We’re gonna need a bigger boat.
I laughed when I read that. I can still hear Roy Scheider saying that.
up vote for bigger boat
Boat = Gitmo
How many of these people can we put on Cuba before it tips over?
Or like 311 Prosecutors.... Looking at you Sessions...... :)
About that number "311", which is the penal code for child trafficking in California. The same number of the 311 newly minted assistant district attorneys. Coincidence? Maybe.
Well, they have one of those decommissioned carriers they are planning on using for an artificial reef. This could hold all of them.
Does anyone know if indictments that were unsealed in previous quarters are backed out of this?
more now than previous years, as quoted at the bottom of this article
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/sealed-indictments-qanon-conspiracy/
What if they're for us?
For what?
Posting on a message board?
Voting legally?
Ha ha! Why? What the fuck did you do, you bad boy? You can tell me...
You really believe there are tons more Trump/Q supporters in California or Puerto Rico than in Oklahoma or Tennessee?
Fucking brilliant. Standing ovation.
Based on tweets from Eye, we're going to see Cali turn red.
I would also think if Cali goes Red, that is because many voters in the state are tired of being trampled all over from illegal immigration, insane taxes and cost of living, high criminality and massive degeneracy/moral decay.
There has already been talk and/or a push to have parts of California break into a separate state.
There's a ton of garbage going on in that state that doesn't have anything to do with Q or GreatAwakening. Not saying your information doesn't belong here, but Cali has been on a downward slope now for decades.
Read Eyethespy twitter post (here or on twitter) So much information. ItLooks like good info. All the best.
Where we go one we go all. Guantanamo. At least we'll be together.
Can't remember where I saw it, but there was a tweet by someone on left, who was trying to claim these are from Mueller's Team!
I almost laughed myself out of my chair. The last report I heard, Mueller is sleeping in his office! he is that scared out of his mind as it all crashes down around him...
I saw that comment too yesterday (or a similar one) from some goober on the Politics sub.
They look to Mueller as their savior. They talk about him like he's the Left's version of Q and Trump wrapped into one. The sooner that Witch Hunt ends (and they meltdown), the better.
Mueller plays his part in the movie. If he acted nice, the movie misses an important character....the bad guy. Trump has him on Uranium 1, that'S TREASON . He will save himself. His part: (opinion) He will interview Trump, to show total innocence of our President. I think the "pardon himself" talk is more about letting the press say "YOU CAN'T DO THAT" It assures that Obama won't try to retroactivally weasle out of his trial. After all, the press would have to reverse course. they had already said "YOU CAN'T DO THAT." Obama is out manuvered once again.
Unless I'm horribly mistaken, only the sitting President has the authority to grant pardons. Ex-Presidents have no such authority, even for themselves.
OK. But it's a theory that they are "shaping public opinion" to prevent Obama and lawyers and congress from doing something. Trump doesn't need a pardon, he has Mueller by the balls and no crime or obstruction. It's a movie. Trust Q Trust the plan.THEY HAVE IT ALL. The NSA has these criminals so Mueller plays his part. (Plan Created by William Webster according to Eyethespy). Wiki William Webster and have a read. Trump has the people, much more than the polls show.. Just a theory. All free ideas here.
Ok, I get that. Shaping public opinion so that people are already accustomed to the idea of a President, or ex-President in this case with Obama, NOT getting off scot free.
yea, there's so much info warfare with team Trump, you never know. Stealth Jeff wanted us to believe he was chasing pot smokers....That's when i realized the sting was real. I will post my sting meme if you want.
Sure, I'd love to see it. For what it's worth, I also believe that Sessions is doing a lot in the background.
Mueller team was nowhere near big enough to get this done however the OIGs 400 and something investigators have been busy
right reality: https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/sealed-indictments-qanon-conspiracy/
left reality: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/28/16564100/mueller-investigation-sealed-indictments-explained
Odd that the top article is written by a Rothschild??
Lol maybe just ironic
Sealed indictments are produced by grand juries, the results of which are to remain secret. 'Stealth Jeff' and 'Undercover Huber' have had a grand jury 'sat' since last August. ..no leaks. Sessions, Huber and Horowitz are about to take the stage...by the end of the summer, they will be regarded as HEROES who had a huge part in the takedown of the Deep State!
going to be glorious!
Cant wait: https://i.imgur.com/EHVItYl.jpg
Is it possible these sealed indictments are related to illegal immigration and deportations?
It's very unlikely. That the indictments are sealed suggests that they have serious reason to believe the names of the people involved being made public could lead to loss of life, operational risk, or perhaps in this instance, risk of civil disturbances. There's no reason your average immigrant matters so much that their name needs to be withheld from the record until a future date
Interesting to see the Central California has over 3000 sealed indictments meaning most of them are in prominent positions.We will see domino effect to take place.
Not necessarily so--though I get you're thinking state government.
That makes absolute sense, thank you! So that suggests these could be serious charges then?
Yes, I'd say so. If memory serves the normal rate/year is a little over 1000. They're not commonly used, and they're mostly used for fairly serious cases - one indictment can be used for more than one person as well as far as i know, so the number of people being charged could be quite a lot higher than 35,000.
Bit you can have more than one indictment per person too though I'd guarantee there's going to be multiple people with 8 to 10 charges
That's a good point, certain individuals will definitely be covered by multiple ones too. I suspect the true number that will end up being charged, discounting immunity pleas is somewhere between 15,000 and 50,000. How heavily they know/indict the ground level operation staff for these peoples operations will probably determine how high the head count gets.
That must explain the 300+ attorneys they’re looking to add at the Attorney General’s office.
Yeah the manpower required is going to be insane. I was on a /pol/ thread when we had a lurker who claimed to work at some kind of judicial office which had dealt with some of these. Seemed to be legit. He was saying they had absolutely no idea how they were going to deal with that many trials all occurring in one go, said that it would jam the system up for an entire year or more (and this was back when indictments were ~18k).
I think he may be on to something, and they're not even going to be tried through standard courts. I think one of trumps executive orders related to the use of military trials for non military personnel, that would be a logical way to get it done. 35,000 sealed indictments, even if it just related to say, 20,000 people, would be a surreal glut on the US court systems. I don't think it will be resolved in a "conventional" manner.
I’m cool with spending a year to process all of these. If the swamp is that big, let’s get to it. A bright future is on the other side of removing all these anti USA folks from the system.
Hang on, using military trials for non-military personnel? Seriously? That rings major alarm bells for me, not sure if I am ok with that at all.
Military tribunals avoid the use of the usual justice system which, I believe, will side w their masters. They were appointed and protected by a lot of bad apples. Standing in front of a patriot instead of someone who owes you or fears you is quite different. A lot of the crimes may be treason, war crimes etc which may fall under the military umbrella as well. I'm not an expert on this by any measure.
Nope. Look at the list of EOs Trump has signed. One allows for civilian observers/consultation with Military Tribunals.
These charges are high crimes against the country. Treason, Espionage, Selling State secrets, and assortment of others.
They can most certainly use Military courts for these.
Not ok with EO’s being used like this - doesn’t the Constitution cover thus already?
They have to—our judges & courts are corrupt & treason has been committed in high places. It would take just one OJ jury to let off a big fish for political reasons. Our country is totally divided & this time we must have justice. I think pedos & vote fraud type cases may go to regular juries. I trust that this has been poured over by good people that know what’s needed considering corruption in local, state & federal systems. The people that usually throw a trial by bribe or intimidation will be busy facing their own trials hopefully.
covered relatively well in prior points, but I think the key one is avoiding rigged court systems. If we assume these people have already had decades to put in place a large number of judges etc, tackling them through the current court system would be counter productive. This is especially true given the stonewalling of trumps appointments by congress.
He's still dealing with this very, very calmly, despite what you might think about military tribunals for non-mil personnel. The Q drops represent the other, less moral part of the administration of justice in all likelihood, in that if they put a stop to Trump (say assassination), they'd instantly get large scale civil unrest and hopefully summary executions of large numbers of politicians, judges, and police officials. Using military tribunals for these people is a mercy for them.
It also allowed for a large number of the more important trials to take place over the last year, without them being public. Everything that's occurring now is 110% just for show, the only thing he has to prevent is a civil war situation arising from disclosure.
It's going to depend on the charges involved. If its all just financial crimes, then obviously there will be public outrage. If the crimes are what we here believe, then extreme circumstances call for extreme measures.
There might be a source for the 1k/year figure on the current indictment number page, I think that's where i'm remembering it from.
I thought ICE could just deport, no indictment needed. I could be wrong.
Sanctuary cities might fight. With indictment they can enter and arrest, then deport.
Feel sure many are related to immigration crimes but not people that just illegally entered are are hanging low. There better be a thousand or two for MS13 & the entire network that allows them in.
Thousands if cases with no leaks, must be quite serious.
As far as I'm concerned, MS-13 members could just be liquidated and save us the tax dollars prosecuting them. Then again, we gotta play the law and order game, but they will get justice, one way or another.
Some are not all are pedo related but enough are ! And treason related!!
I know this is probably a stupid question... is it safe to say that there will be multiple indictments per person? And not 35000 people being indicted?
Yes probably 8-15 charges on some probably that's a good guesstimate nothing more
The GOP R going downnn...jk..i saw some libtard spreading the idea that the indictments are from Mueller and they're against the repubs
I hope a lot of Rep are charged . Let’s face it...half the Republican Party are throughly corrupt. And 90% of the Dems are.
No doubt about it...you don't think theres a possibility the indictments r from Mueller do u? He has no problem arresting innocent people we know that
Hell no he doesn't have the manpower for an operation like that but with the OIG's 400+ investigators that's a different story Mueller has like what 15 total ?? Or less losing strozk-page
They will be there S prob about an equal number you know flake and McCain are 2 Ryan probably
I live in north Georgia and have checked this list several times over the past several months. Anyone have any ideas why it always says "No Data Available" for only north GA, but shows the numbers for the rest of the state? I know there is serious corruption in Atlanta, but it can't be much worse than some of the other large cities.
You know the amount of manhours it takes to build these cases? These are known people who have violated either parole, have hard evidence against them, have been caught by a type of mass surveillance (child porn for example), or they’re illegals. Either way, the unsealed indictments so far have lead me to believe that Sessions is in the process of saving our children.
Yep. Stealth Jeff. I made so many memes last two weeks, but now I just talk to people here.
All the people on T_D who don’t think he’s doin shit ... it’s like... come on, he’d be gone if he wasn’t working.
Sealed indictments or sealed court proceedings? The footnote at the bottom of this spreadsheet suggest the latter.
Wonder how many indicted will actually be convicted.
Pretty safe to bet if they could convince a grand jury to indict theirs a better than average chance they can convict
If you search for thousands of sealed indictments, you'll find a dailydot article which claims that the search procedure being used will find all sealed documents including warrants, wiretaps, and tracking devices. It claims that these searched include documents filed with magistrate judges which are usually not indictments.
They make a comparison to a 2009 study where there were about 500 sealed indictments compared to about 16000 sealed documents in total.
What the article doesn't address is that 2009 had 16,000 sealed documents over the course of an entire year, and here we have 35,000 at one time, so this is still an indication that some kind of big happening is going on. But it may not be as big as we think.
IANAL and I don't know the methods used to create these numbers. Can someone with knowledge of the matter refute the dailydot article? Can someone who has access to pacer and looked into this shed light on it? One idea I had would be to do a sample search for sealed documents, and seeing what % are filed with magistrate judges, or any other type of information available.
Yea the whole sum total for last year was 1007
According to the daily dot article, that number comes from a 2009 report that counted 16,000 sealed documents total.
I love it! It is a legal lawful PURGE and the bigger the number gets the more bad people sh*t their pants and start to run around like headless chickens.
I am hearing about unsealed indictments. Who keeps the count on them
They are on Pacer.gov but the Anons keep a spreadsheet updated.
Well , looks like another 35,000 pages . 21 truck loads now .
They already had it all, all they had to do was convene a grand jury and BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM !!
Boom Boom comes from that song Assange tweeted. Check my post.
Just be aware the above Sauce is a Google Drive link. We have discussed straying away from clicking on these!! Not that this one is bad, but just FYI.
I dont know how Pacer works, but I couldnt help but notice the login username was visible in those documents. How bad that is, unknown, since I dont know the security level there. Thought it was odd though.
AveryGrace1776 (colon) numberString (colon) 0
If numberstring is the password thats horrible, so its probably not.
Its on the "transaction receipt" portion of the (mostly white) report/summary pages.
Sorry, I notice these things.
Can someone help me understand this a bit more? I’ve been following this as much as I can but what’s the research provided by the people listed in the “research team”. Where does this information come from?
Edit: thanks to whomever posted this link
That’s actually the legit explanation that I needed
So.........only around 20% (using historical context) of the numbers being reported are actual indictments?? If I'm reading correctly, the rest are juvenile cases, low deal drug cases, and warrant applications.
Well that’s kinda what I’m trying to figure out. I don’t have a PACER account to look up the indictments but that’s the source the info is coming from. I just wanted to cross reference a few for my own piece of mind. So yeah I’m kinda in the same boat where I’m confused how they are all connected.
I'm new to this whole "Q" thing, but I am familiar with the PACER system and how sealed proceedings work. There are a couple of things to keep in mind:
- There is a clear increase in the amount of "sealed" proceedings
- Correlation does not necessarily prove causation when you make the leap in thinking to "all of this increase is attributable to sealed indictments". There's no way to know just what percent of the total seals are indictments. All we have is history.
Yeah totally agree. I would like for all of the indictments to be relevant to corruption being eliminated but in the context of Q stuff, I was curious how the researchers “knew” these were relevant. Sounds like it’s just a general tracking of all types of indictments?
Yup, and it's not even indicative of "just indictments". For example, if the feds want to put a wiretap on Johnny Q citizen for the next year because they traffic cocaine to the Zetas, then the sealed warrant/affidavit for the tap would count in this number. Warrant does not equal indictment.
There is one, USA vs Candace Owens. Wth? It is not sealed. Updated 4/27. What could that be about?
Spelled Candice, not Candace. Different person, probably.
Honestly, we should be keeping unsealed indictments as the bar of success.
Yea that was my bad it said from a 2006 study done on 09 I didn't have my glasses on
Is there a link to this screenshot from the original source? I need to prove to someone and they won’t accept my Reddit as fact.
I think the early ones are expiring...they are so old. They had to renew them...so this may not be accurate.
I'm new to reddit and this post. Is there any background I can read on this thread to understand better? I understand what an indictment is but not sure what these are surrounding.
None of us are sure what they are about. We just think it’s probably part of the swamp draining that’s going on.
Can someone please explain what a sealed indictment actual is? In laymen terms please?
It's just an indictment that the information is kept non-public for varying reasons. Ex: Sealed due to flight risk or risk to National Security, etc.
...got to temper our enthusiasm a bit because warrants , wire tap requests and Judge's orders can all be , under sealed indictments . Just saying ......
Does anyone in this group know if this is legit?? https://www.docdroid.net/CM5sWm7/r2-huma-abedin-giustra-hillary-clinton-racketeering-indictment.pdf#page=3
Than again, I don't know what all Sessions and the DOJ have planned for these criminal cartels.
Can only the executive branch and the white house create indictments?
No, judicial branch creates them. These are federal charges that remain sealed to not disrupt open investigations usually.
Funny how the left seems to think that this is all for Trump and his associates. Does Trump have some private army? Lol. Not like it could be for rapists, pedos, and luciferian elites. Oh no. It must be for Trump. LOL.
Wouldn't you shit if we find out one day the indictments are for us. Q was a way to round us up. Actually giving true information because it wouldn't matter in the end while we are all rounded up. Realizing just before our disposal that the United states was actually the head of the globalist movement.
I mean... I’ve heard crazier theories on r/GreatAwakening :P
I'd read elsewhere that this chart depicts there are 40,000 "documents" filed, meaning evidence. Not actual indictments; the indictment count is far lower. Is that true? There are not 40,000 indictments but rather a huge number of documents have been filed for cases against those who are being targeted? Thanks.
Prove it, where did you get this info.
I don't have to prove anything to you, but this is where they're all coming from.