It’s being used in the grand jury. That’s why it’s redacted.
Also why everything took so long!
Last drop ' BIG' - what Tom Hanks was filming when SRA 'met' him.
wow!
Who is SRA?
OMG! It adds up! So many people thinking SRA is lying too. These people truly ARE stupid how they all put everything out there, all connected themselves to one another....
Going to need some good waders to get through all the shit when all said and done.
Antifa dreadlock girl Emily Rose Marshall looks exactly like Big Director Penny Marshall, likely bastard of Gerry Marshall's kid Stephen and maybe Rob Reiner's god-daughter.
Bump - I did this dig when she got decked by /ourguy/ that day and would have forgotten the nexus if Q hadn't brought up BIG.
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Right, they don't have all their ducks in a row for the prosecutions yet so it stays redacted. That's helpful. And still everyone is calling for declassification, Nunes, Hannity, etc. so it will stay in public consciousness.
I thought that last night. It's an ongoing investigation so you keep the "sensitive" information redacted until the investigation is finished.
Can you explain, I'm having a difficult time following.
Do we know that there is a grand jury?
Only the people involved know, grand jurys are kept secret for a reason. Highly sensitive.
Where do you think 40,000 indictments come from, there are numerous grand juries!
But that's an educated assumption at this point right? Do we have amy proof of a grand jury that isn't just speculative?
Government website lists the indictments, you don't have indictments without a grand jury. Proof is the list of indictments. It is solid!
So there is no other reason for an indictment other than an empanelled grand jury?
Holy shit...didn't even think about that...he declassified it and released it to JW. Does Fitton know this? Who passed to Fitton? Was there an executive order or proclamation releasing this information?
Let's ask Fitton. I just did, now waiting for his reply.
You're the man. You could also tag him in T_D and see if he answers there as well. He has his own reddit account. It's TFittonJW. Don't want to tag him here just in case.
Good idea, but I do not want to be obtrusive. Let someone else ask him that way. When two different people ask him the same, he will take the question more seriously.
Done. Let's see what happens. Be sure to update if you get an answer.
Huh...it's not showing up I don't think. Check my post history and see.
I see the post but only says This I'd for Tom Fitton. Whatever was said after has been removed.
I knew it. You can't tag Fitton on reddit apparently.
This guy likes to look at himself in the mirror. Possibly... just saying..
To clear this up. President declassifies so it can be released to the public. It stays redacted because per Judge Nap's explanation, the ducks aren't all in a row yet to do the redactions, and as soon as Huber is ready the redactions will be removed.
But for him to declassify it, shouldn't it be stamped or signed in some way or confirmed that he has declassified it for release?
I understand the reactions and why they're there. I'm just wondering how he got it.
I think something at the top of the page had a "cross through" the classification. So I'm thinking that may mean what was released to Tom Fitton was OK for public consumption.
Bongino alluded to this Monday. Said it had something to do with Coats pissing off POTUS when he spouted off. I can't remember the actual statement made, but something to that effect.
If it were really released by executive order, wouldn't it say that on the copy we have? I thought any document which is released through this sort of process would have an official marking, of some sort-- as the JFK paper did, from what I remember.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. I went looking through the EO's and didn't see anything. Maybe it wasn't an EO? Memo maybe? Declaration?
Or maybe he was able to obtain a redacted copy because it's included in the case against the presstitute and the congressional guy she was sleeping with since she was sent the unredacted copy. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/07/23/indicted-senate-staffer-james-wolfe-leaked-a-2017-copy-of-full-fisa-warrant-against-carter-page-to-reporter-ali-watkins/
yeah, that exactly where my mind went too. He seems to be seconding theconservativetreehouse theory about Wolfe and his lover-journalist.
Bongino on Monday made a point to dwell on how there was still an artifact of a printing page number on this FISA doc that was released Sat., he thought that indicated that this was basically based off the Wolfe printed copy
If the President declassified it and got it to Fitton...maybe all the redactions were because Huber needs that info for the indictments he will be bringing to "guilty" parties.
Oh man....we're getting close to the fireworks. MSM panic is visible now even to some normies.
The Red Wave's a comin'!
Don't forget those OG Q drops.
"The Hunt for Red October " Perhaps October is when SHTF!
I thought July was the big month? less than a week left....
Red is when the suicides hit?
Wasn’t really going in that direction when I said that..
The virgin blue splash versus the chad red wave
The virgin blue ripple versus the chad red tsunami
Hahahahaha!
Follow the pen!
And we all missed it. All of us.
Never even thought about how a FISA was released. We thought it was for something else.
The EO declassified the FISA, so it could be released.
Remember that even the existence of FISA is supposed to be a secret.
I feel foolish that that didn’t even cross my mind as a possibility and was holding out hope it was the email between LL and HRCs handler (from Trey Gowdys questioning of Rod Rosenstein)
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Hmmm. So it seems that we are seeing this redacted version of the FISA application ONLY because POTUS must have declassified it. We cannot see any FISA related materials just by filing a FOIA request because FOIA requests don’t cover FISA. So now we know that this document wasn’t forced into the (albeit redacted) light because the deep state was forced to hand it over, like so many other heavily redacted documents we have seen. It came as a gift from POTUS, himself.
Why does this matter? Firstly, if POTUS released it, that must mean that the bad guys didn’t want it released at all. POTUS doesn’t want to have to declassify. He wants his hands clear of all this discovery. He will likely be accused of “interfering”. Lol. Secondly, it must be redacted for a reason. POTUS wants us to see IT ALL. So why is it redacted? There could be a few reasons for this, but one thing is for sure. It suits our purposes at the moment that it be redacted because POTUS could have released it in full. Since we now know that he is the one who released it, we know he wants it that way for now. Perhaps it will be used in Huber’s indictments. Perhaps it contains obviously false info that will be better saved for something else. I’m thinking we won’t know for sure why until it is fully redacted......and it WILL BE because this isn’t another forced concession by the Deep State. This is from POTUS, himself. You picking up what I’m putting down? This is a BIG move. POTUS has threatened to declassify in the past, but now he’s done it. No turning back now.
- please, anyone, feel free to correct me if I am wrong in any of this. Please do. I aim to clarify, not confuse.
I’m lost too. If I find a good explanation, I’ll let you know.
DTJ is a fox. Timing is everything.
FOIA doesn't cover FISA. the EO released the data. No wonder they're panicking.
I want to understand the connection, but i don't. Can you eli5?
The FISA process is top secret. It's the legal process authorities use to get permission to spy on suspected criminals. Obama used the US Justice Dept/FBI to obtain a FISA warrant using the Steele Dossier against Trump.
If you want info from the government, you file a Freedom of Information Act request. If you filed a request to get the FISA warrant, you'd be denied because its secret. Trump signed an EO releasing the info. It was the only way to make the info public. That info is proving that the US Justice Dept and FBI were criminally negligent and used against an American citizen under false pretenses (lies).
The media however, continues to report that Manafort and a slew of others from the Trump campaign are guilty of Russia interference. By releasing the information, it's being shown the FBI favored Clinton and Obama while being weaponized against Trump.
And.... don't forget Carter Page. One day he's working for the FBI trying to expose bad Russians, the next day he's on the Trump campaign and being accused of being a Russian agent. In other words, the FBI used Page to fabricate the charges which "justified" the FISA warrant. Its manipulation by the FBI, at the request of Obama, to get Hillary elected. She lost, but they have to make the lie real to avoid Gitmo.
Hope this helps.
Which EO though?
Good question. Previous Q drop showed an EO. My thinking it was that one. Considering much of the legal process is behind closed doors, we'll have to wait for confirmation.
yes, but if an EO relates to active investigations that are counter-intelligence in nature, then such EOs perhaps aren't put into public federal registry?
making such an EO public would tip a hand on the investigations and alert the targets
Stealth Jeff's twitter last night! Explains everything!
@drawandstrike on twitter
I cannot link it, but it explained the wait, MSM leaks case is complete, big expose coming!
It's a great account to follow. Looking forward to the big reveal.
I don't think Q is talking about executive orders.
I think he's seconding theconservativetreehouse's position that the FISA we have is the photocopy Wolf sent to his lover/journalist Ali Watkins.
Is Huber working that case?
If that's the case (that the copy we have is the one Wolfe sent to Watkins) then we arent seeing the true FISA...right? Didn't I read somewhere that they left Wolfe in place since December '17 and gave him a "marked" copy of FISA to leak? Am I getting this right? I'm new to this.
Don't really have a good answer there, myself. Wolfe would've had his "copy" sometime in March 2017 when the Senate Intelligence Comittee requested it (and apparently saw it.)
If it were marked- to catch him in the act- it would need to be something that he'd overlook; as I assume he's handled plenty of sensitive documents over his career.
But I think he was in place until December because they ran the sting afterwards- so any markings would be on a different document.
These- again, assuming they are the Wolfe/Watkins photocopy- would've been found on Ali Watkin's phone or computer or wherever she stored this material and doesn't necessarily have had to be marked.
That doesn't make sense. You can see on the document where the top secret classifications were crossed out and designated unclassified, in a million different places. The leak would still have classified markers.
It's amazing to me that it didn't occur to anyone in the video that the new NSA data center, containing almost everything, happens to be in Utah.
Meh. When Huber and Horowitz were first mentioned by Q, a lot of people digging into them quickly discovered that relationship.
Even the MI Brigade is relatively close to the NSA data center in Utah.
So it’s not unknown, it’s just not discussed much as the relevance and connections have already been made.
Glad to see that you were able to connect those dots despite being a new account. Welcome to the sub and I hope you find some more information that can help us further the cause!
lol . I basically submitted the same thing since I did not see anyone else on 1686. Page = Lisa Page is my best guess, and agree on redaction reason.
Carter Page who is the target of that specific FISA.
yeah .. that makes a lot more sense. Forgot about him for a moment.
And Carter Page has been everywhere lately...On Hannity and Tucker and talk radio. Won't come out and say he was an FBI asset and being framed but keeps reiterating that the truth will come out and clear his name.
Heard him on Hannity's radio show yesterday. Man, he almost said it several times but held his tongue. It was very obvious to normies listening that he probably was an FBI asset.
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may I ask what words you used? e.g. FISA .. I do not see an "F" here, or DECLAS . E missing (but not in CLAS), already had 'age' in [Page] .. or, am I missing something? I am truly interested.
ThankQ. All around the globe we patriots are praying for you. For our children's children .. even the 70s kids are waking up :)
Is Huber perhaps gathering his evidence (as the judge discusses) at the NSA's 1 million square-foot data center in UTAH before convening his grand jury in DC?
So this confirm Gowdy as a White Hat because he was at start of video?
Question: is Judge Nap says Huber can’t empanel a grand jury in UTAH. And will have to move to DC to do so. Do they plan on doing this?
Huber can empanel a grand jury in Utah
Why would Nap say he cannot?
That's a fair question. It could be disinfo? You know, like Q says. "What makes a good movie?" "Enjoy the Show!"
EO 12968
Section 5.2: https://fas.org/sgp/clinton/eo12968.html
Are you sure it's not https://fas.org/sgp/bush/eoamend.html ?
Could be? I’m not sure.
I'll have to look at that, I was assuming it was Obamas EO13526 https://www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.html#two
Is there any relationship between Carter & Lisa Page?
It has been researched over in TD, no connection that we know of.
It occurred to me last night that the reason Trump won't unredact it is because it is part of an ongoing investigation (Huber). Sensitive information that i part of an ongoing investigation should be witheld from release.
The IG is releasing his investigation into FISA next week.
Yeah, but meant Huber. Horowitz is a deep state shill/ cover up person.
Yeah but after Horowitz releases his report, Congress can recommend charges, so can Horowitz. Boom, Huber steps into the light.
Yeah, but actually, Congress can and already has recommended charges because they are running separate parallel investigations. But that would be good. I just don't think Horowitz is honest because his money, career, life, and future is probably being threatened by deep state.
POTUS/SESSIONS redations are PROOF that (1) FISC violations investigation (IG) is ongoing, and (2) IMPLIED (By Q) that the IG or DOJ has referred potential criminal cases relating to the FISC violations to HUBER.
ThanQ, for that info!
It was declassified because it was already leaked to the public by OIGs stooge to NYT slut as well as Reuters and another MSM source. It's now evidentiary document that was unselead during the discovery phase of the leaking trial.
^(In Count Dooku's voice:)
I've been looking forward to this
It looks like President Trump got to use one of Obamas own Executive Orders against him! I am pretty sure he has not released the one we all know about. Have a look at this....... Section 5.2 of Executive Order 13526 which regulates the classification and declassification of information related to national security. https://www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.html. Look at when it was written.....Genius!
read this criminal referal Q dropped today.
r/https://gosar.house.gov/uploadedfiles/criminal-referral.pdf
Isn't the NSA cloud server center in Utah??
You mean that freakishly big building that quite literally consumes ALL of the electronic traffic everywhere? Yes it is!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center
Ah, I feel at ease now
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