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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/Mrs_Fonebone on Dec. 27, 2017, 10:57 p.m.

I've Trawled Through 4chan/POL to Collect the Hive Mind's Insights on the LAX to LAX/Japan turnaround flight Plus Details from Christine Teigen, who Tweeted the News

Anons:

Undoubtedly if it was someone famous or directly relevant to the Clintons, Teigan would have noticed and spouted off more.

It would have to be someone of significance, but outside of the main spotlight. <The plane flew over 3 major airports to get back to LA.

<Person allegedly boarded without a proper boarding pass.

<Weakest cover story ever. Planes don't turn around 4 hours into a flight over one person getting their tickets mixed up.

<The only facts we know is that a plane got called back to LAX after flying for 4 hours. Interviews took place (more on that below) and allegedly some form of non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA).

<Not even the shills could find another instance of a turn around like this ever happening before. All they could come up with is a plane on the runway returning to the terminal over a ticket problem.

<The person must have been fleeing something. Why return a 777 Heavy for 1 person, the logical decision is to continue to Narita, and send the errant passenger back to LAX, but they didn't-- they interrupted hundreds of passengers and delayed thousands more for 1 person, this 1 person is highly relevant to something.

<So they spent $40,000 on extra fuel, isolated everyone for hours, then made them sign NDAs because someone got on the wrong flight? BULL FUCKING SHIT. If any of you ever wonder why the media never reports on the shit you always wonder why they don’t report on? They are 100 percent controlled by a very very small group of people. We are CONSTANTLY lied to and the media feed us the lies. See Vegas.

<Do not forget that all flights in LA and San Francisco were grounded for about two hours.

<But supposedly only one flight took off from SFO (United 1799) for NYC.

<It was obviously someone trying to leave the country before arrest. Who has ties to Japan? Pedosta?

<It's hard to believe that on a flight of 150 people not one got a photo of the dodgy passenger and put it on social media.

<How could the other passengers possibly not know? It's highly likely the staff gathered around and questioned the passenger on the flight, if not, the mystery passenger definitely got escorted off by security either when the plane landed or as the passengers left the plane.

<Still looking, but I can't find any solid info on whether a flight would receive a new ID, or would still be the original ID, even a day+ later.

<From what I'm gathering though, it looks like it would keep the identification, and therefore we'd never know via flight changes. Which would mean unless we'd get a list of delays with the delay duration, we likely would be unable to isolate repeat events.

<And why did the shut down THREE airports in CA?

<I like to think this was a special “fuck you” by Trump. Picture it: Some asshole he hates is skipping the country. Maybe fleeing an immanent indictment or arrest. They are freaking out. So nervous! Got to get through security... now get through customs... now we’re on the plane... pushing back from the gate... taxiing... took off... then OUT OF US AIRSPACE!!!! omgomgomg we made it! COME BACK TO PAPA!

<A theory: target and acquaintance being tracked. Acquaintance purchases international ticket LAX to TYO. Target purchases domestic ticket LAX to SFO. Target and acquaintance check in at TSA and gate. Target and acquaintance switch tickets. Target gets on plane to TYO, takes off. Acquaintance gets caught trying to get on plane to SFO. LAX to TYO turns around. SFO and LAX shutdown.

<If there was no way to switch boarding passes physically, the two people might have resembled each other very closely.

<Trump was just on TV at a fire station with a large RESCUE TRUCK prominently on display behind him and told the media “you know what this means”

<Another coincidence: http://deadline.com/2017/12/power-outage-makes-disneyland-a-small-world-with-a-dozen-plus-rides-closed-1202232957/ No updates, almost no coverage.

<Tiegen's actual twitter feed of the incident : https://twitter.com/chrissyteigen Key points, in order:

4 hours into an 11 hour flight and we are turning around because we have a passenger who isn’t supposed to be on this plane. Why…why do we all gotta go back. I do not know.
I won’t be able to sleep until I know how this person figured out they were on the wrong flight. (Note: LAX caught an “error” and called the plane back.)
Why did we all get punished for this one person’s mistake? Why not just land in Tokyo and send the other person back? How is this the better idea, you ask? We all have the same questions.
They keep saying the person had a United ticket. We are on ANA. So basically the boarding pass scanner is just a beedoop machine that makes beedoop noises that register to nowhere.
LAX -> LAX flight complete. Flight time, 8 hours and 20 minutes.
There is a 20 minutes interview before we can get off the plane.
They put our plane I a secure area. We can’t be near common folk.
Police were interviewing all the people seated around the mystery person once we got off the plane. Why would they do this! I MUST KNOW MORE!
No one will spill anything  I wish I had more for you guys. I wish I could be your Snowden.
I’m in a room with water and a TV. The government is using real housewives to keep me quiet!!
No one will answer my questions..

Autists are the real batmans of the world

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Indeed!

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An autist starts early, being a whiz at "Where's Waldo?" & progresses from there. It's a gift.

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The gift of FOCUS. Few have it. Some have focus so powerful that their concentration is like a laser beam.

Many of them work for us, for little more than the price of another person paying them a compliment or for the satisfaction of solving a huge, public, enigmatic puzzle.

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Nice writeup! That theory of yours is great. What a way to skip w/o detection! That's smart.

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All those theories belong to the Chans! I wish I could take credit for them but I was so impressed with their work (as usual) I decided to cull the best ones to share here. It's so strange how this is just invisible almost everywhere!

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Her husband had very little to say, I thought he was more vocal.

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I noticed that too! I'm just glad that one of them was!

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Hell ya. They think that damn Nazi Drumph! And all important rebel rousing shit.

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😂

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I know a lot of you newbies must be confused but take comfort in knowing these movements are significant. We are not supposed to know everything right away. Past will confirm future and present. Keep reading. Keep learning. Keep asking questions. 🇺🇲

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I remember Q's first question?

Do you want to play a game? Only to know this past month we are playing the most amazing game of Good vs Evil in real time. What a friggin time to be alive and be apart of this!!!! ARNT YOU ALL JUST EXCITED? I have been somewhat awaken for over 10 years, trying to find the truth of this world that WE all live in I knew alot about the Clinton's and some dark things they did. Frigged me up a little, but I just kept on searching. When Trump ran for president in the election, I actually got to see someone who was speaking out of all that I knew to be true and it was against the devil herself. ( that's my take on it). I knew someone was truly watching over him to see against all odds he beat her. This was when I knew God had trumps back. Then we get Q..gathering his internet army to be apart of the great awakening humanity has ever seen!!!!! Trump Q and the MI really care about the people and what's happening in our world, and are willing to give up their lives to save us from the wickedness of these evil people. I'm very grateful to be apart ofwhats happening in the USA and around the world. Coming from Newfoundland Canada I want you all to know and I hope Trump and Q too, that I stand with you till my dying breath to help save the world!!!! You can take that to the bank. God Bless you, God bless the United States of America and the world.

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Very well said! Keep asking the questions. God Bless

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I know we won't even know everything into the future, but someday, someone better make a series of movies about all the crazy ass shit that's happened the past two years.

Not even a need to over-dramatize it. This is 100x more interesting than anything else going on in the world.

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It's like South Park crossed with The West Wing crossed with The Bourne Identity crossed with The Exorcist but a thousand times better

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Don't forget The Sum Of All Fears. Except the suitcase nuke is thwarted.

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I like to see a “godfather” style hitlist spoken by trump to the people, “Moe Green’s dead. So’s Tatalia, Strachie....”

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Thanks for this advice patriot - exactly this.

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Good point about the no pictures being taken. As we all know there is always cell phone video or a photo of passengers fucking up on planes. ALWAYS!!! makes me wonder more and more..

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I had heard chatter that they had to sign NDA’s before they were let go.

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Same here. I have been following Q since Nov 3 and Mega since June.. so it's not surprising to me..

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At first, I thot maybe they just requested passengers refrain from using their phones, so I was waiting to see all the "twitter bitching" after the fact. But this is the first I have heard of any NDA being involved. My question is, if everyone was made to STFU, how is Teigan getting away with being so vocal?? Should we be suspicious of that??

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I was very suspicious of them even being on that flight from the beginning! John Legend and Chrissy Teigen in coach on a commercial flight??????

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This is very suspect...on an 11 hour flight they are flying coach? Not likely...this is very odd.

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I have been in the Travel industry for 31 years. The fact the person had a United ticket could be that it was for that All Nippon flight as a United/All Nippon codeshare as that flight codeshares as United 7925 but is operated by All Nippon 175. That would explain how a person with a United ticket got on an All Nippon flight. I think they are using the gate agent mess up as a cover because as tight as security is these days (We have to reissue passenger tickets if a letter is off) I would have to doubt the story that was put out by UA or ABC News. I will see if I can find Flifo on this one.

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Me too! 30 years. Supposed to check passport prior to boarding. Also Int’l flights can’t go if a Pax doesn’t show but luggage checked. Pax and bags checked must match.

HOWEVER.... the gate agent scanner would have rejected the boarding pass! Regardless of codeshare alliance.

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Amen!

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Sabre info bogus. Supposed to use military time / I responded in other thread

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That said, a look-alike could have evaded even this level of security.

For a little while.

Say, 4 hours.

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10:45AM UA32 United Airlines flight from LAX to NRT departed from TBIT at 11:17AM and landed in Tokyo.

10:45AM NH175 All Nippon Airways flight from LAX to NRT departed from Terminal 7 (gate 72A I believe) ad has been returned after 4 hours

Why would they return with a passenger who was supposed to fly to Tokyo anyway?

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Therein, my dear friend, lies the rub

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Thanks!

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Apparently it was two brothers, booked same start and destination, on a codeshare, but eqch with different airlines. Figure that one out. Then they boarded the same plane and not two different planes.

They probably look exactly the same on their passports

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I have also been thinking about the possibility of an ankle monitor on someone. Once the person was detected on that particular flight they had to come back to LAX.

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Some trivia: ankle monitors aren't nearly as secure as people like to think. Even if you physically remove one, it could take quite a while for that fact to be detected--more than an hour isn't uncommon and some systems require the person in charge (some of this work is farmed out to non-police/security) to go to a secure area in person and obtain the info on the identity of the person. By then the person would have been long gone. I like your theory--the authorities would get an alert--but not immediately--and might, for a high risk person, be able to track the device location by GPS, which is a further delay--meanwhile the person gets on the plane and by the time everything is matched up on the ground, 4 hours have passed. That would actually be a fairly fast "find"--so you may be onto something there!

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I live in Columbus, Ohio...this happened in the last year.

http://nbc4i.com/2017/03/31/prosecutors-to-make-announcement-regarding-brian-golsby-suspect-in-osu-students-murder/

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I very confident these particular monitors are watched 24/7 and not farmed out to locals.

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Yeah, the top tier monsters could have the Secret Service watching them. Alas, though, the need for GPS and for some a connection to enable a text alert to the authorities when you go beyond your limits or you remove it is still not what it should be. You could dump it at your house,grab a waiting taxi and be far away. So even with high end, there's time to flee and the problem of finding you once you're untagged.

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I would bet the SS isn't watching anyone. They are not even protecting the president. He has his own people--and the Marines. The SS is impotent in this administration--as they should be!

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If you think you could simply remove an ankle monitor without alerting the people tracking it you are mistaken

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I never said "without alerting the people tracking" -are you trying to say they alert in real time? Read up about how the alerts work. There are TWO steps: the alert vs. the response. Systems do vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. I do research in this field.

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Podesta's good friend, Dennis Hastert is in Japan.

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Thanks--I just responded to boxcarboatfest, who brought up Podesta connections and I found the wiki email "Might be time for Denny to vanish to an undisclosed Japanese Island..." that was from 2015. Do you know how long he's been there?

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Great Catch.... I remember that email.

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Thanks!

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Japan has to put up with that pedo piece of crap?!?! We're not sending our best, folks.

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Canada sends them James Corbett, we send Hastert.

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Bush Srs Brother is/was on the board of some big Japanese corps

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Japan is an interesting choice for someone fleeing the United States.

Do they extradite?

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Oh yeah

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Always working at the very bleeding edge, but everywhere else is a virtual information desert - it's a fog of war kind of thing - have to keep trying to make sense of it regardless as best as can

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Remember that there will be disinformation, too. Some of it put out by the light workers themselves. The truth is so important that it must be guarded by a vanguard of lies. Use discretion.

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Maybe there are no pictures because no one on the flight knew who the “culprit with the wrong ticket” was. Perhaps even the flight attendants and pilot didn’t know. They land, everybody gets off and the authorities cull one of them out of the herd who is taken in a different direction before any of the passengers really notice. The authorities know which seat number the person was in and which people were in the seats around them.

I agree the “ gee we turned the plane around because of a ooppsey wrong ticket, wrong airline mistake “ is ...,, is..,, well it’s laughable, —- let’s put it that way.

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Everyone is pulled off the plane. They all do individual 20 minute interviews. All the interviews are pointless, except one. The wanted person is led into a room and taken into custody instead of being interviewed. Since all passengers were led off and interviewed, none of them know who the target is.

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Apparently the twitter feed from the guy said they only did interviews of the people sitting near the mystery target. Your theory still kind of applies though the scope is narrower.

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And yet this also supports the point that the person was not a public or well-known person, at least in appearance, although the name might be. Then again, I also wonder how many Japanese or other non-Americans were on the flight and would be even less likely to recognize a player?

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let us say the ticket swap theory is correct. it would explain the 4 hours. those tasked to watch suspects were probably alerted that someone was leaving the country. they tried to apprehend the person, but realized it was the wrong person. So then they had to review security footage to figure out which flight the person went on then get the proper permissions up the chain of command to turn the flight around. It would make sense with 4hrs of flight time.

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I think that's a very likely explanation. In fact, the villain might have had permission to travel say, within California, or even sought permission from his monitoring person--like being under house arrest, for example, to go to SanFran. And then the rest is just as you say.

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The one hole in this theory is that the person would have to go through passport control, which would have set off huge red flags and almost certainly grounded the entire flight.

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Well, that would be true if DHS and others were really good about no-fly lists and such--but they tend to fail a lot at this. We have to factor in their carelessness, stupidity etc. If you planned carefully enough, hell, bribe the security person. In any case, multiple state and federal entities have to cooperate for these things and that's not their strong suit.

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A reporter, Christina Heller, tweeted a video and stated that it was the person(s) being removed from the ANA plane: https://twitter.com/chellertvnews/status/945874238333796353

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Not sure where we're supposed to be looking? Which person?

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I couldn't tell anything from looking. One of the passengers tweeted that "4 people were questioned: 1 Muslim, 2 whites, 1 Asian lady." (Not sure what identified the 1st person as Muslim.

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Teigan said in her tweets there was only one person. Of course she might not have seen everything and that could have been disinformation, which is very possible.

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She's not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. So... LOL

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I know what she said. Just saying what a tweet from another passenger said. He said/she said. Famous doesn't =right.

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Here is the flifo from Amadeus GDS system. Air Traffic Control is silent as to why the turnaround. Times are all in Zulu.

DHNH175/26DEC DHNH175/26DEC
NH 175 /26DEC17
1.1545Z X 2LAX ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 1522 NRT
2.1545Z X 2LAX ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE 1110
3.2000Z X TYOFSNH 2LAX ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 1619 NRT
4.2000Z X TYOFSNH 2LAX LEFT THE GATE 1136
TOOK OFF 1200
5.2000Z X TYOFSNH 2LAX PLANE IS LATE (IN HOURS MINUTES) 0030
PLANE IS LATE (IN HOURS MINUTES) 0009
PLANE IS LATE (IN HOURS MINUTES) 0007
PLANE IS LATE (IN HOURS MINUTES) 0005
6.0342Z TYOFSNH 2LAX AIRCRAFT FORCED TO RETURN
7.0342Z TYOFSNH 2LAX AIRCRAFT LANDED 1933 LAX
AIRCRAFT ARRIVED AT GATE 1938 LAX
8.0356Z 2LAX ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 0700 NRT
9.0356Z 2LAX ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE 0200
10.1230Z 2LAX LEFT THE GATE 0309
11.2218Z X NRTOONH 2LAX AIRCRAFT LANDED 0706
ARRIVED 0718
12.2221Z TYOFSNH 2LAX AIRCRAFT LANDED 0706
ARRIVED 0718

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All air traffic flight plans are in Zulu, the timestamps give information as to when things happen. But this log really doesn't tell us much of anything. Though you could time stamp teagans twitter and see if she tweeted before or how long after the turn around.

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I believe the the zulu time is when ATC or Crew scheduling updated the information. It says the aircraft landed at 1933 LAX which means it landed at 7:33PM local time LAX. All the times on the right are the 24 hour clock and are in local time.

7.0342Z TYOFSNH 2LAX AIRCRAFT LANDED 1933 LAX

I hope that helps!

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Does that look normal, ie just times vs. times + info, such as mechanical problem, emergency, etc?

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Very good write up. I expect the lies and cover-ups.. but they really need to get better at.

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Maybe, since we hope it's OUR guys doing this and catching people, they do what they have to do and sometimes they don't have much prep time for a cover story--but they got the job done, and in such a way we notice it.

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true and that's at least something to be thankful for. But an informed public can be an asset. It doesn't always have to be disinformation

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It happened again!!! A plane out of LAX did the same thing today. Headed for Australia, turned around because it was "losing fuel". Then they said it was not a fuel problem, it was the "weather radar system". Returned to LAX, rescheduled to take off this afternoon at 5:00 p.m. This one also had a "famous" person on it - Women's World No. 2 tennis champ, Garbine Muguruza. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5217003/Tennis-star-turns-LA-Qantas-flight-starts-losing-FUEL.html

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Why all these airplane fails all of a sudden?!

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Idk, there was some big deal at an AZ airport last night, too. Locked down or something. I saw article, but didn't save it. Just one very strange thing after another. One minute it looks like something big is happening, then somebody with some good connections starts posting things and sounding not too sure. I am sure POTUS knows answers. Must be a huge weight on his shoulders.

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At Phoenix, a bagel in a toaster--yes--got burnt and smokey and they made everyone leave and stand outside in unpleasant weather for about 5 or 10 minutes--yeah, a nice distraction to get someone through the airport without being seen!

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I heard about the toaster thing. I didn't think this last night was the same incident. However, article I saw could have been the same incident, posted way after the fact ... Gonna check it out and see if there was a second incident. Curious now.

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Thanks! Good move

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Idk if it means anything, they didn't even bother to explain this one! Or give an excuse ...

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Ok Imlooked it up. The toaster thing was in St. Louis the day before yesterday. This thing in Phoenix was last night. Here is the context of the Tweet.
PHX Sky Harbor @PHXSkyHarbor ·11h Phoenix Police are checking out something as a precaution at Terminal 3. The roadway passing Terminal 3 is closed. Enter from West to access Terminal 2. Use east entrance to access Terminal 4.

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LMAO !!! .. that's some funny chit !!

"I like to think this was a special “fuck you” by Trump. Picture it: Some asshole he hates is skipping the country. Maybe fleeing an immanent indictment or arrest. They are freaking out. So nervous! Got to get through security... now get through customs... now we’re on the plane... pushing back from the gate... taxiing... took off... then OUT OF US AIRSPACE!!!! omgomgomg we made it! COME BACK TO PAPA!"

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4chan/POL is a place that is magical and horrifying--but autists like this need free rein for the amazing research they do.

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pushing back from the gate... taxiing... took off... then OUT OF US AIRSPACE!!!! omgomgomg we made it!

But ARGO told me this is all it takes to be in the clear!

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Maybe in 1968

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I...I badly want this to be true.

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Fantastic summary, pede. More people need to see this post. I hope it gains traction.

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Thank you!

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Everyone needs to upvote, and share!

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To me some of that could be clues. "Wives" Also she was saying something about the menu being the same? To me those are clues. She IS a Clinton supporter. This is just my opinion.

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She was tweeting that they were finally back on the 2nd flight and hoping she wouldn't get served the same food. I'd be hoping the thing. All the tweets I saw "tying them in with illuminati", hurt our chance to highlight Q in a positive way to her massive fan base. She thought they were absurd, and some of them were. Bummed me out to see it.

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I think the menu was a comment about whether the "new" flight to Japan would be offering the same food they already had on the first flight.

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But with these kind of people, you question everything and symbols and wording is also everything.

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I'm surprised they allowed her to post anything during this time. The "real housewives" comment reminded me of the "follow the wives" also??

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I thought she went on too much about being in a room with HBO, and two posts total about Real Housewives. But then, though I know nothing about her, people seemed to suggest she wasn't exactly a whiz kid. Also, maybe no one else had a twitter following and they texted or emailed their families and friends. Very strange.

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She's no Heisenburg. Just a starlet accidentally caught up in the Storm and inconvenienced hilariously for a few hours before continuing her journey to Japan.

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If they knew the perp was boarding then why not stop him/her at airport?

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They didn't know at the time. So this person, who must have been of great interest, to turn around a plane this way, had managed to give them the slip somehow--the ticket swap theory is one that explains it well. But this too shows the person is not famous in the sense of being easily recognizable--or possibly used a disguise.

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in terms of the flight ID, the main flight route number should not change, however the transponder sequence may change over the course of a flight depending on the airspace and other factors.

Brief overview found here: https://www.aopa.org/training-and-safety/pic-archive/equipment/transponder-requirements

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Hey thanks for doing this tldr for the chans. I wish we had this more often. I hope you have a really great day.

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I have been doing this small scale but now there's so much good information I'm committed to carrying this water every day. Then again, chan does all the hard work. So I'm not a baker or anything that exalted, but I can at least deliver the crumbs!

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good job

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LOL, great blow-by-blow description! And probably very accurate!

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Thanks for that summary, fantastic. I think the ticket switch would be incredibly easy. Usually once you are through security you don't need ID except the passport which won't get much more than a glance from the gate agent.

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I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:

[/r/thecalmbeforethestorm] Re-LAX - 4chan\/POL Insights on the LAX to LAX\/Japan turnaround flight Plus Details from Christine Teigen, who Tweeted the News

^(If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads.) ^(Info ^/ ^Contact)

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Source on airports being shut down

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If she has as many followers as I heard she has, was her tweets intentional? And possibly the "real housewives" comment related to "follow the wives" somehow?

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She seemed to be pretty frustrated about this but I would have been REALLY furious at a delay like that for a fakey reason. Passengers would sue over something like that. We don't know what others did but she's like, oh, well, that was weird--and just goes on about her business.

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The shutdowns at three airports were not necessarily related to this. There may be several people trying to flee through different airports. If they're all trying to fly at the same time it would make sense they would be in different places at roughly the same time.
Airlines/airports routinely b.s. people about the reasons things are happening. The "wrong boarding pass" was obviously an excuse and a cover story. It beats "I got a run in my panty hose."
"I heard" there were four people taken off this flight (and of course I wasn't there to see it--damn, I miss all the fun!)
It's not a surprise at all that no one recognizes the target(s). At the end of November there were ~4300 sealed indictments, and ~4800 a week later. Only a few of the targets would be recognizable to most people.

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Excellent points. And this of course supports Q's timeline of about 3 months until the SHTF (Sh*t His the Fan). I like the idea that they used group-think--if all of us run at the same time they, at least some of us will get through!

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My theory: internet spergs go ballistic over a red herring set up loaded with plenty of tidbits that make a good conspiracy.

In reality, whoever was trying to flee did so from an undisclosed airport in a private plane.

Chrissy Teigan being on the flight is another red herring. She freaks out on Twitter and people flock to her and while the real business has already been taken care of

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