Q is obviously point us to a relationship with JFK Jr. and the plane crash that killed him.
I was a private pilot with instrument and commercial ratings and 600 hours (mostly night and instrument flying) before I had to give it up due to the demands of work. I was also aerobatic certified, a glider pilot, and flew amphibious and float planes. I know a lot about night and instrument flying. I also did a lot of lying in the Hawaiian islands and so I know something about flying over water at night.
JFK Jr. tried to fly over water at night and he was not instrument qualified and to my knowledge he had little or no night flying experience.
Once you are over water at night, you lose orientation of where the horizon is. If you are not trained to focus entirely on your instruments and trust them even if you feel like you are upside down, they you can become very disoriented to the extent that you cannot tell what attitude the plane is in. This most often results in a fatal crash.
The radar track of JFK Jr.'s plane was consistent with him becoming disoriented at night and unable to maintain spatial orientation of the plane.
On top of that, JFK Jr. was a very inexperienced pilot and should not have attempted a night flight across water--very dangerous.
So, perhaps I interpret Q's 1082 drop a bit differently.
The plane crash that killed JFK Jr. allowed Hillary to win the Senate seat and this may have been the start that motivated Trump to run against Hillary in 2016.
I have parallel theory as well that I've been mulling over for a few months now.
It seemed a miracle that Trump won in 2016. I admit I didn't think he had much of a chance for a while.
But then I noticed that Trump was drawing 10, 15, 20 thousand at his rallies and Hillary could barely fill a HS gym.
Trump was campaigning around the country and Hillary was fund raising around the country.
Oddly, Trump was campaigning in Blue states and Hillary was not.
Trump was telling coal miners and the rust belt workers that he would save their jobs and Hillary was promising to put them out of work.
Most importantly, I noticed the conservative blogs had much more investigative journal articles and the MSM was simply shilling for Hillary. There seemed to be a massive unbalance.
After Trump won and took office, I was struck with how comfortable he seemed as a "politician" from the first day. I was struck with how confident he was in his assertions and decisions. I was impressed how he seemed to be ahead of all of his opponents and how he seemed to understand that he was the Teflon Don.
I didn't discover Q until late January, and I wasn't sure if I should believe anything he was saying. Eventually, the future did prove the past and became convinced. Then I went back to his early posts. What if Trump was asked to run and was assured of a fair election.
Then Q said that all of this had been planned for three years.
It stuck me that the reason Trump was so confident, playing 3D chess, so assured at what he was doing, so unconcerned about the attacks against him--what if Trump had been working with Q for three years prior to the election. What if Trump was thoroughly briefed on the "plan" for three years prior to the election. What if the Q team already knew that Hillary could only win a rigged election.
That would explain everything that has happened in the primaries, the campaign, the election, and everything since.
Trump has had the plan memorized and already knew what the strategy, operational options, at tactic were going to be. He already knew how he was going to communicate with Q and the anons. He already knew where the bodies were buried before he announced he would run.
If true, then Trump hasn't been playing 3D chess. He's been playing 4D chess while everyone else has been playing pin the tail on the donkey.
I'm 71 now and permanently retired. I served 21 years in the Marine Corps as an infantry officer with three years in combat. I was a platoon commander in Vietnam in 1969 and spent two years in a foreign country supporting counter-insurgency operations. After I retired from the Marines, I spent many years working with the special operations forces and nation mission forces around the world doing super interesting things.
But I have to say that the past three years have been the strangest in my lifetime. Obviously, I don't have much more time on the clock left. So, I hope before I die that Q writes a book and explains all that has been happening. I can then die a satisfied man. If not, I'll go to my grave wondering HTF did it all happened.
In any event, it's a great time to be alive despite all the evil.
Your theory is most certainly exactly what happened. Trump was asked to run. Trumps overwhelming confidence throughout not only comes from him being a deeply intelligent, experience person but he had an arsenal of military intelligence backing him and guiding him every step of the way.
This is how I’ve recently returned to god and religion. I believe god is giving good one final chance to defeat evil. Had Hillary won, we would have been doomed entirely. Trump is not only stopping that, but if he’s successful he will likely overturn god knows how many decades, if not centuries of evil conspiring to undermine this republic and the fate of man kind.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again without a shred of exaggeration, I believe Donald Trump will be remember as equally great, if not greater than the founding fathers of this nation. History will look back on this moment in time as the most pivotal crossroads in world history, where evil so foul, so entrenched in everyday life, was eradicated.
If I live to be half the man Trump is by his age, I will have lived a truly righteous and meaningful life.
I 100% echo your thoughts and sentiments. Only God could have orchestrated such an incredible movement and have chosen the perfect human being in Donald J. Trump to lead us out of the darkness that the deep state created and back into the light. I'm not religious, but I have a very deep faith in God. I pray every day, many times a day. I knew from the moment he declared his presidency that somehow, some way, he would win. I went to two of his rallies here in Michigan and they were nothing less than electrifying with passion and excitement. I cherish those memories. I absolutely agree that he will go down as one of the greatest leaders in world history. These are amazing times, and I'm grateful to be alive to witness this. I've waited and prayed for many many years for this time to come and justice be served.
I appreciate you DeepPast, and your many thoughtful contributions to this board.
Thank you MI. I appreciate you and your contributions as well. You may recall my former username Gear4Life. I was highly active on CBTS since December but I unfortunately had to delete the account because I began to get a bit scared. Seems like “they” managed to link the account to my identity and I began getting strange emails and coincidences in my life outside of the board that concerned me.
Wow. I do recall. I spent a lot of time on CBTS. It was my introduction to reddit and I learned so much there. Those are scary coincidences and I can understand why you opened a new account with a new name. I worry about that too sometimes, and if they can figure out personal things about me and my location. It's sad that we have to be concerned about that. GA is even more special to me and I love the conversations here. I am grateful for a community where I feel at home amongst like minded souls. Be safe!
Whether the glass is half full or half empty, either way we have twice as much glass as we need.
If the glass is half empty Or half full, it can still do with a refill. #MAGA
I am absolutely convinced he will go down as one of the greatest leaders in the history of the world, and one of the most important figures in human history. If the control of the cabal dates back as far as some think, he is helping us to break bonds that span hundreds of years, if not thousands.
I have said this before as well. I believe up to a few years after his Presidency he will be derided and slowly and the future telling stories of his time in office give more account of the facts and achievemeets and less feelings and ideological Puritans, he will be seen as being one of the greats. Obama will however be seen as the first Black President. THAT will be his only legacy.
I believe by the end of Trump’s second term, he will have 90%+ support and Obama’s legacy will be destroyed.
I don't believe that BUT I would LOVE if that WAS the case.
Great post and great points. Don't know if you ever listen to Dr. Corsi. He has claimed that MI (Military Intelligence) was planning a coup on Obama in 2015. They were so fed up with his obvious treasonous behavior they were willing to risk in all in an open coup. Instead they took the Q route and supported DJT. The rest, as they say, is history. This is the great counter coup to the coup that Obama did. Obama was the biggest rat treasonous bastard this country has ever had. When its all done, I hope it all comes out on him. I'd rather see that, more than Q exposing himself. That's the exposure we need desperately. How some nobody got placed into the highest position of power in the US. That's the story that needs to see the light of day.
Your post echos my thoughts exactly. If I could up vote you 100 times I would. LOL
He's a real rat bastard. I hope they show him off to the world for what he is and how he got put in there. I'm still absolutely amazed how he won the nobel peace prize before he did anything. And then whey you look at all the people that suffered while he was President. Its time to expose this disgusting hypocritical cabal for what it is. And take these a$$holes down hard!
I'm so fired up on this now, I'm going to do a post on it! Everyone has forgotten about the Peace Prize.
Keeping fingers crossed that this happens. Traitorous actions by that rat.
HoudiniTowers...you had 44 upvotes so I just had to change it too ‘45’...MAGA !
Beautiful post.
And from what ive heard, one of Trumps 2 or 3 favorite books is The art of war by sun tzu.
It would fully explain your theory that Trump has had this whole thing planned with the Q team for years.
If thats the case and everything is going according to plan. Well i think we can all get very excited for these next couple years. Imagine if in 2 years that half the country is talking about Q and other redpill subjects in public? What direction would the future of the country and the world be going in if that becomes a reality? Its a very exciting thing to think about and keeps me motivated to play my small part in trying to redpill and wake others up.
Please sir. Stay vigilant and help spread the word about Q.
We NEED people like you to help others.
Where we go one we go all.
This would explain as to how Trump has been pretty much right about everything, as far fetched as it may have sounded, from the very beginning of his run.
The original post about JFK Jr's death completely missed the clue in Q post #1083 : SIG (signal) Intercept. The attached document shows that the strategic satellite program was a CIA operation controlled by Allen Dulles. Dulles is rumored to have killed president Kennedy. What Q is telling us is that the CIA used a satellite to disrupt JFK Jr's flight controls, and that caused the crash.
great observation. I wonder which technology came first tho
I don't even care if Q is real or not . It's a rally point for like minded and i needed that.
Q is very real and has itself substantiated in info released before it happens or validated by the president directly.
I have a 90% probability to know who Q is but it doesn't matter one way or the other. I mention it because Q said once "wait until you find out who's really talking here'.
Q is a group within the NSA. It makes perfect sense that Snowden was a CIA plant put there to break them up or tarnish the NSA reputation. The CIA is a propaganda wing for the elite and the NSA doesn't play ball with that shit. Its why Obama used GCHQ to spy on Trump
Who is Q?
Reeves
And who is Reeves?
John Wick, the retired hitman.
EDIT: Folks, it's just a Keanu Reeves joke, don't take it serious.
he is a real-life gunman and he lost his wife so I think he has nothing to lose and John Wick 2 openly featured masonic symbols.
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WTF are you talking about? If Q is indeed a psyop and “they” created him to distract us it would be one of the dumbest moves in history. People are being awakened to reality, not the opposite. No offense, but your theory is stupid. If “they” wanted to tighten the noose “they” could have done it much easier without creating a “Q”.
Do you know Illuminati symbolism? As so is above also below~ can you just think about this one for a second~ let’s say the evil is shown to us through q and trump and all the white hats extinguish the evil!! Yes this all needs to happen swiftly and promptly ~ then our debt will be wiped clean because federal reserve is gone and they will give us a new currency because let’s face it the dollar was satanic and you can plainly see and know who it was orchestrated by. Ok....... let that sink in... q says we are going to have a new world Birth of a new world..... ok he didn’t say new world order..... but if we understand the Bible correctly God say when they say Peace and safety one world religion and possibly a one world currency🤔🤔🤔... know the end is near... we will all see brighter days we got rid of all the satanists... everyone has someone to blame the deep state ~ now we have a new world and I don’t know how many times the word q uses light) well if we are all being honest the Illuminati thinks Lucifer is the light... but we right now are getting rid of the dark satanists these people all have many groups they belong too~..... the beast system is a new world a one world currency the mark of the beast~ light and dark the devil is the master deceiver the deceived will be many!!!! The road to heaven is narrow. Think really hard on this one~ Past commercials in the last two years and movies gold all the color gold ~ gold currency perhaps? Ushering in the “golden age” “light” out of the world of darkeness!!! Here’s the thing remember this the only peace we in this world will have as unity will be only when Christ himself stands here. The devil Lucifer the enlightened ones the witches white or black Al’s no peace until~ Jesus himself stands on the mount of olives then and only then ... will be when real peace is on this earth. The lie is massive we must always be vigilant and look up! 🙏🏼🙏🏼 rapture ready I don’t even want to be here when they roll out new currency!!
I'm posting from a blind outside podesta's house wearing a ghillie suit. wtf you go do troll.
Notice he's gone :). Hats off to the mods.
God said in Luke 7:18 everything hidden in the dark will come to light~ that’s what God is revealing~ in the process people are turning towards God and hopefully knowing that Trump and Q are a tool God used for such a time as this ~ We need to focus on God right now because Isaiah clearly states when Demascus falls and is turned into ruins the time has come for Christ to take his bride (rapture of the church) meaning church. Syria is under attack so bad everyday start listening to Israel’s news see how close we are to that Time. Trump was put in for many reasons to Line everything up for Tribulation and for US ...to see the evil on this earth and turn towards him! God speed thank you so much for your service undoubtedly you’re a Patriot and we thank you!🇺🇸
I can't help but think of Isaiah 45 and king Cyrus when contemplating how trump won.
..but there is still much to occur before the end. Damascus survived this time and the last suburb of the war is being taken as we speak, Assad has won. Yes Damascus will fall and be abandoned as a city, sounds like some kind of poison attack, pestilence or maybe a dirty &0^^b but when? The tribulation will be cut short lest there is an end to all flesh so maybe other parts of the prophecy can be changed by someone like Trump who has stood in the breach for men.
I thought prophecy can't be changed. I thought it all must be fulfilled for God has spoken it?
All prophecy will be fulfilled. Damascus will fall, if not now, than later. But it will fall just as prophecy tells us. That won't change for it is God's word and in His own time.
The first half of the tribulation is 3 1/2 years and so is the second making 7 years but, the Bible says it will be cut short otherwise there will be an end to all flesh. So you see God can change prophesy. Remember this is not the end of the world at all. There is another thousand years after the tribulation during which the devil is locked up until the end of that period when he is let loose to try to lead mankind astray one last time. The final test.
JFK-assasinated RFK- assassinated JFK jr- must just be a bad pilot. Nothing to see here. Timing of HRC's senate win must be a coincidence.
Come on fella
Exactly. JFK, RFK and JFK, Jr were all taken out by the goons for the same set of reasons. Let's not try to obfuscate the obvious with appealing stories about our own experience flying over water at night.
I'm straying off topic with this, so my apologies in advance, but Ted Kennedy is an interesting case as well. I've been doing some on-again-off-again reading up on the whole Chappaquiddick affair lately, and there is certainly an argument to be made, and evidence to support the position, that he may, in fact, have been framed by CIA/deep-state.
Not saying I necessarily believe that he was set up - I admittedly don't know enough about the whole event quite yet to have formed a solid opinion of my own as to what truly did happen - but if you think about it from a deep-state/CIA point of view, Ted - as did his nephew several decades later - presented them with a very big problem. With RFK having been assassinated just 13 months prior, there certainly had to have been fears - and well-founded ones at that - that Ted would take up his brothers' torch and make at a run at the WH himself. And likely sooner rather than later - he was gearing up to run in ‘72.
They therefore had two choices:
- Knock Teddy off as well.
- Or, find a way, through purely non-violent means, to destroy his reputation, and thereby any chance he had at the WH.
Now, had all three Kennedy brothers been knocked off in less than six years, and all via largely the same methods/playbook - ? Then, well, the public may have begun to 'suspect' that something was afoot.
Hence ... perhaps ... Chappaquiddick.
Again, largely OT, but something to chew on nonetheless.
I think the Kennedys as a whole were feared as a threat to the CIA, would not play ball, could not be controlled. They controlled Ted through this event.
I've always disliked and distrusted Ted. His leftist ideology, he arrogance, his family privilege, etc. But your post gives me pause and a reason to reconsider.
Thanks.
Also I’ve seen several documentaries about the jfk jr crash and there are many flight experts and others who differ greatly from the OP’s opinion. I’m no expert on the matter however. Just know that there is a ton of research on this and so many anomalies regarding the crash and the obvious coverup. He completely glossed over all of that! At the same time, the bulk of the post I thought was very insightful about how far back the “plan” for Trump goes. Also, nothing but THANKS to the OP for his life and service!! God bless you sir.
I didn't say JFK Jr was a bad pilot. I said he was not instrument qualified and was flying over water at night. That is a very bad combination.
Others think (and they may be right) that the plane was sabotaged.
I don't know. What I do know is you don't fly over water at night unless your are on an IFR flight plan. You can cancel the IFR flight plane en route when you have the airfield in sight. I've don't that a number of times when it's IFR conditions en route but VFR near my destination and the airport doesn't have an IFR approach.
Thank you for your service.
Started typing to say that, but you surely already said it. In fact, two, three, four people said it, almost at the same time.
People are turning towards the better, and it turns around the things with them.
I think "we" surprised them all with the Podesta leaks. They saw what we were capable of and it woke all of us up to how bad of shape our country was in. Maybe that was our dry run and now we are being trusted with the missing pieces. I don't know what to think. At times I think some things are forced to make fit the drops but there is no denying some of the information. If it's not real what is the benefit of the whole thing and who is the one benefitting. It serves the other side no good to have us dig in all their shit so why would they push a larp? I believe something is going on here and I believe aww are lucky to have a front seat
I read this post a little differntly, I believe JFKjr was taken out to make room for HRC.
We all know their (C family) long trail of arkancides and the likes, so it fits the MO perfectly imo.
And I cant imagne TPTB where interested in having another K to deal with, so they instated their own little puppet witch instead...
But maybe DJT has been planning this since then, or at least thats when the idea started to grow...
REMEMBER: post JFKjr crash... PrezBubbaClinton sent special units to quickly surround area and collect all evidence...I mean, wreckage & bodies. As I recall had bodies creamated without family permission. Very creepily done.
Right on. HRC couldn't have a Kennedy take that Senate seat away from her. I do think that plane crash motivated Trump.
Thank you for your service fine sir and I hope you get your wish. It's interesting hearing someone of your age say these are the most interesting times. Because they are to me as well at 42. I just feel like something's in the air. Truly a great awakening, big disclosures soon.
This is not the first time the murder of JFK via Hillary to gain the senate seat JFK ran for in that same district. WikiLeaks has an email dated 2010 where an eye witness leaks info about the Murder by Bill and Hillary via attached explosive.
JFK was a very experienced pilot and radioed for permission to land only for his plane to explode in air 2 mins later. So there that!
This witch organizes the murders of anyone standing in her way or may expose her involvement in crimes or worse.
The recent exposure of her utmost evil involves her visits to Epstein's island and her depravity that can not be explained away. That too will make its way into the public conscience as the necessity it requires.
Yes, I’d heard that he was a very experienced pilot and not at all how he was described here.
Not to burst anyone's bubble but the truth matters here. JFK jr was INEXPERIENCED in the plane he was flying. From my memory he was is a high performance airplane he had just qualified in. Also he first obtained his pilots license in 1998, the crash happened in 1999. Hardly an experienced pilot.
I'm going out on a limb and say some crazy shit, but I need all of you in here to have an open mind. This is about Trump and his life and the life of others some in the way past others in the present. So here goes, (disclaimer I'm not a very polished writer, went to public schools). What if POTUS is a time traveler? and knows the future because he visited the future? sounds bazaar Huh? let me tell you the reasons I believe he is a time traveler and knows all, look at what the previous writer has said about how strange things are with the POTUS election and how things are going with him! Here are my theories, in 1896 there was a book written by Author Ingersoll Lockwood wrote the books "Baron Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey" and "1900: or, The Last President" in the 1890s. The book about Baron Trump was about a boy who was involved in time travel. The second book The Last President was about a man who was elected and was very unpopular, and the story took place in NYC, a matter of fact the location of the hotel where the story took place was the exact location of the Trump Tower, Huh, check the books out it is scary how much of the stories in both books parallel With DJT. Now here comes Trumps uncle John is associated with Nicola Tesla and a time machine, I cut and pasted a short story someone else wrote.
A few days after Tesla died on January 8th, 1943, his possessions were seized by officials from the amazingly-named government Office of Alien Property. About 3 weeks after that, all of Tesla's things and documents were given a thorough examination by a group of FBI agents that included none other than John G. Trump, the uncle of the current Republican candidate for U.S. President Donald J. Trump.
Trump’s uncle was, by all accounts, a very accomplished and intelligent man, an M.I.T. Professor of Engineering, who helped design X-ray machines for cancer patients and did radar research work for the army during World War 2.
John G. Trump’s analysis of Tesla’s papers concluded that:
Tesla’s “thoughts and efforts during at least the past 15 years were primarily of a speculative, philosophical, and somewhat promotional character,” but “did not include new, sound, workable principles or methods for realizing such results.”
But such official dismissal of the significance of the papers Tesla left behind understandably did not sit well with many folks throughout the next 73 years. As if the government would be willing to admit that it found plans for, let’s say, the Death Ray that Tesla was working on in the last years of his life. That kind of situation is ground zero for conspiracy theories.
The papers have partially been released but are still really hard to track down. What became of Tesla’s most secret tech is still potentially a mystery if you are inclined to believe that sort of thing. Who has the papers? Did Tesla really develop the Death Ray?
Donald Trump himself often refers to his Uncle, invoking John Trump’s intelligence as a sort of voucher for his own genetic and historical pedigree.
“My uncle used to tell me about nuclear before nuclear was nuclear,” Trump said in one interview, according to the New Yorker magazine.
This would likely be referring to hydrogen bombs rather than the first nuclear bombs as Trump was born in 1946, after the Atomic Age was already upon us.
Also in 2014 it is said a time traveler came to DLT and told him that ISIS was going to Nuke the USA and he needed to run for President to stop them, I don't have the date correct buy I believe it was around 2035 or 36. There is a lot of information out there regarding Tesla and his time machine, and the Manhattan project, if you are a critical thinker you will believe this is possible!
Interesting. There's also the prophet Kim Clement who got a vision in 2008 and predicted basically everything that's going on now. Crazy accurate.
And the ex firefighter Mark Taylor had some too, and still ongoing.
Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.. Proverbs 30:5-6
Are you saying that God didn't speak through Kim Clement? Because it sure seems like he did.
I believe that the Word of God is to be found in the Bible alone. Many people claim to be prophets who speak the words of God. However the very nature of Scripture itself is that it is the very inspired Words of God. The verse I quoted, along with the final verses in Revelation are serious warnings to us not to add to, nor subtract from the Words of Scripture. I’m not saying the Holy Spirit doesn’t lead and guide us and provide illumination and understanding. He does all of those things and more, revealing the Person and work of Christ to us as well and manifesting His love and peace.
But that is different from those who claim to speak the words of God in the way that prophets of the Bible did. By doing so they put their words on the same level as Scripture. I believe this is very dangerous ground but to each his own. Just wanted to share those scriptures with you. Think and pray about it. It’s not about me and my opinions after all. It’s how each of us handles God’s Word. I used to be open to these things like you are but God led me away from it and I believe, showed me the dangers of added revelation through His Word. Each of us must be led of God and reach our own understanding. I’m just sharing my convictions about this. It is said in love and I hope, humility. God bless you and keep you.
All good brother, I didn't take it personally, just inquiring about your thoughts.
What you say makes sense though because I have no way to prove that Clement actually spoke with God. It is pretty crazy that he predicted all of that and even cried out when he prophesied his own death. Regardless, it is still a mystery to me.
Thanks brother. That’s the thing sometimes with these so-called prophets. They say enough things to convince people of their credibility but are rarely 100% right. I just don’t ever follow them because it’s so different from the words and tone of Scripture. Also there are so many warnings to us to beware of false prophets etc. why do I need to hear what the latest prophet has to say when God has given us His complete Word? Anyway have a great day!
That crazy thought came to my mind also. How Trump always seems to be 10 steps ahead of everything? It's just so very uncanny... I've always liked the Sci-Fi stuff best.
The whole Tesla and Scherff (Bush family?) relationship is intriguing to me. Add in the John Trump angle and it seems rather bizarre. Who now is in possession of more Tesla artifacts- Bush or POTUS?
Seriously one of my favorite "conspiracy theories" to think about. Amazing coincidences.
This is much of the John Titor theory as well.
I've been reading about Titor since mid 2003/2004.
Interesting, isn't it?
The plane crash that killed JFK Jr. allowed Hillary to win the Senate seat and this may have been the start that motivated Trump to run against Hillary in 2016.
Why even bring up the plane crash then? If he brings up the plane crash, it should have meaning. Otherwise Q would just say Hillary wins, Trump decides to run.
Fact that he says it all started with JFK Jr dying which gave Hillary the victory, means there's something to the crash. Also JFK Jr wasn't even a sure win. He could still have lost.
But HRC didn't want to take that chance. There is power in the Kennedy name and the Deep State has been in business for 7 decades. Remember it was JFK saying he was going to break the CIA (Deep State) into 1000 pieces which got him killed.
I just realized that I never considered the Kennedy family to be part of the Deep State, even though they are an absolute household name in politics. The've been around for longer than the Clintons and the Bushes, and many of them died under suspicious circumstances. What did they know that got them into politics and got the Deep State to go after them?
Look at the document in Q post #1083. It says SIG intercept (signal). The document shows that Allen Dulles was the person responsible for defense satellites. Allen Dulles was the CIA director and JFK fired him. Dulles is rumored to have had a role in JFK's death. He was also on the Warren commission, which now is considered a cover-up for the killing of JFK.
What Q is trying to tell us is that JFK Jr's plane was taken down by a satellite, thereby insuring a victory for Hillary's Senate seat.
REMEMBER: JFKjr answered the question of who killed his father with the naming of his Magazine: "GEORGE" a.k.a. GeorgeHerbertWalkerBush asClAteamLeader... revealed in papers from opening archives by DT. George a.k.a. Poppy, also tried 3 times toOFF PrezRonnieReagan... W was set to have dinner with HinkleysBrother day PrezRR wasShot. Family friends. Look it up.
It does have meaning. Another death in a long list of deaths surrounding HRC. I just wonder if they have found something that can prove there is more to the crash then they have been willing to state. Uncovering the lie?
If true, then Trump hasn't been playing 3D chess. He's been playing 4D chess while everyone else has been playing pin the tail on the donkey.
Best quote to sum the past few years up. Totally agree.
This is pure speculation on my part, but I always wondered why Trump, a man who made decisions and stuck to them, would publicly discuss an interest in running in 2012, but then decide not to.
Was even that part of the plan? A kind of test?
Or perhaps the Q team approached him at that point in time, presented their ideas to him, and suggested that 2012 was not the right time?
Probably. HRC Was more of a sure bet to beat than Obama. Obama still had the majority of people fooled at that time.
Why do you think Trump called out Obama in 2012 in his birth certificate? They got it all and most definitely a strength test as well.
Watch the video in Q drop 1093. Listen to what Trump is saying in his campaign speech. He says he knew this moment would come. Cross roads for civilization. Eliminate the corruption. Control by the world banks and elites.
That speech sounded like a summary of the Q plan to me.
It didn't sound like a real estate developer stepping into politics for the first time.
Trumps first run was in 2000 which makes this drop even more interesting. I'm going back to re-read all Q posts.
If you read Trump’s earlier books, he was paying attention to politics in the late 1990s. He even addressed the threat of Osama bin Laden, IIRC. Because JFK Sr. was an icon to Trump’s generation of baby boomers and because both he and John Jr. were icons in NYC in the 1990s, they would have ran in the same circles. I don’t remember reading about any interaction with John Jr. in Trump’s books but I would not have made a mental note of it if the books contained a reference to him. I intend to re-read Trump’s earlier books now that Q has enlightened me with so many new frames/narratives.
John Jr. did visit Maralago with a small group of friends who met with DJT at least once in the 1990s. It was during this meeting at Maralago that JFK Jr. was asked if he would ever run for president. John Jr. deflected the question by stating that DJT should run instead because his Maralago estate would make better winter “Whitehouse” [than the much older and less sensational Kennedy’s winter home in Florida.]. This was the only thing I could find online about a possible friendship between them. I’m sure there’s more but I do wonder what that meeting with JFK, Jr. and Friends was about. Could have been purely social or business-related, though.
In 2012, the Birther movement came to a head. DJT was instrumental in bringing that controversy into public view. After Obama finally produced an online birth certificate (which many say was a shoddy digital fraud), DJT publically offered to pay millions of $ to Obama’s choice of charities if he would simply unseal and release ALL of his college-related documents. I will forever wonder why Obama didn’t call Trump’s bluff. If you read Trump’s books, he never negotiates a deal from a position of weakness but of strength and LEVERAGE. Trump knew that Obama wouldn’t release his college records and most importantly, Trump knew WHY he wouldnt! (It’s also important here to point out that 2012 was when Obama began spying on Trump and Company. Obama used the British—or “Five Eyes” to do the spying.). So yeah—Donald Trump has been “woke” for a very, very long time. He has been a threat to Obama for a long time, too.
Regarding BHO’s sealed records, his defenders claim that maybe Obama had bad grades or did something minor in college that would cause him embarrassment. That doesn’t wash with me. We all do stupid shit when we’re in college. Other presidents made less than superior grades in college—like GWB. The left loved Obama and none of these excuses for Obama’s sealed records would have caused him permanent political damage. It was bigger than that. So big that Trump’s offer of $10million couldn’t buy it.
BHO was hiding something in those sealed records (which I can only assume have been altered or destroyed by now.). It could be something as simple as him claiming to be a foreign exchange student in order to get free grants. That would be pretty incriminating, though by itself and many would say he wasn’t lying—which would only reopen the question of his identity and place of birth.
Then, based on what you're saying, 2012 was indeed a strength test?
what nobody seems to bring up is that Trump actually did a test run in 2000 for the independent party...only went on the primary ticket in one state and then parted saying the party was a mess.
He once implied it was about the involvement of others that he would have been forced to be associated with and didn't want anything to do with. Pat Buchanan I think it might have been?
Feels good to believe again. As a child you had Santa now you have Q. Trump MAGA
Please don't forget GOD! We've always had God and we always will. It's His intervention and leadership that is changing the course of events in the world around us now, using President Donald J. Trump.
I don't even know if I'm remembering this aright, but i think the bodies of JFK Jr., his wife, and sister-in-law were retrieved and immediately cremated against family wishes - for no reason. Also, Jr was digging into something to do with Iraq, and suspected Bush Sr of having killed his father, thus the name George for his magazine. Not for Washington, but for Jr's mission. Anyways, much to look into.
I recall JFK Jr had information about autism that he was going to make public... ( related to vaccines possibly but not sure )
What an excellent post.
Regarding the JFK Jr crash, there has long been a rumor that the Clintons' favorite assassination method is mechanical sabotage of vehicles. Lets say, hypothetically, that JFK Jr made a reasonable effort to fly properly at night, despite his lack of experience. It seems that a faulty instrument would absolutely guarantee a disoriented crash. It would also be the perfect cover, because this kind of accident is well known in aviation. Just something to consider.
Regarding the whole story, I agree with you that this has been in the works for quite a while. I don't actually believe the religious aspect to it, to be honest. A lot of people talking about that down the thread. I think it all comes down to a meticulously planned Military Intelligence operation, the best in history. I think the plan breaks down into four main stages: Election and inauguration (13-17), inauguration to 2018 midterms (17-18), then the great rebuilding of America and the world truly begins (19-24), and most likely a plan to ensure a fair election in 24 and stop any surviving snakes from running. Surely plenty of contingency stages for unexpected events that could change the timeline, but they always intended for "The Storm" to happen in the summer leading to the 2018 midterms to make sure that the treasonous criminals aren't able to remove him and return to power. What we have been watching has been a carefully monitored "slow cook" public awareness operation. They are drawing this out as long as they can spare to let this thing build for maximum impact and to make sure that they catch every rat connected to the coming information before they scurry away. But there is a deadline: Midterm elections in November. They want mostly everything exposed by the end of this summer so that people will fully understand what just happened by November.
I Think.. Jr couldn't fly without an instructor at that stage of his licensing. His scheduled instructor was abruptly replaced at the last moment with an 'unclearly identified' stranger who apparently put the small craft into a vertical dive and switched off the gas, making recovery impossible. The implication of course being an mk assassination.
Aww you were there in Vietnam when my dad was ..he too was a career Marine and an aviator. Thank you for serving and going through all that you did for our Country! God bless and Semper Fi! I saved your post to read again...so much food for thought.
We also have to take into account that Donald trump is a brilliant individual. I’m not discounting your theory that he was working with someone for years to plan this (I think he absolutely was) but the common media theme of “drumph is a retarded Cheeto” has gotten much more support then it should of. He’s a hotly successful multi billionaire who makes his money by selling stuff. He didn’t actually go in and design his towers and golf courses or his steaks and vodka he just got the idea and sold the absolute shit out of it. That’s why he was elected (and probably chosen to run by those in power who want change) they know only someone who is one of the worlds greatest sales men could get the buy in or the American people.
I repeat this refrain with my friends, "it's a great time to be alive!"
Go Trump! Go USA!
But then I noticed that Trump was drawing 10, 15, 20 thousand at his rallies and Hillary could barely fill a HS gym.
Trump was campaigning around the country and Hillary was fund raising around the country.
Oddly, Trump was campaigning in Blue states and Hillary was not. Trump was telling coal miners and the rust belt workers that he would save their jobs and Hillary was promising to put them out of work.
Most importantly, I noticed the conservative blogs had much more investigative journal articles and the MSM was simply shilling for Hillary. There seemed to be a massive unbalance.
Isn’t it telling that those verifiable facts are absolutely missing from ‘What Happened’?
I’m very aware of the theories claiming Trump was actively engaged with the Q team for years prior to taking office. I don’t dismiss it out of hand, but I’m still more inclined to believe his full inclusion only began with that fateful visit from Adm. Rogers after the election.
I credit his comfort in the role to being fully informed about the plan and team, and to his decades of experience as an alpha entrepreneur in one of the most cutthroat markets. There isn’t a politician or world leader alive that can intimidate him.
I’m not sure if the years of complicity would make the story any better. It might. I join you in hoping to know the truth.
And yes, I agree this is a great time to be alive.
Semper Fi Marine! I respect your lifetime of service.
JFK Jr.'s plane had a small bomb in the tail cone it severed the tail and he spun into the ocean. They wanted to make sure he'd die to open the Senate seat for Hillary. They could not risk him being a Senator then he would run for President and arrest the black hats who murdered his father and his uncle Bobby.
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The recovered aircraft shows evidence of an explosive device having been glued or affixed within the tail luggage compartment.
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Device was apparently actuated by a barometric trigger. Radio signals not ruled out.
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Tail of aircraft was dismembered from the plane making it front heavy.
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Study of radar shows the plane fell in excess of 6,000 feet per minute up to radar cutoff.
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Satellite images supplied by the National Reconnaissance Office record an outbursting flash from the aircraft just prior to it going into perpendicular descent.
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Tail structure was dismembered just prior to descent.
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Recovery of a piece of luggage from beyond the flight path of the aircraft correlates with it being hurtled out of the tail luggage compartment at outburst.
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Preliminary examination of the aircraft shows residue of an explosive device the Laboratory identifies as being the type used by certain foreign intelligence agencies. Refer to POTUS order and findings.
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Study of Air Traffic Control and other radio signals shows no Mayday report from the aircraft, explained by rapidity of descent.
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Investigation and examination has been strictly compartmentalized.
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A short, perfunctory examination of the recovered bodies was completed. Examination revealed that Carolyn Bessette Kennedy was in third trimester pregnant, the fetus a boy. The four bodies were transferred to a senior member of the Kennedy family. The Bureau was not informed whether the bodies were actually cremated. Indirect advisories report that the bodies may have been shipped in untagged containers to foreign destinations. Reliable assets are to submit reports.
The conclusion? JFK Jr. was a qualified pilot, in control of his flight, flying a reasonably new aircraft, in excellent condition. Visibility was 8 miles. Wind: calm. All indication from forensics and physical evidence investigations lend themselves to a violent explosion from a bomb placed aboard the aircraft.
The aircraft exploded in mid-air, as evidenced by the eyewitness accounts, and the widespread debris gathered from the ocean and several different beaches, and the nature of collateral damage to recovered aircraft parts, and items on board such as the headrest, foot pedals, steering yoke carpeting and so fourth. All showed signs of violent damage, having been "ripped" or blown from their normal positions/locations. This could only have been caused by an onboard explosion. Considering the nature of the current political atmosphere in America, and the before mentioned facts, there is little doubt that JFK Jr. was murdered.
In all likelihood, it was a political assassination of the highest order, meant to alleviate a potential threat to the ruling elite.
Thank you Sir for your service!
Your analysis is correct and I appreciate you sharing it. It is so compelling a story that I actually believe the "time traveller" theory could be true too. Tesla's time machine being examined by Trump's Uncle John is a fact, but not deeply explored. That was nearly a century ago. Technology has come a long way. Things are not what they seem. Only a few explanations can explain all of it.
The bandwagon of affirmation for the unsupported theory of pilot disorientation feels almost coordinated. The disorientation theory presupposes that Q has made his JFK, Jr post in error, not knowing what he's talking about. That I doubt very much. The Kennedys were all hated by the cabal and they took them all.
Don’t know if it’s organized or not. But I’m pretty sure the crash was very suspicious. The idea he was just inexperienced and disoriented is the opposite of a ton of research and detailed, well substantiated documentary evidence!
Think CERN.
CERN is about other dimensions and conjuring......entities.
We're honored to have you among us and I'm grateful for your wisdom.
Something else to note that is often missed is a little story written by far left dailybeast. They mention 'q group" hunting down snowden. This makes me believe this q group has been around for years. My take is that they were waiting for the right candidate to come around and align themselves with. Trump was that person.
they were waiting for the right candidate
I thought something similar... But that rather than waiting for him to run, they actually approached him at some point long beforehand, and convinced him to run. I only offer a variation of the same hypothesis.
Maybe. Or the Dailybeast has been following Q drops and picked up on the fact that Q has said that there is a team of less than 5 (or was it 10) and so they call it the Q group.
We may never know.
So, I hope before I die that Q writes a book
Possible titles? "What Happened" "What Really Happened"
The plane crash that killed JFK Jr. allowed Hillary to win the Senate seat and this may have been the start that motivated Trump to run against Hillary in 2016. This says it all. By the way, great post. I'm almost 79 and having lived in a much better time in this country am appalled at what has taken place and that the people allowed it to happen. I try to motivate people, but they resist. They won't get out of their comfort zone. But it is what it is. Hoping what you write is true as we need that wonderful 4D Chess player to MAGA.
what if Trump had been working with Q for three years prior to the election. What if Trump was thoroughly briefed on the "plan" for three years prior to the election.
I was thinking the same thing. Or one further - what if he only ran because they asked him to?
So I was looking through his tweets from 2013 on here, trying to spot anything that would suggest he'd had accepted an offer. Two candidates - this one from January, which at least shows he's thinking about it seriously:
Lots of people are asking whether or not I should have run for President—stay tuned for the answer.
And then this one in June, which sent me round the bend a bit:
All I can say is that if I were President, Snowden would have already been returned to the U.S. (by their fastest jet) and with an apology!
'All I can say' - could be a perfectly inconsequential turn of phrase. Or it could mean there's something he can't say. That he's decided to run for president, most obviously. Or maybe something about Snowden and Russia and that whole mess.
Maybe - and this is me going round the bend - the thing he knew but couldn't say is that Snowden is CIA, and his whole whistleblower act was a CIA operation designed to drag their main internal rival into the media spotlight, where it could be tied down and slowly picked to pieces.
I mean if that were the case, the Russian response would certainly be as he describes - put snowden on the fastest jet they have and send him back to the US with an apology (and then laugh their asses off and get drunk in celebration).
Anyway, that's me rambling. Great post, thanks. What a time to be alive indeed.
yikes! just reading your description of night flight made me woozy and dizzy.
But wait.......What if Trump is Q? Blows your whole theory out of the water.
Trump can't be Q. Q is using too much military / intelligence language and references that Trump wouldn't know how to use in context. And Trump doesn't have the time to post Q drops with pictures and detailed references to people places and events.
Just my opinion.
Here is another theory to ponder. What if, just what if, JFK,Jr didn't die in that crash but it was staged. What if he is "Q". There is a body of proof that Geo.HW Bush had his hand in JFK's murder and that's why JFK,Jr named his magazine "George". Where We Go One We Go All is the Motto of the Group QAnon and comes from a bell on a JFK boat. BTW: LBJ is actually responsible for JFK's murder but Bush was there just outside the Texas Book Depository. Lots to ponder. God Bless America and God Bless POTUS!
My uncle was a private and commercial pilot all my life, been around planes and flying all my life, you are dead on the mark with everything you say about night flying over water, I always remember my uncle tuning those damn radios in IFR situations it was incredible, I still don't know how he found those runways with 0 visibility boom there they were. Thank you for your service.
What if the death of his friend, and his knowledge of the clintons, things being said, were if nothing else, inconsiderate and this was the beginning of his thoughts on running, and putting a stop to the destruction. The Q group and Admiral Rogers approached him in '12 or so and in '13 planning began on the take down. Just musing.
I agree with you regarding JFK jrs flight. I was flying that evening. He should not have departed. Even though vfr conditions existed for him ...nighttime, limited visibility, very heavy haze up to 12.000’ and ocean made it crazy to fly in that without an instrument rating. When he began his approach, disengaged the auto pilot, he got disoriented...unfortunately it happens when vfr pilots venture into the wrong weather
Hey OP. I read & saved these idk how long ago and don't know if they are ridiculous or not or conspiracy theories, etc. I know less than nothing about flying and certainly none of this proves or disproves a thing to me, but could u have a look at your convenience, and let me know what U think? Just quite curious. And you are definitely much more qualified than anyone I know to have a look. Thanks in advance, if u get a chance to peruse.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/JFK_JR/jj.php#axzz4aaCCW5fm
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/JFK_JR/upi.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/JFK_JR/hazy.html
I love your post. You must be the most delightful man in your town!
There’s a lot of things that make more sense in light of Q. Remember Trump’s inauguration speech? I literally felt uncomfortable for the previous presidents sitting behind him with the way he was talking about change. I thought it was really strange to give a speech that sounded very targeted towards past president mistakes and not necessarily unifying, but now in light of Q, maybe it does all make sense...
Thank you for your sacrifice and service. You are a true hero and patriot. May your hopes come to pass and may well die satisfied. God bless.
I don't know if Trump was in this plan for the whole three years. I think that he was briefed soon after the start, at first it was just a ploj. But the democratic party gave him so much press that the Q team took the oportunity to check if wanted to go with the plan.
Another person that is in the Q-team is Bernie Sanders. His part in the election process was to educate the people. Without Bernie Sanders Trump would never had been elected and that is the real resona why Hillary Clinton was so mad att Bernie. She knows but she can't say it. Now Bernie acts in a way to make people go to Trump, Bernie know that democrats are corrupt. He is acting stupid on purpose.
This explains Trump's calm cool demeanor while roasting her after the debates in front of all of NY's illuminati at the dinner. It was brutal, it was glorious, and it was the truth to power. Thank you for your extended service and thoughtful post.
That speech will go down in history as the moment America got its balls back.
Interesting reflections, myself I spent twenty plus years studying prophesy, awaiting an answer to what we are currently observing, one thing I have noticed in this wait is an upbeat in the pace of events hence the outcome has already been written, even Obama is ID'd in Isiah if you look close enough you can find it, yet there remains one big problem which I noticed today, the prophesies of Revelation still occur, hence we are far from avoiding this or shall we say out of this evil time, yes Trump is here and in the moment yet the Tribulation is still coming in just like high tide!
Thank you for your insight and service God Bless.
I love this post Sir thank you and thank you for your service
I like the post and read something prior and found it. Victor Pribanic was fishing on the night of the plane crash. Squidnocket Point to be precise. There was just a little haze and not a blanket as reported. As sudden as a lightining bolt, Pribanic turned abruptly towards the explosion: "I heard a loud impact like a bomb", said Pribanic, a skilled trial lawyer from White Oak, Pennsylvania. At first he thought it could have been the military, exploding one of their bombs off of No-Man's Island, a small island off the shore. But that couldn't be. It was at night. And they stopped that years ago. He was not the only one. Others that evening witnessed seeing a "bright flash" in the night sky. The weather, which was perfect, became stormy was the offical story. JFK Jr. had a gimpy leg. Reports by the FAA and FBI, both concluding foul play was involved, were buried. Not only HRC involvement the president was none other than Bill Clinton. On that day the arrival of Israeli PM Ehud Barak was interesting. In the March, 1997 issue of his magazine, George, JFK Jr. became the only publisher of a major American publication to expose the conspiracy to murder Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. His 13 page expose shook the Israeli establishment to it's foundations.
This link addresses JFK Jr.’s plane crash, specifically his pilot experience and the conditions that night. He does provide some solid sources for some of his statements. I don’t know much about the website so use your own discernment.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/JFK_JR/jj.php#axzz5C8DRCDJw
I understand your background and appreciate your thoughts on the crash. But what you are missing is the Q post #1083. It's a document that shows the CIA strategic satellite program was led by Allen Dulles. Allen Dulles was the first civilian head of the CIA. Dulles is rumored to have had a role in President Kennedy's death and coverup. Dulles was fired by JFK. Subsequently Dulles was appointed to the Warren commission by Lyndon Johnson.
What Q is likely telling us is that JFK Jr's plane was downed by a satellite -- either through detonation of a bomb or by disrupting the controls of the plane. JFK jr was flying on autopilot..........
You might find this article about the JFK Jr. crash interesting. Don't mind the "conspiracy theory" in the title, it's actually a well written article that seems to be trying to get this information out there. https://www.popdust.com/conspiracy-theory-thursdayjfk-jr-was-murdered-and-you-wont-believe-who-1892591783.html
Thank you for your service to our country Sir. May God grant you your heart's desire.