Anonymous ID: 3d6562 Baking Seminar #25 July 30, 2020, 1:10 a.m. No.21322   🗄️.is 🔗kun

LIVE Baking Seminar

 

7/30/2020

 

We in here

 

Welcome To LIVE Baking Classes in the Q Research Utility Kitchen

 

We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

 

We are the bakers who provide the breads for those anons who post Qresearch's open-sourced information, reasoned argument, and dank memes. We do battle in the sphere of baking ideas and baking ideas only. We neither need nor condone the use of force in our work here.

 

 

=VINCIT OMNIA VERITAS=

=SEMPER FIDELIS=

=WWG1WGA=

 

INTRO TO BAKING

Qresearch is a 24/7 beehive of activity where anons post their diggs, memes and prayers.

For this to happen requires ''bakers''–which is why they have been called "the core of this board."

Bakers perform several key functions:

* Set the tone for each bread via their choice of bread title and /comms/ with posters.

* Post notables for each bread.

* Bake breads (transition the board from one thread to the next).

* Knead the dough (keeping the resource pages clean, tidy, and up-to-date).

When all goes well, baking is a fun & exciting opportunity to serve. When things get wonky and shills attack–bakers carry on anyway.

Shadilay, fellow bakers!

 

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General Announcements

* Baking Class in /comms/ every Thursday @7pm ET: practice baking, Q&A, all are welcome

* Baking class plan (so any baker can teach) >>11969, https://pastebin.com/gqfunWCR

* How to bake a baking seminar dough >>14289

* Too many threads problem - bakers be(a)ware >>15895

* Qbin links qanonbin.com, www2qanonbin.com

* Dough Revision>20538

 

Past Class links & archives

>>6125 #1, >>6368 #2, >>6885 #3, >>7185 #4 , >>7568 #5, >>8274 #6, >>8872 #7, >>9320 #8, >>9787 #9, >>10510 #10, >>11086 #11, #12 >>11733, #13 >>13041, #14 >>13590, #15 >>14290, #16 >>14873, #17 >>15341, #18 >>15918, #19 >>16885, #20 >>17719, #21 >>18289, #22 >>18935, #23 >>19692, #24 >>20544

Archives: Classes #1 - #20: >>18934, #21 http://archive.vn/wip/NH1Ss, #22 http://archive.vn/olnuG, #23 http://archive.vn/enwhP

 

Step-by-Step Baking Instructions

>>17783 STEP 0 - Preparation

>>17797 STEP 1 - Find the Current Dough

>>17803 STEP 2 - Copy the Current Dough

>>17807 STEP 3 - Paste The Dough Into Text Editor ( >>17810 dough in Q-bin)

>>17815 STEP 3a - Trim The Notables Section

>>17822 STEP 3b - Make space for your New Notables

>>17831 STEP 4 - Create A New Thread

>>17837 STEP 5 - Enter Thread Info And Post Thread

>>17845 STEP 6 - Enter the Rest of the Dough

>>17863 STEP 7 - Make A New Pastebin & Make The Dough Post ( >>17868, >>17871, >>17875 Q-bin updates)

>>17876 STEP 8 - Post Your New Thread Link

 

Baking Overview & Extras

>>17777 Overview

>>17884 Linking between Boards

>>17894 Timing

>>14523 Baker's Tools Lite

>>16963 NEW: How to Bake When Q Posts >>16994, >>17015, >>17032, >>17037

 

E-BAKE Instructions

>>9252, >>10776

 

Baker Verification Mini-seminar, Class #23

>>19874 Why do bakers verify who they are handing off to?

>>19890 What are some ways that bakers have kept a work history and used it to verify their handoffs so far? What do these verification methods have in common?

>>19914 Example verification using pastebin

>>19934 Example of an incorrect/invalid verification using pastebin

>>19953, >>19990 Is this a valid verification by itself?

>>20026 Verification using qanonbin.com

>>20037 Human or "inexact" methods of verification

>>20047 Bun of verification discussion

>>20537 Summary

Anonymous ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 1:10 a.m. No.21323   🗄️.is 🔗kun

BAKING RESOURCES

 

Baker's grab bag

* Baker's Tools app (Version 0.7.2) Baker Tools v0.7.2: >>9584, >>9597, >>9601 https://pastebin.com/L1p6iRzZ

* Baker's Tools Lite (stripped down, good for baking) >>14523, https://pastebin.com/pUVCTeCG

* Try Atom as a text editor for Macs >>6925, >>6934, >>7055, >>7070

* Meme-making app kek.gg >>8771

* Crazy Bakes: wonky board, lags, baking from Index, "flood detected", dup breads >>9960

* How's your mouse for baking? >>10617

* Font used for baking school slides >>10642, https://www.dafontfree.net/find.php?q=impact

* Quik Pic bake instructions >>7549

* Original baking video >>7076 (shows how to make room for new notables)

* Overcoming paywalls >>10844

* Pastebin.com problems & alternatives >>11645, >>11609, >>11619, >>11620, >>11627, >>11640

* How to Control-F on androids & IOS devices >>13566, >>13567

* How to do a keyword search when /qresearch/ is down >>13696

* Past bread archive for /qresearch/: https://qanon.news/Archives

 

Dealing with notables

* Note-taking roles: baker, note collector, helper anon, posters >>14921

* Ten Baker Tips for Notables >>8177

* Bakers on what they look for in notables >>8351, >>8315, >>8698

* Muh Collector "how to" on notables >>9006, >>9009

* Anon tips for better notables >>>/qrb/41937, https://pastebin.com/yq7wQyvn

* Long notables; Asking anons to state main point >>13633, >>8237

* Asking anons to state the main point

* Advanced Google searching protocols https://pastebin.com/raw/JuK0xUDb

* NEW: 15 kinds of sauce (evidence) that make a notable noteworthy >>9655

 

Free image/video screenshots, download, production tools

* Image screenshots PrtSc/snipping tool + MS-Paint https://youtu.be/KvXxCE1gxOE

* 8kun video limits (~16mg) >>8760

* Bandicam Screen Recorder >>8759, >>8762 (also: OBS, Kdenlive, Audacity)

* YouTube & Twitter (downloads plus cutting scenes from YT) >>14306

* Video downloaders: >>14237, https://www.downloadhelper.net/ ; Firefox/Opera: - https://technologyto.com/extractor.html

* VLC Player >>8714, >>8715, >>8766

* Windows Movie Maker for Win 10 >>8712

* NVidia cards (can screen-capture vids) >>8785

* Forensically (forensics magnifier) https://29a.ch/photo-forensics/#forensic-magnifier

* ShotCut NLE (open source cross platform video editor) https://shotcut.org/

* MFFmpeg (decodes & plays any format) https://ffmpeg.org/

* Natron (cross-platform video compositor) https://natrongithub.github.io/

* Handbrake (good for transcoding) https://handbrake.fr/

* GIMP & GMIC (image editing) http://gmic.eu/gimp.shtml

* Invidio (copies YT vids, restricted or not, no ads or signup) >>8792

  • NEW: Avidemux.org, VideoSmaller.Com (apps for making large files smaller) >>18286

  • NEW: https://www.freeconvert.com/video-compressor/download (reduces file size w/good quality)

 

Baker tips IRL

>>8829 Baker's Tips - Read me first

>>6331 #01 - Ghosting a bred

>>6331 #02 - Baker changes

>>6378 #03 - TOR baking

>>6651 #04 - Defeating shills with facts & humor

>>7339 #05 - Announce you're baking (#11 too)

>>6892 #06 - Baking/note-taking protocols

>>7181 #07 - Use RED TEXT and BOLD in handoffs

>>7363 #08 - Try to notice when a cat is baking

>>13038 #09 - Respecting other bakers' notables

>>8174 #10 - Make sure to copypasta the whole page

>>8803 #11 - Announce you're taking responsibility

>>8822 #12 - Embed baker changes to provide more info

>>8824 #13 - Watch out for unknown bakers bearing gifts

>>8825 #14 - Use named pastebins to defeat shill complaints

>>8826 #15 - Responding to shills trying to suck up baker's time

>>8827 #16 - Be aware of muh joos bakers

>>8828 #17 - All bakers screw up

>>10445 #18 - Just do it--bake!

>>9590 #19 - Don't be afraid to bake

>>10789 #20 - Post notes early so changes can be made

>>10791 #21 - No /comms/ creates misunderstandings

>>10792 #22 - Defeat shills with humor

>>14835 #23 - Keep notables [from different bakers] separate

>>14836 #24 - Make sure to ask for Handoff Confirmed

>>14801 #25 - Don't fuck with the wrong baker [take a look - funny]

>>15894 #26 - Ignore end-of-bread antics

Anonymous ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 1:10 a.m. No.21324   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Baker stories & discussions

>>10114 How shills attack bakers - example

>>10787 Picking up a mid-bread bake - LIVE example

>>10710 Why do you bake? >>10729, >>10731, >>10732, >>10744

>>14837 Forensic baking (Mini-study: who's been messing with the dough??)

>>14114 Editing PB notables, ok or not? Baker discussion >>14227, >>14248, >>14265

>>14943 What notables draw your interest and why, baker? >>14947, >>14968, >>14975, >>14983

>>15908 HOW-TO notables (Class #16) w/baker comments >>15032

>>17219, >>17235, >>17241, >>17242, >>17245 Bakers on ghosting

>>17353, >>17362 How to update dough on a phone (<< first two posts, dialog continues….)

>>19732 NEW: Ten common "tells" that out new bakers

 

Baking FAQs

>>20547 Generally

>>20548 The Dough

>>20548 Practice Baking

>>20548 Pastebin.com [to be added: Qanonbin.com]

>>20549 Notables

>>20549 Timing Issues

>>20550 Handoffs & baker comms

>>20551 Making Reports, Global Reports

>>20551 Baking

>>20551 Baking Error Messages

>>20552 Common Mistakes

>>20552 Q Bakes, Other Fast Bakes

>>20552 Dealing with Shills

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 1:42 a.m. No.21327   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1352 >>1353 >>1360

dough:

https://www2.qanonbin.com/paste/lvVZ7TyxT

 

Welcome to Baking Class

whether you like to lurq, comment, or bake

this is a place for open discussion

about all things "baker-y."

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 3:53 p.m. No.21352   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21327

Greetings bakers, new bakers, note collectors, and lurqers

Gotta step out for about 10 minutes but come on in and have some water in the meantime.

 

Have a little presentation on comms

We'll see what Teach has in store as well.

o7

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:12 p.m. No.21357   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1365

>>21353

didn't get a chance to touch base this week

but thought about comms

bc we had a few little problems last night

so thought i could look at some of the issues that arise

 

one of the problems with comms is that it's sort of something people often take for granted

 

also, when learning to bake, there's so much other stuff

 

When i was practice baking, i remember thinking after a while, "ok, i can do all the steps now, but what about when anons start talkin' at me after @600?

 

Was absolutely PETRIFIED, couldn't imagine how i'd juggle finishing notes, baking and answer q's. All at the same time.

Anonymous ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:17 p.m. No.21359   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1362

>>21355

>not the right place to ask

You can ask here. Good to "get a second opinion." Good that Teach will check, i haven't been around much today. Are you a baker, would-be baker, or anon-hoping-we-won't-ask-you-to-bake?

;-}

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:21 p.m. No.21363   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1372 >>1390

>>21360

greetings friend, always good to see you.

you didn't happen to be doing notes til @300 about 15 hours ago, did ya?

there was a good note collector helping out baker. But might have been a baker helping out. Just know the notes looked good!

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:23 p.m. No.21364   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1366

>>21362

>anon-hoping-we-won't-ask-you-to-bake

ha-ha-ha….

welcome anyway, we are actually going to be talking about comms between bakers and anons today

would value your feedback if you can stick around for awhile

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:35 p.m. No.21379   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1385

>>21371

Yeah, i just saw. It's from the ghosting baker. I just posted a reply. Check it out if you like.

 

Sorry you had to experience that, anon. Not at all pleasant. I'm also sorry to tell you that the same baker called me a shill in red text a few months ago. Spammed it for a number of breads and in several other threads. The gentleman only recently began baking after claiming burnout caused the last episode in May. Might be time for another break, hmmm?

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:41 p.m. No.21384   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1397

>>21380

Your question is timely, because the issue of COMMS is important.

Bakers have to be especially carefull with comms. When i am completely anon, i can 'sound off' if i feel like it. But when baking, i have to be much more neutral. Because as baker, i am 'not myself.' I represent the board, in a sense. Should try to be something of an impartial arbiter, to the extent I can manage that. Getting really sharp with anons over a notable recommendation is a good thing to avoid.

 

Gets into the whole issue of "baker's temperament. Ya gotta be able to be pretty calm under most circumstances to bake. Or at least to bake over a period of time.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:46 p.m. No.21389   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1397

>>21375

Are u r ready for short Comms presentation?

Idea is to provide a jumping off place for thought and discussion. don't know if everyone will agree with everything said, but we can always discuss things.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:49 p.m. No.21391   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Last night, comms were kinda crazy. So made me think of some of the stuff i'm gonna post. Seems like common sense in some ways, but not always "common," espec with new bakers (or mebbe bakers w/contrary opinions!)

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:52 p.m. No.21393   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1396

>>21390

ah - 'til the baker-who-identifies-as-note-taker

aka "pixels"

(and by me in my mind as - sorry - "sparkles" until doc mentioned "pixels", more dignified)

We have had many interactions which you will remember, after nwb left. When i first attempted to note take, hoping you might turn up to bake.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:56 p.m. No.21398   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21396

Mine too…..

you weren't always around.

Which more or less compelled me to bake.

After seeing like 5 ebakes one night….

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:56 p.m. No.21400   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1402 >>1409 >>1882 >>1895

Role of good comms to create a smooth bake

These are the thoughts of ONE BAKER, but i suspect they reflect the experience of many.

They are not rules but rules of thumb.

But should be helpful for new bakers.

Others bakers, collectors and anons, plz chime in.

 

Generally:

 

1. Good comms matter. They prevent a lot of confusion (e.g., who is baking, when a handoff is needed, etc.). They also keep the board "happy" and things running smoothly.

 

2. Lack of attention to comms creates frustration for anons and also gives shills ammo against the kitchen.

 

3. Taking the time to cultivate good comms makes everything run more smoothly for bakers, note collectors, and anons.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:57 p.m. No.21402   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1882 >>1895

>>21400

New baker comms

 

''New bakers often find comms challenging.''

Why is this?

 

- Very new bakers are on cognitive overload the whole bred

it's hard enough just to bake wo/also having to report breads nos, greet other bakers or talk to anons

 

- Baking = new unfamiliar role

not like digging or meming (although it may at times require praying!) ;-}

 

- Ideally, bakers must exercise authority while also being as responsive as possible to others on the board.

can seem like an impossible task at first

 

- Easy for bakers to take a defensive stance, where he falls into the habit of mainly acting alone

Old-style 8chan bakers would sometimes act like "i'm in charge and you're not". But that creates problems that can easily be avoided. We are a team here - bakers, note collectors and anons. (BO/BVs too notwithstanding the less-than-perfect situation on /qr/, kek).

 

- Once a baker has a few bakes under his belt, it's time to notice that there is a lot of help available to him - from anons, note collectors and other bakers.

This is where good comms come in. Don't try to go it alone - try to open up, talk to anons, greet "visiting" bakers. Makes the bake a community experience - which is really what it is.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 4:59 p.m. No.21406   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1407 >>1880 >>1882 >>1895

Four main kinds of comms

- baker with BO/BVs

- baker with visiting bakers

- baker with note collectors

- baker with anons

 

Communicating Tips

It's easy when you're new and busy to just ignore comms with others on the board. When you're VERY new, everyone understands. But as soon as you've got a little experience, try to develop good /comms/ with other anons.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:01 p.m. No.21407   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21406

here I said "everyone understands."

But shills do not understand.

If a new baker is unlucky, they can move in right away and start pounding on ya, in an effort to take down the kitchen.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:04 p.m. No.21412   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21410

Never sure whether all new bakers know about this - seems like i've seen some just posting in the thread or posting on qr meta. This is something that doesn't really show up on any baking instructions i've seen.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:05 p.m. No.21413   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1416 >>1459 >>1882 >>1895

COMMS with OFF-DUTY BAKERS

 

Bakers: Off-duty bakers often check in to see how a new baker is doing - or simply to say hello or announce when they're available to bake.

 

- Always acknowledge baker greetings, whether they're asking about a handoff or simply checking it. It's what bakers do to let on-duty baker know they are around (either now or later).

 

- For handoffs, use established protocols. Avoid cutting corners; this is not the time for it.

 

- Let other bakers help with dough problems, etc. If you make a change you're not sure of (or decide to ask another baker to make a change in a later shift, you can also leave a post on Baker's Meta, so there's a record).

 

- Try not to get defensive if given feedback; when you're new, you need it - there's a lot to know.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:09 p.m. No.21416   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1418

>>21413

A few times recently, i've seen bakers check in with new bakers and get no reply. One told me he didn't know what to say. They don't always realize the purpose of bakers checkin in - that in addition to offering handoffs, can be about when baker is available or seeing if baker needs help with anything (dough stuff, collecting pb notes, etc).

 

At night, i often just like to let other bakers know i'm around. It can feel lonely at times, gives a boost.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:11 p.m. No.21418   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21416

A new baker doesn't have to say much in reply to a baker checkin in if he doesn't need anything - a simply o7 will do it. (Later, when new baker gets to know other bakers, the interactions will become easier and more fun.)

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:12 p.m. No.21419   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1425

>>21417

>example

yes, we can all be used as 'examples'

nice to think we'll get past that

don't know any baker who has though

although a new baker told me recently

that wnb was perfect

will be sure to pass that along…..

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:13 p.m. No.21422   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1426 >>1432 >>1438 >>1460 >>1882 >>1895

COMMS with ANONS

 

Anons: they provide ALL the info collected by bakers in notes and as such are indispensable to what we do. Without them, we would have no notes, memes or prayers. So acknowledging their contribution is a vital part of what bakers do.

 

Try to be relaxed not defensive (hard to do, i know, but try).

 

''When asking for sauce or saying something is already in notables, better to be "no big deal" than sarc.

 

''If anons ask "why not notable?," have an answer (no sauce, poor sauce, not sure of the main point, etc.) And if you are not sure yourself, think about it so it doesn't look like your decisions are arbitrary.

 

''Look for opps to thank them (when they come thru w/sauce, add extra sauce, correct baker's list, retrieve notables baker missed, and so forth).

 

Try to include nommed notables that are at least minimally acceptable, espec. if nommed more than once. As one baker is fond of saying, "it's the anons' bread, not the bakers".

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:17 p.m. No.21426   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1438 >>1439

>>21422

For me, COMMS with anons are the most important ones.

Because they really DO make everything happen on the board.

Bakers facilitate but don't bring the sauce.

Respect for anon makes such a huge difference.

If there were no anons, there would be no bread to bake.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:23 p.m. No.21432   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1470

>>21422

Another think I didn't include but will include now:

Try to create an 'atmosphere' where anons feel free to ask questions, make comments, and generally feel at home.

Anons know that bakers make the final decision on notables.

And much as we try to say it's no big deal, many anons hesitate to criticize bakers because bakers are essential for each bread.

Important that we try to project an attitude that invites commentary, not discourages it.

 

Tough for new bakers, they have many things on their minds. But to aim for it is a good goal.

 

Also, to realize that it's not necessary to try to act more experienced than you really are. Anons ALWAYS know the score on that. ALWAYS. Better to admit when yer wrong (or when you don't know something than try to fake it - coz it never works, even if nobody said nuthin.'

 

(Learned that from Teach - it's all over his old timey instructions that many of us learned from.)

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:24 p.m. No.21436   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1474 >>1481 >>1882 >>1895

In a nutshell, good comms are as important to baking as actual baking and collecting notes.

 

  • They keep the kitchen orderly & the info flowing

 

  • Ensure a comfy atmosphere

 

  • Discourage shills from division-fagging

 

  • Make WWG1WGA a practical reality

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:27 p.m. No.21442   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1444

>>21435

yeah, that's pretty funny. Was totally 'legit' just hiding! But always turns up @650 when there's a baker needed in the middle of the night, kek. If we had stats for "number of rescued bakes," dis baker would be real up there.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:29 p.m. No.21448   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1453

>>21438

Agree that many anons aren't aware of interactions among kitchen staff but are often affected by the results if things don't go well….

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:39 p.m. No.21464   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1476 >>1483

>>21439

>posted on twitter

ouch.

Ironically, u are usually really good about anon contributions. but it happens to all of us.

 

The hardest notes for me are discussions by anons, espec if untitled. Anons sometimes have excellent thoughts to share. But they are moar "40,000 foot view" than news items. As such, look unsauced. (Although often they do include sauce but go beyond it.)

 

It's been pointed out before that if "we are the news," we need to start thinking more about how to include anon work, espec when well-sauced and well-reasoned. There are a number of anons here who have done original research, have published articles and even books, etc.

 

The hard part is having the time to evaluate such contributions, espec during fast breads (in fact, would say it's impossible during fast breads - wait until dark on that stuff).

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:49 p.m. No.21477   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1478 >>1480

>>21445

>good comms

You actually have a lot of experience with… uh… unusual comms (or lack thereof) bc of inheriting the graveyard dough, sometimes from a ghost. Sometimes I will ghost a bread two hours b4 you arrive just hoping you'll get (say) a revised pastebin. Chances are usually slim! I show up later and usually have to repost….

 

This goes back to what other bakers were saying about anons not really tracking this kind of thing. When a bred is ghosted, all bets are off. Notables may be lost, pastes forgotten….anything is possible.

KEK.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 5:55 p.m. No.21484   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1534 >>1567

>>21460

>About adding previous digs to lead to a fresh perspective?

FRESH PERSPECTIVE is the key.

 

When an OLD dig is presented, would advocate its presentation in the context of a new dig.

 

So present some NEW info (or a NEW hypothesis or NEW thought or NEW development or POSSIBLE development like the imminent release of docs)

 

and then ADD links to OLD dig as additional sauce. That ties together the old with the new instead of giving the impression that something old is new.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 6:02 p.m. No.21494   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21485

>anons discuss, dig, nom

 

YES. That's a highly organic approach that leads to very good original research. Great late at night (and on /qrb/ last summer).

 

IMPORTANT: that anons present the info to bakers in a way that makes it easy to see the main point and (possibly) the progress over time. Citing the digs as they have progressed can really help here.

 

Helpful for example to put the NAME OF THE DIG at the top. Or THE MAIN POINT at the top.

 

Some anons realize this, some do not. But if i can't grasp the point, i can't notable. And it's not up to baker to rewrite a post for anons. (Sometimes a nommer can state the main point when OP has a hard time - summarization is not an easy task)

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 6:12 p.m. No.21510   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1520 >>1522

>>21479

>anon posts "acknowledged"

well, there's a hfew posts between "baking seeking handoff" and "acknowledged" aren't there?

 

b1: baker seeking handoff

b2: can bake

b1: request for bin (mebbe)

b2: posts bin

b1: handoff confirmed

b2: acknowledged

 

when bakers skip the middle part, it's confusing. Also looks like a possible shill move.

 

handoff protocols are important.

 

Tx for that - you really layed out the situation.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 6:20 p.m. No.21521   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21493

>that is newsfag

Yep. I usually take some and leave some.

Used to take 'em all as a newer baker but this anon posts much from foreign sources. And while such items can be relevant, it's a big planet. Got to balance relevancy with cognitive overload potential. (and nowadays, there's so much relevant news, it's important to be discerning).

 

That said, i just want to raise the issue of bakes where there is a lot of (imo) relevant material but baker doesn't pick up, even when nommed. When anons nom, i try to pick up even when i might not otherwise (as long as it's not shill stuff). Anon noms pretty much my first priority, then other stuff.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 6:23 p.m. No.21528   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21503

at the start, i think the 'community experience' part is hard to incorporate. too much happening, baker focuses on not making some dreadful mistake. later, becomes easier to be 'sociable.'

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 6:25 p.m. No.21532   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1541

>>21502

each to his own

be true to yourself, bake when it seems right

not before

Question:

how does lurqing here affect your experience on the board?

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 6:28 p.m. No.21536   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1571

>>21519

when i was very new baker - like less than 2 weeks - i had a pretty substantial list of notes. Didn't notice the ID. Suddenly, half of them go green.

 

This was right after BVs took over 8chan from 8bit. Seems that one of them decided that a poster was a shill and eliminated ALL their posts. Whoosh–half the notes gone at about 630.

 

(That was when i began to wonder about this new mgmt group….)

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 6:36 p.m. No.21545   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1562

>>21539

YES. The more receptive baker is to anon input, the more they tend to interact - and to reveal about their digs.

 

Anons also tend to package digs - and anon discussions - when they think baker will pick them up.

 

>>21533

You can show anons you are interested in their work by asking q's about it (assuming bake is slow enough). Or making comments if you have any. This invites them to participate. Kind of like a dance, kek.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 6:46 p.m. No.21565   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21557

No, it's not full, it's a revolving thread. So it always stays at 751 but you can still post. I archive baker's meta every so often so we've got records of past discussions. Prolly others do, too.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 6:49 p.m. No.21570   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1589 >>1603

>>21558

you can find past archives in the thread for this seminar bread. there's a few 'hidden' pages (not really hidden, i just don't post them).

 

Here's the current BAKER'S META archive info:

  • First META thread complete @750 http://archive.vn/2g1ia

last post = >>14153 5-17-20 22:29 PT

  • Second archive with 1/4 overlap: http://archive.vn/0pERN

https://8kun.top/comms/res/12561.html#16824

contains /comms/ posts #13563 - #16824

  • Third thread with ~30% overlap: http://archive.vn/6yQ06

/comms/ #16469 - #19487

http://archive.vn/C4sRQ (~5% overlap):

/comms/ #16768 - #20221

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 6:52 p.m. No.21574   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1584

>>21571

you shoulda seen anons scramble tho - they retrieved 2/3 of those posts before end of bred

definitely a 'community bake'

(was gy though - any other shift, bred would be….toast) ;)

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 6:55 p.m. No.21579   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1581 >>1583 >>1584 >>1588

hey teach -

can i be freebaker now?

got tired of gyb

was a 'fugitive' name to get away from BO & shills

mentioned i was switchin' to freebaker

which is why doc now calls me 'frebe'

suspect he pronounces it 'free-bee"

hahahaha…..

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 7:03 p.m. No.21598   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1608 >>1609

>>21589

just archive.today, nothing fancy. i'm meat-and-potatoes when it comes to archiving. if there's some app that does revolving threads, great. Otherwise, i'll just plug along, it works. Got all that great stuff about u, me and oss. oss was attacking anon who came to class as a result, check top of thread. don't know what to do if he's around when i'm baking, don't really want to meet up with him. sounds like he's going off the rails again, once was enough……

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 7:06 p.m. No.21602   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1606

>>21596

>hesistant on certain notables

i'm that way on highly inflammatory, gossipy stuff ala pizzagate, frazzledrip, rachel chandler & other nasty celebs, etc. If there's actual news, that's one thing - but endless pics that have prolly best posted before and rumors? Got a high threshhold on that stuff. This is not the Natl Inquirer.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 7:09 p.m. No.21605   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21600

>gotta git

yeah, we know - time for beauty sleep.

so u can be all cheerful-like in the am

Bble to handle gy refugees and weird breds, kek.

Have a good rest, here's a non-homoic hug just fer u.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 7:11 p.m. No.21610   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1614

>>21603

Never know where to put stuff like this, reference thread maybe. but it's in our dough for now.

 

dunno about FB (= facebook??)

hahaha….keep werkin on it mebbe

 

>>21601

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 7:12 p.m. No.21612   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21606

often think the really weird stuff is from shllls

just more crap to weigh thru

and them hoping some of it might slime its way into notables…..

i didn't used to know these stupid soc media celebs but they're getting awfully familiar now.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 7:17 p.m. No.21615   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21607

there is so much to baking.

just takes time to pick it all up.

one simple thing to do is ask anons for feedback sometime. just say you're new and and want to know how to support. stuff like that helps bridge the gap. (if ya get any shill replies, you know what to do….;-})

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 July 30, 2020, 7:19 p.m. No.21617   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1619 >>1622

>>21614

freeee is great.

When i switched, i signed a post to doc

f-reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

and shills got grumpy.

knew something shifted, but not what.

ah, those sweet little moments we have…..

like when talking about "lotsa's and they din know 'sup.

baking is fun.

o7

Anonymous ID: 3d6562 Aug. 1, 2020, 10:11 a.m. No.21758   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1766 >>1777 >>1779 >>1794 >>1795

EDUCATIONAL BAKING SITUATION

 

  1. Newish baker bakes bred with wrong number and a coupla of 'new baker' errors.

  2. Anons give feedback on errors.

  3. Bred's pretty fast so pretty soon it's well past 100.

  4. Prolly first time baker's screwed up the number, so he kinda wants to 'undo' the situation (espec bad bred number).

  5. Bakes a second bread w/correct bred number.

  6. By that time, first bred is past @150.

  7. Tries to get anons to jump breads but nope - first bread has too much momentum.

  8. Second baker tries to help - says that (a) even if he's told BO to delete first bred - which he did - BO won't delete a 751 bred, so no worries. (b) bakers can't force anons to switch to the "correct" bred, coz once a bred is really going, it's going.

  9. Baker keeps trying but no dice.

  10. Eventually baker relents and returns to first bread; asks second baker to take notes, maybe coz he's still doing dough corrections.

  11. Second baker post notes a coupla times but see no sign of baker and it's getting late.

  12. Baker posts he's having connection problems.

  13. Second baker asks for handoff to bake but baker keeps it.

  14. Relents soon after and gives handoff; second baker bakes it.

 

= = = = =

 

What new bakers need to know:

 

  • it's easy to misnumber breds - it's too bad but not that big a deal. It's always handled by informing BO/BVs with a Report, not by baking a new bred! ;-}

 

  • to bakers who want to 'start over' with a new bread:

DON'T DO IT lightly.

But if you do it, DO IT IMMEDIATELY, before bread 'takes off.' (would say within 25 posts)

 

  • When it's obvious that anons aren't following you to the new bread, GIVE IT UP, don't 'go down with the ship'. Apologize, report second bread for deletion, return to bake bread #1.

 

  • If after something like this - and if yer also having techie problems - say YES when another baker offers to bake. (can take time to reset.)

 

Here's the deal:

There is "basic" baking and "experienced" baking.

Only way to be "experienced" is thru having lotsa bakes under yer belt - which means lotsa mistakes.

THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE!!

;-}

 

New bakers aren't expected to know everything at once. Bakers work with one another and with anons as a team. Mistakes humble us but also make us better bakers.

Anonymous ID: 3d6562 Aug. 2, 2020, 7:44 p.m. No.21820   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1823

>>21794

>ebaker faggot

That would be me, anon. Not even worth telling the tale, what you doin' here trying to cause trouble? Post sauce or get out. Some baker called you a cunt? Wasn't me.

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 Aug. 4, 2020, 5:48 a.m. No.21859   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1863

>>21794

Same poster, different UID in >>21823 below? seems so.

 

First - just to be clear - the post you are tagging has nothing to do with your comment. Sounds more like a different 'baking drama':

 

Baker ghosted around 400, i took the bake shortly before end of bread (not time to gather later notes) - hence the title " Part Bake, Part Ebake Edition"

 

Anon came in an hour later (i'm guessing you) and posted this comment on notables post:

"this thing looks like shit, where is the last good dough, i will bake" >>>/qresearch/10157853

Me: "Can you be more specific plz?" >>>/qresearch/10157871

Anon: "no it looks like shit. I can bake and pull this thing together" >>>/qresearch/ 10157894

Anon: "If you are e-baker then I can take it or will see you at dough next bread. Being a baker you either have it or you don't. Sounds like you don't." >>>/qresearch/10157913

Me: "You can check the bin to see baker id. I will either ghost or handoff to baker who seems trustworthy next bread. Not sure that's you." >>>/qresearch/10157961

FINAL NOTABLES - see CAP.

Next bred, requested handoff, got response, asked baker for bin, which he provided - and i handed off.

 

>>21823

>don't appreciate your attitude

feeling is mutual anon

>you are newfag

define newfag

>bake not good

how?

 

PS - if you have general baking concerns, post em in bakers meta thread not here. This thread - and the class - is about practical advice for new bakers, not complaints about the kitch.

Anonymous ID: 3d6562 Aug. 5, 2020, 7:53 p.m. No.21878   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21863

Newfags didn't cause this, likely comes from a shill or oldfagger in a really bad mood. You go one post anon - here to learn how to bake?

Anonymous ID: 3d6562 Aug. 6, 2020, midnight No.21879   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>21483

In going over the /comms/ workshop from last class for the next bread, realized i did not include /comms/ with note-takers. Apologies, fren (was winging it, writing up til right before class, kek).

So i'm gonna at least attach that part' and include it in the dough on /comms/ workshop. Comms with note-takers important!

;-}

Anonymous ID: 3d6562 Aug. 6, 2020, 1:50 a.m. No.21880   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1882 >>1895

>>21406

 

COMMS with NOTE COLLECTORS.

 

- Note collectors most often volunteer to help when a bread is ghosted. Incoming baker can support them with thanks - also by mentioning their collecting role as note taker in the final bun.

 

note collector - thanks!

>>358475 planefag report

>>358557, >>358570 New DJTs

baker change

>>358599 POTUS wins re-election by 20 pts!

 

'' - Note collectors can also collect notables for busy bakers who can't collect or during Q bakes. Make sure you know when note collectors will drop notables (usually 2-3x per bread, last drop @600-650). Support their efforts with ty's, with good comms, and by answering any questions they may have.

 

Collectors know that any notables they select are basically suggestions until baker posts a notables list. With new note collectors, may be necessary to edit the list a little or a lot; with experienced note collectors, often best to take most or all unless there's something that really doesn't seem notable (imo).

freebaker !!wfVoXtXvss ID: 3d6562 Aug. 6, 2020, 1:57 a.m. No.21882   🗄️.is 🔗kun

COMMS TIPS FOR BAKERS

>>21400 Role of good comms to create a smooth bake

>>21402 New baker comms

>>21406 Four kind of comms: COMMS w/BO, BAKERS, NOTE COLLECTORS, ANONS

>>21410 BO/BV comms

>>21413 COMMS with OFF-DUTY BAKERS

>>21880 COMMS with NOTE COLLECTORS

>>21422 COMMS with ANONS

>>21436 In a nutshell, good comms are as important to baking as actual baking and collecting notes

Anonymous ID: 3d6562 Aug. 6, 2020, 2:40 p.m. No.21893   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Baker Verification Mini-seminar, Class #23

>>19874 Why do bakers verify who they are handing off to?

>>19890 What are some ways that bakers have kept a work history and used it to verify their handoffs so far? What do these verification methods have in common?

>>19914 Example verification using pastebin

>>19934 Example of an incorrect/invalid verification using pastebin

>>19953, >>19990 Is this a valid verification by itself?

>>20026 Verification using qanonbin.com

>>20037 Human or "inexact" methods of verification

>>20047 Bun of verification discussion

>>20537 Summary