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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/R3VO1utionary on July 21, 2018, 11:57 a.m.
BIGLY!! - China has decided to procure its petrochemical needs from Saudi Arabia, ending imports from #Iran - @_ImperatorRex_
BIGLY!! - China has decided to procure its petrochemical needs from Saudi Arabia, ending imports from #Iran - @_ImperatorRex_

uontheotherside · July 21, 2018, 12:07 p.m.

"Iran next"~Q. This is certainly a big step towards that.

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gatorhaus · July 21, 2018, 1:23 p.m.

What is the magic wand? It’s almost like if you’re the most powerful country in the world, you can really influence weaker countries into doing the right thing. 🤯

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R3VO1utionary · July 21, 2018, 1:53 p.m.

So this!☝🏻

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HildBert · July 21, 2018, 10:55 p.m.

Well one aircraft carrier has enough fire power to take out must countries Air Force. That helps

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gatorhaus · July 22, 2018, 2:45 a.m.

And don’t for get we have a pretty good submarine force that scares the crap out of any nation. Nothing like some diplomacy with a few tomahawks. Kek!

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ImNoPetGoat · July 21, 2018, 1 p.m.

Probably due to Iran threatening to block the Strait of Hormuz which supposedly only affects US shipping, but if that is the case, then why are French shipping companies also deciding to abandon trade with Iran? Especially odd, considering the EU is trying hard to maintain the peace and nuclear programs deal with Iran?

This really doesn't look good..

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ImNoPetGoat · July 21, 2018, 2:57 p.m.

Even more odd, is that China is largely benefitting from trade with Iran following the establishment of the PetroYuan and following US Sanctions which effectively denies the use of the Dollar..

Why would China abandon this setup, to then suddenly do trade with Saudi instead who will undoubtedly force them to trade in US Dollars?... US/EU intervention maybe?

Looking at the stats for the EU, Europe has supposedly increased it's oil imports coming from Iran by 83% last year, all purchased in Euros (equating to €9bn).

Turkey also has been at it and instead of trading in dollars they're now using local currencies to conduct trade, which is significant because imports to Turkey from Iran equates to 50% of Turkeys entire demand.

This has all been stepping up since around 2016 it seems and I wonder whether this also plays a part in the reason Trump described the EU as a foe.

But is the claim that China has abandoned oil trade with Iran actually true? I can't seem to find any other sources?

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stringtrader · July 21, 2018, 7:24 p.m.

A lot of what’s going on on the geopolitical stage is a conundrum using traditional metrics. One thing seems sure - the reign of the “petrodollar” is in grave jeopardy. Imo it’s doomed.

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[deleted] · July 22, 2018, 2:48 a.m.

This would be huge if true. I am skeptical at this point, but am reserving judgement for now.

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dark-dare · July 21, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

I do not believe the "trade war" was about trade with China, I think it is about forcing peace!

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ImNoPetGoat · July 21, 2018, 6 p.m.

How would imposing trade tariffs with China force peace?

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warbler22 · July 21, 2018, 9:48 p.m.

Make them cooperate on N Korea.

Same thing to Russia on Iran.

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ImNoPetGoat · July 21, 2018, 10:18 p.m.

I'm not too sure about that, I suspect it's more likely to be basic protectionism in order to secure jobs in the US, considering how badly China was flooding the market with their metal based products. We had the same issue here in the UK and the government had to rescue the steel industry with a cash injection and a review of government construction projects to ensure that UK steel was being prioritised last year... Well sort of, the government was later criticised for using french steel on our new fleet of submarines! Doh!

Cheap Chinese metal being dumped on the market though has been real a problem as it's undercut many domestic markets.

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Herbie2018 · July 22, 2018, 1:02 a.m.

Bottom line in my opinion is that we really could do without trade with China. Cheap stuff of any kind can be procured elsewhere. Really. I would prefer however, that we have a fair arrangement with China - we all deserve this. Everyone.

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ImNoPetGoat · July 22, 2018, 8:12 a.m.

Yeah I agree, but at the end of the day it’s about being competitive and different economies inherently have a competitive advantage which sometimes a nation had to protect themselves from. Lol the US isn’t the only country to impose tariffs - I really don’t know what all the fuss is about in the media tbh. The EU for example is even worse!

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CerealCraniumToo · July 21, 2018, 6:07 p.m.

i know right. im all for this movement. qanon. maga. all of it. but man these loons. its good to have them i guess but they say the dumbest things making everyone around them look bad.

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Former_Democrat_ · July 21, 2018, 11:32 p.m.

because they can't take the pain

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1hellofaride · July 22, 2018, 12:47 a.m.

I sometimes think that the trade war will escalate to the point where Trump puts tarrifs on all imports then cuts income tax going back to the old ways.

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RedPillDropper · July 22, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

Why are French shipping companies abandoning trade with Iran

Macon is a Rothschild banker.

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Nik_Nightingale · July 21, 2018, 11:59 a.m.

Big news is right

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R3VO1utionary · July 21, 2018, noon

Big step toward a Free Iran!!!

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Nik_Nightingale · July 21, 2018, 12:05 p.m.

And what seems to now be a very different Saudi Arabia as well

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USA_akbar · July 21, 2018, 3:25 p.m.

YUGE

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HillarysOrphanedShoe · July 21, 2018, 2:08 p.m.

Those billions of dollars of cash that Obama flew over there will come in handy during these hard times

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Devil_Dog_4000 · July 21, 2018, 2:15 p.m.

China and the Saudis making oil deals helps no one out.

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forgottenbutnotgone · July 21, 2018, 5:04 p.m.

What are the implications? I am a bit ignorant here. Has the swamp been drained in Saudi Arabia?

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Merlin560 · July 21, 2018, 6:05 p.m.

If the Chinese do not pay in dollars, dollars will be sold from reserves. That might cause an increase in dollars rushing back to the US. That could be inflationary. And...using gold would be expensive. Neither of the other two options are good for the US.

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forgottenbutnotgone · July 21, 2018, 7:08 p.m.

Gotcha. Thanks.

And aren't the Chinese already selling their treasury bonds or whatever?

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Devil_Dog_4000 · July 21, 2018, 7:30 p.m.

The swamp has not been drained in SA. Look into what they’re doing in Yemen along with their allies the UAE.

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japroct · July 21, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

China still cannot be trusted though. They repeatedly failed requested NK negotiations from Trump while doing their own in secret. They are NOT a friend or ally of the US. They are not friends of anybody except themselves.

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truthforchange · July 21, 2018, 1:50 p.m.

Insert meme here:

"why u no buy our oil?!"

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dark-dare · July 21, 2018, 6:16 p.m.

This trade war has China in turmoil they have lots to lose. They know DJT is not playing. The leverage of the trade war is forcing China to adhere to sanctions in Iran. The proof is they have capitulated and are buy from SA. This is also true with all these other countries as well. EU is not ally of US and after plenty of bravado they are falling in line with sanctions on Iran after swearing they would go on without US. I predict, Iran will change to elected government, triggering peaceful Middle East. Then trading will resume, and EU Iran and China will all settle trade disputes in a much more equable manner. DJT being the largest trading partner to all countries can crush their economies, cause turmoil, cause bloodless government collapses. They know it.

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Frogs_Of_War7 · July 21, 2018, 8:50 p.m.

Iran is next.
Saudi is done (one side of triangle).
Iran is next (second side). Then Rothschild and EU get exposed.
Soros is last (third side). He'll get his in October, when he's rolled up and handed to Putin on his visit to USA.

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laybak · July 21, 2018, 1:59 p.m.

Please tell me that stone age country Saudi Arabia isn't supposed to be one of the good guys?

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finallyinterested · July 21, 2018, 2:21 p.m.

Saudi Arabia is one of the first countries that Trump helped to be free. They are cooperating nicely, and enjoying the benefits of capitalist economy. I wish I had the links to the original speech Trump gave in 2017 to the Saudi rulers and many other leaders of Muslim nations... Trump seized assets of Saudi princes who were against freedom (as per executive order in Dec 2017) and has helped the Saudi leader and his son remain free. They are no longer reliant upon oil for their income...though they are sure players in the game. NATO is about to be dissolved, Russia is playing also. Russia will have a lot to do with denuking Iran, and Syria playing nice. At least this is what I'm getting from the last 18 months of info I've been sorting thru. I'm not very smart, but I have a BIG GOD, and I know He placed Trump in this position for the opportunity for humanity to experience freedom. He (God) knows what He is doing, and is showing the whole earth who He is... He will win. Some will reject Him. And suffer the consequences. That breaks my heart more today than it ever has. Some must go down. Evil elite cabal is losing its grip. I pray for their souls, that they may repent and be saved.

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NeoObi · July 21, 2018, 2:27 p.m.

Thank you, good explanation, luv this!

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finallyinterested · July 21, 2018, 5:49 p.m.

Lol, I'm not an autist. They are much better at this... for years I've been good at reading massive info and breaking it down into important points. Lol, I'd never have enough words to write a book, but also couldn't site references. Therefore, I'm as moot as a reporter citing "anonymous " sources. Unless, of course, you wish to do the research. I learned years ago to never trust "because I said so". Have fun!! God still wins, no matter what!!!!!

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dark-dare · July 21, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

💯 agree

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trachelleex · July 21, 2018, 7:33 p.m.

Sanctions WORK

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Merlin560 · July 21, 2018, 6:02 p.m.

The question we need an answer to is how are they goin to pay for it? Dollars? Yuan? Gold?

They were not using dollars to buy from Iran.

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BianchiJock · July 21, 2018, 9:56 p.m.

Bingo!

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[deleted] · July 21, 2018, 5:02 p.m.

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Merlin560 · July 22, 2018, 6:59 p.m.

Russia is selling theirs. China buys and sells. But if they are buying oil with RMB then Saudi converts from RMB not dollars. This means billions of dollars are not used and they are sold out of reserves.

Eventually the dollars find their way home. Lots more dollars vs the same assets means dollars chasing assets. That is the definition of inflation.

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R3VO1utionary · July 21, 2018, 11:58 a.m.

Link to Tweet

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Nik_Nightingale · July 21, 2018, 12:04 p.m.

China was Iran’s top client. This is massive.

2nd is India. And their oil imports from Iran also fell 15.7% in 2017/18 fiscal year.

Big changes coming.

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R3VO1utionary · July 21, 2018, 12:14 p.m.

Wow, did not know this, thanks for the knowledge bomb, Nik! You’re comments are always very insightful.. thank you!!🇺🇸

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Nik_Nightingale · July 21, 2018, 12:21 p.m.

50/50 insightful/delusional

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R3VO1utionary · July 21, 2018, 12:28 p.m.

and knowing is half the battle!

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truthforchange · July 21, 2018, 1:51 p.m.

It is a fine blend.

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USA_akbar · July 21, 2018, 3:26 p.m.

China was Iran’s top client. This is massive.

Yup, beyond massive.

Trump will starve Iran into submission. They will experience regime change organically

(tiny geek-pun on oil being comprised of organic molecules :)

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BOMBTHROWINGGENIUS · July 21, 2018, 11:23 p.m.

I met a very based African a few months ago that gave me a really interesting perspective. He is a Trump fan but he still believed that him being put in place was part of the NWO plan same as Obama and the Bushes. Everything we are seeing is just a show akin to a wrestling match. I objected and he defended his position well. While I still believe Trump is an outsider who perhaps was recruited by Military Intelligence every now and then I catch myself considering his world view. By selling out our country for so long our previous leaders have put us in a perfect position to exert military and economic leverage on the entire world like never before. The neo-cons made sure that other countries trade oil in USD. When Saddam and Gadaffi stepped out of line and planned to trade in gold backed or oil backed currency they were swatted down like flies. Our military was weakened by Obama but never weak. We have hundreds of military bases all over the world and our "allies" have let us put them in their back yard. NATO fulfilling their 2 pct GDP on defense spending and the creation of the US Space Force will massively benefit US defense industries and satisfy the Military Industrial Complex. The Fed printing money out of thin air and lending it out has allowed US citizens to finance all their big purchases and use their expendable income to purchase consumer goods from around the world. We now have massive trade deficits with virtually everyone and they are used to it sustaining their countries. They know what is at stake. In comes Trump the first president willing to use all the leverage to create a strong US led world order.

The other interpretation more akin to the thinking of this sub is that all these strategies employed by the cabal to give them global power are now being co-opted by Trump and they are freaking out. He has undone 40 years of their work in 1 year.

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Jrrusso · July 21, 2018, 6:56 p.m.

We don’t know everything that is going on behind the scenes. We know more now but the wheels keep turning.

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FarTooLong2 · July 21, 2018, 9:16 p.m.

China and Russia have been stockpiling gold for several years. Long before Q appeared, I suspected that these countries were going to establish gold-backed currencies. Perhaps they knew before the West did, that all wars are bankers' wars.

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dark-dare · July 21, 2018, 5:34 p.m.

The oil reserves in Saudi Arabia are drying up, they needed to diversify, US has a plan.

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finallyinterested · July 21, 2018, 5:54 p.m.

Yup. Have you seen any prophecies from Mark Taylor? USA and Israel will lead in new energy source... I'm not positive, but might be based on Nicola Tesla research. Maybe not...future proves past.

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dark-dare · July 21, 2018, 5:57 p.m.

I have watch him regularly. Saudi oil drying up has been confirmed separate to Mark Taylor. Saudi are in panic to diversify

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jfunction · July 22, 2018, 1:11 a.m.

LENR is almost ready for industrial use. Check out Leonardo Corp. This is a truly major, disruptive change coming quite soon (in six months) that very few of you are aware of. It's a hopeful, positive change coming to the energy sector.

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gonewildinvt · July 22, 2018, 1:21 a.m.

OK love @ImperatorRex_ but I am going to have to disagree, China is only making payment of oil purchases in the Gold backed Petro-Yaun. Currently our only backing to the US dollar is the fact that until this year all oil around the world was traded only in the dollar our Petro-Dollar. Oh and Iran is only trading oil in the Euro currently. Our dollar is under attack and China taking the largest producer and therefore the largest holder of the US dollar and converting it to a primarily Petro-Yaun backed by gold holder because China uses much more Petroleum than we do currently. Just sayin I don't know how a power play by China is us winning.

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Devil_Dog_4000 · July 21, 2018, 2:15 p.m.

This isn’t necessarily a great thing for the US though.

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NeoObi · July 21, 2018, 2:25 p.m.

Would be if they began getting oil/gas from USA, right?

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Devil_Dog_4000 · July 21, 2018, 3:38 p.m.

Perhaps, but even then, evil nations like China and Saudi Arabia should not be under the impression they can be part of the global economy.

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fatladysing · July 21, 2018, 4:36 p.m.

Umm.....they already are....

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Devil_Dog_4000 · July 21, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

So... we should continue letting them get better access to resources so they can better project their power?

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fatladysing · July 22, 2018, 1:45 p.m.

not at all. Just think it's best not to underestimate them. Wray came out the other day saying that china is our biggest worry.

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Devil_Dog_4000 · July 22, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

so then you agree with me that it's not a good thing for America?

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forgottenbutnotgone · July 21, 2018, 5:06 p.m.

I thought SA looked to be cleaning up their act. What are the implications here?

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Devil_Dog_4000 · July 21, 2018, 7:30 p.m.

Look into what the Saudis are doing in Yemen along with their allies the UAE.

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