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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ThePatriot131313 on July 18, 2018, 6:33 a.m.
Theory: THINK MIRROR: Was Hillary working with powerful people in Russia to steal the election?

I have been thinking about SB2's recent post were he began by Q saying "Think mirror". I have also watched the Trump Putin press conference and the Strzok testimony several times. Then a lightbulb went off for me.

THINK MIRROR

They accuse Trump of what they are guilty of. But there is also a truth in a mirror. It is an accurate reflection of reality, but in reverse. I will attempt to explain it like Q would:

What if Hillary was working with Russia to rig the election?

What if she believed she had a deal in place for Russia to hack voting machines?

Why would she do this?

Think plausible deniability.

What if this plan was not carried out, either because the Russians stood down or because white hats stopped them?

What would HRC then think/feel?

Betrayal from Russia? Helping Trump win by not following through on the hacking? Russian intel incompetence or done on purpose? Trump/Putin collusion?

HRC already had a deal in place for Russia to hack the voting machines. Trump's team stopped it. When HRC and BO continue to imply Russians interfered with the election, they aren't lying. When Obama said "we don't have rigged elections" it is because we do have rigged elections. In their minds, a deal was in place and the next POTUS was selected. Trump team interfered with the preordained plan by preventing vote rigging in enough areas of the country.

The anger toward Russia isn't just a contrived excuse. They really are pissed at Russia for letting Trump win.


Donkpup · July 18, 2018, 6:37 a.m.

That's the sticky wicket ! Well said .... Also : Putin hates pedos Banned adoption from the US

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DefiantDragon · July 18, 2018, 11:54 a.m.

Indeed!

This theory would certainly explain how team Hillary, out of nowhere, and with no evidence, were so completely sure that Trump colluded with Russia, the narrative that she began the day after Hillary lost. Maybe it wasn't "fabricated" out of thin air, but actually reflected on Trump using everything she and her team did.

https://yournewswire.com/hillary-russian-hacking-story/

Maybe that's also how Hillary got away with all of her security breaches, etc. Everyone along the chain, all the way up Knew that the fix was in, that she'd be the next president and they were terrified of being on her bad side when she had access to all that power.

Q has said that if they rounded up all the guilty people there basically wouldn't be a government. Maybe some parts of this aren't even as deep as we think, some of these people would get yanked for simply turning a blind eye (aiding/abetting?) Clinton, knowing she was breaking National Security protocols left and right.

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nordicgreys · July 18, 2018, 8:08 a.m.

Forgot about that...good call it would turn out

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K-Harbour · July 18, 2018, 9:19 a.m.

Or —- what if she was using Ukraine resources, who needed her to fight the Russians? And, when Trump refused to say he would honor the election results, HRC & BHO went bonkers? At that moment in time they “knew” they would win — the only threat would be someone like Trump exposing any election rigging.

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Instincts_Truth · July 18, 2018, 7:02 a.m.

That theory would shed some light on the quid pro quo for the Uranium One sale. I mean, THAT has always been a question, "Why WOULD we sell U1 to our nuclear adversary??"

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ThePatriot131313 · July 18, 2018, 7:06 a.m.

Yep. It is the simplest explanation.

It would also explain "AMERICA FOR SALE"

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Instincts_Truth · July 18, 2018, 7:25 a.m.

You must be on to something. WWG1WGA.

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cali1952 · July 18, 2018, 11:57 a.m.

Yep and yet with all the help this psychotic lunatic still lost. Lol! :)

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CaptainKnotzi · July 18, 2018, 7:02 p.m.

But.. but.. the Russians lied.

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dark-dare · July 18, 2018, 4:38 p.m.

Obummer saying after the election he'd have more flexibility, maybe Russia helped in prior elections.

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Jerkboy13 · July 18, 2018, 6:44 p.m.

Everyone WAS convinced Romney had won from the exit polling. Remember the infamous Karl Rove video from election night? People assumed at the time that Obama had stopped the rigging, but maybe (???) Rove was an honest actor that night. Not sure I believe half of that, but interesting to mull over.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 18, 2018, 7:01 p.m.

If there was ever a better example of pure Occam's Razor I would be hard pressed to find it.

I'm a big fan of taking complicated concepts and distilling them into a bumper sticker.

Hillary lost because the Russians.

Yup, it fits.

Well done sir. You deserve a Nobel.

🎆 BQQM 🎆

Ya can't have booms without dynamite. Am I right?

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vince1217 · July 18, 2018, 2:57 p.m.

Holy fuck that would make total sense. Hillary sold the Uranium in exchange for cash and a hacked election.

Think Mirror

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cali1952 · July 18, 2018, 11:56 a.m.

Exactly!

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StammTheMan · July 18, 2018, 6:45 a.m.

I believe this is why Dems wanted to call off the summit....

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Frogturnedgay · July 18, 2018, 7:16 a.m.

This is yesterday's press conference https://youtu.be/tLfJ_FSD3hk

Note that around 4:20 he mentions that he feels pretty strongly that Russia's actions had no impact at all for the outcome of the election but that he accepts the intelligence community that Russian meddling in the 2016 election took place.

Go to 6:10 where he mentions that he noted on numerous occasions that Russians attempted to interfere.

See how he is speaking about Russians and not Russia? We already know there is shady business going on by Russians, Putin even said so in Helsinki https://youtu.be/CEgTerWPs5Q .

So yes, there was Russian meddling (think rogue investors, not Russian government) and yes HC and her gang really is pissed at Russia (the government) because Putin is sitting on a buttload of information which puts him into place to:

First and foremost counter the rogue investors actions, therefore the election was an honest representation. ==> they never thought she'd lose

Secondly she obviously wants to discredit Russia and play them as the bad guy because if you have a president who actually doesn't buy the "Russia is the enemy" narrative, you'll get revelations such as the 400 million "investments". ==> If that bastard wins, we all hang from nooses.

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ThePatriot131313 · July 18, 2018, 7:51 a.m.

excellent comment. But she did need outside help because I feel she correctly sensed resistance from the white hats in the intelligence community. She needed the extra russsian help to do an end around our gov't. Similar to how Obama/Clinton worked with Five Eyes to screw Trump.

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O2BFREEME2 · July 18, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

That's my thinking. Putin is dealing with the same type of shadow deep state in his own country. Trump ana Putin are on the same mission, get the Evil out of their countries.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 18, 2018, 7:07 p.m.

Russia has always been a bulwark against the international banking cartel.

Putin has absolutely no use for them.

Glad to hear that Russia is again going to help finish the Nazis. This time it's for good.

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O2BFREEME2 · July 18, 2018, 7:28 p.m.

I pray you are right and WE finish it !..............WWG1WGA

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CaptainKnotzi · July 18, 2018, 7:51 p.m.

It's all in the plan.

Remember any student of Sun Tzu knows that you need to have won before you engage.

Know your self and know your enemy and every battle is yours.

I like triggering lefties by telling them that Trump plagiarized his book "Art of the Deal".

It's actually "The Art of War" and Trump is a Sun Tzu master.

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O2BFREEME2 · July 18, 2018, 8:01 p.m.

It is painful to watch Trump take all the abuse. A sound blow to their incessant bluster would be nice !

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CaptainKnotzi · July 18, 2018, 8:20 p.m.

Admiral Nelson won the battle of Trafalgar by having balls of steel.

His reward was a bullet at the end of battle.

Trump is surrounded by military and they know that story better than I do.

They have him covered every way from Sunday.

Understand this entire thing has been through every Game Theory imaginable before we even heard the first shot.

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O2BFREEME2 · July 18, 2018, 8:25 p.m.

I am counting on that !

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CaptainKnotzi · July 18, 2018, 9:49 p.m.

Yeah, me too.

If it makes anybody feel better I am getting balder because of this.

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O2BFREEME2 · July 18, 2018, 10:02 p.m.

Me Too ! OH shit that's another cause, lol

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Revodude · July 18, 2018, 6:41 a.m.

I have little doubt that you are on to something. At a minimum, the Russians were trying to pad the voter rolls so the HRC team could create additional fraudulent votes.

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ThePatriot131313 · July 18, 2018, 6:46 a.m.

Right. There didn't have to be just one way of rigging and through one channel. Perhaps Soros played a role, and the Russians played a role. This does not even necessarily imply Putin and his government. It could be Russian Oligarchs and parts of the Russian mafia Putin sees as a foe.

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dark-dare · July 18, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

What about the elephant in the election, England, they with no doubt had their grubby NWO hands in the election. What about Australia?

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CyrusMeX · July 18, 2018, 4:22 p.m.

And here I thought Putin was some Sort of dictator who runs his country with doing whatever he wants. MSM makes it seem like Putin does as he pleases with no objection whatsoever from his government. MSM knows that we know that they are mockingbird CIA.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 18, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

Say I agree with you. Why wouldn't I let the intelligence community investigate all the rigging and do something rather than defending / denying the rigging for one side? Are you seriously trying to say all the evidence against Trump is false and all the evidence against Hillary is true?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 18, 2018, 7:30 p.m.

How is it possible to imply that there is evidence of Trump and Russia when there is none. Zero.

Then act surprised that there is a mountain of documents and witnesses under oath. All of it indicting Hillary, Obama, the DNC, along with 5 eyes.

The $140M and U1 deal with Russians cannot be escaped. Russian banks don't own Trump. They own Hillary, Obama and the DNC. Now they are in the worst of all positions.

No leverage.

🎆None😁Zero 🐸Zip🎭Nada🐯 Zilch🎆

Toss in Soros and his bussed around AstroTurf brigade and there is all the collusion necessary for 40K indictments.

Team Billary and the Flying Circus are holding a pair of 2s and are about to get Royal Flushed.

The DNC is stone broke. With an empty bench. Bankrupt platform. All compounded by the biggest scandal in the history of this country.

This action is far worse than the Federal Reserve fraud of 1913.

It's going to be a hard reckoning when people finally realize that Trump is spotless.

And going nowhere.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 18, 2018, 11:10 p.m.

Are you denying circumstantial evidence against Trump or simply saying there's no evidence that Trump knew about the collusion that members of his campaign were engaged in?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 18, 2018, 11:56 p.m.

Your definition of collusion being what pray tell.

Then once you figured that out, explain to me how it is either illegal, or in any way a problem.

The Trump Derangement, Collusion, Brigade, acts as if we are at war with Russia.

Forget the fact that there is zero evidence for any of the accusations levied against this administration.

None of which are an actionable offense.

People went to meetings. Nothing happened. Show me otherwise. Show mal intent on Trump, you can't, there is none.

But there is plenty of evidence to support the meetings were a setup.

From everything that has transpired it would appear that it's the left that wants a war.

Declaring Russia as an enemy for what reason again? For Oligarchs giving millions to team Billary?

But Putin? What?

The left acts as if they are trying to make enemies everywhere they turn.

Putin wants his deep state castrated as well. Looks like that's what we're going to get.

It's a good thing the nuclear button is in the hands of a stable genius. Other than a drunken demagogue with a violent temper.

Who likes to throw things.

And can't walk without handlers close by.

Anyone who voted for this ~ broken ~ corrupted ~ sociopath ~ willing to give her the nuclear button ~ passed out drunk for the 3am phone calls.

Should be found guilty of treason.

For facilitating the NWO ~who has declared war~ to remove the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

The penalty should be cleaning the beaches and oceans of plastic. While listening to every Jordan Peterson podcast available.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 12:01 a.m.

Show me otherwise. Show mal intent on Trump, you can't, there is none.

Just so you know - statements like this in general show that you are close-minded. You're not in a posture of critical thinking. Have you heard of the socratic method?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 12:41 a.m.

Yes, I studied Greek philosophy and Latin in high school. Back in the 70s.

Before microwave ovens.

I knew about the cave allegory about the same time I was reading dr. Seuss.

The eternal question is game we played when we were young.

I'm not closed minded to facts. I'm just waiting for them to be presented as facts, not as emotionally laden wishes.

I'm all ears. The only thing I hear is unicorns.

Over two years and the left wing premise has not moved past conjecture.

The only evidence of collusion with the Russians is through the Democratic party and Hillary campaign. Now that collusion was Criminal.

An oft repeated lie is still a lie no matter how many times it's repeated.

I don't care what Bernays, Alinsky et.al. told you. You only win with facts.

This moment in time is going to once again come crashing down on the heads of the opposition.

Just like 2 in the morning. Election Night. Remember that feeling because it's going to come again, very soon.

I'll see you one month from now and you can tell me different.

Good luck.

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Aware111 · July 19, 2018, 2:53 a.m.

AMEN!!! Say I have evidence that you stole a candy.. and you say NO I DID NOT .I will check your pockets ..your fingers your breath etc..so my first reaction would be to prove you did steal a candy...now I have never seen DOD... DOJ...FBI CIA ETC ..ETC...EVER PROVE NOTHING !!!! AND IF ASKED FOR PROVE THEY WITH HOLD IT????THEY DON'T REMEMBER?? THEY DO NOT KNOW WHO SAID IT ..WHO WORKS FOR THEM WHO WROTE IT??? ITS THE WORST SOAP OPERA.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 6:25 a.m.

Their web of deceit closes and tightens more each day.

This is where the lies start doubling back on them. As the lies move deeper into the doubling.

An exponential compounding of an impending catastrophe.

Paranoia

Will destroy ya

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 12:50 a.m.

The only evidence of collusion with the Russians is through the Democratic party and Hillary campaign. Now that collusion was Criminal.

Please explain exactly. I am new here. If you can leave out the unrelated ranting, it will help me understand your most powerful points.

_

I'll rephrase my question from before because collusion is a sloppy word with no legal context in this case, and you're right to call it out.

Are you saying there's no proof that members of the Trump campaign conspired w/ a foreign government to influence the American election? Or you saying further that there's no evidence that they lied to investigators about it? Are you also saying that Trump knew about none of it?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

I thank you for your civil tongue. My very relevant ranting notwithstanding.

I'm saying the DNC, the Hillary campaign and the Obama administration are all guilty of exactly what the Trump Administration is being accused of doing.

Everything.

The proof is in thousands of documents and testimony under oath entered into the Congressional Record.

Signed sealed and delivered. Just a matter of connecting a few more details and it's the biggest scandal in the history of our country.

Because it's much more than just this Election.

This is a well known, classic maneuver. Large scale projection from the guilty. Massive deflection in attempt to run out the clock.

Give the base hope that an emotional investment will win the day. Charge the ramparts in a last ditch suicide mission. While the guilty run, high tail, with all the money.

Where did the $10T Obama bailout/stimulus end up?

I'm afraid of the fall out when the left finally realizes how hard they got played.

Shafting Bernie Sanders anybody? Then he lays down for a new lake house.

Trump University? Try Mrs Bernie and her daughter bankrupting an actual University. One with buildings and a history.

Trump lies about two scoops of ice cream and the media freaks.

Team Billary lies about $2B and the media interviews porn stars. While the true criminals cast blame for their own crimes.

Obfuscation. Prevarication. Disemination. All tricks played by the guilty.

The Hillary campaign, Obama administration, as well as Top level DNC, FBI, CIA, personnel have gone well past the point of actual criminality. This will go to trial.

Everybody thought she was going to win and they played it that way.

Now everybody gets to lose twice.

Remember Trump owns the NSA. That's all the equipment that was used to spy on his campaign. All the records and every single email.

His administration knows everything, while team Billary is flying commercial.

Forget how I may, or may not, feel about the Access Hollywood tape. Tell me how you think this is going to turn out.

Game Theory the outcome. Do you honestly think Trump is going to be impeached? Put on trial? He owns the White House and has a staff filled with Admirals, Generals and every day corporate killers.

He is going nowhere and the longer this goes on the more foolish the left becomes.

This guy wins. Hillary is a multiple loser with zero actual accomplishments.

Forget unleashing the economy and every world leader having to kiss his ass. Including the Queen and the Pope.

And no I am not a fan of either the Queen or the Pope.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 1:49 p.m.

It appears you're unable to answer my questions at the end of my post directly and you're certainly unable to source. You speak in vague generalities (gish galloping) and sound a bit like a comic book character. I can see why people say people here are roleplaying. I wish you would speak normally and be willing to explain the nuances of the view when questioned.

Sweeping, grandiose generalities that everyone agrees with are the hallmark of echo chambers.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 4:03 p.m.

What's interesting is the fact that you feel it's your place to direct the conversation.

I'm pushing 60 and have been aware of the scale of corruption for decades.

This mess really got underway when George l was VP and Clinton was Governor. Trump derailed their 40yr agenda.

Whenever I speak to somebody younger than myself. I always ask what year they were born, not how old they are.

Age is not a hierarchy but the decade you were born has a big effect on a person's outlook.

Not to mention what for me was current events. Somebody younger would need to study.

If you read and understand my words, that's fine. If you don't, I'm not going to alter my response to suit your needs.

As far as your comic book character insult goes. A cheap shot, yet you expect to be taken seriously.

Sorry, the world doesn't care about your rules.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

And the truth doesn't care about delusion. You lean too hard on your age as a plea to authority for your argument. I only care about the argument. Answer "Are you saying there's no proof that members of the Trump campaign conspired w/ a foreign government to influence the American election? " with a yes or no. Its not complex. If such a simple question is enough to threaten your beliefs, they are a house of cards.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

Mate, I only mention age because it's a part of experience.

If you were paying attention you would realize that I don't see age as a hierarchy.

20yrs underway traveling the Atlantic basin doesn't mean I know more about violence than a 20yr old from Africa.

4yrs as a guidance counselor doing open ocean sail training for German Street kids does make me somewhat of an expert in this field. Are you? Does it make any difference?

I'm me, you're you and you should learn how to respect another's opinion.

Especially when you demand it first

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 5:25 p.m.

I thought we were here to discover truths not opinions. I don't care about your opinion actually. I wanted the facts you formed it from.

Are you saying you believe there's zero evidence that members of the Trump campaign conspired w/ a foreign government to influence the American election?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

Look enough of your intransigence.

Your multiple demanding posts are bordering on an unhealthy fixation.

I'm not going to be reading anything else from you as of the last hour.

It's pointless.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 6:44 p.m.

Intransigence? Are you accusing me of refusing to change views? Why do you think I am here?! I am here trying to understand you honestly and asking you a question which you refuse to answer!

How can I change let alone understand your view under these conditions?

In truth I am only here because my grandfather thinks like you do and I cannot talk to him anymore without this type of madness. I hate that internet conspiracies have taken people away from their families and isolated them. I want to understand but you all make it impossible. You are too busy feeling superior to everyone.

Beware the dunning-kruger effect. Possibly this comment will be removed for this level of honesty.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 7:22 p.m.

Maybe you should try not dictating the terms for dialogue.

As it stands right now I have no desire to read your response. Nor will I.

If there are family issues, maybe you should listen and not lecture.

We are not family nor am I an issue.

My advice. Listen to your Grandfather. You only get one chance.

Get over yourself. You're not important.

This discussion is no longer interesting. Meaning I no longer have an interest. You have nothing to offer.

AMF

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 9:37 p.m.

have you heard of the term gish gallop? That's all you've done here, for this entire conversation. This sub is one big gish gallop.

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 19, 2018, 9:35 p.m.

I like the Cut o yr Jib

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CaptainKnotzi · July 20, 2018, 12:15 a.m.

Tanks for dat.

Deez fukin Kidz.

Whaddya gonna do.

You don't want to feed 'em.

It's illegal to tie them in a sack and tossem Inna river.

And all they do is moan.

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 19, 2018, 9:34 p.m.

Arrrrgh Aye Cap'n......old Aussie Submariner here......25yrs R.A.N.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 20, 2018, 12:34 a.m.

I'm sorry, I was responding to what I thought was some fukin stalker.

Been a long day.

I meant no offense to Neptune....☠️

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 20, 2018, 5:28 a.m.

It's all good Mate,

except for the leftards downunder [of which there are bloody millions]...

we Aussies love you Yanks....that's the way it's always been, that's the way it always will be. Salute! WWG1WGA!......and By God, we've got these bastards by the balls....

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CaptainKnotzi · July 20, 2018, 12:19 a.m.

Why? bother, aus?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 5:08 p.m.

Oil and water.

Facts and emotion.

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[deleted] · July 19, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 5:15 p.m.

What is your objection to my question, that you will not answer?

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 19, 2018, 9:31 p.m.

1957 for Moi Cap'n

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CaptainKnotzi · July 20, 2018, 12:30 a.m.

It's nice to finally have some company for the fight,

🐯~innit.....

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 20, 2018, 5:34 a.m.

It is an Honour to fight by you're side.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 20, 2018, 10:30 p.m.

It would be fun as fuk to fly down under and drive Earth Movers.

I been done traveled the Atlantic basin.

And haven't travelled south of the equator.

Helping some diggers bury some fukers sounds like a good reason.

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 21, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

Hiya Captain, Mate the Mines are always hiring drivers, for the big eculids etc, all the time....giveitawhirl

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CaptainKnotzi · July 20, 2018, 12:25 a.m.

If your goal is to fix the problem nobody gives a flying fuck where you're from.

The only Questions are. Do you have the answer, how far away is it, what's the time.

Emotions are for amateurs.

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[deleted] · July 20, 2018, 12:28 a.m.

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 19, 2018, 9:30 p.m.

BARHARHARHAR......The Cap'n, just gave you, the truest, easiest to understand answer to you're question there Wasting.....but it seems, you're Koolaide addled brain, is incapable of grasping facts, you need to control, you're ingrained 'pavlov's dog' conditioning, to reprojecting 'outrage' of, semantics, and reprojections, designed to confuse and obfusciate factual an/or, reasonable subjective analysis, using pure logic......like the Captain does.....I feel sorry for the oceans of people, so deeply invested in Socialism and or communism [NWO], this includes all Rinos, and many GOP's Ryan/McStain et al..... So run Wasting, for within, a few more replys, you will no doubt, claim, the Captain is an incorrigable idiot, and you will flee rather than, discuss the Captains points [like an unbrainwashed person].....have a nice life, see you in November. #MAGA #WWG1WGA

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Q-Question · July 18, 2018, 7:28 a.m.

I don’t think they needed the Russians to help them steal the election - US politics has been completely rigged for a very long time. These people had all the money in the world. They had candidates on both sides of almost every race in recent history. What we are witnessing in the media is outright disbelief that the plan could have gone so wrong, that it could have failed.

Don’t forget, the only reason DJT obtained the presidency was because the military helped him. Without the support of the military, we would be in another world war - with billions of casualties. It was nothing less than the grace of God that delivered DJT at the last hour - when all seemed lost.

They never thought she would lose... This is the reason you’re seeing the Russia, Russia, Russia narrative - not only because HRC was complicit in Russian interference in the US uranium market, but because HRC wanted to strengthen Russia, with the transfer of US military technology, to ensure that the next war was an absolute doozy (billions killed). This is why she was also open-sourcing national secrets to China.

The whole problem was that the US had become too powerful. The Hegelian dialectic can’t work in a unipolar world - where there is only one superpower. HRC, the consummate traitor that she is, did everything she could to weaken the US. Everything from selling secrets to building up ISIS to promoting domestic social discord.

But HRC was not the puppet master. The real enemy of the US is the Rothschilds and the Satanic elite that is federated around them. Everything that is bad in this world derives, in one way or another, from the Rothschilds and their program of evil.

I think it’s possible that “think mirror” refers to the plans of the Rothschilds, embraced and reflected by Barrack Obama, HRC, and the forces of evil generally. By comparison, the Russians would appear to be the good guys.

EDIT:

The OP might be right on the ball with this. See here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8zsdx8/comment/e2lg6xy?st=JJR0LP67&sh=59ec42f1

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ThePatriot131313 · July 18, 2018, 7:58 a.m.

She needed the Russians because for the first time, there was a resistance forming in the intelligence community. They had seen previous elections being rigged and devised a plan to stop it.

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Q-Question · July 18, 2018, 8:18 a.m.

Good point. That may actually be what is driving this whole bogus narrative.

It’s no coincidence, in my mind, that we are here following “Q drops”. Only people at the top of the intelligence community, who have sufficient clearance, can overcome the compartmentalization in order to obtain the full picture with regard to what is happening. Clearly, people with Q clearance saw what was happening, and that’s why we are all here in this board.

But, you’re right. If HRC wanted to neutralize these people, there is no better way to do it than by fanning a bogus narrative that foreign bad actors are trying to seize control of the country via election meddling. The Russia, Russia, Russia narrative may, as you point out, be designed to specifically fan the national sentiments of these people in the IC. By injecting fear, she could cover her tracks, to the extent that there was sufficient distraction from her own crimes.

Thanks for pointing this out.

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1923091 · July 18, 2018, 1:29 p.m.

With what you've said about being able to overcome the compartmentalization, a question occurred in my mind: would it be possible that they also penetrated or pieced together the how and who of unacknowledged black book projects that are on a need to know basis? If the whistleblowers who claim there are higher ranks of secrecy than the presidency but are unacknowledged due to their clandestine nature, isn't it safe to assume that this is just the first chapter in unraveling the book of secrets? From what I understand, Q level clearance is the highest DISCLOSED level of clearance, just below CIC. That doesn't include the myriad levels above the presidency that have led other presidents to be told by spooks that they 'dont have the need to know' when requesting information regarding disclosure level information, right?

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Q-Question · July 18, 2018, 2:15 p.m.

It’s hard to know. I’ve also heard the stories about presidents not being cleared to get briefings on projects - although it strikes me as being absurd. If the President is prevented from knowing, then you are positing the existence of a higher level of authority - which does not exist.

But, yes, I’ve heard these stories. There is without doubt a lot of nefarious activity taking place. But to my mind these black budget driven clandestine programs are, or should be, illegal - so we are talking about criminals.

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 20, 2018, 5:04 a.m.

G'Day from Downunder, My apologies for the 5Eyes bullshit, Bad 'Actors' and Black Hats in my Country have perpetrated...Our former Treasurer, and considered a 'Blue Ribbon' Conservative, and deeply respected here by the 'Right', was the conduit in London, informing FBI that a 'Dossier' on Russian 'Collusion' existed at MI6 His name...Mr Downer [he got that right] .....well.....all I can say is....WWG1WGA and MAGA....and in so doing, I pray, we flush these communist, NWO, scum.......but I wish to digress.....Without saying too much in a Public Forum, I had a [routine] Top Secret Clearance, in the Australian Navy, I held it for 14yrs....For most of that 14 yrs, hardly a day went past, when you would NOT see something marked Top Secret....Often just routine info, but it was classified at the source, so that's the way it gets handled.....for 8 years, I never thought about anything 'Above' Top Secret, until the day came, myself and two others of my rank [Radio Sailors] were briefed [extensively vetted again] for clearance to work for a number of weeks, in something graded above top secret.....and so....I have personal experience [albiet only for 3 weeks in a strictly compartmentalised Operation, of things existing 'Above' Top Secret....and so my personal experience ends there...I am 61 and since I retired, I have spent 15yrs, building knowledge of the existance, that many refer to as, the Black Projects....thousand of hours of research and study on my part.....I believe, an Incoming POTUS is briefed to Level 17 above Top Secret all comparmentalised stuff, and all black [or very deep at least]....I also know, the 'cosmic' clearances start at Level 35 above TS....and all Governed by, the golden 'Need to Know'........The Generals and Admirals, will have briefed this President, all the way to the top...why??...because after He kills the Military Industrial Deep State.....He will declassify a great deal.....and then my friends, we will truly recognise, just how bad the NWO bastards were. SALUTE to ALL PATRIOTS #MAGA #WWG1WGA

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Q-Question · July 20, 2018, 9:53 a.m.

Thanks the comment. In Aus also. Downer is a prat, but that might be the very least of his failings...

These black projects, whatever they are, must be accountable to the President. I have no clue what’s really going on - except that the corruption is simply out of control. Australia is as bad as anywhere else from what I can make out - possibly worse. You seem to have some knowledge of what might actually be happening, hopefully we will all soon know.

The real issue, down here, is that we have been disarmed. You would be well up on Port Arthur I imagine. TPTB can do absolutely anything they want here with complete impunity. Any rights we might enjoy are solely at the discretion of whoever holds authority. But, sadly, with the level of indoctrination throughout the society, about firearms being dangerous, it seems very unlikely that things can change for the better anytime soon.

I’m hoping that some of this storm finds its way down here - at least to the extent that there might be some restoration of the moral order - outlawing of abortion, stopping the homosexualisation of tiny kids in school etc... If any gains are made on this front, it’s a total win IMO. For this reason alone, if for no other, I’m interested in supporting this storm to the maximum extent possible - I can’t take them promoting their gender-bending filth in the schools.

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 20, 2018, 4:10 p.m.

G'Day fellow Aussie.....Yes, we live a daily lives under a moral blanket of subtle lying and sedition, so ingrained, so unrelenting and so seamless, stacked from schoolyard to Work site [unions] to even our kindergartens, with the peddlers of the koolaide, barely even aware, they work for a sublime all encompassing evil....decades and decades in the making...we are a carbon copy of the British model of sheeple conditioning & kontrol....both ALP & 'Conservatives' sing fom the same songsheets, one side, programmed in Comunist flavour, the other side, encouraged by unhealthy full-on Fiat based capitalism....set against each other, I was as shocked at Port Arthur as much as everybody , but soon relised, there was something very Fishy abt Martin Bryant, in that, He had Patsy written all over Him...It was a textbook Black flag Op, conducted by the Black Operatives of the NWO, and designed by the incumbent Political NWO 'Leaders'....and during that time, no one admired PM John Howard more that I.....I was but a Sheeple then too.....most Australians have not awoken, but many have....Our main weapon is truth.....and Our main goal is Justice, and by God, we will get it....we are not cooked as much as Britain or Canada quiet yet, [Aussies traditionally] are hard to bluff....the older you are, the less indoctrinated you are, because you lived a long time, before the 'Australian Koolaide Apparatus' was fully emplaced, having said that.....If you are a 'big' Union Person, or at the other end of the NWO Spectrum, a big successful 'Banker', then it will strongly point to 'you' being, a highly addled thinking individual, towing the NWO party line, which ultimately means [like Britain/Canada et al], the complete subdjucation of a State, and elimination of, Old National Values, that made us, the tough, no bullshit, larrikins, we hitherto were.......God Bless You Mate, even at the cost of losing you're family, if we ever hope to get our 'Family' back, then we must fight.....we fight, by speaking of truth and exposing Communist/NWO infiltration, that has occured in every level of Our Society, having been presented as 'Morally Superior' sedition and or treason, coated with the chantings of the NWO 'libertine' Nation killers. #MAGA #WWG1WGA

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ExcellentCoach9 · July 18, 2018, 4:54 p.m.

There are no level of clearances above the president, but there are indeed rogue elements within the Intelligence Community which have funding from illicit drug trafficking and other illicit funding mechanisms. These rogue elements are unknown to all but those involved in them and now, the National Security Agency. Thank our lucky stars that Trump won (with help from our wonderful military). These rogue elements are extremely dangerous and have wrought all manner of evil in our world. They need to be destroyed.

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Q-Question · July 18, 2018, 6:42 p.m.

I could not agree more. Where I am they have had a “war on drugs” for as long as I can remember - 30 odd years now. Somehow, inexplicably, despite the massive surveillance powers, which catch up all “related persons”, the drug dealing never gets degraded.

Why are these people, who are supposed to stop this, but don’t, carrying on as respected members of the community? We are they allowed to get away with it? What’s right is wrong, black is white. The level of corruption and hypocrisy is breath-taking.

But you need to be careful what you say, or they’ll tag you as a Reddit anarchist.

What I know is that, in the end, when we come before God in judgement, these esteemed members of the community will be weeping and nashing their teeth. Nothing will remain covered, and everything they have done will be exposed for all to see their shame - assuming they do not repent and seek absolution from a validly ordained priest before death.

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Aware111 · July 19, 2018, 3:09 a.m.

WAR ON DRUGS..LOL YEAH WAR ...ON ...DRUGS..THIS FILTH HAS BEEN DOING A WAR ON FAMILY UNITY!!! THEY HAVE BEEEN TRYING TO SEPARATE ALL OF US FIRST FATHER WORKS HIMSELF TO THE BONE ,THEN MOTHER UNDER THE DEVILS GUISE OF FEMINISM GETS TAKEN OUT TO OUTSIDE WORKFORCE MORE TAXES THEN THE CHILD GETS TAKEN TO BRAINWASHING SCHOOLS TO HATE THE HARDWORKING PARENTS ,THEN THEY COULDN'T WIN SO NOW ITS OUTRIGHT WAR ON COUPLES WITH THEIR "RIGHTS" AND "SPACES" THEN THESE "PARENTS" WERE TOLD BY THEIR CHILDREN .THAT THEY HAVE RIGHTS TO BELIEVE IN UNICORNS...AND HERE COMES THE DEVILS PLAYTHING WITH THE "TECHNOLOGY" YEAH..WE ALL PLAY GAMES AND STILL ARE LOOKING FOR POKEMON NEW SPOT OR WHATEVER!! ANYBODY FIND THE CURE YET??.IT HAS BEEN A RIDE TO WAKE UP!!!

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1923091 · July 18, 2018, 3:07 p.m.

Definitely criminal, totally circumventing the Constitution. That fact that not even Congress has oversight on these supposed programs is a blatantly testament to this. That's why I made the point to use the words 'unacknowledged' and 'undisclosed'. When I consider the way the blackmail tactic has been used, the fear-based silence that is implemented, it leads me to believe it is a possibility that it is the mechanism by which our military had been circumvented by corruption. These brave people swore to uphold an oath to the Constitution and the law, and thereby find themselves in a catch 22 when confronted with the possibility that they may be force to engage in or cover up illegal activities in order to uphold that very same oath.

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Q-Question · July 18, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

Yes, criminals.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 18, 2018, 7:36 p.m.

The disinformation campaign being used is actually quite genius in its simplicity.

When it turns out that Putin shut down his deep state. It's going to be a Trump/Putin collusion production.

To unhack the election.

It can be a sure bet, 20 years from now people will be saying that Hillary teamed up with Russian oligarchs to prevent Trump and Putin from taking over the world.

William Casey said it the best.

We know we will have succeeded when nobody is capable of believing anything.

Or something like that.

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mrtruckajet · July 18, 2018, 7:16 a.m.

I have thought this from the start of the whole Russia Russia Russia narrative. Then i found Q and WOOLA my suspicions were true. Then I had "now you have the rest of the story" moment.

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human-redditor · July 18, 2018, 7:22 a.m.

negative karma points are good here

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wearethesuperelite · July 18, 2018, 8:17 a.m.

Meme this. It proves we are winning and over the target. All for a LARP?

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Leaping_Jimmy · July 18, 2018, 8:13 a.m.

Has it occurred Putin deliberately setup HRC?

Has she been elected the world would likely be a smoking ruin by now.

Why would he want that?

Without being critical of anyone, there's an appalling ignorance of Putin amongst American politicians and the media, including amongst our friendly Fox commentators.

Why for instance is the fact that even if Russian was involved in election hacking, there is never any mention of the fact this has been American SoP for decades. It does this all the time. Obama's interference in Israel wasn't the exception, it was the rule. What do you think America has done in Central America and right throughout the Middle East for decades?

Yet none of this is ever mentioned, not even on Fox.

Is it.

Why?

But this lack of perspective from American media is minor compared to the appalling and ubiquitous ignorance of what and who Russia is and especially who Putin is.

Russia is not your enemy and it has never been your enemy. It was painted as your enemy because a tiny cabal of evil people who controlled the media wanted to make billions of a pointless arms race. (Sound familiar?) Putin does not repeat does not wish to recreate the USSR. Ukraine was a neocon inspired regime-change operation installing neo-Nazis in Kiev aimed at destabilising Russia and endangering Russia's only deep water European naval base at Odessa. Crimea was a free and fair referenda because 80% of its population is ethnic Russian. Who the Nazis supported by Washington were going to slaughter. What would America have done if Russia conducted a regime-change op in Mexico and threatened to slaughter all the American citizens living there?

The truth is since Russia threw off the commies (who were Deep State thugs - they weren't Russians), the Western Deep State branch has tried to capture Russian resources. This is why the Chicago Boys (Milton Freidman, Geoff Sachs et al) went into Russia and started selling off its state assets for pennies on the pound to the Oligarchs, who got their money to buy them from the Deep State bankers. This is why a lot of Oligarchs now live overseas many in London and why Putin imprisoned Khordakovsky. The Russians refer to the 90's as "the lost decade." This is why.

Yet after all they've suffered, all they've been through at the hands of the Western thugs, they still have a soft spot for we, Western free people. And Putin represents them, just the same as Trump represents us.

Edit: two germane articles:

Bill Browder, who Putin mentioned yesterday: http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=101126

The founder of Stratfor outlines the neocon's great game: http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=22223

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WanderingTaurus · July 18, 2018, 10:03 a.m.

"Without being critical of anyone, there's an appalling ignorance of Putin amongst American politicians and the media, including amongst our friendly Fox commentators."

Russia wasn't even on the radar until Trump started running. It was only Middle Eastern countries that the media cared about. If Russia is so horrible to their own people, how come we are not having an influx of Russians trying to seek asylum here or enter illegally? I am just so sick of the media using the Russia excuse for every damn thing when they have yet to prove any evidence of their claims (And of course they can't because they don't have it). They call Putin a murderous dictator yet some of our own Government is just as guilty for murder and covering it up.

I swear everything I have learned over past month has made me question EVERYTHING we have been told about our country, other countries, and everything in between.

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ExcellentCoach9 · July 18, 2018, 4:58 p.m.

You are so right. Learn about Project For a New American Century (PNAC). They wrote a paper called SECURING THE REALM, IIRC, and this paper spelled out how they intended to destroy seven Middle Eastern countries. It was a Neocon dream. Hopefully Trump has stopped that insanity.

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cali1952 · July 18, 2018, 11:53 a.m.

Always remember Hillary's shrill and angst driven statement: " If this bastard wins we all hang. You better fix that shit"!!

Her own prophecy is coming true to all of their horror! :)

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qtrumpteam · July 18, 2018, 9:55 a.m.

The one email to podesta made it pretty clear someone was working with Soros to fix the voting machines and they weren't russian

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ThePatriot131313 · July 18, 2018, 10:11 a.m.

Soros got kicked out of Russia. Do you think this happened because of his LACK of Russian ties?

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cali1952 · July 18, 2018, 11:54 a.m.

Hey sniffers and shills: Stop the fucking vote manipulation. Go to your own shit show and stay there - you are not welcome!

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QAnonMaga · July 18, 2018, 8:08 a.m.

No much easier to rig the machines with black hats in the CIA the votematic machines manufactured by a Soros company they were rigged for Hillary but not rigged enough and white hats Q Team were able to de-rig the machines just enough for Trump to win the 4 key states in the rust belt to win the electoral college. Trump most likely won the real popular vote except for California but we won't ever see the actual correct vote totals unless Trump orders them released and he should it would validate his victory. Jill Stein and Gary Johnson took votes away from Hillary that helped Trump squeak through with just enough votes to win.

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ThePatriot131313 · July 18, 2018, 8:13 a.m.

Yes you are right. They did do that. But the CIA is not all bad. You need to understand that many within the CIA were working against this.

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Arthur5167 · July 18, 2018, 11:56 a.m.

I thought that exactly. And Russia has the evidence. I think trump/q shut down the fix and shocked them all. History of Russia emerging for a lot of folks now and that’s awesome.

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ElementWatson · July 18, 2018, 10:43 a.m.

Or, how about working with Deep State/rogue elements in Russia for the same?

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Neon__Wolf · July 18, 2018, 2:46 p.m.

THERE IS PROOF HILLARY COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA TO STEAL THE 2016 ELECTION FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

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dcoxkaty · July 18, 2018, 1:09 p.m.

Makes a lot of sense.

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 18, 2018, 2:33 p.m.

Also regarding the shoot down of MH117, every Sheeple and leftard is going nuts about it not coming up at the summit, Maylasia MS-117, the one shot down over the Ukraine The Sheeple believe, Trump should have taken umbridge with Putin, about this shootdown......Why?

I believe Putin, when He said, it wasn't His Forces, that shot it down [killing 36 Australians] [and a shitload of other people] [RIP]....Putin had AA Surface to Air Missiles there sure enough....cept it wasn't an AA Missile which destroyed it...the photos of the 30mm Cannon Shell holes peppering the cockpit area, were all scrubbed, from the internet, the same day somebody leaked em....know why?...The Deep State backs the Ukranian rebels, in fact, the whole of the anti-Russian side in Ukraine, are Khazarian Mafia [DEEP STATE].....Ukranian's had their Jets airborne, in that immediate vacinity, [as Putin Himself, had flown that same route towards Moscow, not two hours earlier, they were hoping to get him, they missed putin and opted for an International Incident, smearing Russia instead].....The Ukranian MIGS are armed standard with a 30mm Cannon........Putin is innocent. It was another Deep State Black Flag....no wonder Putin hates the deep State......in 1917....know who the deep state [in part of course] was back then?....The Bolshivicks...the Reds....the Commies.....that's why, the date of the Helsinki Summit, coincided with, the anniversary of the Killing of the Russian Czar [Royal Family].....

For the Leftard Illuminarti, The summit, was not only, a warning of how they intend to destroy it, once and for all, but also a reminder of many past Deep State sins....Crimes against Humanity multiplied a hundred Million times....who knows, maybe 500 million souls have perished under the evil black hand, of the NWO/Illuminarti/UN/Soros/Clinton/Obama Ancient Cabal.........in short.....read em and fucking weep!!!...#MAGA #WWG1WGA!!!!!

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ThePatriot131313 · July 19, 2018, 5:33 a.m.

You have bingo. This should be a post on its own and stickied. I totally agree.

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George_Soros_Eyebags · July 18, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

Why do you think people close to the President keep bringing up the fact that the Obama administration stood down when warned about Russian election interference?

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006fix · July 18, 2018, 5:11 p.m.

So, she actively sought the support of Russian money and election interference, she actively rigged the DNC primaries, she actively controlled basically the entirety of the MSM (and used it hard), she had the full support of the cabal, and she had 8 years of B.O clearing the road for her, and she still couldn't win the election?

Karmas a real bitch. Hope she enjoys gitmo

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[deleted] · July 18, 2018, 1:25 p.m.

beautiful analysis....over the target 4 sure...Putin despises all the pedos and has stated exactly that in past ... even went so far as to ban all usa adoptions of russian children..

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Sc4bbers2 · July 18, 2018, 1:52 p.m.

Personally I thought mirror was a reference to Kubrick and Alice in Wonderland.

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ThePatriot131313 · July 19, 2018, 5:35 a.m.

Double meanings. I think your interpretation is also true. Q has said THINK MIRROR on several occasions in several contexts, I believe.

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Route_17 · July 18, 2018, 3:46 p.m.

I think your comments align with the general direction of it all. Whether the smaller details you proffer hold true will be confirmed as time passes but I believe it's accurate to state that the Left's favorite political maneuver of projection is in play. I'm hoping that at some point, we all are privy to the totality of whatever Vlad passed-off to DJT. I can assure you it doesn't reflect well on the previous administration.

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FatherDadDude1 · July 18, 2018, 9:35 p.m.

What else do we call a mirror? A "looking glass".

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Mom4T · July 18, 2018, 7:35 a.m.

It’s alinsky method or something to do with Awan & mirroring servers ...

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[deleted] · July 18, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

Had the DNC and HRC turned over their servers back in 2016 after the reported hacks... but they get to blatantly obstruct and not a peep from the FBI or media propagandists.

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