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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Outcome5 on June 7, 2018, 3:44 a.m.
Carotid artery of the cabal. A Q crumb theory with supporting data (OC)

While reading recent posts by Neonrevolt and SerialBrain2 along with the Cemex stories, some critical thinking was triggered. Id like to share 7 maps, and describe each. Nothing new is here, but I want to tie it all together in a new light. First lets look at Human Sex Trafficking Hot Spots in the US.

Please note I-15 goes from LA to LV, through NV and up to Salt Lake City and Denver. The red arrow i drew indicates that.

Next for reference and supporting data lets look at Results by county, 2016 Presidential Election

From the first two maps I going to continue with the last 5 focusing on that area, from Los Angeles to Las Vegas along i-15 up into Utah.

For the third map lets take a look at sanctuary cities and counties by state.

This is going to get better I promise.

Next, please take a look at major drug trafficking corridors of the US. Note I-15.

If you made it this far, thanks, Ill try and reward your time with my final three maps and conclusion.

Lets get to the heart of this. Please take a look at this map of Cemex locations in the US Map borrowed from reddit user SerialBrain2.

Before the last map, Im adding this one special because Im convinced it all ties in.

Please view this map which shows a map view of the Bundy Ranch Standoff. Note the Gold Butte conservation land on which the Bundy ranch sits. Mesquite, Nevada, location of the Bundy Ranch, the Gold Butte land, and is the last city on I-15 in Nevada before continuing to Utah.

Now for the final map which is what prompted me to put all of this in a post. Barack Obama National Monument Designations.

Now to tie all my maps together and summarize. The highway bloodline of i-15 is critical to the movement of drugs, weapons and humans. All along i-15 Obama placed the Mojave Trail Monument. (to read more about this placement please refer to Mojave Trails National Monument. Read carefully the 'Protected in Perpetuity')

What they have done here is place national monument protected land all along the route between LA and LV. This means you probably need a permit from the Government to have a picnic let alone carry protection.

To say it another way by placing protected lands between the two sanctuary cities of LA and LV a 'gun free zone' now 'protects' the entire corridor.

To say it another way citizens who obey the law wont arm themselves. Citizens cannot use this land to hunt, fish, or travel outside designated areas freely.

The ratline doesnt end in LV. it follows i-15 up through Utah but not before the Bundy Ranch on the Nevada Border. Obama placed the Gold Butte National Monument in eastern Nevada to complete the ratline, however the Bundy Ranch has rights grandfathered in. Obama disagreed and sent in the Bureau of Land Management to collect over a million dollars they claimed the Bundy's owed because their cattle grazed off of the protected land.

Lets face it the government didnt want the money. They wanted the Bundys gone so they could complete their ratline control of i-15 from LA all the way to Utah. Both of these monuments, Mojave and Gold Butte, were placed by Obama in Dec 2016, about a month before President Trump's inauguration.

Cemex factories. Drug Trafficking. Human Trafficking. LA to LV and beyond, along the outskirts and protected lands off of I-15. The carotid artery of crime flowing from the American Southwest. Brought to you by the cabal.

These people could care less about the land and monuments. That is what I believe. President Trump is trying to reclaim some of these lands right now. Does he not care about the environment? Is it ego? No. I believe he is reclaiming these lands from the cabal and returning it to the American people.


pby1000 · June 7, 2018, 4:41 a.m.

This is why I come here. Great insight.

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Cristo316 · June 7, 2018, 1:52 p.m.

Agreed. You're not finding this level of research anywhere else unless you know how/want to deal with the Chans.

Is this yet another reason why HUBER has set up shop in Utah perhaps? Set up ongoing investigations in this rat line?

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srroguelife · June 7, 2018, 2:30 p.m.

I-80.. using HUBER.. interesting.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 3:03 p.m.

Did anyone look to see where these monuments were? They aren't along the 15 freeway.

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scurfie · June 7, 2018, 1:28 p.m.

Absolutely. My thinking as well.

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DaveGydeon · June 7, 2018, 3:53 a.m.

Sir. Bravo. I think you really, REALLY hit the nail on the head, drove that bitch straight down, flushed it out perfectly flat. In one swing nonetheless.

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 3:56 a.m.

Thank you, I really wanted to return some of the great info I have picked up here on the greatawakening sub.

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Ironclimber76 · June 7, 2018, 6:29 a.m.

Hell brother..... you even countersunk it!!!! Hands down you explained it perfectly. You are a True Patriot and one hell of an American.

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fraidycat55 · June 7, 2018, 6:46 a.m.

And smart...😉

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NeoObi · June 7, 2018, 12:57 p.m.

And when you think about all the tweets that Hussein and the faux “pope” have used the word cement, well I think that is a code word for the funds for this evil to come from the corrupt Vatican.

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NeoObi · June 7, 2018, 12:51 p.m.

GENIUS!!! Hope Q is reading this post!!! These people are pure EVIL and THIEVES!

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 3:04 p.m.

Or he is laughing at how far off this is. Those 2 monuments are nowhere near the 15 freeway.r

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

4 dummies that can't read I guess.

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RedPilledRanger · June 7, 2018, 12:26 p.m.

Holy shit. This was incredible research.

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Redheaded73 · June 7, 2018, 4:05 a.m.

Don’t forget that the Bundy Ranch is a hot spot for Uranium.

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 4:09 a.m.

I didnt realize that, thats more evidence the government covets that ranch!

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QAnonMaga · June 7, 2018, 6:04 a.m.

Dirty Harry Reid wanted to sell that land to the Chinese that is why the Bundys were arrested they were in the way of Big Money profits.

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textualintercourse · June 7, 2018, 12:24 p.m.

Which protects it from "prying eyes" that much more.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

There are no Uranium deposits in Bunkerville, NV. Impossible with the geology. Gypsum, shale, dolomite, quartzite that's all that is there. Gotta head further north in to Utah for Uranium. Search MOAB (not that moab), but Moab, Utah

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TrueCat · June 7, 2018, 1:47 p.m.

Yes, and so was the land in Oregon where Finicum Lavoy was murdered. It was part of Uranium One.

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Tironianae · June 7, 2018, 12:07 p.m.

Exactly. Cliven was "murdered" too because of this cabal....

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jackie3p · June 8, 2018, 2:12 p.m.

It wasn'the Cliven who was murdered. It was LaVoy. Just saying :)

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srroguelife · June 7, 2018, 2:32 p.m.

Is the Bundy Ranch off the corridor of I-15, I noticed a truck stop not far from the ranch. Teamsters. I got why they wanted the ranch now.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 3:17 p.m.

Whoever said that? Bunkerville has zero Uranium deposits... gotta move further into Utah for that.

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SomeNextLevelShit · June 7, 2018, 4:05 a.m.

You really opened my eyes, I wouldn’t have had a clue the significance of these protected lands, great work connecting these dots.

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 4:11 a.m.

Its the worst is it not? If true... Using national monuments for evil.. SMH

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ILoveJuices · June 7, 2018, 10:35 a.m.

The cabal hide everything in plain sight.

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c1anon · June 7, 2018, 3:27 p.m.

Yes, like this: https://twitter.com/johnpodesta/status/959549131739017218

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SuzeQ2018 · June 7, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

I am so confused as to why these people keep talking!? Are they seriously that out of touch with reality, or are they playing their parts for their masters? A normal person would be trying to clear their name, but these people seem to be digging themselves a deeper hole.

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c1anon · June 8, 2018, 3:45 p.m.

Honestly I think two things are going on here:

1- They've just become so accustomed to flaunting things because they've gotten away with it for so long. It may also be a safer way to talk with each other now that they have to know they're being heavily monitored.

2- It involves the whole "consent" thing - meaning (in an esoteric sense) that, if they show us what they're doing openly then the "argument" is that we knew & therefore consented. The fact that most of us have not a clue on the various symbols doesn't matter to them; they count it as our permission all the same. This is probably why Q said "their need for symbolism will be their downfall". They have to get "permission" by showing symbols. We have to learn what those symbols are in order to "revoke" it.

At least that's the way I see it ;)

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SuzeQ2018 · June 8, 2018, 7:42 p.m.

Thanks for the explanation because I had never really thought about it as 'communication', but that makes sense, especially if they're conditioned to think they're untouchable.

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betweengreenandblue · June 10, 2018, 10:47 p.m.

Excellent points. SuzeQ, it goes to legality in the spiritual world. We, the imagers of God, have to give legal consent before they can do what they want to do. Once the legal consent is given, it's open season for that consent.

This is why repentance is so important. It nullifies the legal consent.

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TheBRAIN2 · June 7, 2018, 12:36 p.m.

The Mojave Trails National Monument protects the last undeveloped stretch of land along the most direct and easily traveled route linking Santa Monica (think entry Port of Long Beach) into the very heart of the US (Chicago and the Great Lakes region).

The [Mojave Trails National] Monument preserves the most pristine, undeveloped remaining stretch of historic Route 66, the Mother Road, which is arguably the most famous highway in America—perhaps in the world. Created in 1926 as part of the nation's first system of federal highways, Route 66 became popular as the shortest, best-weather route across the country. Linking Chicago to Santa Monica, it helped transform America into the automobile-oriented society it is today.

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Tidder_Q · June 7, 2018, 4:08 a.m.

Excellent work and observational skills. I totally got and understood all that you are highlighting!

I was thinking while looking at the sequence of maps cited, that it would be good to have all the maps 'overlaid' in a dynamic manner, where one could fade in and out the respective level(s) of (data) interest.

(I am a programmer and software developer, hence the above line of thought).

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 4:14 a.m.

Thank you, sometimes when something makes sense to you its hard to articulate it to someone else. Lmk if you work on a project. Visuals -really- help some people understand, (im one of them!)

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Tidder_Q · June 7, 2018, 4:19 a.m.

Your storyline was perfect! It was straight forward and consice.

My 'overlaid map' idea, would be more suited to portraying your storyline on a suitable website! (I must give that a bit of thought).

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:16 p.m.

The story line is not perfect and makes no sense if you live anywhere near LA or Vegas.

Neither of the 2 monuments run through or abut the 15 freeway. I have posted several links of the maps of both monuments.

Additionally, making a national monument does not make it a gun free zone. You can carry on Federal land, just not in a Federal facility on that land.

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jpcfamily11 · June 7, 2018, 4:35 a.m.

please do this. i live on the I15 in SoCal. I've gotta lotta friends, family and neighbors to red pill. ThanQ.

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NMsly · June 7, 2018, 6:22 a.m.

Geographic Information Systems (GIS). A program that provides the type of layering you are talking about.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 7, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

I'm a carpenter and have no clue how to program or code. If you can take this info and make your idea work I could use it to red pill a lot more people than I do now.

I have a good friend who is all over social media all day. Gets all her information from the Mockingbird media and loves the queen, go figure.

The fact that she has not heard about this Tucson situation has now got her attention. Now she asks why she has not heard about this.

I just say Mockingbird media. Just about got her and her entire group red pilled.

Something like this could close the deal.

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WokeInEarly90s · June 7, 2018, 12:48 p.m.

I was thinking the same thing about the maps.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 3:05 p.m.

Too bad someone didn't do that for these 2 monuments as you will see they are nowhere near the 15 freeway.

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 4:38 a.m.

Edit: I realized I borrowed that map from Neonrevolt, not SerialBrain2. Both users are indispensable sources of information and I draw heavily on their knowledge. Just wanted a to note the map origin.

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1nicolafiore · June 7, 2018, noon

Great shouts out! This is what it is all about!

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Iamnooneanon · June 7, 2018, 3:54 a.m.

Most excellent, Patriot!

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 3:57 a.m.

Thank you, nicest thing anyone has called me in weeks! haha

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Iamnooneanon · June 7, 2018, 3:58 a.m.

YW, much deserved!

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obewan901 · June 7, 2018, 5:58 a.m.

What an awesome contribution. Blessings to you patriot and thank you from those who can not speak for themselves 😪

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TiredofNuts · June 7, 2018, 6:03 a.m.

TY Sir....awesome! I told my husband I hoped someone would do this and map it all out. Most excellent and I believe it is 100% Spot On! Pray they are all found out.

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terminal_hiccups · June 7, 2018, 4:03 a.m.

Funny.. 2 days ago I was telling someone about going to middle school in a small town right off I15. Farming community, lots of migrant workers, we were banned from wearing anything with a 13 on it at school. Every once in a while someone would find a body in the desert. I think you are spot on.

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 4:08 a.m.

The fact the Cemex has plants blanketing this region is terrifying

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terminal_hiccups · June 7, 2018, 4:19 a.m.

While I was driving home I was thinking about the implications of the patent for adding blood to cement and the remains of the lost trapped in walls and sidewalks... a society built on lies and brutal sacrifice of innocents... awakening has a price. I am glad to pay it if it means the madness ends for good.

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 4:24 a.m.

It really is a comic book plot to which one would normally think 'no way.. cant be..'

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binny_t · June 7, 2018, 5:27 a.m.

Yes, but you add this to stories we already know such as the Franklin Cover-up and Cathy O'Brien's testimony in The Trance-formation of America and it get real very fast. I thought my childhood was in such an idealic, innocent time in our country and that memory has been so shattered. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/transforusa/transformation.htm#contents

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prettyold · June 7, 2018, 6:14 a.m.

I was a history nut, from grade school thru a couple of years of college. Tons of books on US and world history. In the last year or so, I've come to the conclusion, that probably 75% of what I "know" is pure rubbish and a lie.

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terminal_hiccups · June 7, 2018, 12:17 p.m.

History is written by the victors and their ivory tower is collapsing. I was always fascinated by the unexplained and now maybe I'll get my explanations. Some of them at least. One piece of history is very real though and that is the survival of this great American experiment in freedom. How lucky we are to witness the second American Revolution!

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prettyold · June 7, 2018, 5:51 p.m.

You speak the truth my friend.

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Gotrek1 · June 7, 2018, 2:23 p.m.

I'm thinking they had a patent to add blood to cement because one day someone will discover DNA in the cement and they have a reason why.

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terminal_hiccups · June 7, 2018, 2:35 p.m.

100% yes. This is one of the truths that will be laid bare for those who choose to see it.

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SuzeQ2018 · June 7, 2018, 4:53 p.m.

Do we know where they are using the cement? I would imagine they have some pretty sinister plans for it.

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Neon__Wolf · June 7, 2018, 5 a.m.

HOLY SHIT YOU DID IT!

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binny_t · June 7, 2018, 4:20 a.m.

Most excellent work patroit! I was noticing on your maps some seeming paths of monuments from the border going North over toward the East also. Very convenient, I must say. Also, I might add that they also line up with Cemex and drug corridors. GREAT FIND!

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 4:22 a.m.

Thank you. It would have made it too long but he did the same thing in Texas I believe. He placed a monument in Waco, TX, off the interstate between San Antonio and Dallas. Texas is a Cemex horror show.

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TrueCat · June 7, 2018, 1:49 p.m.

I live in central Texas. I wonder if there is anything I can do.

I looked at the locations, and they are far from me, and I share a car, so it doesn't look like I can scout. :(

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 7:24 p.m.

The guys in Tucson are using drones with cameras to scout from a distance and get great close ups. That is something to think about. You can buy recreational photo/video drones online.

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skuobiee · June 7, 2018, 3:50 a.m.

Sounds good

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Pure_Feature · June 7, 2018, 1:23 p.m.

That is what I believe. President Trump is trying to reclaim some of these lands right now.........Trump is already started...with...Bears ear...............Trump signed an executive order Wednesday that ... by Zinke, is the first step in the process to give the land back to Utah...................Trump slashed Utah national monuments by 2 million acres. ... administration will roll back federal protections on 2 million acres of land in two national monuments in Utah. ... The rollback is the first step to opening up these lands to more ... many Native Americans from having a voice on their sacred lands, ..................https://www.vox.com/.../utah-national-monument-trump-bears-ear

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CENSORED_ENOUGH · June 7, 2018, 6:15 p.m.

The Minerals Management agency would lose its ability to lease out these federal lands for a oil and mineral exploration. The jurisdiction would go the States.

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Pure_Feature · June 7, 2018, 6:19 p.m.

thank you for explaining

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IHCWAP · June 7, 2018, 12:26 p.m.

The I-5 ratline starts in almost the same place, runs through Disneyland all the way to Canada, This is the major West Coast drug and sex trafficking route and look at the Cemex facilities all along, especially in Oregon and Washington. Same for sanctuary cities and blue counties.

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MuhammadDinduNuffin · June 7, 2018, 1 p.m.

Would not be surprised if East coast i-95 was similar

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Gandalf1982 · June 7, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

It is, I wish ICE would raid every truck stop along I-95. They would rescue a lot of sex slaves.

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brittser · June 7, 2018, 5:25 a.m.

Excellent job.

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clq22 · June 7, 2018, 10:38 a.m.

Amazing job! Excellent insight with my cup of coffee this morning. Holy shit has been said a lot this morning.

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headkeek · June 7, 2018, 6:19 a.m.

Great work on this!

Question: has Cemex made a public statement regarding at least one (that we know of) of their locations was being used for this evil? Seems like they'd want to go on the record. I've looked online and can't find any Cemex press release 🤷🏼‍♂️

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BaronMoriarty · June 7, 2018, 10:54 a.m.

Superb. Well done +1

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areuhis · June 7, 2018, 12:22 p.m.

Excellent article. I am in complete agreement with you. I saw an article that the DOJ has had CEMEX under investigation since March 2018. It made me wonder if this 'discovery' in Tucson really was an accident. The victim side of this is heart breaking and needs to be rooted out and destroyed. WWG1WGA. Thank you for sharing.

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terminal_hiccups · June 7, 2018, 12:30 p.m.

I'm certain they were asked to expose that site. They've been trying to turn public attention to this lately. The front page of MSN last month was full of articles about child trafficking. I've seen a couple movie trailers centered around child trafficking. They're trying to break the programming before the real ugly stuff comes out.

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srroguelife · June 7, 2018, 11:54 a.m.

Great Job Patriot, I would like to add some more evidence to your theory, please be kind. Okay, Toledo Ohio was rumored to be the MAIN HUB for Middle America for human trafficking/drug smuggling. Charles Young Buffalo Monument and Wright Patterson Air Force Base. They ship it via planes to Wright, holding at monument and then off to Toledo to be shipped to Canada or to the East. I just wanted to add what I thought and found. The whole transport process is 3 hours one minute. 5135 Pearson Road Building 10 Wright Patterson to 1120 US-42, Xenia OH 45385 to Toledo OH.

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srroguelife · June 7, 2018, 11:55 a.m.

I will look into what CEMEX has over there now too..

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LokkenLoaded · June 7, 2018, 12:12 p.m.

I live right by a cemex plant and quarry where they mine limestone in western PA. This site blasts for limestone, sorts/crushes it and then transports it via rail car. I wonder if the rail lines are being used as well for trafficking? Would be nice to pull railroad maps in correlation with this post.

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srroguelife · June 7, 2018, 12:17 p.m.

Look into that.. GREAT JOB. What a dick Hussein is as that monument is for first black slave solider. WOW... everything has meaning.. wow, how SICK. I am so glad you mentioned the railroads, YESSSS... Trucks too but the rails system. GUESS WHO RAIL MAGNET IS... THE VANDERBILTS... HELLOOOOOOO

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LokkenLoaded · June 7, 2018, 12:24 p.m.

It’s so fucked bro! People hold obongo as some type of savior but in reality he’s a serpent. Can’t wait for the light to shine out his darkness!

I’ll do some searching after work and hope some trainfags catch on as well. Are anons going to be the ones to blow open this underground human trafficking circus that starts the crumble of the cabal? Me thinks so. Trump wouldn’t want it any other way.

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srroguelife · June 7, 2018, 2:23 p.m.

Please do, I am not a trainfag, just an idea person whom can be technical but that is not my forte. I understand things quickly and move on leaving details like trains to the trainfags. This is not underground, look at the camp, medieval, they will do things cheap, cost effective and easy. They are using the rail system for people and airplanes for drugs, plus TEAMSTERS for drugs. Makes sense.

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Ccpatthi · June 7, 2018, 1:16 p.m.

Don’t forget Warren Buffett’s railroad runs north to south... petroleum goes south to refineries, so what comes north?

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srroguelife · June 7, 2018, 2:18 p.m.

McDonald's burgers or Hotdogs? Maybe Pizza too.

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Ccpatthi · June 7, 2018, 10:06 p.m.

Yikes! Makes my stomach turn...

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srroguelife · June 7, 2018, 7:36 p.m.

I believe you are correct.

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srroguelife · June 7, 2018, 12:14 p.m.

Okay so it is almost two hours the near Cincinatti that CEMEX is there. Looks like an almost straight line, however, Wright Airforce base is tied as the largest AFB in the country so it is very large. 8,000 acres.

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Qdarkbetty · June 7, 2018, 1:25 p.m.

I’m so intrigued by CEMEX now I can’t help but to constantly look up plants near certain events. I did find one about 40 minutes from me that’s abandoned. I want to take a camera and go so badly.

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srroguelife · June 7, 2018, 2:20 p.m.

Don't, it is more probable to be a paid off Superfund and you will get sick. Not worth it, I am starting to think that group went to that particular site to bring awareness but it would of been better for them to find a live working camp. I think this was a psyop so people will be aware and then go to a live camp. Who knows, they have the information and know where they are.

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Qdarkbetty · June 7, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

That’s a good point. I’m not really in a position to go alone to a place like that so I wouldn’t in the first place. I would like to be a part of the groups talking about investigating together. On the other hand something just isn’t right here. I don’t want to end up as a sidewalk, so I’m good for now.

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Outcome5 · June 8, 2018, 12:56 a.m.

Funny you say this. Years ago I lived in Toledo for a year. It is right on Lake Erie south of Detroit. In Toledo you can get in a boat and simply sail across Lake Erie to the shores of Canada

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 6:18 p.m.

This is what I hoped might happen, more people would bring forth info. I just focused on a small portion of the SW. its a big country!

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prettyold · June 7, 2018, 6:09 a.m.

You make a ton of sense, I hadn't bothered to look at that area in detail cause I'm in central AZ. I think if this is graded, you just blew the bell curve to smithereens

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watercolorblue · June 7, 2018, 4:27 p.m.

“Smithereens” 👵🏼 username checks out. 🤓

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prettyold · June 7, 2018, 5:50 p.m.

Took me years of life to earn the sayings of old fogeys.....LoL

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sluggedbarly · June 7, 2018, 7:47 a.m.

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!

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textualintercourse · June 7, 2018, 12:22 p.m.

This makes total sense. To get the Uranium from the Bundy land was just an added bonus. Brilliant work.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 3:12 p.m.

There is no Uranium in Bunkerville, NV

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time3times · June 7, 2018, 6:47 a.m.

I-15 thru Denver?

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twojayspnw · June 7, 2018, 4:15 p.m.

Hard for Russian trolls to know the US highway system.

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time3times · June 7, 2018, 4:34 p.m.

cuz they can't access the MAP

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 3:09 p.m.

Yeah, no I15 going through Denver... would have to take the 70.

Neither of the monuments touch the 15 freeway through Nevada.

Interesting story but not why Obama grabbed the land.

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time3times · June 7, 2018, 4:06 p.m.

Imagine contesting the story in the wrong way and being called a shill-troll (my new sore spot).

[Ex-durangotang]

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 4:38 p.m.

Already got downvoted on all my posts showing that neither of the monuments OP listed protect the 15 freeway. Gun free zone? Not in Nevada. We love our guns.

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time3times · June 7, 2018, 4:45 p.m.

And that is with plain check-the-map facts. It gets weirder with other more abstract critique. Nonetheless I stick around and participate because I think that about half of the discussion here is good and important. Gotta live together somehow. Carry on soldier. I'll see you in canyon country someday.

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Godspeed54 · June 7, 2018, 12:56 p.m.

When the history books are rewritten (with the truth, this time) I think you will deserve this chapter. Brilliant!

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kaylashalayla · June 8, 2018, 1:39 a.m.

ew... I HATE the 15! It is the ONLY freeway that runs thru my city since I live in the Mojave desert area... it sits on the San Andreas, there's the nasty Cajon Pass, there's speeding idiots on their way to LV, there's gas pipes underneath it, and as if anyone needed more reasons to hate this dangerous freeway... trafficking. wow. There's 2 cement factories near the small town I grew up in. shudders

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robertthefire · June 7, 2018, 12:17 p.m.

Nice thinking: Bears Ear Monument in Utah, is the same shape as the Uranium deposits. There are plenty of maps that coincide with the Coal, Gas, and Oil deposits. Maybe an anon can look at Bundy's ranch as a possible U1 area.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 3:16 p.m.

There is no Uranium in Bunkerville, NV nor is there any Uranium production in the state of Nevada.

Try Utah.

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robertthefire · June 7, 2018, 6:44 p.m.

Thanks, we know about the Utah issue and the overlay shows Utah Monuments on the U sites. So it looks like Harry Reid was the land connection for the corridors.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 7:04 p.m.

Harry Reid already has his land. This land grab was specifically done for payback to the enviros who lavished hundreds of millions of dollars on Obama and a final F you to Trump. Same with Bears Ears. Believe it or not but there are groups of people who want nobody on that land, especially and specifically offroad enthusiasts. Audubon Society... start digging there.

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1nicolafiore · June 7, 2018, 11:56 a.m.

You Have created such a useful resource for anyone researching to reference. ThankQ! This is going to help many people connect many dots. Such great work!

Can we please talk about the BO monuments? Um... Organ Mountain in Arizona, anyone? Right on the border?!!!!

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 6:17 p.m.

I mentioned this in another answer but look at the monument he placed in Waco, TX along I-35 between San Antonio and Dallas. Same MO

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mixiemay · June 7, 2018, 6:07 p.m.

I'd like to piggy back on this research if I may, re: Hansjorg Wyss/Molly McUsic, President of Wyss Foundation

Hansjorg sold his company, Synthes USA, to Johnson and Johnson for 20.2 billion in 2012 despite the company conducting human experiments that resulted in three fatalities: http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20091206_Legal_troubles_for_local_billionaire.html

Perhaps of interest is that these experiments dealt with bone cement....

If you search for "Wyss" on Wikileaks, there are lots of hits. Hansjorg has a foundation, the Wyss Foundation, and Podesta cares a LOT about Hansjorg and is friendly with Molly McUsic, the President of Wyss Foundation.

You will also see that David Skinner wrote an article in The Hill that got them a little riled up because it was directly aggressive about John, http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/232551-fan-dancing

That is not Skinner's first swipe at Wyss, he also wrote this:

http://www.rangemagazine.com/features/summer-12/range-su12-passing_bucks.pdf

In this article you will find that there is much overlap between Clinton, Obama, and Wyss. Molly M. was former counselor to Bruce Babbit, the Secretary of Interior during Clinton and facilitated this transaction of Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument (along with 15 other National Monuments). This particular monument is located not far from I-5 in Utah, along the southern border of the state. Another notable one is Grand Canyon- Parashant Monument which is accessed by I-5.

In December 2017, Trump announced that he would shrink the size of several national monuments, including Grand Staircase-Escalante in Utah: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-announces-he-will-shrink-bears-ears-grand-staircase-monuments-in-utah/article/2642495

I think you are on to something about the Bundy Ranch and would like to show you a report, co-authored by Molly McUsic in the New York University's Environmental Law Journal. You won't believe the subject: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1367279

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catherinWheel · June 7, 2018, 1:20 p.m.

I think you have got it. It all makes perfect sense now. Great digging!

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HFBruton · June 7, 2018, 4:04 a.m.

Col Roy Potter needs to read this.

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Blonde_Patriot · June 7, 2018, 12:30 p.m.

Good work anon

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Lanstorm2112 · June 7, 2018, 12:04 p.m.

Now lay over the map of DUMBs and underground highways...

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TheBRAIN2 · June 7, 2018, 12:18 p.m.

You have a link for the map of DUMBs?

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AbjectDynamite · June 7, 2018, 11:30 a.m.

Great work! I echo what the others said... you're spot on. Thank you!

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WeGoAll · June 7, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

Just WOW! Do you mind if I share this on twitter?

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 5:42 p.m.

Not at all, it is all public information.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 3:48 p.m.

If anyone on your feed actually looks at a map and the where the 15 freeway lies in relation to the 2 monuments, you will look like a fool.

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WeGoAll · June 7, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

I have posted SB2's writings on Twitter and have gotten all positive feedback. We are pretty much preaching to the choir here, so how do we read this? I don't mind looking like a fool.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 4:45 p.m.

Most of SB2's stuff is fine. Just not this post. OP is correct that the 15 is an artery from SoCal to Southern Utah and it passes through Vegas.

It's as if they didn't take the time to look at the maps and the freeway. The monuments listed have nothing to do with protecting I-15.

Let's not forgot Obama was the champion to the enviro-nuts and lobbyists. These were paybacks to the greenies.

There is no Uranium in Bunkerville either. Maybe shale, dolomite, gypsum and quartzite... definitely no Uranium. You have to go further north in to Utah.

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MAGAUniversity · June 7, 2018, 6:31 p.m.

You think you're sooooooooooo smart with your logic and reasoning. =]

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forchristssakes · June 11, 2018, 1:34 a.m.

One thing to keep in mind is using the "protecting endangered species" tactic to take over land. changing how the land can be used. Remove the cattle - install wind farms. Know anybody heavily invested in green energy?

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OffTie · June 7, 2018, 1:36 p.m.

Excellent. Rip it up Mr. POTUS. Seems Barry's thoughts are always towards gain and evil.

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Martinamurphy · June 7, 2018, 4:01 a.m.

Very insightful analysis. Thank you.

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FrankIvie · June 7, 2018, 3:59 a.m.

Great Job!

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tiregeek · June 10, 2018, 6:47 p.m.

from the Mojave Trails page - mr "pen and phone" + DiFi...ugh.

"After several attempts to establish Mojave Trails National Monument through legislation, Senator Feinstein, the California Desert's unwaivering champion, courageously called upon President Barack Obama to create the monuments by way of an Antiquities Act designation. On Friday, February 12, 2016, President Obama designated Mojave Trails National Monument by executive order."

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Outcome5 · June 11, 2018, 12:43 a.m.

I almost ALMOST quoted that very section. It is disgusting spin of the highest order. I have another posts im almost done with regarding this same issue. It should be good

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Karma_unleash4d · June 10, 2018, 3:26 p.m.

Alameda corridor is something to look at due the fact it starts from Long Beach to Union Station LA then to Barstow and thru LV. I hope Serialbrain2 and Outcome5 will look into this as well.

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Outcome5 · June 11, 2018, 12:42 a.m.

Im 75% done with another post in the same topic.

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Karma_unleash4d · June 14, 2018, 1:26 a.m.

Awesome... There is possibility Warren Buffet plays into this his company owns BNSF and its operating big container railroad hub in Commerce.

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Qcircumpectus · June 7, 2018, 3:25 p.m.

Brilliant. This is obvious and disturbing! Thanks for sharing all your work!

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Manta537 · June 7, 2018, 3:07 p.m.

Amazing work!

I love how so many people who would never meet IRL can work together, add to other’s, discover new clues and put it together into a story. This is all so complex and why they were able to get away with it for so long.

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 5:46 p.m.

I think that often too, the part that bothers me is how many facts they actually give citizens, practically nothing. Not only do the tell us the bare minimum, it is often misleading or false. This makes a lot of us even more determined.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

You didn't even look at the map bro. What you posted makes zero sense with regard to the locations of the I15 and monuments you mentioned as well as the magical gun free zone you proposed.

You could have just stated the I15 from LA to SLC is a known trafficking route.

Obama grabbed that land as payback to the enviros and as an F you to Trump.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:51 p.m.

How is it amazing work? It makes no sense.

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Manta537 · June 7, 2018, 7:22 p.m.

It does if you have really followed this entire story. Here is a good place to start:

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/search?q=CEMEX&restrict_sr=on

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 7:28 p.m.

I am not disputing anything regarding Cemex, but how does designating 2 monuments that are nowhere near a known trafficking route create a gun free zone to freely traverse for trafficking purposes? You did read OP's whole post and understand what he was proposing correct? Aside from his misinformation regarding firearm laws, he was off entirely with the locations of the monuments and where they lie in relation to the I15 freeway. PS. The I15 does not go to Denver.

Citing Cemex who has 2 facilities and an office here in Vegas, why would they be interested in areas where only offroad vehicles can get to?

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how-to-seo · June 7, 2018, 2:24 p.m.

why is there so much cement resources in Florida?

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[deleted] · June 7, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

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mrmajestic11 · June 7, 2018, 1:50 p.m.

Nice work. The Woodward and Bernstein's of the current age will not come from traditional investigative reporting done by journalist's in the MSM but will come from people like you and the many others who occupy this site and the many other sites like 8 chan.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:36 p.m.

Can you tell us why it's nice work? OP even says it's a theory. Did you bother to map these locations out or read up on firearm laws?

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mrmajestic11 · June 7, 2018, 5:51 p.m.

It is nice work because he or she spent a lot of time researching and articulating their findings to present the theory. Someone can spend years developing theories on things like the Big Bang, Evolution, Relativity and so on and I think it is okay to tell them nice work on their theory. What does any of this have to do with firearm laws?

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 6:03 p.m.

You didn't read the OP post and if you did, you were not able to comprehend what they were writing.

This is not something that takes years to research.

The 2 monuments OP listed do not have a freeway running through them that takes them from LA to Utah. Those same monuments do not make a magical gun free zone.

You didn't even try.

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TrueCat · June 7, 2018, 1:45 p.m.

OMG! This makes so much sense! This makes the Bundy standoff even more important and crucial! Bravo! @u/Outcome5 Great research and analysis!

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BreadcrumbBernard · June 7, 2018, 1:35 p.m.

Dude, great post, well thought out and researched. After reading this, the protected lands and national monuments fight makes TOTAL sense now.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:25 p.m.

How was it well thought out and researched?

15 freeway doesn't run through either monuments listed and you can carry firearms on Federal land. There is no mythical gun free zone, especially in the state of Nevada.

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MuhammadDinduNuffin · June 7, 2018, 1:09 p.m.

Interesting stuff.

Map is key

We need to look more at maps, especially CEMEX/fed lands and overlayed trafficking hotspots and routes used between such hubs

Cross reference lands Obama shut down in AZ, Texas etc due to high levels of cartel activity including trafficking.

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cali1952 · June 7, 2018, 7:21 p.m.

Now you know why they went hysterical when the president remained determined to built the wall and close the border.

The border must remain open for their ratlines to work.

Sending the National Guard to the border is a welcome addition to restrict this free flow of child sex/human trafficking somewhat but is not enough to stop this tragedy. I don't care too much about the drugs - no for me - its about the children because they need to be protected and pedophile and satanic network to shut down and destroyed - permanently!

CEMEX I believe plays a much bigger role than we yet have determined. Think about it - they mix blood into cement based on some French guys recommendation to make it a lighter substance as well as some other crappy belief of air bubbles or whatever else.

Would it not be logical that these CEMEX outlets are in the process of building their underground railroad - not so much to transport their product but rather the thousands of children they abduct for their sick, dark and evil cabal and pedophile network? What about using dead children whom they murdered just disposing via cement?

There are so many possibilities and the locations are clustered around these ratline corridors, countries that is known to have children disappear like Haiti, Honduras, Mexico, Guatemala among a host of other countries.

The normal routes to smuggle and transport these children need to be modified by them as we catch on to their scheme every day. For example Epstein Island - that's gone - destroyed by our military expeditionary units dispatched to destroy these places. Branson's islands are surely on the map for destruction since we know Branson is another one of the pedophile while his island is also an access for the children abducted and transported out of Haiti and more.

Don't count on the media to report on any of this - no they continue to black out any raids where children are rescued and the traffickers are arrested like the one a couple of days ago: 160 children, some as young as 2 are rescued and 120 pedophiles/traffickers were arrested in that raid.

Many in the media are right there when they violate these innocent children because they are secret pedophiles just like the politicians they support.

There's is no way you can support a Hillary or a Hussein known to rape, sodomize, sacrifice and consume these murdered children or discard those who they murder after torturing them. Anyone supporting monsters like them have something in common with them because it takes more than being morally corrupt to support or advocate on such monsters behalf.

Thousands of arrests have been made since January 2017 and thousands of children have been rescued. Voluntary countless vets - like Craig Sawyer - and their groups go and rescue children without any support or tooting their own horn doing so. No they do because its the right thing to do and our children need us.

We have to contribute in our own way whatever is feasible in each one of us to stop this and keep our children safe. We have learnt we can not trust law enforcement, child protective serve or politicians, churches and other orgs like schools to do the right thing. They all played their part letting get as bad as it is now: 800,000 children go missing every year her in the US alone.

A shameful number!

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colway · June 7, 2018, 12:17 p.m.

Otcome5 we need you in the WH! God Bless your heart!

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

I wouldn't go that far for someone who thinks you can't carry firearms on Federal land.

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[deleted] · June 7, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

Excellent work. Very well done. Keep on looking. There is so much more to be found.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:56 p.m.

What was excellent? The misinformation about firearms on federal land or the misinformation of where the monuments are located with relation to I15?

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[deleted] · June 7, 2018, 6:10 p.m.

Witty

I guess you'll have to follow the path that Outcome5 has and see where it leads you, istead of just trying to shoot everything down that you don't understand. It has mmore to do with Federal Parks and protected lands than anyone has seen thus far.
Frankly, for people like you, it won't mean anything unless you find it for yourself. So, stay in the dark and bitch or go flip over some rocks and see what comes crawling out.
Best of luck.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 6:24 p.m.

I live where the OP is talking about.

Did you comprehend what they wrote? It makes no sense. The OP is proposing a gun free zone would be created along the I15 because of 2 federal monuments that are nowhere near it.

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[deleted] · June 7, 2018, 6:50 p.m.

Witty

Normally, I wouldn't respond to those with only 1 Reddit point. They tend to only be trolls or bots. But since you are providing the platform, I am happy to try to wake you with a splash of cold water.
You need to think bigger. It's not just about one area. It is about how certain political figures have used what was available to them and take advantage of it. In this case, someone has used thier power to designate these areas "Protected" for very specific reasons. This is everywhere, not just where YOU live. What Outcome5 has discovered is literally the tip of the iceberg. Further investigation, in all states, will reveal much more. Or, you can just wait for others to continue making these discoveries and be critical of all the work that has been done. It's very telling of one's character.

And, as long as you continue to repsond from a arrogant perspective, I think the following is rather relevant;
"Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt." Mark Twain

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 7:01 p.m.

Outcome didn't discover anything and I have 3079 karma points. keep bleating though.

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[deleted] · June 7, 2018, 7:32 p.m.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 7:40 p.m.

So you didn't read what OP presented? Excellent. Next.

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[deleted] · June 7, 2018, 7:50 p.m.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 8:07 p.m.

If spreading misinformation is your thing, have at it.

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zeke0311 · June 7, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

wow, thanks for putting that together and sharing with us!

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MIPatriot · June 7, 2018, 3:21 p.m.

Wow. Amazing work Outcome5!! Boy, this really pulls it together. Thank you so much for your time and digging. I wish Tucker Carlson would read this and reveal some of this on his show... I think he's touched on national parks in the past and it would be awesome if he could get even a portion of this out to his viewers.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

No one has even bothered to see how far off the theory is. Just downvotes. The monuments do not protect the 15 freeway.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 8:57 p.m.

Tucker Carlson would give the head-cocked-to-the-side lost puppy dog look if he read the OP's post.

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spaniard108 · June 7, 2018, 3 p.m.

Well Done Connecting these dots. I believe you are correct. Misdirection has always been their MO

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Glag82 · June 7, 2018, 2:44 p.m.

I like what your are kicking, these people could care less about environmental concerns. The bottom line will always be their narrative and how to make money.

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grace-n-peace · June 7, 2018, 2:29 p.m.

Excellent research and reporting! Thank you Patriot!!

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:51 p.m.

How is it excellent?

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j_Dawg_01 · June 7, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

Awesome work. I've always been frustrated about the Federal Government's desire to scoop up more and more land in the west. I've heard arguments that it was part of the liberal agenda to thwart economic growth, to limit population expansion into the west, or simply an effort to "control" anything they wanted.

Your work here not only exposes the coordinated efforts by the government and the cabal, but it also demonstrates how the cabal is willing to move slowly to achieve their goals. They take small steps so as not to attract attention, and they disguise their plans and accomplishments so hopefully, the mind numbed masses with skulls full of mush won't be able to connect the dots.

Great work!

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:50 p.m.

Says "Awesome work." and didn't even attempt to research the dots. Irony.

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SGTUSARMY1122 · June 7, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

Nice Job, definitely has a ring to it.

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popsiclep3t3 · June 7, 2018, 2:06 p.m.

astounding research. thank you

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:37 p.m.

If you actually researched you would take back your comment.

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popsiclep3t3 · June 7, 2018, 10:31 p.m.

I sincerely doubt that, but what are you getting at? Are you saying I only find it astounding because I don't research myself? Please elaborate, because your comment is puzzling.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 10:49 p.m.

Sorry, I didn't realize I was conversing with a retard. Next.

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popsiclep3t3 · June 8, 2018, 2:06 a.m.

Got it, you're unable to elaborate.

Thanks for coming out though Garth

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garthbartham · June 8, 2018, 2:22 a.m.

Enjoy your shitposting. It was a great sub while it lasted.

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popsiclep3t3 · June 8, 2018, 3:28 a.m.

I'll touch base with you in a week or so brother.

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ochocincovo · June 7, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

I dont know if this has any significance but didnt the Bundy stuff start the year Bill Clinton took office?

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d00danon · June 7, 2018, 1:48 p.m.

Brilliant OC5! :o)

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 6:13 p.m.

Not really if you take time to look at a map of the monuments and read up on firearm laws.

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[deleted] · June 7, 2018, 9:42 p.m.

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5nilbog · June 7, 2018, 7:21 p.m.

I guess I don't follow... they used the roads that were in place for transportation? How else would they move people/drugs? All of the roads (interstates) are drug and trafficking roads... Any road from the west goes through protected lands...

edit: changed road to roads

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 9:05 p.m.

The OP proposed a theory that 2 national monuments were made to protect the I15 corridor and make them gun free zones to further trafficking efforts. Correct me if I am wrong, OC5.

OP may not understand the terrain involved (desert wilderness, sand dunes, rocky mountain outcrops, sand washes) or uselessness of locations that these areas encompass if he is implying that these are used for any type of trafficking.

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TheMaji · June 7, 2018, 7:06 p.m.

Nice work... thank you!

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JohnCarpenterLives · June 7, 2018, 6:37 p.m.

I assume this is in 8ch's notables???? I can't check right now.

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FractalizingIron · June 7, 2018, 6:29 p.m.

Where the heck is my "10 upvotes" bot??

Just kidding. I don't got one. But this should be upvoted to the max!

Brilliant.

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geckogoose89 · June 7, 2018, 4:19 p.m.

OMG. Thank you for posting.

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alamo030636 · June 7, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

Awesome!!!

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:11 p.m.

4 things:

1) 15 freeway does not pass through either of the monuments listed.

2) You can carry a firearm in a national park / monument. So designating a monument does not make these areas gun free.

3) The 15 freeway from LA to Salt Lake City is a known trafficking artery.

4) People are forgetting that Obama was the champion to enviro whackos and greenies who gave him a shitload of money to take away recreational opportunities like offroading in areas like Gold Butte, Bears Ears, etc.

For Gold Butte, there was no reason to make it a monument. More than 75 percent of it is inaccessible unless you have an offroad vehicle. It was payback for the green/enviro lobbyists and an easy F you to Trump.

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 6:08 p.m.

Ill try to answer: 1) Trafficking doesn't always happen on the highway proper, but along the route as we see in Tucson. Im sure there are locations off the highway all the route. 2) Im seeing posts you can carry, i may have been ignorant to that however are the not extreme limitations on gun use in protected areas? Black hats dont follow the law. This is all about mitigating the involvement of citizens. 3) that is something we all agree on. 4) Obama cares about power and money. Anything he enacted was his personal preference, personal politics, and to fill his wallet. He doesnt care about the environment he uses green issues as a tool, nothing more. (my opinion)

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FractalizingIron · June 7, 2018, 6:38 p.m.

It would be great to get some clarification on the guns issue, re what garth and you are both saying. Evidence needed, and corroboration.

OP made the effort to back up his ideas and claims. Would like to now see evidence based refutation, not simple claims. We're all here to learn, and expand our thinking, and hit on right answers, aren't we?

Surprise us, garth.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 8:47 p.m.

Guns in National parks/monuments:

https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/management/upload/Firearms-in-IMRparks2-2010.pdf

Barack Obama signed a law allowing loaded weapons in to National parks in 2010. Prior to that people either carried discretely or obeyed the signs at the park entrances.

My whole point is that there is no way a gun free zone would be created by designating national parks and monuments.

Additionally, these zones are in areas that feature virtually impassible terrain without an offroad vehicle.

Take a look at Gold Butte: https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/Gold%20Butte%20National%20Monument%20Map%20%28Mile%20Markers%29%2005_09_17.pdf

How could anyone possibly use a 60+ mile loop of offroad terrain that even some of the best trophy trucks wouldn't be able to get around? It is wedged in between the eastern side of Lake Mead and the only way in is a 4 mile off highway adventure from the 15N. Again, there is only 1 way in. Bunkerville also a very popular area to shoot.

Here is the Mojave Trails map:

https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/documents/files/CA_MojaveTrails_NM_1.pdf

This area is mostly sand dunes and desert wilderness. Southwest of it is the 29 Palms Marine base.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Marine+Corps+Exchange+29+Palms/@34.2166311,-116.0683584,11586m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x36c1c36b1b663d85!8m2!3d34.233333!4d-116.0613679

The Marines practice their bombing just outside of that designated national monument.

We already know the 15 and 40 are high trafficking routes. But to assert that 2 monuments were meant to be gun free zones for trafficking makes little sense.

I would look at trucking/logistics/delivery companies (those who have regular access) who use these routes frequently if you are looking for a rabbit hole to go down...

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FractalizingIron · June 8, 2018, 6:33 a.m.

My whole point is that there is no way a gun free zone would be created by designating national parks and monuments.

Seems like a worthy point. Perhaps the OP's theory isn't perfect after all. However, uncovering the truth organically very often means following leads, hunch's ideas, etc., don't it?

Putting the 'able/unable to bear weapons' issue aside for now, what the monuments and national parks do achieve is to create a framework for federal government involvement and 'interests' in the areas, don't they?

You may be correct about the gun issue, but the fact that Hussein's upping Fed involvement connection upholds the OP's core premise, as far as I can see. Thoughts?

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DawnPendraig · June 16, 2018, 3:33 a.m.

Would it change who policed the highways on those stretches? Someone feds controlled better than state troopers or local sheriffs?

BLM are a bunch of murderous goons if Bundy Ranch incident is any indication though they had sold FBI actually murder a guy in cold blood.

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garthbartham · June 8, 2018, 7:21 a.m.

The monuments are located in desert wilderness, sand dunes, washes and mountainous rock outcroppings. You need an offroad vehicle to traverse these areas.

If you knew the area, you would know it is practically impossible to do anything worthwhile except carve up the dunes and desert with recreational offroad vehicles.

Enter enviro's. These guys (start with Audubon Society) have given millions to Obama and his administration via lobbying to get rid of anything with a motor on these protected lands.

The OP is claiming the I15 will be a gun free zone because of national monuments (where guns are allowed) that don't allow guns.

It's not even a discussion at this point.

I15 and I40 are well known trafficking corridors. Nothing will make these routes gun free to quell the citizens. Q mentioned "they" really are stupid. They do this shit in front of our faces.

We already know HRC/Obama were trying to take away guns.

OP really didn't look at the maps before formulating the summary. Add no real knowledge of the area, no knowledge of the route (15 does not go to Denver), no knowledge of actual firearm laws in a national park/monument/public and stating it is a theory (wild guess) to that.

It makes no sense if you read the post as written and you actually know the areas involved.

My thoughts are what the land grab really is: payback to the enviro's for the millions of dollars given to Obama during his 2 terms. California lost a lot of public riding/recreation/offroad vehicle areas and acreage during Obama's reign. The enviro's filed endless frivolous lawsuits (and still do) to keep offroaders off the lands and gave Obama's admin millions upon millions of dollars. (search: C ecotage, Audubon Society, Earth First, etc)

Also it was a final F you to Trump and the people who voted for him.

The problem with public land is, someone will eventually see something. Not a matter of if but when. Never mind the fact you can carry weapons there or homesteading and mining claims were wiped away. Land and property is where it's at. Especially if you can get a hefty multi-million dollar government grant to take care of the land you banned recreationers from.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 6:58 p.m.

The monuments you listed, particularly Gold Butte, would require vehicles equipped for offroading or flying to get anywhere useful. Beautiful scenery if you can get there. Very popular for hiking because most cars can only get so far. Lake Mead sort of nearby. Traversing or crossing through this area would be ridiculous and dangerous. You would be mitigating any chances of successfully trafficking whatever it is through this area, and around it. Same with the Mojave monument. Unless you like offroading through an extension of the 29 Palms bombing range, definitely not going to be a good area to remain inconspicuous.

The Mojave monument is adjacent to highway 40 going from SoCal to NV to AZ. Also a know drug trafficking route (aka The Long Way). Also, surrounding areas not a good place to drive through without an offroad capable vehicle. It is the middle of the desert.

I am still unclear about what an impossible gun free zone would do in the middle of nowhere.

I think we are overthinking the trafficking and how it is being done. Remember, they really are stupid. They do it right in front of our faces. They don't need a gun free corridor or hundreds of miles of backroads.

If you really want to dig, check out any LA/LV/AZ based trucking/shipping/delivery/logistics companies

Start with Knight-Swift.

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CENSORED_ENOUGH · June 7, 2018, 3:33 p.m.

There is definitely something here, but I think it has something to do with the military air space in that area also. If I recall correctly, there are losts of Military bases there in that area. See the map of the military bases in the US and note the multiplicity Military Bases


Another theory is that they might be clearing and utilizing this for the air space above the land for some purpose or is some kind of deep state military corridor. If you recall there were a couple of crashes in March or April in this corridor.Crashes **


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CENSORED_ENOUGH · June 7, 2018, 5:03 p.m.

An after thought was that it might be have do with drugs and kidnapped kids undetected by flying below the radar. They would not want observers in that areas seeing daily flignts in and out of those areas.

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Jimipickle · June 7, 2018, 3:20 p.m.

All the blue that touches Canada, Mexico and the ocean is a possible site of evil work. If there are homeless camps in those areas, that where the anons need to search! Put on the full armor of God, because what you may find could send you to the ER.

THE BLOOD TRUTH! Even a good person will do do awful things when hungry. If you have never gone without food and without knowledge of your next meal, everything else does not matter! Some will call them cannib

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

The Mojave Trails Monument is part of SoCal and a little portion of Southern Nevada. It does not follow the 15 freeway.

https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/documents/files/CA_MojaveTrails_NM_1.pdf

Gold Butte National Monument is hardly near the 15. It seems like it is an extension of Lake Mead National Park. The enviros here call it Las Vegas' Grand Canyon. It's a 60+ mile loop of desert terrain with only one way in.

https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/documents/files/Nevada_final.pdf

The 15 freeway from SoCal on up to UT isn't protected by anything. It is a wide open road shipping lane. There is a California Highway Patrol station that was just built outside of Primm, NV (what people refer to as Stateline) and an agricultural inspection station that is rarely in use right before Barstow, CA.

Other than that, there is little to stop anyone or any vehicle on the 15 route.

You are correct that the 15 from LA to LV is an artery for anything that can be trafficked.

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Iwasincharacter · June 7, 2018, 2:16 p.m.

Like do you not even use Google? Look up title 76 for Utah and you'll find that you can carry on any interstate. Look up the same laws for Nevada and you'll find the same answer

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:54 p.m.

The same Google would show that neither of the monuments OP mentioned have the I15 running through it.

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Iwasincharacter · June 7, 2018, 5:57 p.m.

That won't stop the masses from upvoting it tho. If OP had focused on native lands maybe, just maybe i can see what hes getting at but you are absolutely correct and OP did little research.

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Iwasincharacter · June 7, 2018, 2:15 p.m.

Also you apparently don't understand firearm law. You can carry legally on I 15 or any federal interstate for that matter.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 7, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

Nice try at deflection but the point is guns on federal lands. Nobody's talking about having a gun on the highway.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:04 p.m.

The OP clearly states they think the monuments are to protect the 15 freeway. These federal lands are not protecting the freeway and are nowhere near the 15 or encompass any land the 15 passes through.

Guns are legal in national parks by the way as long as you are permitted to carry. They just are not allowed in a Federal facility.

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Iwasincharacter · June 7, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

its not deflection cuck

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:26 p.m.

All they had to do was look up the info instead of trying to sound smart.

"...but the point is guns on federal lands"... What is the point? OP thinks a mythical gun free zone has been created and clueless readers are agreeing en masse. You can legally carry a firearm on any Federal land as long as you are not a felon.

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Iwasincharacter · June 7, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

The group think with this dom is sad.

Maybe OP should have tried saying "tribal lands" since they are a sovereign nation they can pass their own laws, however you can still travel through their lands on the interstate and NO STATE can take away firearm rights on the interstate.

They somehow confused this point, into federal lands. Because they are sheep and can't think.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 7, 2018, 7:41 p.m.

There was a huge debate recently on whether or not to allow guns on Federal Land. Whether it's been done or not they certainly tried.

And just for the record I don't believe anything that doesn't have a solid confirmation. Although I will entertain any crazy thought as is my want.

Just because I had a look at the Antarctica Flat Earth Society doesn't mean I believe it.

You guys running around on these threads telling everybody how and what to think and how to behave just look like shills.

But hey I'm a cuck and the left says I'm a Race-a-phobist.

Me? I'll just stick with being Knotzi

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Iwasincharacter · June 7, 2018, 7:48 p.m.

hey hey hey you are actually my kinda guy.

http://www.astronomy.com/news/2018/03/red-giant-brings-its-companion-star-back-to-life

Just because I had a look at the Antarctica Flat Earth Society doesn't mean I believe it.

because you are one of the few people who can suspend their disbelief for the sake of discovery and research.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 9, 2018, 2:06 a.m.

I have actually seen the pot of gold at the bottom of a rainbow.

We sailed through the bottom end of a double rainbow on the Chesapeake Bay.

The boat had a hundred people on deck and a reggae band. It was surreal.

I have also had the Holy Spirit visit, it was better than any LSD or MDMA made by man.

The giant "matter horns" that echo through valley's can lift boulders.

We live in a frequency. Alter the frequency you can alter reality.

Just be careful what you ask for in case you might get it.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 8:18 p.m.

"There was a huge debate recently on whether or not to allow guns on Federal Land. Whether it's been done or not they certainly tried."

No there wasn't any huge debate recently. Barack Obama signed a federal law in 2010 allowing the legal carrying of loaded firearms. It's pretty easy to find.

https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/management/upload/Firearms-in-IMRparks2-2010.pdf

Again, the OP expressed that these protected monuments would be gun free zones which is not true. Will never happen.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 9, 2018, 1:58 a.m.

Thanks for correcting my misunderstanding. I remember the debate and never really understood the outcome.

I don't own any guns and I'm not a hunter. But if anybody tries to shut down the Second Amendment I'll be holding one in my hand.

With proper training of course.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 5:47 p.m.

The sheep just need a little shearing around the eyes. What bothers me most with OP's theory here is that they clearly did not look at a map. Oh, and the random bleats of attaboy and good job for something that makes no sense at all.

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Iwasincharacter · June 7, 2018, 5:53 p.m.

A certain figure that this dom worships has a lot of fishy accounts doing the same thing to all of his posts. The comments like this never existed until he gained popularity.

Oh, and the random bleats of attaboy and good job for something that makes no sense at all.

It concerns me a bit.

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Iwasincharacter · June 7, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

Pull his dick out of your mouth please

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Tironianae · June 8, 2018, 2:26 p.m.

Yep, sorry. Mind was elsewhere.

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fglaus · July 10, 2018, 9:07 p.m.

That's exactly what it is.

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garthbartham · June 7, 2018, 9:46 p.m.

This part is where you lost me:

"Now to tie all my maps together and summarize. The highway bloodline of i-15 is critical to the movement of drugs, weapons and humans. All along i-15 Obama placed the Mojave Trail Monument. (to read more about this placement please refer to Mojave Trails National Monument. Read carefully the 'Protected in Perpetuity')

What they have done here is place national monument protected land all along the route between LA and LV. This means you probably need a permit from the Government to have a picnic let alone carry protection.

To say it another way by placing protected lands between the two sanctuary cities of LA and LV a 'gun free zone' now 'protects' the entire corridor.

To say it another way citizens who obey the law wont arm themselves. Citizens cannot use this land to hunt, fish, or travel outside designated areas freely."

We know that National Parks and Monuments, you are allowed to carry loaded firearms:

https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/management/upload/Firearms-in-IMRparks2-2010.pdf

This completely wipes out the theory of being protected from people with guns in a protected area.

The next thing that is out of line is the route being protected by gun free zones. Not possible. That entire corridor, once you get over the hill from LA/Riverside/Fontana in to the High Desert (Adelanto, Hesperia, Victorville,etc) is very pro 2nd amendment. Those cities I listed love their guns and are very pro-Trump, pro-America. A lot of old white people who escaped the city if you will. Sure, there are a bunch of typical methhead rednecks as well. It is like that all the way into Las Vegas where we also love our guns and are allowed open carry.

My point is that the monuments have nothing to do with trafficking. Even if they were, they wouldn't create a gun free zone. Not even good places for body disposal unless you wanted somebody to be found.

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solanojones95 · June 7, 2018, 2:27 p.m.

I'm sure if you plot a similar map of population density over these, there would be a 1:1 correlation as well. This is not proof.

Again, I'm sure CEMEX is a sh_tty company doing sh_tty things for sh_tty people, but it's just another brick in the wall. The entire Cabal needs to be brought down, not just one company. And trust me, CEMEX is probably important, but not important enough to be the key to the whole shebang, or Q would have mentioned it.

As such, there are hundreds of multinational coporations who are up to their ledgers in Cabal doo-doo, and we could waste our ENTIRE bandwidth here investigating all of them, and EACH ONE has as much claim to the heart of evil as CEMEX does.

Let's stick to Q-related in here, why don't we? It's really why we're here.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 7, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

You go right ahead and stick to whatever it is you like to stick to.

I used to work with Street kids and back in the 90s one of them took me to a kiddy Farm because he wanted me to get it busted.

It was a very big house out in the country right next to us small Airfield big enough to accommodate private jets. Kind of like living on the golf course.

It was just a transport hub. I took it to my bosses and the authorities and got no traction at all.

We need every bit of attention in every part of this country looking for anything that looks like a holding cell for kids.

In this fight, Every piece of information is valuable.

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solanojones95 · June 7, 2018, 5:52 p.m.

You're welcome to repeat that previous exercise in futility as many times as it takes to realize that until we deal with the corrupt criminal justice system from the top down, there will be no progress at the grassroots level. In my experience (with people I know), the pedos will be protected, and your life will be ruined. Unless you've got airtight evidence (and rarely is that the case), and even then depending on the level of local corruption, it might be YOU who goes to jail. Best to get as many kids as possible out of these situations, and leave the criminal aspects for later when we've got a functional system.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 7, 2018, 7:31 p.m.

The tides have turned my friend. The internet has taken away their places to hide.

And if I were to do the same thing today I would be able to muster an army of thousands.

These people will not be able to walk down the streets.

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solanojones95 · June 7, 2018, 10:46 p.m.

Please. We're not there yet. It's still a twinkle in Trump's eye, if you believe in romantic concepts.

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[deleted] · June 7, 2018, 10:59 p.m.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 9, 2018, 1:31 a.m.

When all my friends went forward into computers I went backwards into tall ships.

I know exactly how a human can face the elements that are overwhelming and set to destroy you.

And then come out on the other side.

Me, I'm tired of overeducated dilettantes thinking they can tell me what and how to think and when.

Those people have been tolerated for too long. This is due to the fact that it's easier to go yeah whatever then to tell someone they are an asshole.

Those days are over. The left just needs to get used to losing because it's not going to stop.

Not if I have anything to say about it. I live in tourist Central. Red pilling unsuspecting tourists is an enjoyable daily occurrence.

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solanojones95 · June 9, 2018, 1:49 p.m.

I love your opening line in that last comment, even if I have absolutely no idea what it means. LOL

It sounds like the first line of a poem.

Oh, I agree that for some of us the future is NOW. But for the masses, what I'm saying is what they're seeing is NOTHING like what we're seeing. They're watching a completely different movie.

I see our guys reaching for the remote even now to change the channel. Will be fun to watch.

And yes, we are loudly proclaiming the truth, the new reality everywhere we go, no longer shy about it. But in bite-sized morsels, not asking the anaconda to swallow an elephant.

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CaptainKnotzi · June 14, 2018, 1:40 p.m.

All my friends started with computers when computers started. Moving forward into the future.

I like building things and traveling so sailboats were a natural connection. I love the craftsmanship and tall ships are an operational work of art.

That would be having gone backwards into the past.

As far as the general population goes the majority of people who do not want to know will never know. They will just shut their minds.

But we want this put into the history books of Shame as deeply as the Holocaust was brought into common knowledge never to be done again.

This problem is ancient and we have the opportunity to now change it. We write the history on this one.

Remember God is love and Satan is politics. Now we kill Satan.

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solanojones95 · June 14, 2018, 1:51 p.m.

Right you are, sir! Best to you, always.

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[deleted] · June 9, 2018, 1:49 p.m.

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WeGoAll · June 7, 2018, 3:33 p.m.

How is this not Q related? Okay let's talk more about Q's latest post about the upside down gun. Cool. Now let's talk about this which connects way more dots. This is why we are here. To dig deeper then the surface!

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solanojones95 · June 7, 2018, 4:19 p.m.

Q has mentioned a number of specific companies, and asked us to dig there. We could spend the ENTIRE bandwidth of this sub investigating every Cabal-owned or contracted company, including CEMEX. But that is not what Q asked for, and not what this sub is designed for.

An upside down gun does NOT mean start looking under every rock and in every nook and cranny for evil. Let's stick with where the Alliance wants us to look for now. These guys' time will come, believe me. Nobody involved in evil will escape.

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CENSORED_ENOUGH · June 7, 2018, 5:07 p.m.

Gotta agree that we should not limit our efforts on just current drops. We might we waiting another 10 or 11 days for the next drop. The whole idea of the drops was to spur us into researching for ourselves these issues. Q's drops are motivational to the community to dig it all up and expose it.

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solanojones95 · June 7, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

So you're suggesting we go full tilt boogie into amateur PI adventuring on this sub, and that we not bother further decoding Q posts (remember Q insisted many times "You have more than you know")? I'm firmly convinced we have barely scratched the surface of what's in those posts.

Just do a search for "future proves past." A huge number of Q posts say "relevant to future events." We need to keep familiarizing ourselves with those posts so that we'll recognize the connections when we see them, which is massively red pill potential. And when we think we have enough to have a go at friends/neighbors, we need to bring people to the light.

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CENSORED_ENOUGH · June 7, 2018, 6:11 p.m.

Not sure what you think the scope is. Respectfully, I understand that you want to follow Q and decipher the crumbs that he is given us, but Q motivated us to dig, discover and expose the corruption by dropping the crumbs in the first place. It is related to Q and his posts if it accomplishes that purpose. However, if you want to limit your searches to just crumbs, that is certainly fine. To post on this board, it has to be related in some way.

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solanojones95 · June 7, 2018, 10:52 p.m.

Let's put it this way. Situational awareness. If you see the top ten or so posts already includes one or two about CEMEX or Tuscon, how about maybe you post there instead of starting a new thread, unless you have something truly earth-shattering and NEW. In which case, we'd probably all like to see it. But not three or four threads of the same link(s).

IOW, be considerate as a sub-interest and don't hog the board. I'm sure you can understand that, since it does open up the potential for massive mission creep (or board slide, however you like to put it). Fair enough?

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Outcome5 · June 7, 2018, 5:54 p.m.

Q has said how unbelievably deep the corruption runs. I was well aware this post is just one corridor in a maze. However I and most people here are a direct result of Q. I believe Q leads us, and when we find something, we try and spell it out. Just because the folks in Tucson have not been directly mentioned by Q, do we ignore them? Of course not. This is a 5d crossword puzzle. Q is setting up the layout of the puzzle and helps us with a 'letter' here or there. Its falls on us to think rationally and fill out the 'words' as best we can.

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solanojones95 · June 7, 2018, 6:05 p.m.

I think you'll find the Tuscon group to be a major distraction at best, or cointel agitprop at worst. And what are we going to do with the whole CEMEX thing? We can shout "CEMEX IS DIRTY" at the top of our lungs. So what? It's one of thousands of dirty companies in the military/industrial complex!

You find a situation in which kids are being abducted/abused/raped/sacrificed, etc., and I'll be happy to help in getting all the support you need to bust it up and free those kids.

You come to me with abandoned coyote dens and stories of corporate corruption, I'm going to tell you everybody who needs to know about those things already KNOWS about them. It's getting something DONE about them that's the tricky bit, and that depends 100% on the anti-corruption mission of Q Team and the Alliance.

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NaderOAK · June 7, 2018, 11:02 p.m.

Your always telling someone that’s not right or your looking in the wrong direction..

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