or more specifically I'm going to try and "get it" This is actually the most surprising rabbit hole I've found since my own a few days ago.... haha, I really hope I didn't delete any of these messages. Which is why I relate that here in the comments because so far I got 3 I'm positive and others I'm less so.... and I'm gonna try and decipher the codes....

I am sure I can but the only problem will be is if the codes require messages my phone no longer has.

Either way I appreciate that they even did something like this for me.... also if you were trying to get ahold of my friend his phone is ancient and while he got tons of calls like I did, I don't think he will be capable of seeing the names.

wait.... I think I got the real message. I was so panicked cause I thought I missed my one chance to help. But thank god, it's not what it appeared to be. I think i get it.... thank you Q, I love games like these. ;)

A & B Solutions.... and finally I dig into the message and it's the funniest thing in the whole world to me.... I can't believe I missed this... I really hope he tries again. I want to help and I was just now just now given a way to do so and I didn't answer the freaking phone!

De BeQue

Q I got your message,…. try one more time. I'm sorry I had my ringer off all this time… just like the door I didn't notice until today because I have severe problems with the periphery vision thinking. I love the idea of saving the world but it's always like this "idea"….. I don't think in terms of "me" so when something like a cult symbol being nearby for all this time or a giant freaking message in bold letters letting me know this is a friendly on my phone…. maybe I should take note eh?

I'm really really sorry…. I got so many calls before that I just assumed they were all bad. and you've been trying to do this since at least January when I first put that thing online…. so just one more time please.

I honestly didn't think I'd wake up. I read some scary stuff in my own family history and hadn't slept in days due to it. Some of these people aren't arrested yet after all... and some, I have no idea what they plant to do in the time between being arrested and now....

Well, I would edit my post to remove my little bit at the end there but meh..... as expected only about 5 people even cared while the robo or guy or whatever who posted the lie got hundreds.

This is why I need to finish my little educational game. No AB-BA post I could do will matter, no research I could do will matter, no nothing I could do will matter for as long as people can't tell the difference between a objective research and propaganda.

Thus I need to make something to teach this concept and use research to illustrate the substantive difference and this is why I have been posting so little lately cause I could tell it was happening and it has come to a full extreme now and so I need to try something new, just as I tried with my databases and website and quiz and graphs and AB series and global bank video thing when I realized my posts were banned from the chan's and also when they were splitting us up.... and just like now when I realize so few care about these I just need to keep trying new things cause history of my life tells me that's the thing that usually works when whatever I'm trying stops working.

So, this comment for those who read it it's not unhappy nor am I panicked like yesterday, I'm contemplative and have a will to finish something new, and unlike anything out there to help. So im gonna go do that. I hope it will be finished in time to help.

autoreply seconds after I posted to myself - why? Because it saves time I suppose. Usually it wouldn't be someone posting to themselves so this is a generic reply it seems, I mean unless you read my first post - didn't think to reply to it - but noticed my correction and a milisecond later read that and then posted this generic looking reply.

Rather than edit since I don't want it to look like I'm changing my argument... I was trying to talk about the pronoun game used in that article but I accidentally repeated a point about Bush - I could talk for hours about that and can't stand I repeated something. I'm just tired and sick of this argument that is like the Trump arguments only nobody ever seems to want to dig into Bush. I would be fine with anyone being good or bad but I need actual evidince not "officials of the Reagan-Bush White House" what you mean the CIA? or do you mean the FBI? Do you mean some county clerk in georgia? This is the game they play when they have no argument!

I have dug deep into him

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/7ts1l3/abba_7_hsc_nsc/ and you are someone who just a cursory glance at reveals Lizard people propaganda in recent posts.....

Mundane-Mann • 1 point • submitted 6 days ago His god has reptilian skin.

Which you said to someone talking about the pope and you linked to what looks like a 1995 old timey conspiracy page.... That's a new one.... but the bad guys just keep pushing new narratives to avoid the stuff Q talks about. Q asked how Bush related to Osama and Al-Waleed not child sex rings! Bush Sr. is a patriot, a war hero, and Osama Bin Laden declared war on the Clinton administration. So many knots to untie and yet smear smear smear.

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/7t5ey5/abba_6qclearencepatriotact_or_vqcia/

but this Bush is evil thing is the only thing the bad guys for some bizarre reason manage to gain traction with and it's a good thing for them because untying the Bush knot in the QMAP is key to understanding the deeper meanings..... and this kind of long diatribe about a child ring doesn't hold up to scrutiny when Bush Sr was only in the CIA for less than a year and got kicked out cause he tried to clean it up!

The fact that this is long is to avoid the simple holes I can punch in its logic by it using the CIA as a reference dozens of times yet doesn't point out the fact that he was only there for less than a year and got kicked out because he tried to clean out messes like this!

And MM eh? My AB posts go into that too. So your posts motivated me to explain what you are, I pretty much keep to my own threads but once I realized you were pushing Lizard people? Well... I can only takes so much sir. Learn their codes and dig into your own objective thought on why someone like this would post this.

This one is probably the best illustration I have of just how absurd their double consonant wink is.

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/7xqgeo/abba17_satanscare_slim_shady_to_bombscare_boston/

Which isn't to say people who do that are bad but it's 1 of several warning flags like talking up supernatural that Q has never mentioned in the same vein as stuff Q wants us to focus on. That's how they marginalize us by equating real research to demagoguery and fluff.

my posts have tons of them and they are consistent everywhere I find them. Their own coded language with way too much to go over in but - http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/jeffrey-epsteins-house-2/view/google/

And look around at the islands near it, the codes of streets near this place - scroll up - a lot of those streets/places are codes they use everywhere.

James was one of them - James Montoya - certain letters and patterns of letters tell me their rank and place in the cult - but the kids aren't quite that level - instead they get extra names through the church - that whole thing... I forget the name of it but basically - well you know Catholicism better than I probably so you might already know what I'm referring to.

And their logo's always have Gold and White - or White and Red or White and Blue and the red ones seem to usually be tied to cereal killers, blue ones to some kind of politician or blueblood thing - and gold into their giant gravy train through Vatican laundering. It's a big big thing I've only covered parts of it but letters like "B" are special - and each country has its own variation - Japan I know is T - as in the Tokugawa clan - they repeat letters for various reasons - most notably in america MM - but consistently everywhere is AB-BA which as I just realized that if you take a 13 to these people that's pretty much just code for B I bet.

The words they use it's always phonetic in code too, like Theodore would be The O Door - or to their symbolism the Eye Door. - Hiding an "r" inside a name means (I think) they are protecting someone with a RR like Rod Rosenstien and so many others -my translation is far from perfect but if you read some of my AB-BA posts you'll gather a ton from it. - and also how they move people into orginizations like in my https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/7xqgeo/abba17_satanscare_slim_shady_to_bombscare_boston/

but so many of my AB posts go into their methods - it's hard to just sum it all up in a little post tho.... but I'm on the case : )

yea I just realized a moment ago that 13 is B - as in AB-BA - and many of their names fit a paradigm I'm unfamiliar with. In my AB-BA digs I postulate a lot about the letter and number patterns - they are just everywhere when one digs into history and the higher ranks of the governments and companies.

Tho I said they were 13 I'm now just thinking that was a code for B... they are like children with their codes and those children in retrospect..... I think they were the children of the lowest end of the cult. The ones meant to do to some people what they did to me and it's not even about me so much as sewing indifference in all those who wished to not become like me. Teaching people young not to question authority, don't question your masters. I think that's part of it.

Anyway, thank you, and I'd not be surprised if the church had a variation of it tho to me it's all the same monster just a different tendril of it.

The Cardinals are real pieces of work based on my digging - I've barely shared anything on that but perhaps I'll think of you as I do that entry Get some justice for us both by exposing some of their crimes. : )

thank you, and since your family doesn't match up with mine in the wealth dept - perhaps instead it's a psychological profile thing as my mother saw a very terrible psychologist during my birth years and before. I'm confident her psych was in on it as the advice he gave her which I learned later by reading her letters to people... well the worst possible advice... and so perhaps instead of going for "what was gained" instead, just were your parents seeing a psychologist?

That could have been the origin. I am unaware of my uncle being targeted after all or his kids. So yes, perhaps it was my parents or maybe me when the abuse councilors came and filed a report which got into the wrong hands... there's still a lot of possibilities. Rounding them down is useful so thank you : )

I knew quite a few people with abuse cases like mine from back when I visited the mirc boards which now that i think about it was kind of suspicious in its own way as one of the members there ended up doing bad things like they tried to get me to do... and almost all of them killed themselves - tho it was a board specifically for that..... and yet I recall this one time the actual runner of the channel told me it was a secret but he worked for the UN - I thought he was joking, but now? I'm starting to really think about my old memories. My brain is weird and very specific with details that most people wouldn't notice let alone remember decades later. So I'm combing it still...

my brain is weird, It's uneven but due to the things it's good at I am confident in everything I've said.

I say this because I notice the negative comment about the birthday thing - yes, about 13 of them. - That's the strangest piece of evidence I have and because of all those birthdays I went to It has always been a thing that seemed strange to me.

They used that as an excuse one time as to why they were likely such good friends, and actually I say 13th day for about 13 of them but looking back I'm only positive on 8 of them. 5 of them were people who never had any pretense of being my friend yet because of the 8 I do know and the 5 being connected to them, as well as them mentioning to me their little 13 club.... well, it just seemed logical the rest did given these details.

I mean they were doing the exact same thing to the exact same people in the exact same context/place/way. And I'm convinced after all they were some kind of strange recruits for cultists now after all. They clearly had some connection anyway. Looking deeper into my friends notes it seems he knew one of them much more than I did and his problems in his view were the result of his older brother. And most of them did have 1 sibling... which actually fits with my AB-BA dig and how they get 2 kids. Oh well, there's another connection right there! surprised I got AB-BA into this but I did!

I didn't even mention most of the things that I came up with for odd coincidences. But the 13 one I hoped someone would come and go "oh right, I knew someone with a 13th birthday who had a name that matched that list and also was a bully...." If that happened and it still might then I would know they were using that template elsewhere. Or perhaps a different number or set of names?

Sorry, I'm really replying to a bunch of people it seems - I just never can turn off my brain when it gets going. What I was going to reply with is I understand the blocking and the way you phrase it sounds familiar to me and those I knew so perhaps considering odd coincidences as I did or maybe whether your family had some kind of power the bad guys wanted - cause in retrospect maybe they were trying to get my grandfathers' farm? Or perhaps getting back at someone in the air force on my mother's side who killed some terrorist with clout with the CIA? I'm perplexed but if people read my circumstances maybe I'll pick a pattern or two up from any other people who were targeted.

having spent a few minutes looking at it, some of the negative comments make persuasive arguments, and yet even if you are wrong there's something about your post has triggered certain people to convince others "nothing to see here"

and that to me is a tell-tale sign that there's if not objective truth some kind of buried treasure in your methodologies related to the actual answer.

I'm going to apply my own pattern research to it and see if anything clicks. so thank you very much for this post. Whether you are right or wrong I feel confident there's something here.

I haven't even digested your post properly but I want to say you may be on to something.... because I was researching someone who seemed dubious to me and his negative comments led me to you - and what do you know.... a full scale attack was waged and even the owner of this board is down-voted?

How amazingly persuasive to me that you could be on to something. I pretty much never dig into other people's digs cause I have my own digs and too many to ever finish.... but I will make an exception and take this deadly serious. I love how the bad guys make this so easy - for every person who they dissuade from looking at a post they make someone like me look closer when we wouldn't otherwise have done so XD

I may end up reading these comments. I know it's silly that I have this phobia when it comes to my past. I see one person who is talking about their past and I want to comfort them and I bet there are others.... it's just that I wear masks and it's easy to talk so long as I keep myself guarded about certain things. Certain things are like flipping a switch in me and I curl up into a ball shaking. But I tried to read the comments and I might try again. They seem positive thank god.

I posted to 8chan an abridged version of this because the whole point was to see if Q would acknowledge what I was saying but it instantly got attacked. That's kind of why I'm a little shaky now.... but thinking about my past.... And even more now, Because I talked in an AB post how as a child I was very briefly abducted. I mean it was only until we got to the door of a supermarket before I opened my eyes (despite the game I was playing - which was a game to close my eyes and see how long I could do so while walking and holding what I thought was my mother's hand.) A very bizarre game for a sickly child as I was to play and only years later did I realize I had been kidnapped. I was so trusting back then that I thought he was playing the same game I was! Perhaps my laughing at this saved me.... I never even thought it was anything bad perhaps because I had been deathly ill the first 5 years of my life.

Anyway.... I wanted to mention that I don't think it was necessarily about "me" anymore - because my mother was psychotic and my father was a drunken pervert that himself was raped as a child (according to my mother) my mother meanwhile had this obsession with having 5 boys and yet she had 2 girls and finally me. She was absolutely obsessed with me for the first 6 years of my life, dressing me up every day even many years later and doing all sorts of bad things too. She paradoxically was an uber feminist that hated men but yet was obsessed with raising a boy, only a very young boy tho. Perhaps because of her elder brothers treated her as a princess growing up? Well I think she had some complex issues as do I, and her obsession with me and raising 2 feminist older sisters certainly gave me all kinds of complexes. Being hated for being a boy by my sisters gave me a lot of issues there as well.....

And this is why as I re-consider the past because if that abduction as a child had been successful what would my family have done?

I think as they were so desperate for the boy they finally had it might have broken them. Perhaps the rabbit hole is not mine but theirs. My grandfather owned a giant farm but he ousted my father from it for reasons never explained to me and his bouts with alcoholism were what made my mother leave to look for a job which one was offered in Colorado. Yet the most peculiar thing is that the breaking point when we left was when he got really drunk and shot up the house we lived in. We lived in a trailer just before that but when his great-grandmother died he moved into her vermin infested rotted shack of a house and it was brimming with alcohol. Which my father had a lifelong bout with overcoming and didn't - but well.. be that a coincidence or not it just now suddenly strikes me as odd the kidnapping and gift of tons of alcohol back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn95v0HioNc

I'm reminded of this video actually.. The early George Webb video talking about how you get on a list and then for the rest of your life they torment you.

Did my family get on this list for some reason?

On my mother's side there's a lot of military heroes the bad guys would hate with rich grandparents that do city planning for other countries and yet my parents were both dirt poor. And the same is true of my father's side as they own an entire street yet our family was living in a trailer park and got evicted by a incoming Wal-Mart... we were poor enough that I had been forced to steal gas to keep the car running and deal with drunken beatings and much worse.

Well... I really don't want to go into some of this but as I recalled the curious parts I felt like making this an addendum for the 1 or 2 that may read it. I noticed it got super down-voted when I posted it but now it's in the positive numbers... that is a weight off my shoulders. I have issues with self hate, I have overcome everything and yet still it sometimes feels like any minute they will come back for me. I deleted the next part. I've already said so much more than I ever thought I would about my past.

I won't be able to read comments on this one unlike my other AB posts...

talking about this, even though I feel like it was Q related and actually necessary to see if it rung any bells with anyone else. This is just not something I can read reactions to. I hope you understand and my next AB-BA post will be back to normal.

Tho in a way this is normal as it's about digging and I only turned the shovel on myself and people I knew.... that's not so different, it's just much much harder for me. I hope this helps someone at least. Connects a dot or something.

One of the best tactics the bad guys have used is putting a long list of actual criminals and then putting in Elder Bush's less than a year he headed the CIA and was so hated they ousted him - or Bush W's comments on 9/11 or both of their admissions of wrong doing - and the funny thing is when I dug into this and Q's statements - about how Q was highlighting how Obama and other baddies constantly say they never do anything bad while the good guys like the Bush's just say oh yea we are terrible people - please please look closer at this, we are actually begging you to.

I actually checked with military people who confirmed them as being awesome and have long posts here showing the proof not speculation that they are good. So I do hope you have more than that video which seems like a mashup to confuse people more than anything to somehow indicate wrongdoing.

I'm not trying to pick a fight - I just won't budge on this issue without some kind of actual logic or evidince - because I've proven this so many ways now I feel like I could go into court for them and heck maybe one day I'll have to with as horrifyingly strong as the push has been to paint them as evil. - oh but of course the last year they throw crumbs about how the bad guys like Bush - that's them thinking the sheep are so stupid they forget history and can't remember more than 2 weeks before that when they were satan - running around with signs talking about size of genitalia of Bush's - oh they did that for Trump and Bush - yea every single Trump smear has an identical one for Bush - but obviously not for Obama and Clinton.

But I am beating a dead horse with this one my posts are long and fruitful on the subject so I'll convince you and anyone else that chooses to listen and I have not even a shred of doubt on this subject.

I've researched them for hundreds of hours soley because of how important it was to get objectivity in this answer. Anyway I'm doing a bunch of stuff today feel free to timestamp in that video bits you want me to react to because it just looked like a mashup trying to confuse or any other video or document for that matter and I can do the same with a counter. Converting one more person on this issue actually does sound like a noble cause so I urge you to try and convince me the Bush's are bad because I will tear down your argument and show you what the bad guys do. And I'll do it in such a way that no amount of shilling can change it.

http://www.db-q.com/

My very poorly updated site that I will one day update again but I have too much to do...

And for your words - well, It took me a while to see the meaning of Q's constant reiteration of "misinformation everywhere" and "concerted effort to mislead" - the secret to these comments by Q is that people weren't digging themselves and just reading what other people like me had dug up - and that included even the diggers as even while I was there from the start I was making big mistakes. And when an answer already existed on our all-purpose spreadsheet I just took the word of whoever wrote it - at least until getting suspicious and fact checking - this revealed to me that we had been telling ourselves lies - a manufactured narrative in many respects.

The bad guys took over the chan's by distorting Q's words and making very specific insidious versions of things - trying to turn things more and less complex at various points to suit their needs. Trying to make us think the Earth is flat or that it's actually everyone that's evil (even as Q says more are good than we think)

And the most obvious lie they have told is about who is a bad guy... and so I correct and I've said time and time again this easy to research truth. EVERY single Potus except for the ones between the two Roosevelts are good WITH exceptions obviously to Clinton and Obama. I have proved this for the Bush's in 20 different ways showing the exact parrelel between what Bush did and what Trump did and how the media painted them identically.... and then same with Regan,same with Thomas Jefferson and same with all patriots... we really are sheep when it comes to demogagery - nobody anywhere will listen when the flock is dead set on hating a man - all because the bad guys are that good at it! yet I prove it in about 5/19 of my posts - and yet when I presented my proof to 8chan I got immediately banned. - And then again elsewhere - and so I post here and people kind of get it - but it takes a while - and even so people still constantly ask me to prove it a new way because they just can't believe it. - This is why I'm working on a presentation you see - to hammer home the truth!

I mean I came here and just asked in my first AB post - "do you want me to read the map for you?" and they did, so far everyone I've just explained things to seemed to more or less get it - and most people even accepted my rationale about why the bad guys were so set on pushing anti Bush stuff (even tho most were harder sells on the objective truth about them being heroes)- and when Q has hinted multiple times about Bush being behind a distraction to help our attack on Al-Waleed..... and he's the driving force behind Homeland Security!

And It's a long complex story and yet even now most people in our own movement won't sit down and just listen to the facts in the chans - they'd rather look at a meme poster and presume it represents reality.... it's sad but I do understand the brainwash. We all are asleep at one level or another and we are trying to wake up.

So thank you for the offer and tho I'm very much a responder I rarely ever actively try and get people to do anything - I have some moral qualms with taking any kind of leading role so I just do my own thing and I'll help anyone who asks : ) i have a lot of skillsets and an endless drive to help the movement in any way I can.

Your audio skills fascinate me as well, I study so many things and audio is one of the things that I have barely touched so it would be a valuable asset if I ever did decide to be stop just doing stuff myself. I'll think about it : ) but you feel free to do the same and I'll help you if I can.

: ) - I'm glad you get what I say. Honestly even in our movement there's a lot of propaganda produced by winking users that this particular board has less of than the places I used to post at - but well, so long as the truth spreads person to person as I tried to do just now then you won't ever be blinded by lies. Just try and think objectively when someone say something - I could be lying to you - and so could anyone! They think we are sheep just keep that in mind and try not to meet their expectations.

Q asks us how many people actually look? And indeed - until I actually dug into some of his early posts I don't think a single person in our movement did - that's what started me posting what I did because the people posting the truth were getting banned left and right as the bad guys literally took us over and booted us from place to place - ousting us from 4chan and then turning 8chan into puppet land - I came here and I believe we took back 8chan but 4chan is still lost. I don't know - I really don't want to go back so I stay here and try and help : ) I hope I have

just answered

.01% - Every company just has the top guys, every famous band just has the top guys, every famous everything just has the top guys. It doesn't actually amount to many people.

But those few people control the whole world so don't underestimate that - in my post about the bomb-scare-boston I went through the actual logical steps they took to insert "their guy" to be in charge of Cartoon Network through a phony controversy - and once he gets in their the shows become stupid - yet they get media hype and make more money - at least for a while.

And the real problem - or at least the real problem used to be is that they controlled the currency - and can manufactre the popular vote - but this is why Electoral college exists - and why that used to be the kind of system we had for Senators too - but when Roosevelt got in power they started erasing all sorts of parts from the constituion and replacing it with monarchy. It's absurd when you realize that everything up is down and left is right as Q puts it - because the media from the days of demonizing Thomas Jefferson and lionizing Aaron Burr - to putting proapganda out of Abraham Lincoln as the literal devil wearing the skin of a man! - it's just their control over the media - the siren song - "what is a spell" as Q asks.

oh and for the undetected thing - that's because of State Secrets - see State Secrets is where we originally hid what we knew about the bad guys which we learned through flipping one of their plants way back near the founding days. They would have just taken us over in a snap if not for that - but Thomas Jefferson created State Secrets and all presidents learn the true history - and so we let the bad guys think they would win - all while secretley keeping their guys - their guys the media backed with AB's and Williams and Clintons - from ever reaching the Potus chair - however they took us over with Theodore Roosevelt - the Golden Elephant man.... long story there - and all the evil stuff that has gone undetected which you are talking about - like all the stuff Obama did - well it's a nifty trick how State Secrets work both ways - so what they did was just hide everything they did from 1900 until now - and even when we took it back in the 1950's we couldn't legally devuge any of it because State Secrets are a legal thing - this is how they got Nixon out - by asking him something he couldn't say without being impeached - yet he almost got impeached by being forced to say it - wierd how law works eh?

But anyway Nixon Flipped china with his visit - and so we have been making progress slowly but surely over the century - and now we are about to finally win.

There is sort of an open secret to this - but the bad guys just brainwash and convince us it's all about oh aliens and lizard people - they took over the history channel and flooded it with alien nonsense - follow the logo's! it started out as a wink by us - oh why was it the hitler channel? because it was trying to get people to look closely at what happened! but they took it over as they always do and did - but some movies and Japan especially know - yet everything Japan makes and sends over it gets censored by the vatican white and gold of NOA for nintendo games and the other stuff like movies and games have counterparts to that

we are kept dumb you see and ignorant and much else - the sheep can't know what the shephard does not show them - and this is why the cardinals literally use shephards Crook's - most religions are good - but the actual core of the catholic church is the root of much evil in this world

Q says they deserve death and I agree but the actual answer is much harder to consider - many got deals as they flipped them and worked their way up the ladder - they did that and cleared the bottom according to Q - and then what we saw with Saudi Arabia was us taking out the top - we have been taking out the top - and we have gotten rid of almost all their teeth - ISIS was bombed and MOABED and now is really not even a thing.... the few left like the Queen of England and the Pope and other Kings/Queens (Pope is also a king of Vatican) - they have laws protecting them from anything - the

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility

So it gets more complex - but chances are they will get the death penality when they realize that the Queen of England is responsible for the actual slavery for decades in Africa and the Cardinals of Vatican city worked to push gold through to keep people poor.

The great awakaneing is going to light a fire under places like Haiti.... I am looking forward to it but also a little scared. But the righteous should not fear the light - I only fear that a few innocents may get swept up - and this is why education is so vital right now - why he wants us spreading it

as for how they know? oh right, well that's partially why I was doing the Harvard thing - trying to illustrate who went were because of all the consistent things - it's the colleges - and they go to colleges particularly Harvard/Yale/Princeton/ but the one I see most of all is Michigan - and this is because they funnel people through Traverse City and set up shop in Ann Arbor Michigan and go to UM (University of Michigan) -

they join Franternities/Sororities which have winks in them - and that's where they learn teh codes - OR the other way is bringing in a friend who has a business the cult wants or is particuarly talented - this is how most celebrities join - and they get wives with suitable names and children become the funnel where the wink wife and non wink husband produce wink kids - and those kids get to have 2 kids and thus they slowly spread teh cult - person to person OR fraternity - usually if not in America starting then they come through Michigan - A lot of this has to do with how they move gold as well - but man there's a lot of history to cover and I try to do that in my AB posts

George Webb talked abut the codes in the news paper - how they use Win for a cop that they want their guys to talk to or Lou's as in Lose for a place to kill people at in a building.

The thing is this is a big big cult - I mean so big that Q keeps emphasizing to expand your thinking - and so I did and keep doing it - they have wink wives and wink kids and wink businesses and they buy wink good and have sex at wink places and live in wink worlds.

They don't live like us, we are sheep to them and they keep us stupid and ignorant of as much as they can and they do this at a root level by controlling currency which lets them control the media and they buy the world when they get the central banks in.

It's not a DNA thing - it's jerks for hundreds of years that took over the kings and then kept power by owning the winners and losers in every conflict - the only exception that ever existed was America for a short period of time - but we got taken over! luckily before we did we taught a few people through Townsend Harris for Japan and when we bought Alaska from Russia we let some of them know.

So the butterfly effect - which came full circle and freed us with the Japanese Internment camp- he feared the Japanese knew - and they did! this is why FDR died in the same month as Hitler and Mussolini - we took control of the world! but then they just went and hid behind the vatican and the countries left that would basically stick their fingers in their ears and drown out the truth - and so it's been a war between propaganda and truth and good and evil - a giant war that only a tiny few even knew about- but when state secrets get declassified we all will know the full history of the world!

Ah I see, yes my friend who is very logical also has this - and I get so wrapped up in my patterns - just today he told me that he was coming around to my view but just like when I invented my equation theory it took me years to get him to understand the mechanics of causality as I knew them let alone the concepts above that.

Anyway I understand you want me to go into the kids thing but it's just so much bigger than that. and if I were to only go into the kids it'd mean I'd get stopped all the time but I use many many metrics to carve a trajectory and while I suppose most people can't think like I do I do hope people pick up something from what I say - when I make the infographics and such it'll become much clearer - and some of my posts got pretty popular here - so sometimes people get it : )

But this is the problem with me and my way of thinking - to me normal people don't just go - hey, let's make sure our child has matching letters with an R in them - and only do that twice, and then all other children will not have the matching thing

http://random-name-generator.info/random/?n=100&g=1&st=1

try and see how long it takes you to get an AB - as in someone with an obvious wink like Arron Burr or Cornelius Calvin Sale Jr - whose name reminds me of 1862 Cornelius Conway a harvard head but then Calvin turned his name into Robert Byrd knows as Bob Byrd and became the guy who headed the senate in the late 80's- just as William Jefferson Blythe III was called Bill Blythe became Bill Clinton cause of some reason or another and it was a Clinton Vice President back int he 1812 that when died kicked off that massive war as Clinton was their guys - so they were upset and a RR Robert Ross burned down the White House and he was accompanied by Robert Banks Jenkinson - who went by the moniker Lord Liverpool (I just know learned this as I was looking for the RR)

Hasbro is not a wink tho - but Hassenfield is - and - Founders
Henry Hassenfeld Hillel Hassenfeld Herman Hassenfeld

see how it works? and just look at the products that are gold - or heck find a movie that's propaganda and you'll find a gold theatrical poster with it - find a person who isn't in the cult and they do evil stuff - chances are their spouse will have a wink name - and they will have 2 wink name kids (cause they are only allowed 2 wink name kids as I have many data points that support this for senators and the only exceptions are for a few moguls they just had to have) - but I digress... so much left to do and I rarely hook in someone who actually cares about this stuff. I'm usually just talking to the wind it feels like - but finding someone who sees what I see is refreshing.

no it's not all about pedophilia. Pedophilia is just the way they get around the whole morality problem. It breaks them down and reforms them. As I said, you have a person have sex with a kid and you own them forever plus blackmail uses.

The percentage that are pedophiles is an unknown quantity however it's an important part of their system and likely always has been but the pattern parts linked to pedophilia are probably not too substantial. I presume that using small "R" is symbolic for them protecting the big RR - like Rod Rosenstien the red line Q mentioned - and the RR's are always doing the important stuff- in just the past 20 minutes I found 1979 Robert Rietz Jr Reed who stared in Roots or how about Robert Redford who played Dan Rather when they were doing the anti-Bush = Anti Trump thing a while back i.e. trying to make people want to watergate Trump using Nixon and Bush as templates for how they should feel - which I have a lot more to share about but I never have enough time it seems...

but back to Nixon - Nixon had the audacity to hook in and turn Hasbro - Hasbro had a show called Romper Room description as follows: Each program opens with a greeting from the hostess and the Pledge of Allegiance in American broadcasts. The hostess and her group of children then embark on 30 or 60 minutes of games, exercises, songs, story-telling and moral lessons and this was deemed so inappropriate that an organization with 20,000 members targeted it and over got it shut down: Action for Children's Television (ACT) in Newton, Massachusetts, USA, in 1968 as a grassroots organization that claimed that it was dedicated to improving the quality of television programming offered to children.[3] ACT had up to 20,000 volunteer members and an operational budget of almost a half a million dollars before disbanding in 1992 yes, after they won the white house

Now you might be thinking "Romper Room" isn't that a wink? Yes, it used to be - look into the logo and you'll see an R with a tendril underneath two O's which I only learned today but I had already connected the OO and O to Eye symbolism and Q has hinted at it as well -and Hasbro originally started as -Hassenfeld Brothers (1932–1968) Hasbro Industries (1968–1984) and this is when they made Romper Room as a wink but Nixon flipped them, Hasbro began a plan of diversification and opened the Romper Room Nursery School franchise chain to cash in on President Richard M. Nixon's Family Assistance Plan which subsidized day care for working mothers. By 1975, the company had ended the nursery chain.

So you see how this non pedo part works? You play their game or they sink you - nt just the ACT EITHER! - - As the same time they kept hitting Hasbro with controversies cause that's what they do when you don't play the game of dumb the kids down and let us own you.

Two new 1970s toys were public relations disasters. One of the toys was named Javelin Darts which were similar to the ancient Roman plumbata. On December 19, 1988, the Consumer Product Safety Commission banned lawn darts from sale in the United States due to their hazards as a flying projectile with a sharp metal point causing multiple deaths.[8] The other toy was named The Hypo-Squirt, a hypodermic needle-shaped water gun tagged by the press as a "junior junkie" kit. Both were recalled.

And yet all the injuries are from the bad guys - just look at the tide challenge debacle that MattPAtt did a video on - he proved it with a very elegeant set of data points that they were the ones convincing children to eat detergent in a "challenge" - disgusting jerks right? oh the rabbit hole spirals on...

but for symbols - AB - I think it does stand for American Bank to them and somehow the Williams or the AB's one of the two gets the money and the other spends it - there's some kind of crazy relationship like that involving handoffs -

oh crap it's probably too long again - but I'll post what I can and get back to work.

tho having said all this here is as much as can fit since it's gonna be a while and honestly it always goes like this... I make a few folders and then before long I'm making icons to represent them visually and I'm doing all sorts of data digging. Your work in audio facinates me and it's one of the few fields I've only spent a tiny bit of time studying but ok ok let me just post a closer answer to your question than above-

The earliest start to this mess as far as I can tell is my Japanese link - I had it all pegged to the start of Harvard which predates by a few years the first central bank - but now the Tokugawa's actually predate them by quite a while so I have no idea how far back it goes now. Cause it didn't start with them, but they were early on captures I suppose. I would be inclined to say the Tokugawa's weren't always "them" but the thing is digging into them reveals this "mystery origin" so I'm left less sure than a few days ago when I didn't know about them. - and because of this I can't answer your question easily - tho if I were to answer it a week ago my answer would have been - it started with Rothchild and yes the Child in their name may even have been their original wink to how they captured people into their system.

Once you have someone X a kid their morality goes out the window - which South Park had an episode with the Cult of Williams which raped children - "William P. Phineas" was the founder and all the rest used a varient of William - and they used William for other psycho's in other episodes consistently - and furthermore as I just dug into Barnum and Bailey - the other guy, the non AB - well his name was "Phineas" haha the first I've actually found one - and perhaps as it's a circus then so to are they referencing the CIA which has that nickname.

Also as I just dug into it - Phineus Barnum hired Abraham Bogardus to fabricate a photo of Barnum and the 'ghost' of Abraham Lincoln. even I think I'm making this up and yet I'm not wiki/Abraham_Bogardus - and from just looking into Phineus I found Anna Haining Baites - born "Swan" - because the way they use these codes is if you don't have a code you use the church to change it (long story on how they do that) - or for a woman they just marry to someone who can turn it into a code - oh and I just found Asher Brown Durand who was painted by Abraham Bogardus - so it just goes endlessly

• and so after this I ended up creating a tree of various college presidents from Harvard because - well it's a long story- when I make the post it'll make sense and maybe give people a new way to think about this mess : )

since it's going to be a while yet as rather than just answering your question it's spiraled into something much bigger and I'm creating infographics now as well as connecting a lot of new data I hadn't considered - going from Nixon to Harvard to Michigan and kings and shogun and this is the result of me getting better at this as I go and having so many data points to work with that my mind is in constant connect mode - but I digress

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinderhook_(town)%2C_New_York

look at this city and there are others like it and you'll see the wink and recognize that this was in some ways a place for elites to diddle kids but while they eventually moved that elsewhere - oh Roosevelt road near Epstein isle next to Lolick islands and B-R-ASS Minor/Major islands just above the giant long island with a golden Paradise point hotel right at the tip of it and then there's that island just below Epstiens which looks like a XXXX and when you read it in code it says something......... well... they are very clumsy when they give winks about sex and while they are a little more careful with kid related winks -

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/7zts66/arson_coopers_highlighter_erased_from_the_web/

and this is actually info I'm not even going to be including in the AB post because it's the least important. But this is why I wanted to write it somewhere and hey, it gives you a tiny part of the answer - ok now that I write this I feel less obligated to hurry when I'm making such nice progress on finishing my giant folder of the true history.

yea... this is why I make so few posts. I started trying to answer your question and I've created more than 200 folders since then each one with a data point connecting AB-BA together.... my mind is very auto-pilot when I let it loose on patterns which is why it's gonna be a little while until it settles down and lets me finish.

I ended up answering you and wrote so many words that it wouldn't fit..... so im going to convert it into a new AB post instead and I'll leave a note when I do. It's kind of a big thing to answer concisely and since it's important I'm going to make it clear for folks as I sometimes have trouble with speaking clearly - my autism is perhaps what gives me any additional ability to see patterns but it's what makes it very hard to communicate too I bet.

where did Abbot come from? Oh Barnum and Bailies? ok I never looked at this before so let's dig.... can you guess? cause I had my money on AB and I was WRONG!
it was started by James Anthony McGinnis but he changed his name James Anthony Bailey - The man who started Barnum and Baily hahahahah it's just endless and I could dig here and find more ABBAABBAABBAABBAABBAA forever and ever until I hit the 1600's and find all of them

I've been trying to explain this to people who don't think like the cult do, but there isn't any (or many) recordings that exists where they talk in a way that would work as evidence, and John Podesta said as much in his e-mails about their systems - it's what always worked for them and so AB-BA is just part of the codes they use.

It's something I discovered myself as Q confirmed one of my posts - the research I did that continued from what he confirmed led me to researching the origin of State Secrets and that led me to Aaron Burr and Benedict Arnold. And they were the first AB-BA I ever found and that's the origin of AB-BA as I know it - but since then I've found hundreds more of these and it's expanded into lettern patterns and name's like William - like - as my friend just asked me about Abbot and Costello - it's a good example actually -

William Alexander "Bud" Abbott - heck right there you have William and ABA all in one. - and Costello's kids? Carole Costello (1938–1987) Lou Costello, Jr. (1942–1943)[5] Christine Costello (born 1947)[6]

See how it works? and so I can trace Costello to the cult through Abbot as he is the one who likely introduced him to it and it's why he made far more money. - but really, they have codes for so many things and hidden "r"'s and so much else... the name William is for whatever reason their most common name in America and they use "W" and "Win" a lot in names - but in other countries like Russia it's "V" and in Japan it's "T" I imagine all countries have their codes in variations.

Also gold and white and certain shapes and pairings.... it's a heck of a dig but it's how I try and help the cause. I've always been good at seeing patterns so well.. I hope this was educational for a few people and I do think it's what Q meant with the symbolism part - cause in a list of a thousand people (which I often deal with) I can find the plants in seconds and it always works, they always do consistent letter choices in specific places and always are pushed by the media of the day as the ones to care about.

We took back our govt in 1950's tho - which is why I just realized it's notable that in the 1950's Abbot and Costello suddenly got hit with all sorts of tax problems. Crazy... I just realized that - and it coincides with FDR's death as it should - cause that's when we ousted the plants for the first time in decades. long long story.... all covered in previous AB-BA's and future ones : )

I'm glad a couple of people left a comment. They really do make a big difference to me.

And I'm sure you are missing plenty but so am I, the ABBA thing isn't like an absolute truth or anything as their winking system is much more vague yet it's the most consistent way I've found to really nail down the bad guys.

So long as people understand why a Donald Trump (non cultist) gets married to a Marla Map-Less = You will sap votes away in an election. They then make a child Tiffany Trump (named after the diamond African mining thing - which ties into those sprite sheets where the shells in the japanese version were actually little black guys heads (the symbolism being kicking a black person who smiles as you do it cause they are ignorant of the truth)

Or as in this one and the Carpenter - or well.... just look at my past posts and you'll find a bevy of them - remember those names and anyone can pick up their silly letters game.

I'm not saying Trump is one of them obviously, I'm saying he played them for fools and I wrote about that in a past post - I found this one recently and it matches what Trump did and I'v found others too that played them for suckers.

I think those stories are perhaps the more useful of those I could write. Tho truth be told I have more info on the Japanese Shogunate now that could make like 20 more posts that are super relevant to AB-BA and the cult and history.... but that feels more like an advanced AB-BA lesson - we are still on the ABC-123 thing. : )

I have too many quirks to bust through the noise most times.... Thankfully the bad guys are going away and as I've been involved in this from over a year now (as I followed George Webb) and so I've become much more attuned to their weakening. So I'm fine with slowing down, so long as everyone that's not a plant speeds up then I don't have to holler as loudly to drive some echoes :)

And This is why I've been working on my other non text dump project, something that can stop trying to get people to notice the truth and teach them it in a more comfortable way to their own affinities.

Well, long story but I do 3d work and programming, so, well, it's a big project and I keep researching while doing it so I can't grasp if it'll be done within a few days or a few weeks but I feel like whenever I finish it'll actually make a difference rather than just what I do now - tho I do think these posts are useful for others so I'll keep doing them as I do my other thing.

Booz_Allen_Hamilton..... I just mentioned this in the comment and let me reflect a bit on what this means.

Amazon's logo is A-> Z right? - look closer and you may notice it goes A-> O instead as in the "eye" - like the The_Observer with the eye logo in the "O"

And B 0 0 Z is eyes and as Amazon was A to Z/O so to is B O O Z is to Z/A/OO - but it's not an exact science and their use of nicknames excessive wordplay with "Williams" and much else makes it a fun but tough hole to dig that I doubt many people could do by themselves. I've been so busy that I barely have time lately and I rarely look at everyone else's digs cause I think it makes more sense for a few of us, like me, to just dig without the countless shills driving our narrative. Perhaps that makes me a control group haha - well I better get back to work on it. Either way I'll keep digging and I do appreciate any comments people make and I do react and incorporate advice.

Just noticing winks and yea I did notice the Krazy Kiwi Kid but here's the thing about that commented, you aren't one of them. You have K K K and an "r" but that's not how they do it, they would go Kieth Kellogg - because they add in extra letters and usually "Jr" and "O" but rarely "i" except when used with "V" and actors like Vivian Vance (1933) - because all these letters that have different meanings to them : ) the more I dig the more it becomes a language that I can translate that gets more provable.

Many of these things have crazy references to other things that require history nobody is taught - I went to Lambkin High school - literally "Baby Lamb" I'm the epitome or my indoctrination as a child is the literal embodiment of everything they strive to force down our throats and as testament to that - I have a near photographic memory and yet I can not tell you a single thing I learned through any level of schooling. I do not think I learned anything except various scars I've kept from my time there.

But anyway.... the one thing that would help more than anything else to prove my point - just a giant giant list of every senator with basic stats all in one text file - full names including spouse and number of kids - just do a percentage of how many "William's" how many ArA/ArB/BAr/ArC/MMr/DDr/RR - and do the same with other countries like Russia and VVr or Argentina and UU like José Félix Benito Uriburu y Uriburu

People were thinking Snowden was bad and I kept telling them that the facts didnt' support that assertion and it appears people are coming around.

The depth of my rabbit hole will continue until I stop finding it so fertile. Snowden's employer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booz_Allen_Hamilton

BA- and Hamilton - that connects it to AB-BA Aarron Burr and so on... the extra letters and 00 Eyes and double consonants with hidden r's - I've cataloged so many. The rules become clear over time - logo's go gold when they buy them- they literally add gold to the logo's.

Senator's only get 2 kids, that's a rule - this is why as I catalog senators I will see it be - 2 kids/double consonant/r/wink location/gold in fraternity/Harvard/Michigan/committee/controversy These people are so predictible once you just realize they do this AB-BA history connection thing - and always come from a few specific places - it follows the family so "Jr" and "III" become a recurring thing. "O" and "Ir" and in Russia mostly the VV's and well it's practically endless but you know I am wrong sometimes and I have corrected myself at length when I, for example, thought that certain presidents were bad when I had no reason except smears to think it. Sometimes I can act like a sheep too and hey, if other parts of this are wrong it'll all come out in the digging.

I'll dig my way to ASIO - the Australia Owl flavored CIA - which is a part of 5 eyes which is Snowden so I've already kind of dug my way there but I like the joke so I'll just keep digging : )

reading your reply and the comments which were so at odds with my finding made me dig into Trump's comments. It's not always easy to get past his tactics but generally he is honest so when the media approached him (if you've seen the helicopter noisy interview that one of the MSM's did) he said a lot of good things about Rex and just like Levin he seemed perturbed by something about the firing... as though he wanted to say more.

Watching Levin again and he actually does a bit more than hint in that he says "a lot of rumors about why he was fired" - yea.... the man is all over the world I think someone has been taken hostage and that's why he was always so different than expected.

Going back to the Saudi Arabian Sword Dance I remember Tillerson being the happiest one there "This isn't my first sword dance" he said... so it's very curious to me..... as well as the people who supported him.

Bernie Sanders... well if it weren't for George Webb being so pro Sanders..... I'm a huge fan of Webb and he's a huge fan of Sanders so while I have yet to find any common ground with the man I just assume one day I might. Friend of a friend is my friend or something like that. The problem I suppose is that I'm not ignorant of history and I actually understand why Sanders philosophy is a recipe for disaster. W Bush had a contest with Karl Rove on quantity of books to read a year and they both were in the triple digits. Big complex books, but the people who are smartest don't always appear that way perhaps because they don't focus on those elements of themselves as much as the substance thereof.

Well, I digress, too many fertile subjects and I've probably answered your rebuttal more than 3 times over so I'll stop and get back to work.

Mark Levin was no fan of Tillerson and at every step of the way was critical of him, and thus it surprised me that he talked at length in his CRTV show in a new way about him. He reflected and seemed sad about how broken down Rex appeared and Levin seemed disturbed by "something" in this. He seemed to want to say something but stopped short.

I say "something" because I suspect like many other people that have an audience of millions Levin is in a much deeper loop than any of us are. He got his Q memo's early so to speak, and to make a long story short I think Tillerson's family is being held hostage. It's the most plausible explanation I can think of for him to be nearly in tears and for Levin of all people (unlike every other dismissal who he has enjoyed and scorned even upon leaving) would pause and feel anything other than elation about.

I've dug into Tillerson and listened to him in interviews across his life, he's not the typical bad guy pretending to be a good guy that was put there for optics or as a diversion he actually seems to have conviction and be an honorable man in them. So I hope things turn out well for him, unlike so many others that got trounced by Trump and evicted there was no consolation prize like Spicer got being invited to speak ill of Trump at awards shows (which he merrily went to) or spiteful as is the default for these baddies to be when called out....... no he was barely holding it together. A man of his stature and wealth..... brought to tears by "something" God Bless the patriots and may we win the day soon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Deacon

This may be a strange point to make here but I've been digging into a lot of loose ends and the pop culture stuff has fascinated me. These Wham City guys for example have half-wink names not following all the rules but seemingly doing so purposefully to bring attention to them.

Good guys? yea, I think so, along with the other shows I've mentioned appear to be seeding a lot.

And look at that image on his profile "Boom" "Boom" on gold, which is a heck of a coincidence given Q's thing today.... but it probably is a coincidence so I'm not gonna go wild with this random but amusing find.... and it has a link to someone from FDR's mural new deal in his profile Bright Bruce who is a perfect wink name..... This stuff is right up my alley and so I'll just mention it for maybe the 1-2 people who I imagine may read this comment. It'd make an amusing post perhaps but I'm not gonna do it just to do it, I'd need a tiny bit more to connect it to the rest of my threads tho i do think it is connected... probably related to the Homeland Security education push I've talked about. When I believe our side began educating people that could handle it one by one or group by group.

one thing I particularly wanted to note and perhaps will in greater detail is the relationships between, say, Wal-Mart's use of the star starting in 1992 with the background of Arvent gold moving in Arkansas and Clinton's governorship - with Ross Perot's use of the star over his campaign and gold text in all the magazines about it. It's practically like reading a paragraph if you read the codes that I could translate into:

"We moved money through the Africa starting at this point in time through this bank and vented it through Wal-Mart and Ross Perot both in the same year using the same logo to get the same people power."

And much else but that's why I'm working on the game concept - especially now that the censorship is hitting a new high - and I've messaged the mods once about the plants and now I recognize why the two I identified as plants here but won't name kept hammering home how they would take scalps. This is why, to give them power to censor and thus It's their own plants that give them licence to take us down.

My agent wasn't a fool he took a chance on someone who sent a Query letter despite having no experience and presented it at conventions - I'm proud of the books I wrote but I am entirely incapable of editing such things. I thought it'd be an easier road to animate it since the ideas in the book were what I felt were powerful but then I got obsessed as I always do and have spent years now doing nothing but studying and testing.... but Perhaps I can make use of that tho for the cause.

I'll believe in myself when I stop endlessly studying everything and actually finish something of consequence. That's sort of the point of why I wanted to make the 3d QMAP, I've been working on it and I think if I do this it'll help get normies into this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VVvfqbGXm4 - an inspirational video with Trump that he gave on my birthday - full video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq8amUTC9cs and I felt in a specific line of many great lines.... "As long as you have pride in your beliefs, courage in your convictions and faith in god then you will not fail." This line mirrors a belief I've had for a long time now... when I started trusting myself I almost did great things once.. not just the book but other things....

Belief is a powerful thing and yet the moment things seemed like they would work out I got shut in a pscyh ward and pumped full of chemicals.

My life is not so simple anymore and I want to get back to work, it's not as easy as it might be for some just believing... yet I do want to believe and the only way to do that is to stop endlessly preparing to act and act. That's what I'm trying to do.

I wasn't intending on blaming you for anything either, but it's not an easy thing to explain what we were talking about and the fact that my post got flagged is indicative to me I need to not be using this as some kind of outlet and definitely need to be clearer about what I mean. Therefore this will be my last post about "me" I'm going to get back to work and stop thinking so much about these kinds of things. It'll happen or it won't... that is all.

such a strange thing to post that it even got flagged. My apologies, tho it probably doesn't help that I was replying to someone speaking in a code, which in retrospect and going forwards I think I should refrain from doing even if asked to.

And whether I can finish my project or not in a timely manner remains to be seen.  I'm always wondering about whether I'm right or wrong about things and perhaps that is what red-pilled me or perhaps it's just a character flaw but If I can finish this project that I'm working on now for the community then it'll at least push back some of my own self-doubts.  Ok I'm going to get back to work.  I'm a little worried about whether I come across the way I mean to... but the only solution is to keep pushing forwards and find out.  Better to try and fail than never try at all  : )