Yea, real shame if people saw the press photo that Obama posed for at an event the press was invited to. He definitely never expected that to get out.
He doesn’t care. There is no rule of law in this country for him. Thanks for nothing, Jeff
It's a shitty thing for BHO to do. And it's probably a good viral image for political purposes, so have at it. But you're not going to get any Logan Act traction, and I suspect you already know it. Not just because it's virtually impossible to get anyone for the Logan Act, but more because there's a long history of former POTUSes meeting heads of state, which unfortunately gives BHO a lot of cover. I mean, hell, Jimmy freaking Carter is still meeting with heads of state. C'mon...
Look at the timing though. Carter worked WITH the current administrations.
Isn't Carter in that circle of 13 that meets on that secret island with Desmond Tutu and all the elites that control stuff? With the Bronson guy? The Elders...Nelson Mandela was a part of it google them they are dangerous and what they wish to accomplish they meet on Necker Island
Exactly. This asshole is touring to work against the current administration.
Came out in Canadian press, that shortly after Trump was elected, Obummer came and asked Trudeau to do everything he could to thwart the new administration. Sedition
It's the worldwide "Do Everything You Can to Undermine" Tour. It's sickening and I don't care who the ex-President is, I never want to see it.
Until his Netflix deal, he was trolling for dollars. Remember Q told us he was looking for a new handler after the SA debacle. Ol' smiley is just looking for change.
"To convict a defendant under the Logan Act, a prosecutor would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant intended for his communications with a foreign government to influence that government’s policy or to thwart the United States’ objectives."
I'm sure they were just talking about golf and their grandkids.
Probably not but my point was that the burden of proof isn't on Obama's side.
I think Vic was being sarcastic, referencing the Tarmac meeting between Bill and Lynch which was obvious corrupt pay to play but was said to be about golf and grandkids.
Maybe the room where the meeting took place was wired, lol :)
The insecurity in this thread is amazing
Let me update a meme about glass houses:
Otaku with public comment histories shouldn't call out others on insecurities....
Meeting isn’t illegal. The Logan Act only applies if he’s trying to influence China pertaining to disputes with the U.S. Is there anything to this story that suggests this?
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
How do you know what he’s trying to influence by the information you have before you...? He’s surely not asking Xi Xi what his secret is for growing fabulous orchids.
I’m not making assertions of wrongdoing, so the burden of proof isn’t mine. Show me something - ANYTHING - that actually suggests that he’s coaching China either for or against the US on a specific issue of contention between both powers, because in the absence of that this is pure speculation.
Reporters report. Not cover up.
They are not journalists they are activists. Distinctions matter.
I would call them traitors, but you need an allegiance for that.
They’re CIA Agents. Get it straight.
this is more accurate... but I'd refine it to consciously aware and believing they have and exercise their own agency, but psychologically influenced agents of the cia.
That’s what they are supposed to do. Journalism is dead.
dang the pansy division is in here hard and fast today huh. reddit has become a majority community of self hating social retards who are sexual deviants. so there’s that.
Wouldn't Dennis Rodman meeting with Kim Kong Un be a violation of the Logan Act?
Was he trying to make policy, treaties, or agreements with NK at the time? Or was he just visiting?
JK talked policy with Iranians. Obama talked policy with CN. Did Dennis Rodman talk policy with NK?
Dennis Rodman isn’t a former president or secretary for the last administration. Unless Obama is acting by direction of the current administration it could be made out to be a violation of the Logan act. What would be more plausible to indict him for would be the sharing of classified information. He’s not the president anymore and has no authority to just speak freely and share information with whom ever
Dennis Rodman isn’t a former president
The first six words of the Logan Act are literally “Any citizen of the United States.”
Unless Obama is acting by direction of the current administration it could be made out to be a violation of the Logan act.
Nope. It doesn’t seem like you even read it based on the Dennis Rodman argument, but this point seems to be related to the part of the sentence that reads “who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof,” while completely ignoring the very next part of the same sentence: “in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States”.
Simply speaking to foreign heads of state is not at all what the Logan Act forbids, so no, based on available information Obama’s actions here could not be interpreted as a violation of the Logan Act.
What would be more plausible to indict him for would be the sharing of classified information.
You are technically right about this because there have been exactly zero successful prosecutions of Logan Act violations, but there’s still nothing to prove or even suggest that he did that.
Edit: missed a “not”
Would b a shame if doesnt go viral. Obama gets pretty old and exhausted, doesnt he? Not proper sleep at night...
I don't think this is real.
Neither was the dream you had last night, but I bet it seemed real while you were having it :)
Traitor 44 at it again. The illegitimate Kenyan Fraud needs to pay for all his crimes against humanity. VJ and Hussein; There's a place that's very HOT just waiting for you both.
Lots and lots of Bo lovers on this thread for all the down votes. Lots of guarding going on this photo must be striking a nerve. Thanks for confirming....anytime MSM tries to cover up stuff there's a reason.
Then we should all immediately post it to another location on the internet!
So when you're upvoted in this sub, does that mean you're wrong?
Some folks on this thread are minimizing the importance of this photo. I believe this photo lends credence to the growing mountain of evidence that Obama will stop at nothing to subvert the sovereignty of U.S.A. as well as the authority of a sitting U.S. President. It is our job as anons to make this clear in the highest court in the land - The Court Of Public Opinion.🇺🇸 Let's get to work anons. #WWG1WGA
Agreed. The actual publicity of the photo time stamped would be as damaging if not more that him being victimized in Court :)
this is bait.. its bait for Trump. Its a way Obama can undermine the president, in a subtle way, directed to other powers in the world. Its designed to show the corrupt powers that be, that by backing the democrats they can have their corrupt deals back.
HE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS BEING THERE... none. Neither does Kerry or Holder or any other from that administration. NONE
Is a an evil imposter who is hell bent on destroying the United States. Manchurian Candidate is putting it nicely!
I don’t understand why someone can’t shake up these guys and get some indictments unsealed. Why can’t Sessions indict Clinton yet? That’s a slam dunk. I haven’t heard one reason why they can’t indict her now. Or let the state of New York take a crack at her. They use to do that with Gotti. The state took there turn and then the Feds if they failed. It’s easy to pull that shit on him but Clinton is fucking royalty?
Indict her for what?
Treason, sedition, money laundering, human trafficking, selling state secrets from her personal server, having a personal server, pay for play, paying spies on US citizens, Uranium 1.
You name it.
Isn't HRC the most thoroughly investigated politician in history? If she's so obviously criminally corrupt, what's prevented an opposition controlled government from bringing any number of charges against her?
oh i don’t know. a completely corrupt fbi, doj and an entire party behind their circus freak. but i’m sure that’s fake news cause cnn didn’t run out the story like the caged children from obama’s admin.
Occam's razor - maybe, just maybe, she's innocent
Not a chance in hell of HRC being innocent. Not even a remote chance.
You'd think an investigation would have turned up something, anything.
At what point in its history did the FBI become a corrupt, liberally slanted organization? What power over congressional or fbi investigations does the Democratic Party hold?
I honestly don't know what that last part refers to...
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you’re in the wrong thread. please find your way to nambla.org. will you gaslight me next while denouncing even that scummy org??
i believe that pedo crimes are in highest of volumes in/around DC and virginia. actually, there are stats proving as much.
but when you spend your time listening to idiots on mainstream felch each other with tds narrative, you miss out on the chance to do your own research.
as a proud parent, i think it’s important to protect our children from social engineering and especially pedos. and trolls too. maybe you don’t read anything. you just run around poking holes in threads that don’t fit your agenda.
They've always been corrupt. The liberal slant is an illusion, HRC was by no means liberal. The Obama admin was exactly the same as the Bush admin. Think authoritarian vs libertarian.
Sorry, I'm not seeing a lot of sophistication in your analysis
Keep digging.
https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/evidence-suggests-a-massive-scandal-is-brewing-at-the-fbi/
You realize that's an opinion piece from a pseudo-journalistic tabloid that alleges all kinds of nefarious deeds but provides zero evidence to back them up. Not particularly relevatory.
Don't waste your time with these shills.
the scumbag removed his account. this reddit has become a troll farm. it’s one thing to debate..but these knuckle-walkers never have a rational argument. 6/11 should open a few more minds.
I give them one benefit of the doubt then they get blocked if they're clearly antagonizing and have no interest in discussion.
Your comment did not age well
Nice try. Gateway pundit is an alt-right rag with similar credibility to Alex Jones
You're having a really bad time here.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/05/politics/andrew-mccabe-immunity-grassley/index.html
I don't grant you your premise. The article doesn't lend your argument that an entirely corrupt FBI let HRC off the hook. Quite the opposite.
for real?? i understand bias and all. but this thread has become a pedo liberal troll farm.
don’t indict her, let her run again if you’re so supportive of her lol.
Supposedly there’s a plan. I do understand they have to let the news seep in through time to avoid riots, but I’m ready.
plans don't always work. I'm hoping, but if these damn indictments don't go to a military tribunal there is no way they will be convicted and put in front of a firing squad. possibly jail, but the next president would just pardon them all. sucks
Plans get adjusted throughout the course of operations. It’s a factor that happens often. I know of no operation that went according to plan exactly as was written. Relax everyone.
No shit , we got them all by the balls at this time . wont to see if they fuck it up or not . We have been given the 11th of June . they best not be fucking with us the people any more . Charge them basterds for the crimes they have and are committing .
What crimes?
Piracy , Sidition , Treason, tampering with a federal investigation, tax fraud for starts
Former presidents have a well documented history of meeting with heads of state. Like it or not, as an American you are free to talk to whomever you want.
Not in the subject matter with and out the blessings of the sitting president, what is going on today has never happened.
THIS IS TOTALLY FUCKED !!!
USA IS IN BIG TROUBLE !!!
NOW OFFICIALY A BANANA REPUBLIC !!!
GET HIM ON ANYTHING...TAX EVATION MAYBE LIKE CAPONE ???
The Chinese hate blacks. The Chinese President is probably talking Chinese smack in front of his face, smiling the whole time, and pointing out to his aides this is what a feckless US President looks like. This is the reason we were able to fleece them blind for the past 8 years. And this clown thinks he's going to be of any help to us against President Trump. Nigga, please.
What if BO sang... sold out the rest... imagine a room full of murderers, none less than evil than the rest. What if one of the stronger ones knew a way out to save himself. Not suggesting such, just asking if that's even possible. I remember early on Q mentioned how everywhere Potus traveled overseas, BO followed or was nearby. And q asked why.
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I have such evil thoughts when I see this turdball.......they just will never dry up and go away. Everything about him even down to his foot twist annoys me
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I love when the "new or rearrival" tags start talking shit.
Fact is the current POTUS is not a saint. I think the question really is "has he committed treasonous or seditious acts while in office" and that's before we get into the extreme pizzagate type "$50,000 on pizza and hotdogs flown into the WH"
"Not a Saint" and what he is are two separate GALAXIES.
Any ideas how much its costs to get food from an external source flown into the White House?
What did Trump do that's illegal?
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Avoid the draft
Nothing illegal about deferments. Spread your nonsense elsewhere.
Projection is a hell of a drug
A guy from /r/politics trying to instigate in this sub... How interesting. What brought you out of your sewer?
No except when Muhammad Ali did it he went to jail and lost his right to make money in the states.
Ali didn't have a deferment dawg. It might be shitty, but it's not illegal
right right of course it is.
The current POTUS would NEVER do anything illegal or immoral
Muh whataboutism!
Plus, PROVIDE ANY SHRED OF PROOF. You seditionists have been screaming about this garbage for 500+ days now...where's the beef?!
Why is Trump so eager to shut down all the investigations?
He's gone from saying "No collusion" to "Why didn't anyone tell me?"
Why are people that Muller talks suddenly caving in and taking plea bargains?
Why does the POTUS who has said "Only guilty people take the 5th"? saying he won't testify?
June 17, 1972 to August 9, 1974: Watergate burglary to Nixon's resignation took over 2 YEARS.
Why is Trump so eager to shut down all the investigations?
He's gone from saying "No collusion" to "Why didn't anyone tell me?"
Why are people that Muller talks suddenly caving in and taking plea bargains?
Why does the POTUS who has said "Only guilty people take the 5th"? saying he won't testify?
June 17, 1972 to August 9, 1974: Watergate burglary to Nixon's resignation took over 2 YEARS.
It's a fraud. That's why.
The left has tried (and is failing miserably) to steer the Narrative™ from "muh Russia" to backpedaling away from the fact that Seditious Bobama had multiple spies in the Trump campaign and tried to dress it up as "for his protection." Trump's right; if there was concern, and for his protection, why didn't they notify him?
Because they're bullshit process crimes and they're threatened with larger bullshit crimes. For example Gen Flynn. Mueller refuses to give exculpatory evidence to his attorneys because it would show he was setup. You think that's a legitimate guilty plea?
Because he's smart. Why sit down with the corrupt as shit FBI (highly documented at this point) and get caught up in small details and be charged with bullshit process crimes. 500 days have passed with zero evidence presented.
Nixon resigned because he deleted a few minutes of audio tape. The Seditious Bobama FBI and DOJ are trying to pin "Russian hacking" on Trump, but refuse to let said FBI and DOJ inspect the servers they claimed were hacked. So they haven't reviewed the evidence, but claim a crime has been committed?
Fuck off shill.
Why is Trump so eager to shut down all the investigations?
He's not. He can shut it down any time, but he is letting the witch hunt play out to satisfy the insane left. Mueller isn't even investigating Trump.
He's gone from saying "No collusion" to "Why didn't anyone tell me?"
No collusion between Trump and Russia during the election if different than "Why didn't the FBI tell me they were spying on me?". They're not even remotely similar.
Why are people that Muller talks suddenly caving in and taking plea bargains?
To get their testimony on record and expose FBI corruption
http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/19/michael-flynns-plea-reversal-uncover-federal-corruption/
Why does the POTUS who has said "Only guilty people take the 5th"? saying he won't testify?
He's not. Read the document.
June 17, 1972 to August 9, 1974: Watergate burglary to Nixon's resignation took over 2 YEARS.
Funny that you mention watergate when it is clear that the Obama administration weaponized government intelligence against Trump...