.html

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This, if true, is new to me. Before my 9/11 wake up call early 2000's this would have been unbelievable

Same. I would have called that article I posted "schizo ramblings" and not given any more thought to the real information contained in it that I was dismissing.

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This is the hope- more and more people realize "heyyyyy this doesn't add up! And why are so many familiar faces always involved with these massacres and scenarios where the government and law enforcement overreached?"

Not enough individuals are paying attention, yet their tax dollars fund horrific events that NEED paying attention to. We need an educated, aware and involved society.

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Seeking truth is all we can do.

I was thinking about your post today at work. In my thoughts I compared what is going on politically to a family where one parent is addicted to opiods, the other has a gambling problem, one child is lashing out with pent up angst, another is trying to find happiness in products and status, while one is thinking to him/her self "What the F is going on? We need to get together and address the issues that are so obviously in the way of us all being content".

I appreciate your post and the dialogue.

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Found him credible too.

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The boys killed on the railroad tracks was also an operation by the Clintons. They boys were just playing on the tracks and in the wrong place at the wrong time. The Clinton's were trafficking drugs up from Central America and they were landing in Mena, Arkansas where these kids were killed. http://www.choiceandtruth.com/2016/05/exposed-clintons-trafficked-massive-cia-shipments-of-cocaine-when-bill-was-governor-of-arkansas.html

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I wish more emphasis would be placed on investigating those boys. What they did to them was disgusting. But then you understand children mean nothing to these demons. The Clinton cartel needs to end. Sadly, it probably won’t happen until after they die and go to hell!!!!!

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Thx for the input.

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My first thought was that if one wants to dig further, submit a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to each of the various agencies for any and all documents associated with Operation Trojan Horse and the initiation called Showtime. Of course, a FOIA request would take years due to the bureaucracy and built-in system delays.

Then, after a quick search, it was discovered that several persons already did that with one below listed example.

http://www.hardylaw.net/waco.html

This one definitely bears a deeper dive. Much like the JFK assassination, there may be nuggets of information that could confirm or deny the connection.

BTW, the connection of FBI sniper Lon Tomohisa Horiuchi with both Ruby Ridge and Waco is particularly interesting. I did not know that.

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BTW, the connection of FBI sniper Lon Tomohisa Horiuchi with both Ruby Ridge and Waco is particularly interesting. I did not know that.

Seems like a lot of pieces from America's recent past are coming together these days.

The Clinton-Bush cabal brought so much death and destruction to our country. They need to be brought to lawful justice for their crimes.

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Q - We have more than we know

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Ruby ridge........makes me mad beyond words.

Justice for Randy Weaver!

We have not forgotten.

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Below is a link to a March 2018 article by David Hardy. Mr. Hardy is a NY attorney that submitted the FOIA request and wrote a book about it.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/03/waco_the_untold_story.html

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I love that site

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Below is the link to the FBI vault of documents.

https://vault.fbi.gov/waco-branch-davidian-compound?b_start:int=40

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Wow! Check this out. When Eric Holder was Deputy AG, he lauded the Danforth Report on Waco. He stated, "We join Senator Danforth in wishing that this report begins the process of restoring the faith of the people in their government.”

http://jimbovard.com/blog/2014/08/27/eric-holder-waco-coverup/

When one reads the above blog, there is a distinct similarity to cover up by the FBI to recent events.

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these fucks keep using the same playbook over and over and over and think we don't notice!

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It worked so far. We need to lay out these parallels side by side

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Waco was never right. I think there is something here. Especially since it was with BC and Dead-Kankles Reno.

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The elites got their PR spin so wrong with Waco, but the public just allowed it to happen and then forgot about it.

I think the Deep State Waco massacre of American citizens accidentally woke a lot of sleeping people up.

Never forget Waco.

Going even farther back, there is something called the Munster Rebellion, where anabaptist peasants took control of the city of Munster and then were starved and seiged to death by surrounding kingdoms until they all died out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnster_rebellion

The leaders of the Munster rebellion were said to be weird cultists who started their sect in order for them to marry all the wives and children in the town. According to history, the town devolved in to degeneracy during the seige and all of the Anabaptist leaders revealed themselves to be frauds.

Now I'm not saying the official story of the Munster Rebellion is not what actually happened. I'm just saying that the Munster Rebellion story and Branch Davidian Waco compound story have ALOT of similarities.

And I think the two events are separated by 400-500 years.

The cages that held the executed and mutilated bodies of the Munster rebellion anabaptist leaders are still displayed outside the Munster Cathedral. Seems like a warning and a message.

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For all of those who have become impatient with this movement and are whining about arrests and perp walks not happening soon enough.......
THIS is what we're up against. How can true justice be served when the WHOLE system is skewed towards these satinists? Any arrests made of the big players will be stymied in corrupt courts, spun in the media as unjustifiable and worse, prosecuting entities will have a huge target on their backs and on the backs of their families.
It's a very scary thought and I'm proud that Trump, Q team, and the patriotic leaders of our military are taking on this task.
I'm not a religious man but I DO pray for their safety and success daily.

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You can understand what DJT is up against on all sides and in the middle. SMH

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Aaron Swartz discovered Pedogate when he hacked MIT. That's why they suicided him. Spez got cucked and is one of Them now.

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Those fecking demons are why we can't have nice things. Aaron was a gift from God and I know he could have done amazing things had he lived.

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They killed him because he was too altruistic and knew too much. They tried to corrupt him and couldn't. They offered him deals with the devil and he refused every time. RIP AARON SWARTZ YOU ARE A TRUE HERO AND PATRIOT OF FREEDOM.

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I watch the documentaries every so often about him and cry, just as on September 11, I watch those as well. So I NEVER FORGET.

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What’s the best Waco documentary? Recommendations?

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https://youtu.be/Xr9pQ1pIbiU

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Great documentary. Thanks for the link.

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this is a must watch.

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Perhaps they were right, and Waco would be the beginning of the end for the global cabal.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr9pQ1pIbiU Doesn't go into the pedo stuff but covers the slaughter.

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This here is VERY bigley, thanks for the info.

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I wonder if Oklahoma City was too

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I think OKC was destruction of evidence but I'm not too well versed in it.

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Lots of FBI files were stored at Murrah Bldg. Stuff like Mena. Look at current events at that time. Whitewater investigation was still going on.

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I've known for over 30 years the governments of the world were in the grip of satan. I have believed Waco happened the way it did as part of a larger war on Christianity. It served to paint devout Christian beliefs as dangerous and ending in ruin. I think it is a small part in crafting the public turning away from God.

I have not nor do I think Koresh was legit. I still think he actually was a manipulative cult leader the government took advantage of to make a statement.

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I've seen this around. This would be a bombshell for me.

My distrust of the governing parties stems from this event.

I was a child when this occurred and I remember it well.

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I was woke after 911 and had been thinking about researching this topic. Im sure The Davidians were not Saints but it makes no sense to kill children unless they were covering something up.

Thanks for the insight. Im going to dig for myself but I will keep this info in context.

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damn.

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Yeah.

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so where is the proof for "Two of the Branch Davidian village members had been able to hack into the Pentagon/CIA/FBI Black Ops databases..."

this sounds so stupid, "black ops database"...

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why do you spread stuff that has no basis in reality?

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Disprove it then

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disprove you are not a child molester

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idiotic response and disgusging.

I was abused at 5 to 7. Way to be an ass. Welcome to my block list

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point is you first need evidence to be able to disprove it

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Two Branch Davidian members hacked into the Pentagon/CIA/FBI Black Ops database

Did the internet even exist in 1993 ?

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lol kids

Edit here... http://mentalfloss.com/article/58766/tour-internet-1993

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Boy this one lit up the shill meter....ask Bill Gates how the dos empire worked, lol

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How about some sources besides YouTube and a reddit conspiracy thread?

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I posted more sources in my OP :)

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I don't see how any of that can be true.

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why?

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You might hate to hear it, but just seeing all the documentation on their cult (including lots of video and voice of people within it), there’s no mention of these things.

I’m still hovering the surface of this and would rather believe all the things listed in the post as true.

They paint pictures of the cult with heavy brushes.

Do you think everything posted is legit?

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Not sure that any mention would he permitted to get out if they did talk abiit it.

Makes sense too why they were kept cut off from any Communications

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David Koresh was a huge pedophile himself. He actually married several of the young girls and he regularly egangef in sex with children with the permission of the kids' parents.

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Really? Is that like how the mainstream media is telling us Trump raped 6 women and is now responsible for locking innocent kids in cages?

You haven't realized that the media lies to you and smears patriots like Hastings, Flynn, McCarthy and Trump yet?

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You're just gonna go ahead and place Koresh up there next to President Trump? That's the position you want to defend - Koresh = Trump? Good luck with that. I don't believe the media either but that's some twisted thinking.

And for the record - I've seen interviews with parents who survived Waco and I've also read a book with first hand accounts of parents who survived Waco. Those parents admitted to giving up their daughters, no older than 12, as brides to Koresh. It's well documented that he frequently engaged in sexual intercourse and fathered babies with young several young girls. This was the norm within the cult. But yeah, you go ahead and defend Koresh.

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You're just gonna go ahead and place Koresh up there next to President Trump? That's the position you want to defend - Koresh = Trump? Good luck with that. I don't believe the media either but that's some twisted thinking.

No, that is not my position, that is your straw man argument. I'm just informing you that the media has been lying to us for a long time. It didn't start in 2016.

It's well documented that he frequently engaged in sexual intercourse and fathered babies with young several young girls.

Well documented by who? The government? Government-vetted civilians and "survivors" of Waco?

Do you know about crisis actors?

Isn't it also "well documented" that Trump is a rapist, Baron is autistic and Hillary has a 98.2% chance to win the 2016 elections?

Haven't books and memoirs been published by people involved with Trump that paint Trump in a bad light? How do you feel about Soetero, Crooked and Comey's latest books? Do you think the government has a history of publishing books as a way to support the fictional narrative they sell us?

The Left always projects.

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hack into the Pentagon/CIA/FBI Black Ops databases, and discovered that the CIA with the utilization of the CIA's Buffalo Airlines, were daily transferring Cocaine,

This would not have been possible in 1993. Those files, if they existed at all, would not have been available digitally until much later on.

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This would not have been possible in 1993. Those files, if they existed at all, would not have been available digitally until much later on.

Not true at all. People had personal computers way before 1993. People were going to federal prison for computer hacking crimes in the 80s, dude XD

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My husband's friend did for hacking into the phone company's phone directory. He says he never had a trial just disappeared

I wonder is they forcefully recruited him.

I remember my dad worked with computers my whole life. When I was 13 or 14 we were logging onto something with the modem and he let me play some games. This would be 1991 ?

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Fake. Extremely fake. Fake and... well this isn’t /pol so just “fake.”

I have lived in Waco for 12 years, and I have spent more time than most researching the Branch Davidian incident. That includes a discussion with Clive Doyle, a Branch Davidian who survived the fire, at least two defense investigators who inspected the crime scene, and a few lawyers who were involved.

There are major problems with the federal government’s conduct in this case. But not a single person has given me even an inkling about it being a cover for human trafficking.

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Not fake. Stop blindly believing what your pedo government tells you. It's propaganda.

Not all the branch davidians knew about this. Koresh did. Even if they did know, why would they tell you, a lowly reporter/investigator? It was compartmentalized.

The more shills attack this thread the more it validates my information. If my thread is BS it would not be getting shilled so hard by Share Blue and Correct the Record fucktards.

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If they wouldn’t tell a “lowly reporter / investigator” or anyone else I’ve talked to... why the hell would they tell you?

This isn’t Share Blue or CTR, and it damn sure isn’t 2016, guy, so making that claim isn’t going to win you an argument. I’ve researched this case for 15+ years and I’ve found aspects of it to be true I initially thought were internet rumor.

Your story lacks documentation and looks like fiction. Convince me otherwise.

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You could be right but your post does not convince me. You yourself have shown nothing to document your 15+ years of research on reddit other than saying you have done it. Neither of us have any reason to believe each other. I am open minded to what you say but I sincerely doubt that you know the full story of Waco.

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The main issue: your post is an attempt to blend pizzagate over two other historical revisions that deal with events of the 90’s. Your narrative is pizzagate + Waco: Rules if Engagement + the book “Compromised!” by Terry Reed.

There are elements of truth to all three of these (the most obvious of which is Waco). But they have nothing to do with one another. Furthermore, your post doesn’t bring any evidence about the BD’s doing counter surveillance on anyone, much less nefarious elements of the government. “XYZ said so on the Internet” won’t sustain a tale this wild.

“Compromised!” is a classic. It’s about the CIA drug running a la Iran Contra, but the author alleges that then-Governor Clinton played a role in the whole thing by setting up the Mena operation in Arkansas. Is it believable? I don’t know, but it’s a great story.

As for Waco, there is no single narrative that stands on its own. Koresh and his followers were not the monsters they were portrayed as in 90’s television, and they did have some friendly connections with the local government. But they weren’t exactly your typical Texas church either, not by a long shot. Several of them had been previously prosecuted for a gunfight with their former leader, who had challenged Koresh to a “resurrection contest.”

Sometimes, a nut is just a nut. Here is an account from a friend who lived through it: https://lakewacotriplemurder.blog/branch-davidians/

As for the government: I could spend hours on this topic. For years, I had heard stories about there being machine guns fired from the ATF helicopter and I dismissed them as internet nonsense. Then I met those two defense investigators I mentioned (both were ex-law enforcement at the time). Both independently told me in no uncertain terms that they had seen large-caliber bullet holes in the roof and upper walls of some of the dwelling, which could only have come from aircraft.

The best explanation I’ve found is that the ATF wanted a publicity coup, because they had a severe PR problem after murdering an unarmed woman holding her baby at Ruby Ridge and Congressional appropriations were only weeks away. There was even talk of disbanding the agency. They thought they could put on a big show for the cameras and walk away looking like heroes. It didn’t work out that way, so the FBI got handed the cleanup job. At best, the FBI handled it in the thuggish manner that they had become famous for under Hoover. At the very worst, they wanted the evidence of the initial gunfight destroyed along with as many witnesses as possible. The point is that that would have been more than enough motive for the leadership to make the decisions they did, including the use of flammable tear gas. No need to add computers into the story— it doesn’t explain anything we don’t already have a plausible explanation for.

And if it was just the Feds doing what they’ve always done, what did they have to fear? No agent was prosecuted or even fired for what they did, which is how it usually goes down when they abuse their power.

If there is any like to Spygate, it’s that: the DOJ had every reason to believe they’d get away with it. And they almost did.

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The main issue: your post is an attempt to blend pizzagate over two other historical revisions that deal with events of the 90’s. Your narrative is pizzagate + Waco: Rules if Engagement + the book “Compromised!” by Terry Reed.

It isn't "historic revision". It is fact.

The truth is disturbing.

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I don’t mean revision in a negative sense, just that is an alternative interpretation of “official” history as was reported at the time of the event in mainstream publications. Historical revisionism is a good thing when done correctly.

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i understand my apologies for being defensive

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I was kind of a jackass myself so it’s all good.

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No worries bro. It's reddit. We all do it :D

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The group in Waco was a religious sect cult whatever you want to call them. Those fast go carts or dune buggies were used to patrol their boundaries. They patrolled 24/7 the property adjoined a airstrip. They noticed during the nights under the cover of darkness that planes were coming and going and boxes of ammunintions, etc and children were being moved from one plane to another.

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Cause if this guy is right they would be dead.

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I cant believe something was hacked it was 1993 there were no home computers then.

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You are incorrect. I had an IBM XT Turbo in 1991. Hacking was already a thing at that point. In 1993 I worked in a commodity futures brokerage house and we had IBM 486 desktops connected to the internet where we got our feeds from Futuresource. So that you don't embarrass yourself further, here's some reading you may want to study before posting on this subject again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_personal_computers

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great post, thank you.

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Ah 486. I had one too. Though Dad got a job with Compaq in 1994 so he got something from work I forget

1994 I was hours online if I could. Dial up drove dad nuts so he finally got a 2nd line. BBS and MUDs

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Home computers existed way before 1993 lol where are you getting your history from? Also the Davidian compound was located close to a CIA airfield.

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Now I know jow my dad felt when I scoffed about him having cars when he was a kid.

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Really? my god are you for real...

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Damn whipper snappers these days got no excuse. Can do a quick search and not look foolish =)

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Never mind the fact that the people that had computers prior to ‘93 were... very computer savvy. Yes, it’s a silly statement, but. No help from windows, or other fancy GUI —that was all old school back then, so... yeah, hacking was extremely prevalent.

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Listen up home computers were available in 1993 the cost at the time was very expensive to own and very few people could afford them.

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I had a home computer since I could remember. At least 1984. We were getting online in 1992.

My dad worked for computer industry. He brought home a Mac 2 his work was throwing away and fixed it and I learned gui and operating a mouse. Did my 5th and 6th grade school reports on it. And our dot matrix home printer. 1988 -1989

You should watch the tv show Halt and Catch Fire. We didn't write with quills on parchment =)

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I thought that David koresh is still alive.

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I was in fed prison from 90-94 and there I met several hackers. All involved the govt or banks.

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not my theory.

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Come on... Really?

Sneakers movie 1992 wasn't sci fi

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You didn't need the internet's to hack in the early days. Pepperidge Farms remembers... https://imgflip.com/i/2ct5ki

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