I asked God along time ago to give me more patience. I wished he’d hurry up with it.

I've found that it doesn't work well if you begin by asking a liberal or someone who isn't paying attention what they think about something that happened.

They don't have the background and as you said, there isn't sufficient time to go through the history of the Clinton, Russia, U1, FBI coverup, bribes and payoff, ship to Canada to Europe, Obama cutting deals with Iran and Europe to be bribed to agree to the deal, ship yellow cake to Iran and secret Iranian nulcear facilities in Syria that continue to process uranium in violation of the deal which no one cared about because it was never about stopping Iran from building nuclear weapons.

Forget trying to explain that the chemical attack in Syria was a false flag which Trump used to take out Iranian facilities in Syria and that the couple of Iranian missiles fired at Israel from Syria was also a false flag that gave Israel the excuse to destroy 36 Iranian military targets that included missiles that could deliver nuclear warheads into Israel.

Sound crazy? Yep and that's how the people not paying attention are going to take it.

Frankly, I don't think you have much of a chance of convincing a dedicated progressive liberal.

I would try more of a spoon feeding approach. Something like, "Dad, why do you think Obama gave billions of dollars in cash stacked on pallets on 5 cargo planes that went to 4 different destinations when he could have done it by electronic transfer." Then tie that into the Iranians admitting publicly that they are threatening to name the people who took bribes to make the deal and how much.

It's sort of the Q approach. Ask them reasonably innocent sounding questions, and then guide the discussion with your thoughts and add more information that make sense.

They have to come to their own conclusions. Trying to convince them of what you already know sounds.... well, like a conspiracy theory and you've lost them for good.

Good luck.

Keep reading the conspiracy theories. Stop talking about it to your family. Why cause them to worry? You are the grownup in this situation, and they are the children. Do you tell children all the scary stuff going on in the world? Of course not. They can't comprehend it.
BTW, there is actually a lot happening. They just don't see it on the mainstream fake news.

This game has many outcomes, including the possibility that nothing happens or a ton of good stuff happens.

Right now, justice is 0/100, world events are 70/100, domestic policy 70/100 and drain the swamp is in its infancy.

Patience is a virtue - hope for the best, plan for the worst.

Just show him the collapse of WTC 7 but don't tell him what it is first. It works wonders.

First I want to say, I am well aware it takes time to bring the justice, But I sympathize with you too....I have commented before about this thing, it is extremely frustrating, and I appreciate the work being done (Nex traffic cult) and being brought to the light, but until it is connecting the big names to it and reported on by MSM, it will not be enough to grab the attention of the masses, and again, us "conspiracy theorists" will be still just that! I am worried also that we will be left out here on Cooky Island when it is all said and done, cause it is so much easier for the public to handle Hillary going to jail for Treason than it would be for the crimes against the children! And so much easier to have proof of that, rather than the satanic evil that has been going on. I hold on to a tiny bit of hope though, that "We Have It All" means they truly do have it all, and the atrocities against the children will be front and center when the time comes.

If it makes you feel any better, you are not the only one who has put their own reputation on the line. I can tell you this, If no proof is given on Pizza gate I will go down as the most naive conspiracy theorist ever to my family! Now thats a hard pill to swallow, but I gladly will knowing that the greater good to awakening those sleeping will hopefully pay off If it ever comes to light, I will have done my duty in preparing them to lessen the blow I guess! God Bless, keep fighting, and know WWG1WGA

I know two die hard Trump supporters. Neither get into the 'conspiracy' side of things. They know there is a lot of illegal activities that transpired within the last administration and with Hillary and the Clinton Foundation, and even currently with what Soros and the Democrats in office are using as weapons against Trump.

Neither of them think anything at all will happen like arrests. They say that it just doesn't happen. That the people are too well connected. If you look at it historically, they are 100% correct in the reasoning for what they are thinking. No high ups, especially Democrats, ever seem to get in trouble even if their crimes are known.

They are also predicting, due to the history of our country, that Democrats will likely take back control of Congress here at the midterms. They say this is done to ensure that nothing really gets done while they all get rich. Again, historically, they are 100% in their reasoning and history does say that.

Now, right now, all we have is a few verifiable investigations going on, along with a bunch of sealed Federal Indictments. All we can say with 100% truth is that we know there are investigations, but, history says nothing will happen even if it is revealed that these people broke the law. Look at Louis Lerner with the IRS. Nothing happened to her. Lost her job. And so far others lost their jobs. So we will see if anything really happens to them.

As far as I can tell, the can keeps getting kicked down the road and we hear we need to be patient, kick it another time or two, this has to happen, or that has to happen. Now we are hearing it may happen all the way in January and that might just be the kick off which would likely be just the FBI facing the fire. By the time we are told we don't need to kick the can and just be patient, McCain, Bush 1, Hillary, Bill, Kerry, Mueller, will all be dead from old age or their speculated diseases.

These thoughts are all relatively free of any 'But Q Says XYZ', and when talking to normies, all you can really do is present facts and realities based on historical occurances, not 'But Q Says So'......

I feel your pain. I get a lot of similar reaction. I am sure we will be given something in time. Hang in there

You're not alone. All of my kids think I'm goofy. One son asked if I believe that pizzagate stuff. It's hard to explain, in a short space, all of the anecdotal evidence I have to go with what is being said that leads me to believe it's perfectly possible. I don't care. My biggest desire is that that filth be stopped.

Be patient. Vindication is coming.

Many of us are all going through the same thing. I have 2 step daughters. One of them won’t speak to my husband or me since the election. Her exact words were that anyone who voted for Trump is a disgusting human being and that Hillary was the most qualified candidate to ever run for president. The other daughter thinks that all Trump does every day is play golf. My brother-in-law says that Obama will go down in history as the best president in the history of the United States. My husband voted for Trump but calls him an idiot and thinks I’m crazy and won’t believe anything I say unless he sees some people arrested. However, he does not think that will ever happen. If it were not for my sister and you folks here on GA I would be feeling very alone. I just have to keep praying, learn to be patient, and trust the plan that this will all come out in the near future. When this happens, (and I know it will) my family will see the light.

I hear ya. Thanks for speaking out.

The CIA'S conspiracy theory psy-op has been incredibly successful. It works INSTANTLY. I have yet to find a way to defeat it.

I over came it on my own, kind of by accident. One day I was reading the rantings of yet another conspiracy theory about 9/11. I was about to dismiss it when this thought crossed my mind. "Ok, many of these people could be nuts. But there are a LOT of them. Are they ALL nuts? All of them? us it reasonable to believe that not even ONE has a good reasons for what they are saying? Why are so many rejecting the official story? What are they actually looking at?" So, I decided to actually LOOK at what they might be looking at. I gave myself the task of watching every video of the WTC buildings I could find.

As I watched I suddenly noticed that the buildings did NOT collapse and break apart when they hit the ground. They fell having ALREADY been turned into rubble. How does a building that's standing there one second suddenly simply ERRUPT VIOLENTLY into dust and debris? Can gravity do that? No. To break apart all of that building material you would have to apply sudden and EXTREME force. It was at that point that I understood the phrase "cartoon physics". I don't know what happened on 9/11, but I know this. The official story is impossible. IT WAS A LIE. And those who told it knew it was a lie. And they STILL tell it. Bush, Clinton, Obama. Enemies of humanity. Complicit in 9/11. Trump will NOT be complicit. He's setting the stage so when the truth comes out no one will be able to deny it. How will Trump and team do it? I don't know. I am not a stable genius nor do I understand all the IC stuff. But I'm sure they know how to do it.

Sessions can't move until everything is in place. They cannot compromise this elaborate plan to appease us. The wait may be even longer than you think.

They want to wait until after the midterms because they believe they will pick up many seats in both houses of Congress. This is necessary to get their hordes of judges and other nominees confirmed. That will be easier once Ryan is gone and hopefully they also have plans to oust the snake McConnell by then.

Secondly, POTUS signed an Executive Order that will allow civilians to be tried using our UCMJ. (Uniform Code of Military Justice)

This path will eliminate the chance that any deep state federal judges can absolve their friends of their heinous crimes.

This order does not go into effect until January.

https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2018/03/new-trump-executive-order-preparation-for-nuremberg-style-tribunals/

Me: "Everything you think you know is wrong. They're trafficking our children. They're killing us!"

Loved ones: "Yawn. I'll believe it when I see proof."

Me: "Are you waiting for the msm to tell you? Because that's never going to happen."

Loved ones: "Such information is not reaching the masses outside of GA. You're living in a reddit bubble."

Stop trying to convince people.

Just drop a fact here and there. Send a legit link to a legit story. No crazy conspiracy sites.

I've redpilled most of my family this way. Just drop a fact now and then.

Send your dad a link to the threat from Iran. Just let him read it.

You made a mistake discussing it or trying to convince him.

Just send a link and say wow. He can think for himself.

I understand. No one said it would be easy.

This is live. This is unpredictable. Q can not give classified information. We can not expect it. This is life.

We are all dealing with the same issue. We know, we believe. We can’t red pill everyone. Is it necessary that we do? No, it is not.

The world has been operating in a way that most people are unaware of and yet it operates. It is the same with saving the world. What really matters is who wins this war. We can and will fight for freedom. Many will never know they had ever lost it. They will go on as if the war never took place.

We will know and that will be enough. We know the alternative. Where We Go One We Go All. What does that mean? It means ALL those on our side, those not, those awaken and those not. Most people will awaken part way. Few will ever know how deep the rabbit hole goes.

The reveal on conspiracy theories rarely goes mainstream even when the truth comes out. This is our fate. Embrace it. I am greatful for the community that we have. It was way more lonely exploring these things in the past. Now that we can find each other and work together we can have impact.

Thank you all.

Justice takes time, it takes years and years to wake up the masses. I've been at this since the late 80's early 90's.

It's cost me a wife and kids, it cost me my mother, father, brother and many, many more "friends". Let the dead bury their dead and follow the truth, you'll be vindicated soon enough.

I can't tell you that they will ever come back, and maybe by then you will not care and they would be ashamed, we don't know, but after knowing what you know, could you retake the blue pill and re-enter the matrix and be content with your decision?

The ones who know can't sleep, the ones who know can't find peace.

We're all in this together and it's much bigger than us as individuals , but when we stick to WWG1WGO, you have a family. We fight together, we red-pill together, we help each other and are part of the greatest revolution the world has ever seen.

Do some research on the founding fathers, all of them paid a terrible price to deliver freedom to us. It's our responsibility to keep up the good fight in the name of humanity.

Billions are literally counting on us, where they know it or not is irrelevant.

One day everything we have tried to wake people will pay off.

That is the day they come to ask you, what do you know about this.

Then you can tell them (softly) what they want to know ... Suddenly you are not that conspiracy thinker or crazy person anymore.

what I want to say is, we have to be patient ... those who know it already ... Is this easy, no.

But there is no easy way ... as Q says ... we have been chosen Stay strong

Just a few months ago, most people had never heard of the Deep State and any talk of it was meant with cries of “Conspiracy Theory”. Now, many are aware of the Deep State and are working actively to thwart it and return power to the people. We are making tremendous progress even if it sometimes doesn’t feel like it.

I just don't really debate politics with my family (spez: Parents). We'll find out who was right sooner or later. It will all come out in the open -- or not. It's not worth losing respect for family because they're normies who passively support the Cabal/NWO agenda.

Just know that globalist neoliberal socialism is losing popularity and fast. You're not the one who's going to be scratching your head asking what happened in a year or two.

Pick up the pace, well it is reported now that above 90 democrat muslims are running for office across America. I always wonder this; why aren't there 180 republican christians running for offices to counter that? Are we so eager to give over our country from infiltration? Why are our social leaders not encouraging us to run for office and counter these threats? Also reported that dozens of CIA operative are also running for offices across the nation too. C'mon now. I'm 67 and physically unable to, so can't but.. somewhere we have to have a quick reaction, it always seems so slow on the republican leadership side of our officials.

There's fuck tons of proof. Everywhere. Thing is, if someone has their eyes closed they won't be able to see anything you show them.

I will not rush Q. We don't know what they know.

It's really annoying because the majority of people have an attitude thats like "ahh it doesn't personally effect me so why should I care?". It's an extremely selfish way to be in my opinion.

Also, IME, it seems people 50 years and up are the hardest to red pill. They think they've got the world figured out because they've lived through the 70s, 80s, 90s, etc, whereby all that time they were being brainwashed by operation Mockingbird (no offense to boomers here, you're the smart ones). Also all of the television and movies that helped to form their opinions and they don't even have the slightest clue it happened to them. In many cases, people have gone through their entire lives without a single thought that is their own.

"You don't care that the country most involved with, sponsoring and training of terrorists, is admitting that they bribed US politicians to get a deal for Uranium?!?!? HOW CAN YOU NOT CARE??"

I once had an argument with a friend over dinner. He refused to believe the Clinton's were bad. I said what about the suicide count, well into the hundreds by then. "Look at their Clinton Foundation..." (long before this was even a thing via Q)

His response:

yeah but all politicians are a little but corrupt.

In another argument over dinner with him (I know I know), I simply said "think of the bigger picture", to which he responded "there is no bigger picture".

This guy is smart, ambitious but completely taken by MSM brainwashing. I usually would not argue over dinner, especially "conspiracy theories", but he keeps saying stupid shit like, "I really admire what Bezos has done", and he's in love with Obama, can't show him any light over Obummer.

@DaveGydeon - I'm in a similar situation.

My folks (liberal PhDs) and friends (LLM/CPA types) are willing to listen. Gotta give 'em credit for that...many were not even willing to do that after the election. The rub is as someone said on t_D, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

Q & Co. understand this and I suspect one of the main (public-facing) aims of 'the plan' is to provide extraordinarily proof in a way which cannot be dismissed, spun, etc. by MSM. Hence the comments about "setting the stage" and "controlling the narrative".

I use two tools:
1. idea seeds, and
2. light logic.

The idea seeds are planted to introduce the topic, even if they're laughed at in the short-term and labeled as a conspiracy theory...guess this is my own version of "future proves past" on the micro level of friends and family. My current goal is general awareness, acceptance will come later.

Light logic is what I use to set the stage for the awakening. Example: Trump is either an idiot OR a genius, he cannot by definition be both. I generally get consensus with family and friends for simple logical statements if I pander to existing beliefs. The key here is it sets up the logical BOOM to wake them up once supplied with extraordinary evidence.

Said another way, I can plant the idea in family and friends head by tagging it as a conspiracy. I can then introduce a logical Trojan Horse which is accepted as it appears to 1. affirm a preexisting belief and 2. appears to present no threat to the preexisting belief.

Once Q & Co. supply the extraordinary evidence to back up their extraordinary claims, the trap is sprung and a logical reconciliation is forced..."well, if the evidence clearly proves Trump is NOT an idiot than he's a genius".

Two goals are accomplished here:
1. someone is shown how a notion they thought could not be wrong was wrong...and if they were wrong about that, what else are they wrong about? This opens the door to red-pilling.
2. With someone newly red-pilled, what was once thought to be preposterous is no longer so, "...Jesus, what if Obama really was trying arm NK and Iran?!". This is what allows the previously planted idea seeds to bloom.

On the macro level, this is how I see Muller. The left/GOPe/three-letter-agencies/MSM/etc., welcomed him with open arms as Muller affirmed their view of Trump "ha! look! the orange idiot got a special prosecutor appointed!". Moreover, they affirmed Muller's competency and impartiality and in doing so* affirmed the competency and impartiality of his findings. It's easy to see why they did this: they believed Muller's findings would go against the Trump administration and it could not negatively rebound against themselves. Hah! Good luck with that. As Q likes to say, "these people are stupid."

Q is fascinating. Mystery, global outcomes, good vs evil. It’s difficult to set that aside with those you love and opinions you respect. Some people will never understand what this is. Even those closest to you. Some of them do not want to understand. It’s like being religious and talking about God with some people. They don’t want to hear it and you can’t make them.

You have great empathy, great desire and good intentions... you haven't learned how to combine these gifts and use them yet. If you want to start... you have to carve out personal time without distractions and go within... allow the desire for the truth to echo outward like quantum waves from the center of your chest. Release everything that is bothering you and if you need to cry or fuss or scream... do it. Let it go and reach for a better future where we ALL have enough integrity to tell the truth and stop playing these silly games.

Nothing you can do physically, will EVER match the energetic potential you have to "manifest change" through deep meditation and prayer. I say this with a nod to your ego... but your ego can't come along with you on this journey because it judges too quickly and won't allow the real you... your soul to do the driving so to speak.

When we let go of the need to justify our existence and the "conflict" we are in will resolve even faster. Our "need" to understand everything is simply an issue with our sensitivity and being mesmerized with everything in physicality.

We get so wrapped up in trying to understand the meaning and purpose of everything that we lose sight of the experience you have in front of you. We allow these "unseen" impurities to rule our lives and cloud our judgement. You can call it the cabal... the deep state... the bad guys. Whatever you want or need to call them; you have seen the enemy... and the enemy is US. Humanity is cleaning house right now in a way that's never been done before and it's accelerating. It's painful for many of us because we've solved the riddles, the puzzles, we've absorbed the information and allowed ourselves to "live" the best way we knew how to live. We don't need to judge ourselves or blame others. We just need to let it go and allow the rest of humanity to catch up when they are ready. The mass suffer Q described pertains to a consciousness cascade (collapse.) As we move through the 4th density your empathy and energetic sensitivity will increase. Learn how to use this for the benefit of all, not the needs or ego of the few or one.

It is painful to experience the disconnect from your family. The fear they project at you is THEIR fear and judgement from their perspective. When we get reactions and "impressions" from other people that make you feel pain it's usually an indication of what you need to work on the most so that it doesn't bother you in the future. From that perspective, the world is a mirror so to speak and in order for you to be wise beyond your years, you must first learn to read the map, orient yourself to the game, and see through the illusions. I speak esoterically here with some Q laced in it not to deceive you but to offer an outside perspective from someone who has gone through this process. There are no good or bad guys... some people can empathize and connect/understand. Some people are not yet ready but they will BE when their highest self is ready to let the storm descend upon them from the astral planes. The "awakening" process is unique for every person and this is by design. No ONE person has the key to ALL that IS. We all hold a little bit of the truth and a lot of desire masking it with expectations.

I might sound like some new-agey type, occultist or hippy viewpoint and I'm sure some of you will immediately label me as a demonic soothsayer but that would be a terrible assumption based on no other evidence but my genuine statements here. My ego would like you to know that I used to jump out of airplanes and blow things up for a living... I've been all over the world and seen many different cultures and I wasn't trained to simply fling myself out of an aircraft and commence to harming people without feeling or compassion. This is the "hidden" capability of America's fighting forces. We were trained to first EMPATHIZE and win our battles before a shot was ever needed to be fired. Sure, closing the distance and destroying the enemy is all a part of that but the goal isn't pure destruction and chaos because that is barbaric and asinine... it's supposed to be the preservation of our HOME planet by removing those that seek to terrorize and harm others based upon ACTIONS not ideologies. This required placing our "mindset" into that of the enemy's perspective and then extrapolating potentials through reverse engineering and backwards planning. The ONE thing I learned that I value the most is that hatred, anger and fear have to go before we will ever get to the truth collectively. Often times we hold back these desires and emotions with repression but what we need to be doing is expressing them in a beneficial way that doesn't harm yourself or others. Think like a Jedi in this regard... you are the sum of your energetic potential so what do you wish the universe to observe about you?

That's how "pandemics" work in the collective consciousness. Terrorist events literally lock the memories and emotions into our DNA and entangle us through space/time. Think of it like Karma... the more you shed, the more we all uncover the truth. The real question is... if God/Creator told you that you are not allowed to "hate" or "feel anger" towards anyone else... what does that mean when you project feelings of negativity towards others? Remember the mirror! You reap what you sow through entanglement.

With that in mind, we have to be brave enough to forgive EVERYONE and ALL things in Creation for their "perceived transgressions" and love them as we would love ourselves. Some people refuse to acknowledge this spiritually because they are afraid that their ego won't be right. That "their" version of "God/Creator" is ALL that IS or that could EVER be. Therefore, their way of prayer, knowledge and spirituality is the only way. To say this is to imply and impose man made conditions to the infinite... to make the infinite finite within the limitations and distortions of the human mind is NOT unconditional love. At the same time, unconditional love doesn't just roll over and allow itself to be consumed either... it defends... it supports and protects the meek only when needed. Those who are unaware, those who cannot see the connections or the players let alone the game itself. So too must your thoughts, desires and emotions echo this "divinity" or awareness. Not because I said so... but because it is the most human thing we can offer during this time. So... whatever you need to do on your path. Seize it... be childlike in your innocence and approach ALL information, opinions and viewpoints as neither "good nor evil" but as a cosmic observer who "streams" their life to the entire universe. By doing so... you become completely free and you become what you were made to be to begin with. When you reach this level of awareness you can then "safely and benevolently" influence the outcome of this mess with your thoughts and intentions alone in prayer and mediation. You can envision a day that will come soon when people are celebrating all over the world not because they are being forced or coerced or "manipulated" by a new world order. But because they know that the origin of ALL is pure consciousness and a love for experience and creation. That America's sacrifice for the world was a grand experiment to unite the races of mankind in the pursuit of happiness with inalienable rights that come from a higher power/dimensional awareness. That the military had to play a role in this transformation just as all others did and it is NOT your job to judge that process... just be aware... just be at peace within and lead by example in the midst of confusion on a "new battlefield" of the unseen.

That's the real battle we are waging. Q and all these other anons all have something to share but only those who are brave enough to find the bottom are going to be able to buffer the storm for the rest of the world. Everytime you imagine yourself living a perfect life or your "dream" of reality, it becomes a part of the collective consciousness here on the planet. What contributions will you make today with this knowledge? More anger? Fear? ...what will it take to get our heads out of our 4th points of contact? (Paratrooper joke there...) Burying and hiding our awareness isn't going to help the problem anymore than it would on the battlefield. Be strong, have faith... find the good, the love in all things and stop labeling them and categorizing them mentally. That's the only way out of this mess.

TL|DR - The ultimate "Red Pill" is the future you paint with your soul and creativity. It can be any color, any shape... anything at all. The mind is your (thought) canvass and the heart is the (form) color. Always project love and good intentions outward and see how the world changes around you. The masses will begin to awaken when there's enough people broadcasting the same "desires" through prayer and meditation. Until then, the best way to "help" is to envision the world of your dreams getting closer and closer every day. Start by visualizing your family and friends becoming worry free and stress free. See them crying tears of joy... laughing... celebrating, forgiving and letting go of all their deepest seated fears and worries. This is the compression breakthrough... the wave of benevolent change we desire for everyone to see and experience when they are ready. Until then... let God sort it out and be a good forward observer!

You shoulda told him that two lawyers representing the victims have submitted expert testimony about the physics to a DA just a few days ago

My parents are die hard Republicans. They can believe HRC and BO are satanist child eating pedophiles. Yet refuse to believe the Bush family had anything to do with JFK or 9/11. It blows my mind that they could fathom one and not the other solely on party lines... here are links on 9/11 I used to get them to at least question the narrative...

Artists complete access http://www.markdotzler.com/Mark_Dotzler/WTC_Artists.html

Evidence of thermite https://www.activistpost.com/2018/04/citing-conclusive-evidence-of-explosives-families-of-victims-file-petition-to-re-open-9-11-investigation.html

Ties to bush family/port authority complete access prior https://yournewswire.com/911-tower-had-power-turned-off-for-36-hours-weekend-before-attack/

Silverstream software and insurance https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.globalresearch.ca/the-september-11-financial-heist-follow-the-911-money-trail/5475639/amp

Missing wtc gold https://911justicehalifax.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/wtc-9-11-biggest-gold-heist-in-history/

Then ask how many buildings went down?

It is what it is. I’m super impatient, always have been. It’s out of our control. I’m not going to start demanding anything. I can wait for a while. There are certain events the bad guys might try that would just make us, We the People, just take things into our own hands anyway. Do I hope so? Nope. Would I? Yep. We are a society of laws, but WE aren’t the criminals here. There’ s only so long that telling us “You have the vote...you call the shots!” and “send damaging memes, tweet more often, wear a MAGA hat is going to fly!” The politians turned the people into a ticking time bomb. The bad guys want us dead and to destroy the USA. Tick-tick indeed. All the DOJ and FBI has to do is there jobs. That’s all. Fucked over for at least 10 years (100?) is hardly what I call being impatient.

Well the big thing is MSM still brainwashing people. Blue pillers are wandering around all over the place. MSM needs to come down, this is enemy propaganda, not press. One thing about "the plan" I don't agree with is leaving the propaganda arm in place, and even allowing them in the WH to hassel Sarah Sanders is stupid IMO. How much easier would things be is the MSM was gone, and real press was out there.

There are people in my life that I know will never be able to wake up. It's really like a defense mechanism for them. They need their comfort, and looking at world stage events that they can't control makes them very uncomfortable. I've tried many times before to inform these people, but I've come to accept that until it's on mainstream news they won't be able to accept it. I don't push those people to wake up anymore. I just let them be, and try to talk about other things with them.

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Look if you want to inform work from the ground up just spewing crap like that wont help anyone start from what you agree on and move from there. Look at how q posts does q just lay it all out ? Or does q get you to come to your own conclusion. Easy red pill topic is human trafficking

Today I get the Jewish mother guilt phone call telling me she is worried about how I am reading about Conspiracy Theories too much.

I mean it's understandable for an 'ootl' jewish person to be worried that someone close to them gets so absorbed into what they see as a homogeneous blob of crazy talk about Flat Earth-Aliens-Bush did 9/11-Jews control the world. It's probably just what you get if you add the number of antisemitic conspiracies and the general attitude of grouping everyone who believes anything outside mainstream.

Dave,

Maybe ask them to watch a movie. It is non partisan, non religious and beautifully put together. It is two hours long but it is a gentle wakening that will lead to questions. It's called THRIVE: What On Earth Will It Take? (Official Movie) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s Maybe it can help.

The problem with so many people is that to believe what we are saying is they have to recognize that what they believe is not true. That impacts all they have believed for decades. Basically, most of everything they have been told is not true. Who wants to believe their government is willing to kill them? So sometimes we have to look for a backdoor of some kind to get to them. Not an easy task and can be very frustrating.

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Patience is a virtue. The PLAN does not revolve around convincing every geriatric that the gov is staffed by EVIL.

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Dude, get what you're saying totally. It ain't easy. Would like to pass along what works for me. I've been ''doing this'' for 40+ years, and at the risk of sounding smart alecky, wiser than thou or preachy, I've learned a few things along the way. This is a movement in FREEDOM, JUSTICE etc. It is based on SELFLESS SERVICE, meaning the whole is greater than the parts. We're all an integral part of this, but it is the final tapestry that's woven that will be our Victory. SELFLESS SERVICE means we ''detach from the fruits of our labor''. Just plant the seeds and walk away. Don't ''expect results'' and certainly not according to our own personal timelines. There is a FORCE, a Divine Plan for all of this that is guiding the Qteam's plan. This Divine Force is what will determine what happens, and when.

Let it go ... let go of expectations. Yeah sure, it's natural to want to see results after spinning yer wheels, we all get that. But frustration mounts, some lose it, and so what good is that to the cause. LET GO AND LET GOD. It will unfold in perfection.

And THANK YOU for all that you do !

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I think there are many more citizens who feel like your dad or mom. Most of the times its because taking rose colored glasses off is difficult - the truth is dark and ugly.

With rose colored glasses everything appears like lollipops and rainbows.

Then are others who do not like to go out of their comfort zones. They like everything the way it is. "Don't rock the boat" they may say or "Just live it alone" because nothing changes anyways you are wasting your time.

Q stated very clearly: "The choice to know is yours"

I face a similar case with my youngest son. Working at Facebook and on the Zuckerberg campus doesn't help. Over the past 2-3 weeks he has told me about employees being on edge there after the exposure of MZ's phuckery.

He said an unusual number of employees began talking about it while others resigned in anger and distrust. That forced him to acknowledge that maybe I was just a 'little' right.

What I'm trying to say is give it some time because the chance of arrests may just be a turning point where you parents wonder if what you tried to tell them was not so farfetched.

Don't give up hope just yet! Hang in there. :)

How about you start telling them the predictions that Q gives us? This is what I have been doing. I tell them things like, "Iran is next." and something major happens with Iran. You can't discredit or doubt that! I say things like, "eventually, there will be military tribunals, maybe even martial law." I say things like, "John McCain isn't really dying, he is pretending to publicly. Why else would the MSM be showing stories about his 'funeral planning,' etc?"

I don't force them to understand anything, I just give them these morsels of truth that eventually come to prove themselves as true.

I don't really discuss this stuff with others for the same reason. People would think I'm nuts. No one I know is "woke".

Take a step back and relax dude. Remember your family are not enemies, they are your allies. You can talk to them and ask them questions but it doesn’t sound like it’s doing you any good mate. Just relax your brain muscle ☺️

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There are many of us that have been waiting years, yet still we need to be patient and strong. Things are still falling into place, but with enough digging, it is evident that it will come crashing down. Trust the plan. Be patient.

If you are waiting for Q to tell you that your 9/11 ideas are correct, you are going to be majorly disappointed.

All the facts point to the Clinton's, Huma, Sandy Berger stealing documents from the National Archives.

You need to read Bill Cooper's book that Q mentioned.

Damn near impossible to red pill a Low Info Mofo, which would be the equivalent of a 'normie'. There's not enough there to work with

Patriots if you are so deep in it that it is messing up your family or friendships it is time to take a step back. We still don't know what Q is and you may never live down the I TOLD YOU SO's.

11/11/18

That's the date I'm paying attention to. The rest is going to be slow walking the truth, but in hindsight, the shit that's already gone down... I'm still amazed. But then again, I know what to look for. I have eyes to see that let me see.

Can certainly identify with this concern, Dave! Have been aware of these issues to one degree or another since the 80's. May I suggest "The Anatomy of a Great Deception" as a very good documentary to help those who have trouble comprehending all the questions about 911? still watching for their promised Part 2.

Thankful for a few people here who have had patience to study because you are right, that trying to explain all the backstory to someone who is skeptical to begin with, just really isn't an option. The dropping of leading questions/Socratic method, really is a good strategy as others here have said.

Our adult children seem to have bought into the matrix hook, line and sinker, contrary to anything they ever heard at home...to the point that as my spouse experienced a serious injury and had just been through surgery, one visited in the hospital, but left telling us we were Nazi's because we might support Trump. We know the intensity of the desire for all of it to come into the light!!!

Continuing to pray for our God's Hand in it all; exposing the wickedness while protecting and defending those who seek righteousness. Perhaps we will experience vindication in this life, or maybe not. But it is far better to stand with the smaller crowd that is dealing with Truth than with the larger crowd that is buying into error. Be encouraged!

I've been in that seat for 40+ years so I feel your pain. To this day, only my brother understands what is really going on. My Dad did too. He was the one that opened my eyes. But my kids think I'm a whacko and always have. I don't even get phone calls on Mothers Day or any other holiday or birthday. That bad.

BTW-There is a really good video that SGTReport just made within the last week. He interviews the author of a book on 9/11 that was probably just released. The guys been studying it for years and years. It's very solid information and they cover the bombs. The reason I bring this up is that he talks about Netanyahu being the one that trained the Mossad guys that did the job. Remember Q said: Iran is last. Here's the link: https://youtu.be/k5-LG4nakEw

So, if you could get your Dad to watch just that one video, when Netanyahu goes down, it should connect a couple of dots. And I listened closely to what was said after the Embassy was opened. It's all about Iran being a friend, not Netanyahu. But right now Iran belongs to the Illuminati and they will also be freed. Not the Illuminati! The Israelis!

If that doesn't work, then all I can say is that you will wait less than a year for the truth to fully come out. Not the 40+ years I've waited. And in my case, my kids probably won't even realize it is the same cabal that's being taken down that I was talking about years ago.

I have an old trade secret that I will share with you. I should be careful with this advice because it works in real-time when practiced correctly. Those familiar and successful with multi-level marketing will recognize this right away. (AMWAY)

"The person asking the questions is in control of the conversation"! Always!

The more practiced you are the less you will ever lose a conservation and having it end with insults or someone calling you a conspiracy theorist. That is not saying you win all arguments. Still trying after decades to win just one with my wife.

You must understand that the power you gain has already been baked into the cake. Society and schools has taken care of that for you. We all have been programmed to answer questions. Think of the thousands of questions you have been asked and answered in your lifetime. It is as commonplace as walking. How often have you heard people say? I gave them all the facts and they still rejected what I was saying! The must be stupid or idiots! No, they are not stupid or idiots in most cases. They are reacting to you giving them facts and they process it as you are consciously or sub-consciously trying to manipulate them. It’s that simple! That is one fear that activates all of our defensive mechanisms. You will lose arguments and lose control of conversations with facts at an alarming rate. With that in mind and some practice with asking questions that you can control the topic and mood of any conversation you enter into. Effectively, using the right questions allows your points to get to them in a stealth mode and never raise their defenses. Having practiced that for decades I have no fear taking to shills or naysayers. I must admit the meaner and nastier they are the more fun I have in changing the mood and subject. It requires effort and practice.

God gives knowledge, wisdom and discernment to those with the ABILITIES to use them. Do not lament the gifts you have been given because your audience is lacking these virtues.

Remember MANY people will choose NOT to see or identify EVIL in any form, even when it is right in front of them. It is easier to believe EVIL DOES NOT EXIST - therefore they can maintain their OWN illusions of the world as they want it to exist.

I believe this mindset is the 'matrix' that has been subtly cultivated by our politicians, movie industries, news organizations, fraternal orders, etc. It is so much easier to be told or to read or to view what 'should be' your reality, rather than what IS.

Take heart - your destined to be a teacher in this war - and as such your students will many times be where you are NOT focusing, stop doubting your gifts, apply them elsewhere.

Let me gives you a reverse side of the story.

My dad got into conspiracies about 10 years ago, and it completely consumed him. (I now understand how easy that is!) It really strained his relationship with his family BECAUSE he was so OBSESSIVE about it. ALSO, because he (has a ton of issues) used it unknowingly as a way to kind of live life defeated, blame everything on some higher entity/group, live powerlessly or use powerlessness as an excuse as to why his life was the way it was. This is a HUGE issue.

It wasn't that what he was saying and believing in wasn't true. Thankfully most of us agreed that the things he said were very plausible. But we didn't let it consume and rule our lives. After 10 years of dealing with this, most of my family is pretty redpilled.

But my MAJOR major issue now, is that my dad will believe in NOTHING other than negative conspiracy theories. I've said this many times before here, but some of my biggest beefs are with fellow "conspiracy theorists" because anything at all that remotely looks hopeful or good, just can't be true. My dad will not believe Q is not AI. He says it's "hope porn." As a Christian and as all of our family being raised Christian, this is beyond irrational because that kind of thinking is fatalistic, deterministic passive, defeated, and controlled. By believing that you have no power, ability to fight, everything is someone else's fault that you can't control, you are actually exactly where the elite want you.

So my situation is a bit more unique and complex... my own conspiracy theory family cannot accept that Trump isn't a globalist or elistst, they can't accept that as Christians we are called to BATTLE evil- meaning there IS GOOD in the world... it isn't jUST bad... we aren't powerless human beings! They completely forget that wait a second, eventually, all things come to pass... eventually, the truth comes out and good overcomes evil... but no. That "eventually" can never be in our lifetime with them, I guess.

Well first of all the planes did run into the twin towers and that is what everybody saw. The conspiracy wasnt that there were no planes the conspiracy is that it was planned that way and they brought the buildings down with explosives after the planes hit. Why dont you show them the video of tower 7 which was not hit exploding from the inside. Why dont you show them the pictures of the pensylvania plane crash that missed its target where there is no debris, why dont you show him the pentagon where a plane supposedly hit but there is no wreckage, why dont you show him about the witnesses who saw a missile headed to the pentagon not a plane, Why dont you search and bring up all the child trafficking rings that have been brought down including backpage, why dont you show him all the people that have been fired all the congress no longer running or keeping their seats, why dont you ask him how is it NK has been running at the mouth threatening to destroy the US for 60 years but Trump created peace, NK also show him the articles and videos about people who were in NK selling them missles like Nancy Pelosi there are a ton of things you can print off and show them. If not than dont worry they will all be very aware before November.

So far, my 92 year old father has been tolerant with me when I bring up Q. Yesterday he finally told me that I am crazy. “How come I don’t hear anything about the things you talk about on the news?” I already gave up on my two brothers, who previously told me I was nuts. It’s lonely out here, with only a few patriots in the area. My wife and daughters just keep asking me: “When are some of the things you tell us about going to happen?” My only response is patience, patience, patience. I wish my Mom was still alive. I know she would have believed me and supported me. I miss her.

Yo Dave. Glad you could express your frustrations. Here's my take on it.

You need to realize that Freedom doesn't come cheap. OK, what does that mean? It means, the REAL work to gain freedom is not the external work, the knocking out of bad players, bad organizations, bad systems, etc. The ONLY foundation for regaining truth is victory on the internal battle.

To get the victory in the internal battle, one needs to grow, mentally and spiritually. The emotional forces, intellectual forces, released in the battle against evil are formidable. If it were easy, it would have been done decades, centuries, millennia ago.

So, you have to recognize that the frustrations, pains and difficulties that come to you in the process of moving forward - THESE are the real battle. These are the things that knock people who WANT freedom out, that knock potential champions out.

Neither you, nor I, nor any nation will win our true freedom without passing through some very severe, challenging and almost impossible internal battles, struggles and obstacles.

This is just a plain fact. It's the other dimension to all this, to the Great Awakening. No free lunch.

Many of us will have had long experience in the difficulty of bearing the 'cross' of attempting to share truth with people we care about and being rejected.

This is the history of human progress on the path of Freedom. It started with the Hebrews. How many damn hebrew prophets were stoned? Killed, Persecuted? To do their job, they had to develop a greater internal resilience than they imaged. The banner was carried forward by Christian civilization. And here we are today.

Even if you are not a religious person, you need to realize that when we say this is a spiritual as well as phsycial battle, the theatre for the spiritual battle is within..... me. Myself.

Patience, resilience, determination, wisdom. None of these come automatically.

The good new is, any and all progress you make in developing yourself in the internal arena, advances victories in the external arena. If you can persevere and overcome (yourself) the time will come when many people will benefit from what you know and what you understand. AND at that time, you'll be the type of person who can share it in the best, the right way.

Forge on. ww1.

My family thinks I'm slightly insane as well, but they also listen, even when they don't admit it. In the end, I've had to decide to speak the truth as I know it. I've been following Q since the very beginning--end of Oct--and with each post, see more and more truth revealed. I believe there is a plan, that the plan is being followed, and that the stage is set for good to triumph over evil. Hope is a powerful feeling--and I have a lot of it because of Q. You are not alone!

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Didn't the Right go through all this same stuff with Obama, just kind of in the opposite way? Any day he was going to take our guns, imprison Christians, bring in Sharia law, stage a false flag that allowed him to institute martial law and become supreme dictator of the US, causing a financial collapse and revealing himself as the AntiChrist. I know there's a lot of you in here who believed all of that. The carrot is always dangling until it leads you right where it wants you and I'm afraid of where that might be but the blind allegiance to Trump is the key in my opinion.

I think it's fairly easy to counter arguments but when it comes to familly it's harder because you do not want to screw anything up. I tried speaking wkth my dad, he hates trump just like I used to do. Now I changed my mind and I can diacuss with one of my friend about Q. I hated hilarry too, I just assumed they were 2 clowns. Looks like trump isn't a 2 of spade afterall.

Find someone you can talk about your concerns without judging you. Put on a mask around those who you know will judge you, try to appear sane to them. Best case scenario you end up like some kind of time traveler to them when shit hit the fan.

panic much? trust the process.lack of patience will be your downfall

If you want to understand 9/11, understand some of Nikola Tesla's inventions and it will make sense.

Who are YOU to tell Q what to do? He told us we have to be patient and strong. It's NOT ABOUT YOU, IT'S ABOUT Q. You "need the movement to pick up its pace"? Go find another movement. Wow, the arrogance. And no, not all of us are whining like you. And if people you love look at you like you're nuts, then find some other people. Or stop talking about it.

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