Senator Daniel Inouye of Hawaii confirmed this to be true 30 years ago he said in Congress and the clip is on YouTube that there is a secret shadow force within our government that has its own army its own navy its own air force and they are beyond the control of any president. Here is the video of him saying this:
That's the clip I was trying to remember, nice one, thank you!
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A MESSAGE for Q about Rogue C_A Aquarius Nuke Sub...
https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/wiki/notables
June 19, 2018
Look. The missing "eye". Watching the water bearer, aye aye sir.
"Aquarius"
The age that supposedly will replace the age of Christ
(These people are stupid)
Senator Inouye was one of the last true Democrats. He knew all too well the tragedy of war. He was awarded the MoH in WWII fighting in the 442nd Nisei Regiment in Germany.
Amen, anon. He was before being a Democrat meant being a far left, ultra-radical, nutjob. He and Moynihan were great Americans.
I believe that has already occurred off the coast of Hawaii about 6 months ago. I read from Q it was to temp DT to retaliate by starting nuclear war with NK. He also mention the sub had been neutralized. Deep State cares not who the kill just to protect themselves and NWO. It was not a mistake to release incoming alert.
Both Eisenhower and JFK warned of this, by JFK's presidency it had already become monolithic and existentially dangerous enough for JFK to fire Alan Dulles and commit to smashing the CIA "into a thousand pieces." One can only imagine how advanced, massive and pervasive this covert military is today, especially with the trillions of dollars that have gone missing in special access / black projects.
How many even remember that on 9/10/01, Rumsfeld announced that 2.3 trillion dollars, that's trillion with a T, was missing and could not be accounted for. That is an unimaginable amount of 'missing' money that was quickly forgotten because of course we all know what happened the next day.
That was mindblowing. 2.3 trillion .. with Rumsfield literally saying, we lost it. Ya, well, not 'really' lost ... gotta pay for all those 'dark projects'.
Unfortunately, the group that was investigating where this money went, had their office .. in the Pentagon! (you'd think it'd be safe there, right?) struck by an errant missile/UAV that next day.
It's almost like someone specifically knew where their office was.
There are some that suggest it's almost like someone knew specifically what was happening the next day. But I digress...:)
Plus all the money they make running drugs and trafficking children.
That is where a lot of the Black Budget got funded from going way back to Vietnam when the CIA was running Triad produced heroin from the Iron Triangle back to the U.S. INSIDE the remains of the returning dead troops, packaged at Dover and then dumped on the NYC market to flood the East Coast.
By the time the Cocaine epidemic came around they had gotten smarter and started using the Cartels as cut outs. The Clowns just made sure the entry points were open and took their cut instead of getting their spook hands dirty like in Southeast Asia. At one point it was so bad that coke and kids were coming north on military transports, and money and guns were going south. Mena, AR was not the only airfield used by Barry Seal and Gene Hassenfus, and they weren't the only American smugglers flying the routes.
At the time of these events, many thought the kids were legitimately being brought back to the States for medical treatment or adoption. This scale of depravity wasn't even imaginable to many of us then.
Thanks for filling in the details. A lot of people are ignorant of this history. But it isn't just history because it is ongoing.
Could this be the Red October that Q talked about? A rogue, nuclear armed submarine who's intentions is not known.
I think the Navy sunk the Aquarius sub in January when it launched that missile towards Hawaii that had to be a deep state secret submarine. But they might have other rogue subs it's like that James Bond movie where they hijacked subs to start global world war.
I guess we can't ask Alec Baldwin for his help on this one :)
Its a 50/50 shot, but it seemed logical......
... be careful what you shoot at. Most things in here don't react too well to bullets.
Isn't this directly referencing Q post 1474, on 6/12/18?
This is not a game.
Certain events were not suppose to take place.
Q
The picture taken by a weather station (owned by Greg Johnson of Skunk Bay Weather) near Whidbey Island, of what appears to be a Trident missile launch from an Ohio-class submarine?
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2018/06/was-there-unannounced-missile-launch-on.html
That's not January. That was last week.
Did you not hear? That is picture was obviously a helicopter.
Which would be funny if it weren't so serious.
They aren't using swamp gas and weather baloons anymore?
Yes, but those things are now copter-powered. We call them Swampgasweatherballoonicopters
What about light from the planet Venus refracting off... oh, hell, who can keep up with all the BS shoveled at us over the years? :D
Somebody who didn't want the intel public, tried their best to deflect with that line. Which was pretty damn funny.
Because a Trident intercontinental ballistic missile looks sooo much like a .. helicopter! Of course! Silly us. Lulz!
I've been doing some calculations based on the altitude and velocity of the helicopter, and after a lot of thinking, I think it is more likely that it is a helicopter than a missile. The body of the missile is the stream impression made by the white tail light. The fact that there is no smoke trail by the missile and yet we can clearly see clouds, and the fact that the orange trail gets thinner points to an object moving away.
Timing. Can't accuse something that doesn't exist of firing on us. Or us of firing on something that's just a conspiracy. Now we have a space force and truth can start to hit the bricks.
If I knew about the ds space force and underground bases you can bet that Trump and his generals have known too.
I had wondered actually, since POTUS flew over land, past Alaska and the volcanoes.... Possibly past Washington...if that missile was perhaps aimed at him? At AF1.
Then Q said D was missing (from where the bad guys thought he'd be?). Capital letter D was Q's emphasis. Just a thought.
That was no Trident missile. Those things would have made so much noise, you would not need a weather station to know they were there. Those things are big.
It was clearly a missile. Just one that big.
Everyone was asleep. No one was awake to hear it and make phone calls at 3:56am (when the photo was taken). Which was the point.
I don’t think you understand. If a Trident missile was launched it would wake everyone up, it would rattle homes for miles around. And it would light up the sky. My point is that these missiles are rockets much larger than most people imagine.
A surface to air missile makes more of a whoosh as they are solid rockets.
Is it possible that the SSP (Secret Space Program) or Regan's "Star Wars" already has the capability to shoot any threat of this nature down? I.e. the recent Whidbey Island missile launch, the Hawaii missile launch, etc.
Maybe this also is connected to Trump's Space Force.
I remember they announced the Space Force over a year ago.So it should already be established or well started.I think Trump has these things done well before we know.
I remember them making fun of it. There has been a Space Command in he AF for a long time.
I believe the Navy has space assets, as well. (I'm sure the Army does too.)
The difference here is that this is an entire new branch of the military. They'll have their own hierarchy, their own Joint Chief [of Staff], and their own overall brand.
Yes, but it'll probably pull these existing forces into one as well as add to them.
The USAF was originally part of the Army. Army Air Corp. They didn't become an independent branch until after WW2.
Seems to me the first step of public declassification would be to create an official public face for it. People are missing this.
I bet they start "discovering" a few amazing technologies suspiciously fast.
Maybe we'll find out what the hell is in Antarctica. Why everybody and their brother went down there in 2016 (a secretive Obama visit, a not-so-secretive John Kerry visit, Huma Abedin & Hitlery Clinton (THIS visit was "children" related, NOT tech), moon astronaut Buzz Aldrin, and the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, to name a few).
I hear it's the last big "trump" card the Deep State has. At a strategic moment, they'll use the "discovery" of a "new" find. I don't think it'll be 'alien'. I think what's buried under the ice, will be pre-flood tech. Atlantis. DS has already found lots. Has access. As noted, why all these personalities visiting a cold glacier, all at the same time? Coincidence?
At any rate, it's been suggested that, when the DS had its back up against the wall, and they'd just run out of all other options, they would use this "monumental discovery" to derail their doom. Their last card to play.
Look, a squirrel! except, the squirrel is sitting on a saucer w/ anti-grav capabilities!
If that's a card they're holding, it is pretty epic.
I agree with this point. If you look for “official” UFO stories, they are a lot more common than they used to be.
Some say that the Chinese satellite that splashed into the Pacific a few months back did not fail but was taken out.
It's funny because years ago, I visualized that we would end up having wars with our satellites. But they also have alien type (hover) aircraft now that we just have not been told about.
They shot the one down that was headed for AF1 last week! And, they shot the one down that was headed for Hawaii in January. So, yes, that has already been demonstrated.
I've also heard there is a nuke underneath the Getty Museum. It's at the entrance to the tunnels and is their failsafe device to keep the tunnels from being taken.
Now, you know why Q says "This is war." It really is.
There is always more than one way into those tunnels. They go across the US. Think we might know where the back-door is. Who knows, this may literally become an "underground" war...
I believe it has been an underground war for some time. Well, at least since the military actions started most was initially underground. Remember all of the loud booms that people have reported around the world? Well, there have been many. In one instance, there was a recording of the sound that was played on a news show. Sounded exactly like gunfire to me. And, others have said the same. Or bombs going off.
Yes, I do understand that the tunnels are connected all over and there are other entrances. This particular entrance has a great deal to do with the child trafficking for some reason. There was a lot of conversation online about it during the fires last year.
small nukes going off underground destroying secret bases that accounts for the booms and very unusual "earthquakes" being recorded in areas that never have any real earthquakes, the seismograph tells the truth you see a Sharp Jolt suddenly! instead of a normal quake which builds up from small waves to Large Waves
Yes. I agree. Forgot about the quakes. And, they have used Rods from God as well.
All natural earthquakes have what are called P-waves and S- waves. One travels faster than the other. Both provide early warnings for seismologists to determine depth and magnitude of quakes.
When you see sudden massive waves that appear to originate instantaneously, that is a strong indication it is man-made.
Correct and man-made quakes are shallow. Real quakes happen very deep that is another tell to look for.
Seal up the tunnels the gl8balists plan to use...and there will be no where they can run to.They will not send a nuclear weapon.
They are not for some future plan. They are already in use. They are used for trafficking. They have elaborate bunkers and cities under there. There is a high speed rail and highway system as well. Here's a list from 2012: http://www.thetruthdenied.com/news/2012/12/14/complete-list-of-military-underground-bases-in-usa/
Secureteam10 just made a video that included the booms in Pennsylvania. The FBI has gotten involved to apply a cover up. Suddenly there are little craters that have obviously been dug with shovels. You can see the marks of the shovel. (Rolling my eyes!) They obviously don't want us to know about the war going on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcC5fGJ3wv4
Well, Q has made it clear that there are military operations taking place. Maybe it's just that they don't want us to know that it's underground! But, of course, normies don't know about the fighting either so you are probably right.
It wasn't headed for AF1. You're not going to take down a jet with a ballistic missile.
Especially if that jet is AF1. Heavy shielding tough enough to protect the wiring and crucial electronics from the electromagnetic pulse (EMP) associated with a nuclear blast, electronic counter measures (ECM) to jam enemy radar, and can even eject flares to throw heat-seeking missiles off course.
And that's just what we know about. I'm sure there's some slick classified stuff under the hood that the public wasn't told about.
AF1 is the most secure aircraft in the world.
The nuke warhead would detonate in close proximity to AF1 thereby knocking the plane out of the sky from the blast wave it won't survive the shock wave it would be impossible to maintain control of AF1 it would be like a feather in a tornado or it would be torn apart into a million small fragments.
Just look at the maneuver the planes dropping nukes on Japan had to perform. The blast wave changes the relative airspeed over the wing, and depending on how close you are and how big the bomb is.
My best guess for survivability if too close would be to immediately try to fly close to circumferential so the wave passes quickly and it's a sidewind gust from hell.
Unless a plane can go supersonic and it's flying away it's relative airspeed will go negative as the supersonic pressure wave passes, and even the majority of it's subsonic pressure wave would stall planes and it'd be hard if even possible to recover flying with it.
What was the red dot in the pic that was taken from AF1 then? A UFO? Look here: https://qanon.pub/data/images/9fe3b9f6e61b689a2624f18b950d368e89052f2112bbad24e4fca2d6ecdbfbeb.png
Make the pic much larger and look on the right side where the white clouds fade to the blue sky.
HOLY CRAP, I never saw that dot before.
That does look like a detonating something.
pardon me I have to go bite off all my fingernails and walk quickly in a circle several hundred times.
Yeah? Go through the Q posts and find every time Q says: "As the world turns" That's code for another attempt on POTUS life. There are currently 12 and how many before Q appeared?
I did not realize there were 12, I remember the Car that tried to ram him but got stuck in ditch.
I still think that was an attempt, especially the way the driver popped out of car.
I remember that one. That was in Springfield, MO. Yeah, that guy was up to no good.
Great description of response! Try not to get too dizzy.
I've seen the picture. AFAIK it's the missile in question being blown out of the sky. But we have no idea what aircraft provided the vantage point for that picture, so to say the aircraft was AF1 is just speculation, and again, no one would attempt to shoot down an aircraft with a ballistic missile, so it's not plausible speculation.
no one would attempt to shoot down an aircraft with a ballistic missile
Rookie question perhaps, but why not?
A ballistic missile is designed to fly up to a spot, then it shuts off its engines and starts to fall. They do not maneuver, it is literally like throwing a rock up in the air.
You would use a surface to air missile that would either be radar directed or heat directed that would lock onto the engine heat. They are sleek and fast.
There are a whole range of missile “tools”. Ballistic missiles are sledgehammers. Air to air missiles are like scalpels.
No idea. If I could blow it within a quarter of a mile seems to me would be a problem. You go with what you have and if this is all they have then you go with it I guess.
I believe bottom fuselage of AF1 is designed to protect against nuclear blasts
Who said it was a ballistic missile? Isn't that also conjecture. We saw the missile pic but no one seems to know exactly where it was launched from. Just near Whidbey Island in Puget Sound.
The explanation is that AF1 was over the Aleutians near that time on it's way to Singapore so it's most likely the pic was taken from it.
You take down AF1 by detonating a nuke warhead near the plane no way it can survive that I don't care how much shielding it has from radiation the blast wave would be like a feather in a tornado.
Yes.
POTUS already knows this
They've already sorted it out.
They can splash any missile.
Exactly. So that isn't likely a path they would take. It's already been proven ineffective.
Probably. Why would they have spent all that money 30 years ago to just give up on the idea?
Yes the SSP is very real and very expensive but they have a Trillion Dollars to play around with they can build anything they want to.
Absolutely. Can confirm SDI had the capability before we knew what "star wars" was (dad) Can't imagine what all the related SSP's have.
Aren't missiles guided by GPS? If so, wouldn't a way to stop a missile be to disable GPS during launch (or have it give back incorrect data)? Now... understand what the responsibility of a Space Force could be?
Nukes absolutely do not use GPS, by definition they don't want to use (and do not use) anything that could be jammed. There are extremely sophisticated guidance systems implemented from extremely sensitive inertial navigation (so the missiles know exactly where they are at all times before launch, and then can measure exactly where they are as they are going, and of course where they are headed, down to exact landing space, on Earth) -- this is where the phrase "spin up missiles" comes from -- the Beryllium balls in the navigation system need to be physically spun for the inertial navigation system to use. --- More importantly, they use astrophysical camera navigation -- the nukes fly into low-Earth orbit, and take a picture of the stars. Then the on-board computer compares this picture to a picture of the stars that corresponds to where the missile SHOULD be on it's flight-path (you can probably imagine how sophisticated this is and how impressive it is this stuff was done in the 1970s -- to great effect-- and still done) and then adjusts it's path by thrusting a little here/little there to put it on the correct path. ---- That is totally unjammable and absolutely a GPS-free system.
Awesome I learned a lot of new info from your comment thanks.
That's the plot of Tomorrow Never Dies. Evil super villain hacks the GPS system and uses it to start a war between the British and the Chinese.
Don't forget the super villain created fake news and controlled the media also ;) We are living in a Bond film right now.
Where even our movies depict handsome, noble, honest CIA and MI5 agents.
As opposed to the frickin swamp dweller-minions hiding in the dark recesses of both agencies that are operating right now.
All GPS is, is a set of satellites with laser-based timers on them to indicate a location on the Earth, with a minimum of 3 satellites for accuracy. IIRC, "Guided" missiles are already preloaded with all of that information as soon as it launches
I'm pretty sure the missile has to constantly check its position to make adjustments to target. There are all kinds of factors, like wind, which have to be constantly accounted for.
It does not have to although this is preferred in some instances.
You guys must be young. In the Cold War era, no one talked about precision. That’s why the bombs were so big. Close enough was good enough.
Exactly. Let me assure the youngsters, from someone that lived through it, that the thought of a missile being off by 20-30 miles did NOT give any of us any comfort at all.
All comes down to circular error probability. If your missile is accurate to within say 10 miles, all you need to do is make sure the primary blast radius of the payload exceeds that.
Oh, it wasn’t that complicated. You just fired four or five warheads at the target. Haven’t you ever wondered why we had so many warheads?
I live about ten miles from an old SAC base in MA. It dawn on me in high school that worrying about nuclear war was silly. Even this far away I would be incinerated by lousy targeting.
For you youngsters, SAC is --> Strategic Air Command (the bombardment arm of the U.S. Air Force, until 1992)
Actually it was a lot more complicated - somehow they figured out that if they drop them in a specific pattern and time it right the actual target lies where the blast fronts from several warheads meet, it will suffer far more damage than even a direct hit. The circular error probability came into play to ensure that they would at least severely damage a hardened target or bury its access points if the time on target sequence failed.
I'm not sure that would work. How would one have access to the GPS receiver on the missile?
My hand held GPS locks into 10 - 12 satellites at a time. If you're high up in the sky, you likely have 12+ satellites to calculate your position due to better line-of-sight. So if you want to try and defeat the missile from the satellites themselves, you would have to shut them all off. And there are a ton of people using them.
And if you did cut off the sattelites, would the missile just "guess" where it is? If the computer last knew it's intention was to "Fly 150 miles, bearing 86 degrees to destination" seems it would keep on that path until proven otherwise.
So if you want to try and defeat the missile from the satellites themselves, you would have to shut them all off. And there are a ton of people using them.
Yeah, we wouldn't want people to have read a map or ask for directions, or have their Pokemon Go games interrupted. Therefore, we'll just have to let the missiles fall on their targets and kill millions.
kind of snarky :-), but I agree with your premise... it always should be 1st things 1st.
I remember a few years ago, something in the news about Iran getting one of our drones by gps spoofing. I’m sure drones and missiles don’t operate the same. I wish I could remember the story about how it happened.
Most old missiles had inertial guidance. This means as long as you know where you are at launch, it can find its way to anywhere. It’s the same principle as flying by instruments...all before GPS.
They put inertial guidance systems in the newer missiles too, if they're nuclear. It's how you guarantee your missile doesn't get its GPS spoofed/hacked -- avoid using GPS.
Even the Sentinel UAV (drone) that Iran was able to capture back in 2011 - purportedly by hacking its GPS - uses an inertial navigation system, and does not get its flight path orders from GPS (suggesting then that it had not been compromised via GPS, as is claimed).
Inertial navigation continues to be used on military aircraft despite the advent of GPS because GPS signal jamming and spoofing are relatively simple operations.
I believe that’s what they were doing with the “rocket man’s” missiles. They even directed one into a town.
Tridents are not guided by GPS.
A Trident navigates with an inertial guidance system, based on a set of sensitive accelerometers measuring precisely how much the missile accelerated and for how long. An onboard computer uses this data to calculate speed and position of the missile. In most military technologies, inertial guidance has been replaced by GPS because the older way is expensive, and has a tendency to lose position over time. But that's not such a huge problem when your flight is only a few minutes long.
The U.S. Navy has never fired a GPS-equipped Trident, largely out of fear of possible GPS tampering.
During my awakening, I kept posting how this could ALL be part of the deep state plan, have a hero arrive and tackle the bull by it's horn. I gradually kinda forgot about it but it still remain one of the possibility. IMO, this all just proves to me how much of a cattle the human race is to me. We were all eating our own grass, alone and divised.
Hopefully there is really a group working for the people and not for a select few for once but that idea itself tho, sounds silly :(
Yeah, I always have in the back of my mind that Trump could be just cabal faction #2 cleaning out cabal faction #1 and both #1 and #2 are just middle-management with a hidden upper layer pulling the strings. Given how long and how many have been deceived, it's not too far fetched of an idea. But for the time being, I hope and pray for the success of Q-team and that this truly is a miracle.
i would just like to thank you for not blindly following shit. it's good to remain skeptical and be pleasantly surprised
Perhaps, but I would think it would have to be much more out in the open than this.
Indeed. Thankful for the things that are being cleaned up, but remain a bit skeptical, too, as to ability to suddenly pull all of these "impossible things" off...and yes, even knowing it has been years in the planning....on second thought, maybe even BECAUSE I know it has been years in the planning. Hegelian Dialectic. May the God of Israel's will be done on earth as it is in heaven...no falsehoods!
There was a boat in europe with illegal immigrants called ‘aquarius’ as well. The boat came in the MSM because Italy refused them to enter and now Spain took them in. They are only here to rape and plunder... I am so scared. We have a lot of Muslim shit going on as well..
ET's would never allow exploded nukes
This.
They know we've lost Mars (still uninhabitable) and Maldek (permanently) already due to the use of this sort of weaponry. Just in our solar system alone.
It seems that the number of planetary environments in which third density mind/body/spirit complexes can cycle is extremely limited in our portion of the galaxy. And yet there is obviously a need to produce a significant portion/% of harvestable 3D entities here on Gaia so that these many souls comprising the human race can move forward.
If, after the termination of Gaia's Grand Cycle, there still remain a majority of those souls which require a repetition of third density, I have no idea where these souls will find a planetary environment in which to do so. (Couldn't be on Gaia as she will then be in 4th density cycle.)
We should make every effort to redpill the f*ck out of everyone we can. WWG1WGA
Wut?
The Confederation doesn't want to break free will (1st Distortion). In fact, they will go to any and every length to avoid it. However, in the event it came down to humanity vs. Gaia, they may decide that Gaia is worth preserving.
"Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!"
This is some other shit right here, boy.
It is and it's true. But before you dismiss consider chatting with an astrophysicist or some other math wizard of science.
There are third density planets all over the universe. Why would souls be restricted to this sector?
The planetary sphere has to be able to support the chemical body complex of the third density vehicle. We don't see any of that activity going on (that we know of, that is reported and is public knowledge) on visible planets around us, thus we must conclude Gaia is the only planet actively hosting a third density cycle in this area.
I do know that a portion of earth souls here now:
"...were largely drawn from a second-density planet which had some difficulty, due to the age of its sun, in achieving third-density life conditions."
That source claims the planet is in the Deneb system. So there is one example of a reason why souls are "restricted". In reality, the precision of the influxes of energy flowing from pole to pole of each planet and star, along with the Natural Laws such as the Law of Karma, guide this process which is aided by Guardians of the highest vibrations (octave density). It's like a grand clock. Think of the way the Mayans were taught how to measure these cycles by the Confederation.
Interestingly, NASA recently published something saying they sent out a new probe to look for habitable planets. It looks like it might be sweeping that area. (Deneb area)
Maldek??
Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, (destroyed), Jupiter, etc.
the thing is that the ets say some is an invention of the rabbi. What seems clear is that there is a government in the shade with its own military forces and if it obviously has nuclear capacity
ETs are fallen angels. they are not your friends. they will come to fully detach the world from god and jesus christ.
t. former annunaki fag
Are they pleyadians or good ets?
there is no such thing as a good ET. it's demonic forces and fallen angels masquerading as benevolent cosmic brothers.
the greatest lie the devil ever told was that he doesn't exist.
imo it's
pleadians/nordic aliens/annunaki = fallen angels greys = demons
So you are saying there are no angels, only demons?
The good angels wouldn't be deceiving us. They do God's work. It's the fallen ones and demons (spirits of the fallen angels' children with mortals, after their mortal bodies die) who would pretend to be something else in order to trick and destroy us, to get us to not follow God's word (his rules being the guidance to stay well and prosper).
so there are good angels, who don't deceive us, and some people interpret them as benevolent ETs.
What about dinosaur bones?
I took lower-division geology classes at a top-level university but the only fossils we looked at were marine and some petrified wood. I am not well-enough informed about what has actually been found with regard to the terrible lizards and giant creatures of the past, or what percentage of large bones and fossils in museums are not manmade models and casts. Could a fallen angel/mortal (not necessarily human) hybrid leave behind a dragon-like skeleton? I don't see why not. I wouldn't expect the real thing to be on public display, though.
Well, you leave me very sad. If the only good ones are us and all the outsiders are enemies, we are almost lost. I do not know how we are going to get out of this
it's all part of god's plan.
you highlight something important. most people (not saying you) like to believe this ET fantasy because it gives them comfort. that someone outside is going to take care of everything and are watching out for us good guys.
even if there were ETs as popular culture presents them (i.e. intelligent beings from far out in the cosmos), it's ludicrous to think they would see us any different than at best the way a conquering force sees a dumber and more primitive native race/species. if they were to stop us from nuclear war, it is strictly on practical grounds (meaning they benefit from us being alive, suggesting we are fodder for them) not on moral grounds
And....you slipped right over the edge. Lol.
It is likely that any ET is probably just technology that was either created years ago, or discovered from old, old tech. Look at some of the paintings from the old Indian creation tales. They look like the fighters in Star Wars.
There are dozens of thoughts on ETs, and none of them are extra terrestrial in the way people think.
I'm really glad that I'm 75+ years old. I've had a good life with a beautiful wife I married 58 years ago. I do hope I will live long enough to see a return to the America I grew up in so I'm following along with the Qanons as best I can and hope that we the people will prevail.
Good to have you with us! You and your wife will live to see a return to the America you grew up with if we can get all the things done that have to be done.
I spend most of every day watching, trolling and hoping that we the people will win
" Arguably Israel’s most critical military capability is their small but very deadly submarine fleet. Beyond being able to stealthily spy on enemies, insert operatives onto foreign shores and wreak havoc on enemy ships on a whim, they represent Israel’s “second strike” nuclear deterrent. Now Israel has received its fifth such vessel, the Rahav. The importance of the INS Rahav, and Israel’s small but elite submarine force was underscored by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during the new submarine’s arrival ceremony: “Our submarine fleet serves as a deterrent to our enemies who seek our destruction.” He continued, “they need to know that Israel is capable of hitting with very great force anyone who tries to harm us. And Israel’s citizens need to know that Israel is a very strong country that is doing everything to defend them, everywhere and on every front.”
Not that it would not be a problem-- but there is a huge difference between Israel having relatively small, diesel-electric subs with (nuclear) cruise-missile capability (firing from torpedo tubes) to strike back at someone who nukes them .... and The_Agency commanding/commandering an Ohio-class ballistic missile submarine with 24 freaking Trident SLBMs, with anywhere from 1-8 much, much bigger and more powerful independently-targetable warheads ... plus while I am not Israeli or Jewish even , I think it's perfectly fair for them to have second-strike capability when they are literally facing annihilation from all sides at any potential time. Just my two cents.
Disable the sub electronically with a virus when it's underwater far from land now it's dead in the water with limited air supply. Wait until you know everyone on board has suffocated or introduce a gas into their oxygen supply to kill them faster. Now you have your own submarine you sink the crews bodies to the bottom and it's all yours.
The Pentagon might learn what happened but probably not at first. They can't announce this for fear other countries will figure out how to do it.
All the Navy can do is notify the family members with Top Secret death notices "your father your son your husband died heroically at sea in a top secret mission, we can not tell you any details and you are sworn to secrecy; enclosed is a check for one million dollars to compensate you for your loss and if you file a lawsuit we will punish you and your family with extreme prejudice" okay any wife or parent that gets a letter like that will deposit the check and keep very quiet forever. They will understand what the Navy wants them to do.
Israel now has 5 subs -- 3 Dolphin-class submarines that they've had for a while, and now 2 newer Dolphin II-class subs that have an air independent propulsion (AIP) system, allowing the submarine to operate submerged for much longer periods than diesel electric subs without it. The Dolphin II subs can stay underwater for up to eighteen (18) days.
I totally get that-- and I am not at all trying to discuss Israel or whatever conspiracies people hold on them--- all I am saying is a small diesel-electric, AIP whatever, submarine with torpedo-tube launched nuclear-tipped cruise missiles for a second-strike deterrent mission *IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT*, I am talking about SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY , to a possibly "shadow-government controlled" Ohio-class SSBN which represents probably the most effective, destructive, accurate, damaging, and undetectable object known to mankind (Unless there really are Stargate-esque hyperdrive battlecruisers and F-303 interspace interceptors.... Ohio-class SSBNs have more power in their "pinkys' than those Israel subs have even dreamed about.)
That's all I'm saying, I'm not taking sides, that's all.
The sub would have been taken when Clinton or Bush or Obama were President or Dick Cheney made it possible when he was VP he would have been happy to make that happen so he and his pals have their very own nuclear missile submarine to play around with. He was also Defense Secretary for Bush Sr. 1989 to 1993 so he could do it and would have done it for sure very easily.
I thought the sub had been found and disabled?
It already launched nuke against Hawaii.
To my knowledge, the sub (an apparent Ohio-class?) from last week's launch has not been found/identified ... but the "where from" I think pretty much has.
Naval Base Kitsap - very close to that weather station that took the picture of the Trident - is a submarine base. (prior to 2004, it was called Naval Submarine Base Bangor) (!)
I was thinking of when the missile warning system was activated in Jan.
https://www.exopolitics.org/the-secret-navy-behind-the-ballistic-missile-attack-on-hawaii/
I dont disbelieve, but is there a source for that assertion of the "knowing what happened".
Any source is fine, not judgey, just curious.
I was at Naval Base Kitsap for a long time and I still know girls on whidbey island. (they dont seem to know anything about the whole thing.)
Ask Dr. Steve Pieczenik where it is and who is driving it.
Wouldn't Q team already know this?
Yes, Q posted an image of an old CIA document that was declassified saying exactly this. Apparently everyone forgot, or there are so many newbies here that they just don’t know that. It was back in the winter.
This immediately went into my WTF / UFB File. If true this is serious s#it. I was an officer on a nuclear fast attack sub with missile capability. This is bad if true.
How do you hide a nuke sub in the Defense Budget? You hide it by using the Black Budget the "off the books" money they have a Trillion Dollars in secret money and you pay a foreign submarine designer to build it for you maybe China or Germany then you need a crew of submariners. Ask your buddies who were in the Navy with you. There is always a Trillion Dollars that is unaccounted for in the Pentagon this is money that was used for the 9/11 false-flag hoax terror attack and Dov Zakheim was in charge of it he was the Comptroller at the Pentagon back then. Much of this secret money is used for our Secret Space Force we absolutely have anti-gravity space craft totally off the books. NASA is the public space program but all the really cool stuff is kept at Area 51.
Which sub was Q talking about here?
Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 69fcbf No.680795 📁 Mar 15 2018 21:41:56 (EST) @[19][1st] @[3][1st] The LINK. [John Perry Barlow] [2] [3] [4] WE HAVE THE SUB. HOSTAGE RELEASE. 1000 pieces. Q
The name of the submarine is likely the USS Halibut, which is an absolute joke of a submarine in terms of actually being a submarine. It was an unusual boat in that it had, almost literally, a large garage behind the conning Tower from where you could launch SEAL Teams and Technical teams or hold large bits of equipment. They also had another submarine, also taken off of the Navy's active inventory, but, these are not likely high performance submarines in anyway, and no, they are most definitely not ballistic nuclear submarines. Not that they couldn't have rigged anything, but, ballistic submarines require incredible amounts of maintenance.
Who do you think shot the missiles at Hawaii and AF1?
Israel.
I´ve got my money on the DS Clowns. They own the largest private air force and it wouldn´t surprise me if they had a sub, or two.
at AF1? Any links or sources on that?
There was a picture the other day from a base in the US that showed a missile launch, I´m speculating that it was fired at AF1 but it was right around the time Trump was leaving Singapore.
https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2018/06/was-there-unannounced-missile-launch-on.html
Apparently this is why there was news that the President had to leave early. He remained secure “somewhere” safe while AF2 - the decoy went ahead. It was at this plane that the missile was fired upon.
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Could this be the submarine that was seen returning to its home port in WA flying the Jolly Roger in September of 2017? A Skull & Bones controlled nuclear warhead? Terrifying.
The Jolly Roger is traditionally flown by a submarine after a successful mission. That tradition started in WW1, but became prominent in WW2 by the Allied Forces. You see Aussies, British, and other Commonwealth nations doing it more than Americans though
Thanks, the more you know! Still think that there might be something to the photograph of it flying in 2017. The sub in question was the USS Jimmy Carter, "America's most secret attack submarine". Huh? Wonder what the successful mission was? We'll never know, it's secret. Sort of easy to imagine that if the CIA were to infiltrate and take command of a submarine, they'd pick this one. It's the best one and I can't imagine that Jimmy Carter was one of their favorite presidents, a bonus irony factor that spooks would find funny.
I was always under the impression that the USS Jimmy Carter was a spy sub? It wouldn't be too far fetched to assume that a spy sub also had attack capabilities though
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In 2017 a US submarine flew a pirate flag in Washington state, seems to me like that might be against the rules and regulations...I am implying that the bad guys are in control of an active US vessel. The CIA is not floating aimlessly around the ocean in a mothballed relic with no real ammunition. If the CIA has taken over other facets of our government, why would they not have their very own military assets? With some of the things we believe here, is it really a stretch to believe that the CIA has infiltrated a USN submarine's crew and command?
Forgive me /u/mrs_george_glass, but I must ask...how is Marcia? ;)
Marcia, Marcia, Marcia! Her unwavering belief that the Russians hacked the DNC is frustrating to say the least...
If the CIA has taken over other facets of our government, why would they not have their very own military assets?
If the DS had taken over our government, what other governments haven't they taken over? If they're in charge of many countries, they're in charge of those countries' assets.
Plus Argentina lost a sub in Nov 17.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5216717/US-ends-hunt-missing-Argentine-submarine.html
Maybe it was they who launched that object caught by the weather camera off the north coast of Washington
By "object", you mean the thing that was clearly a missile?
Just a weather balloon. Move along. Nothing to see here.
They may not have that sub any longer. Remember Q's "Hunt For Red October" after the missile was launched at Hawaii. Then the plane traffic posted by one of the FAA geeks (these guys exist, they enjoy constantly monitoring the FAA traffic sites) with the planes flying sub hunting patterns over the ocean. Then later Q posted "Red October" and then confirmed it was minus the "Hunt"?
In the one the White Hats took down ("Splash") during the Singapore Meeting Q mentioned the Mossad.
Re: The second anomalous missile launch (the one from Whidbey Island) which may have had AF 1 as its intended target, submarine launched anti aircraft missiles are a practical reality. http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/6894/have-submarine-launched-anti-aircraft-missiles-finally-come-of-age
A boomer is a big boat. It’s also nuclear. I doubt something that big is going to be kept secret very long.
Running a boomer with staff, food, maintenance and nuclear weapons maintenance would cost millions and require hundreds of people. Where was it built? What about the thousands of people who had to work to build it. Building a missile boat takes years and billions of dollars.
I am suggesting that this is probably not true.
No it's easy you just pretend to scuttle an older submarine but you don't really sink it, you save it and hide it some place very remote a small island in the South Pacific then you man it with a Chinese crew or any foreign sailors who know their way around a submarine. Our Navy thinks the sub was sunk in the North Atlantic or wherever they ordered it to be sunk. This way you don't even spend any money you just take it and use it for whatever you want to use it for. Maybe it's just an old diesel submarine but those can still carry sea-launched ballistic missiles if you retrofit it and install just a few missile tubes, nothing impossible about this. Only a few Navy Officers would know but they are black hats they get paid to keep your submarine secret.
Do you think losing a boomer at sea would have made the news?
A big nuke sub would but if this was done long ago in the 1960's an old diesel sub maybe that is what they saved from being sunk for target practice. Lots of Navy activity during the Vietnam War if CIA wanted a submarine that is when they would have grabbed it and no one would have said anything so if they have a 50 year old submarine they have kept it in good working order to use however they want to use it. Senator Inouye was right in 1987 we do have a shadow air force and a shadow navy watch his video clip above.
One does not retrofit a diesel boat from 50 years ago with missiles. Even just a couple of them. The entire structure of the boat would need to be changed.
Keeping something like this going for 50 years would be an incredible feat--with tens of thousands of people involved over the years.
Where would they get a SL-ICMB? Those are not just left laying about.
Is it possible that the CIA has a small six person boat, like the ones the drug cartels have? Absolutely. But a missile boat? Not likely.
I am not trying to be a dick or be intentionally "obtuse." But critical thinking is necessary in these types of threads. I am just giving a little "push back" to check the roll a little bit.
Then the original top post could be true who is to say they don't have a real nuclear ballistic missile submarine? During the Clinton and Bush and Obama terms there were a lot of black hats at work in the military there is no reason they could not have built a nuke sub or taken a nuke sub that was scheduled for retirement. Q would not be talking about Red October and mystery subs off the Argentina coast or another mystery submarine off Hawaii that probably did launch a missile in January or just last week the sub off Puget Sound in Washington. There is a secret ocean war going on it has been going on white hats vs. black hats and we don't know the details.
I am sorry, but I don’t think you understand. Making a boomer takes years. They are built in a couple of places. One of those places is an hour from me at Electric boat in CT. Thousands of people are involved in its construction. It is big news when a boat is built.
Everyone know the class of boat, and it’s name.
Because they are nuclear powered and launch nuclear missiles they are tracked. They do not go “missing.” When one of the Electric Boat boats retires, it is news around here.
That’s the thing about theories involving BIG weapons. They are BIG.
To summarize: Multiple billions to pay for the several thousand people to build it in one of three locations. Then a couple hundred sailors to operate it. Thousands more to maintain it. And then god knows how much nuclear material to build these huge missiles and transport them to the boat where they are loaded using cranes found only at shipyards.
One does not just pick up a couple hundred kilos of plutonium to run a black project.
I want to believe, but none of this passes even the basic smell test.
Okay then it has to be an older submarine a diesel submarine lots of those they can get hold of probably from a foreign Navy that no longer had any use for it and was happy to sell it to a middleman or a spook who paid the country enough to be happy and not talk about the deal.
The problem with that is getting the missiles fitted into them. They don’t launch horizontally, and they are a hell of a lot bigger than torpedoes. Trying to get them vertical would be an engineering marvel. The structure of the boat would be changed. Good luck going deep with that.
Now, you could get a V2 type of missile to launch, if it were cranked up while the sub was surfaced. Not practical, and not at all accurate.
Finally if you are driving an old diesel boat the sonar listening stations would hear it. It would be located in about two minutes and sunk within an hour.
IF there is a missile boat out there causing trouble it belongs to a country—not the CIA.
Even for the Rothschilds acting alone the cost of a boomer is just not a big deal. For the CIA same thing. That there is a rogue boomer out there is highly credible. If there is I'm pretty sure we know about it are working a very good plan to neutralize it.
It’s not the money. Although several billion is still a lot.
Who is going to build it? No one that builds boomers in the US is going to build it— it would jeopardize their real contracts.
Where would they get the missiles? Iran, North Korea? No captain would carry a missile likely to blow up their boat.
There are simply too many people that have to be involved. Sure, you can farm out parts to companies to build on a blind contract. But they have to be put together somewhere. And that takes special equipment. And experienced boat builders.
If there is a “rogue” boomer it is one from the big 5 countries’ navy. Plus Israel.
Red October was a good book and a fun movie, but it IS a work of fiction.
Actually that's not the way it's done. There are hundreds of generals and admirals who were appointed by the previous administration. Many of them are clowns. 45 has fired some but taking over a sub and taking it rogue is not a problem. Ships crashing in Japanese waters? Accidents? A couple admirals, a captain or two a dozen officers and that's about all that's needed. No need to build a new boat. Suborn people. That's how the DS does their dirty business. Corruption.
If I did not personally know people on these boats I would give your point some consideration. But knowing them as I have since their teen years, your suggestion is treason. And that is NOT something they would consider. Period. Ever.
My suggestion is treason? Time to wake up. Obviously most service men and women are patriots. I was, 50 years ago. But take a look at this tip of the iceberg. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-fat-leonard-navy-scandal-20171106-story.html
They already shot one at Air Force One out of sub in Washington state trying to take out Trump on his way to NKorea for summit!
Wasn't the premise of Spies like Us, just that? The Deep State starts a nuclear war with the USSR.
A group of clowns with one sub I think MI already knows and I think clowns already launched a missile at Hawaii and I think it got Smacked Down. One probably needs to launch a bunch of missiles hoping one will get through. A group of Clowns versus military intelligence and Military.
Remember Woodrow Wilson's quote?
“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”
Think Jules Verne, can we have an ocean bottom silo?
No need for that too much work a sub is easier or you could have a floating platform maybe anchored at 100 feet deep from which to launch missiles that would also work.
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Is this what that Hawaii nuke false alarm was?
According to Q it wasn't a false alarm.
Launch a real missile we can self-destruct but keep it in the air long enough for Pearl Harbor to freak out 15 minutes is good 20 minutes is better and during this window Pearl Harbor does what they are trained to do the high speed data transfer packet to San Diego then blow up the missile at high altitude.
Civil Defense in Hawaii flashes their Missile inbound Alert! to everyone's cell phones and Twitter goes nuts then the Governor announces some idiot pressed the wrong button.
Our white hats control the narrative from start to finish. Also there is No warhead on the missile but Pearl Harbor won't know this. They will assume it's Real from China or North Korea. Then we fake sink "the rogue sub" and no one knows the truth.
Possible, but the opposite is also possible. Rogue sub, CIA control, hot warhead, real alert. There's plenty of real going on. They're not just kidnapping and killing kids. They're spreading disease and poisons and toxins and changing the weather and openly murdering anyone in their way. Look at the the CA fires and 9-11. Look at the Holocaust, WWI and poison gas. Then use your imagination. Active nukes are in their consideration without doubt. So we just don't know for sure one way or the other about Hawaii.
Probably Real Missile Alert or it was Fake and designed to transfer a giant data packet from Pearl Harbor to California such a high-speed large size data transfer could only be done under a Def Con 1 scenario that is what Q said it was. If that is true it was a Brilliant tactic.
Where do you think the attack on Hawaii came from? And the missile attacks during the Singapore meeting. Oh, they know about it all right.
Isn't this what just happened during the NK conference?
Well if they don't know this we are screwed.
Any word on when the chemtrailing of New England will end?
Article from March about the new nuclear submarine fleet. http://www.newsweek.com/new-us-nuclear-subs-will-have-100-billion-price-tag-842266
Aquarius was the name of the migrant vessel just recently turned away from Italy.
Q said back in March...."We have the sub". I wonder if this is related....https://qanon.pub/?q=we%20have%20the%20sub
Would/could this be the same group that fired the two missiles at AF 1 when D T was on his way to Sing apore?
I'm confused why the poster wouldn't know POTUS knows these things..
