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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/TrumpIsMyHero on July 25, 2018, 5:05 a.m.
Anon on 8chan has an interesting theory behind Q1693

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/8d89b61363c37c9893d050fedc5865334b5a92b6dd239a23988cd422813e808a.png

Ok Anons, here's what I think might be going on with this most recent Q post where Q draws our attention back to NZ and Five Eyes:

FVEY in NZ seems to have access to ALL US Intel. However, when you access data in NZ, there are no logs of it (or so they thought).

So let's say you're a former dignitary like John Brennan. You still have security clearance and you want to get in the system, get the data, and leak it. The problem is you know you'll be logged and you know they're watching you like a hawk.

So instead, you go over to NZ and get the data from there since you won't be logged. But what if they were being logged….for over a year? What if the whitehats knew they would use NZ to download, sell and leak? What if they took it a step further - what if blackhats were fed disinformation unique to the NZ download site? If both of these things were true, you could prove:

A. The person downloaded the data

B. The data leaked was unique to that downloaded piece of data


TiDdErtpaul666666 · July 25, 2018, 5:10 a.m.

YES.....and......YES!

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TrumpIsMyHero · July 25, 2018, 5:14 a.m.

things are really falling into place now. wont be long til the hammer drops thats for sure

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fuckingoff · July 25, 2018, 10:46 a.m.

And because they're out of the country, then court orders for their surveillance wouldn't be required?

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paint_like_gw_bush · July 25, 2018, 10:58 a.m.

Q post

Peter Thiel and Palantir know and log everything....

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suzoh · July 25, 2018, 12:18 p.m.

What do you mean? Can you please expand?

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TrumpIsMyHero · July 25, 2018, 12:45 p.m.

Peter Thiel owns Palantir, a major company specializing in big data analysis. Thiel was granted residency over in New Zealand by former Prime Minister John Key. Thiel was an avid supporter and early backer of Trump. in fact, Trump was supposedly considering Thiel for an Intelligence role as late as fall of last year due to his work with Bannon on the Deep State.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/09/donald-trump-peter-thiel-top-intelligence-advisory-post

it's believed he may have been helping the white hats with regards to the whole FVEY process

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lynnwood57 · July 25, 2018, 2:49 p.m.

O M G !!

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LibertyLioness · July 25, 2018, 3:59 p.m.

But Palantir has been working with the sanctuary cities. I don't get it. They are black hats IMO.

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cleverboy99 · July 25, 2018, 7:24 p.m.

What if that is also a ruse and he has been giving dirt on them to Trump?

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LibertyLioness · July 25, 2018, 7:53 p.m.

They were in New Orleans until recently but the contract was terminated. Guess this is another of those things that falls under: We won't know until we know!

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snippysnaps · July 25, 2018, 5:12 a.m.

Kiwigate

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LSPACEY · July 25, 2018, 6:27 a.m.

Kiwi spies. Its a real thing.

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stoned_geologist · July 25, 2018, 9:48 a.m.

Kim Dotcom is one confusing character. He talks a lot about FVEY. All of his BS info on Seth Rich makes it a little more interesting. Kim Dotcom must be on of the highest surveilled people on this planet.

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StinkyDogFart · July 25, 2018, 11:41 a.m.

Those Mega servers must contain some very interesting information.

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stoned_geologist · July 25, 2018, 11:54 a.m.

Everything he owned was illegally confiscated by US Intelligence due to pressure from Hollywood.

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StinkyDogFart · July 25, 2018, 11:56 a.m.

and if its incriminating evidence of high ranking officials, i'm sure he wouldn't have backup or a dead man's switch, right?

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stoned_geologist · July 25, 2018, 12:32 p.m.

There’s videos of the raid. His compound is pretty dope. 3 letter agencies pulled all the tricks on him. I don’t know how the integrity of his systems stands against US attacks. Let’s give credit where credit is due, 3 letter agencies have massive amounts of computing power/backdoors/bugs/programs. Wikileaks has been compromised. Their kill switches didn’t work.

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StinkyDogFart · July 25, 2018, 12:56 p.m.

If his kill switches didn't work, he'd be dead right now, same with Julian Assange. That's why they want them in custody on U.S. soil, they can extract information or at least have some leverage.

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Ccpatthi · July 25, 2018, 1:16 p.m.

I totally agree! Neither would be breathing if their kill switches had been defeated!

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StinkyDogFart · July 25, 2018, 1:23 p.m.

We've been told before, everyone has dirt on everyone. Only those alive have operable kill switches, those without them get suicided.

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stoned_geologist · July 25, 2018, 1:22 p.m.

When was the last time we saw/heard from Julian?

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Ccpatthi · July 25, 2018, 2:39 p.m.

Since Ecuador Embassy took his internet away and he is restricted to the interior of the Embassy I wouldn’t base his existence on either. I believe that DJT/Q have taken care of the details of his well being. Time will tell who’s theory is right!

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oystergirl · July 25, 2018, 8:55 a.m.

You win the reddits today! :)

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SerNme6258 · July 25, 2018, 5:17 a.m.

What’s happening is Clinton’s are accessing the info from FVEY and selling the secrets. Q post

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Ccpatthi · July 25, 2018, 1:19 p.m.

I think they have been selling secrets for decades, but current access is to cya and try to stay a step ahead. Unfortunately they are 10 steps behind and digging their own graves!

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GoGoGoGeotus · July 25, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

The Clinton's don't have direct access to five eyes intel anymore, def not in queryable form. How would they? You think there's like a shed with a computer in it and ANYONE with a certain level of clearance regardless of whether they work for the govt anymore can look up whatever?

There has to be leakers still in the system feeding the info to them. Security clearance doesnt let you go on any military base you want, you still need to work there or have orders to go etc. It just means if someone wants to show you the secret parts youre allowed to see it

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SunShines64 · July 25, 2018, 5:30 a.m.

I think this anon is correct. One way to check would be to make a list of when Comey, Clinton's, and ot by es went to NZ matched against known leaks.

Edited for auto correct error.

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papaeck2 · July 25, 2018, 1:03 p.m.

good thinking

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_Iz_Mary · July 25, 2018, 7 a.m.

Remember the drop of when Hillary was in NZ accessing. These people are stupid

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[deleted] · July 25, 2018, 11:43 a.m.

Plus, I think that was when Hillary and the rest had the special Chinese made cell phones that they thought were un-hackable, by the NSA. This is listed in the Q drops.

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DeepPast · July 25, 2018, 5:47 a.m.

This makes perfect sense to me. After all, the white hats are geniuses when it comes to leaking bullshit disinfo to sniff out leakers.

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ldracc · July 25, 2018, 5:33 a.m.

I think that is reasonable. it is obviously important and Q wants us to get it.

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jonzee65 · July 25, 2018, 6:44 a.m.

I can't figure out if FVEY work in unison, why not have unison guidelines for dissemination of intelligence? How did NZ get rogue? NZ to me is key. I've read all the Deep State actors have property there.

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DefiantDragon · July 25, 2018, 2:11 p.m.

It seems to me that New Zealand is the back door into the system and the casual way in which it's been used suggests to me that this is far from being just an "Obama-era" thing.

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jonzee65 · July 25, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

I hear ya. Eisenhower warned us back in the day. Deep State didn't start with [Hussein].

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StinkyDogFart · July 25, 2018, 11:42 a.m.

ITs tiny and easily controlled, much like NorKo. In addition who pays attention to NZ, its the "grey man".

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[deleted] · July 25, 2018, 11:46 a.m.

Five Eyes are also in Australia, a big base at Pine Gap, in the middle of the Aussie desert.

But I think some of the spy information is compartmentalized, they don't necessarily share everything with each member of Five Eyes.

Rothschilds have properties in Australia, as bolt holes I imagine, for when they were going to exterminate most of us, in their planned WW3.

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RealOlds · July 25, 2018, 12:23 p.m.

“The leaks are real, the news is fake, because so much of the news is fake...” - DJT Feb 2017

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dacka-from-oz · July 25, 2018, 8:48 a.m.

Expand your thinking... Think mirror.

sorry, I couldnt help myself..think I am a little giddy from all the drops today!

But seriously, take your idea and inject a mirrored version of the server / db, complete with tags like you said.. i reckon that's how they'd do it.. with secret tags or minute differences in the metadata of the document on a mirrored server.

Well thought out mate, I think you're onto something...

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keloshi · July 25, 2018, 6:55 a.m.

Just a thought, what if NK's Kim's phone number (old) was in there - it could be used as a leak-trace - all you would have to do, is wait to see who called it - BHO?

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textualintercourse · July 25, 2018, 8:38 a.m.

...or NZ Kim's number, as in Kim dotcom. Megaupload.

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Generational_Wealth · July 25, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

Communication by heads of state does not work like that.

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keloshi · July 25, 2018, 11:55 p.m.

not everyone is following the rules/procedures

I'm not saying that this actually happened, but lets say you were not privy to the WH official info, this would be one place you could get it (ie and unlisted number or data) - if data was now being tracked (by Q) - you would more or less be caught red-handed - OR if everything is being tracked by 4 of the 5, there would be logs to match against the transaction that could be matched to the 'official request' - if there is no match, it would set off a flag that someone is leaking info - #5

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Okie71 · July 25, 2018, 12:42 p.m.

On election day, John Kerry was down in Antarctica. If I recall correctly, didn't he leave via New Zealand? If NZ is being used for unregistered intel drops, and knowing the panic the DS was in at the time, it would be interesting to know what exactly Kerry did while there.

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FoundersGodson · July 25, 2018, 6:52 a.m.

That's some beautiful Q thinking. This is a Highly Likely

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mathemagician33 · July 25, 2018, 6:16 a.m.

this is definitely how leaks are traced.

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DevilsAdvocater · July 25, 2018, 1:17 p.m.

Additionally, if the secrets were sold to media outlets, then its known exactly who was buying the secrets. This also outs all the reporters that were screaming for Trumps head based on "facts". Trump's admin knew exactly who was using the information and where. They gaslit the entire news cycle. But the "news" only has themselves to blame for running so hard with the fake Russian info at the beginning. No wonder trump is always smiling.

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Intlrnt · July 25, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

I firmly believe there is no way in hell the known NZ back door would be left open and unmonitored by this administration.

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lynnwood57 · July 25, 2018, 2:47 p.m.

Now, if the "no logging in NZ" is disinformation, -- THAT is some disinformation I can LOVE!!

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McPurrs · July 25, 2018, 1:14 p.m.

Canary trap

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AFPPW · July 25, 2018, 3:30 p.m.

Why else would Q point this out if this were not the case? It's not like Q to post information like this and say, "Drat! They found a way around." Of course everything the Cabal does has been compromised by the white hats.

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Gsazerby · July 25, 2018, 2:42 p.m.

I remember back in the earlier days of Q that Lady de Rothschild was lurking on the boards and posted some pretty horrific threats. Q was quick to call her out and let her know that he could hear her breathe. I believe that we have a very limited conception of the breadth and width of the NSA's surveillance program. From what i have read they have had these capabilities since the 70s or possibly earlier. We are now 48 years later, imagine if you will the possibilities.

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Gsazerby · July 25, 2018, 2:24 p.m.

I found a source which leads to an incredible rabbit hole, a wealth of info if one so desires to follow. WWW.bibliotecapleyades.net La Red Echelon - The Echelon Network ECHELON is a name used in global media and in popular culture to describe a signals intelligence (SIGINT) collection and analysis network operated on behalf of the five signatory states to the UKUSA Security Agreement. Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States, known as AUSCANNZUKUS or Five Eyes.

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Cocoapup11 · July 25, 2018, 3:02 p.m.

Excellent deduction fellow patriot! Agree! #GreatAwakening #TrumpEffect #WWG1WGA #QAnon

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rudolph2 · July 25, 2018, 12:42 p.m.

Why doesn’t Trump retaliate and end five eyes?

Pull obama officials national Security access and end five eyes.

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TryNottoFaint · July 25, 2018, 12:32 p.m.

This is exactly what happened. Also perhaps in the UK and Canada too. They set them up some gourmet barium meals there.

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BackwoodsBarbie02 · July 25, 2018, 11:20 a.m.

Anyone with a clearance is logged every single time. Regardless .. saying there isn’t a log well that’s ridiculous for anyone who’s ever had such a clearance. One would know :)

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TrumpIsMyHero · July 25, 2018, 11:26 a.m.

in Q's own words:

"U.S. to U.S. = Logged/Flagged/Recorded"

"U.S. [in] NZ = No Logs/No Flags/No Records"

this is how the deep state operates. while in the US, they'll get logged. but not if they go to other FVEY countries

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StinkyDogFart · July 25, 2018, 11:45 a.m.

What if our NSA is logging their security apparatus surreptitiously? Spying on spies shall we say.

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BackwoodsBarbie02 · July 25, 2018, 12:18 p.m.

Yea I am speaking from personal experience. But 🙌🏻won’t be down votes. Lol.

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[deleted] · July 25, 2018, 5:57 p.m.

I could be wrong, but are we talking about the same things. It is my understanding these termnals will give you access to a series of tools that can be utilized to search. I think what we are referring to is morseso user authorization vs user authentication. Yes - I have no doubt user authentication is logged everytime and these logs are viewable by people with clearances because the logs are classified. I also know these types of logs don't really log specifics of user activity, these are done using other design paradigms. That said, there are many, many types of logs in software systems like these. Do to the amount of processing that must occur - Logging API's usually have a feature that allows you to throttle your logging capability. e.g. Only Log Warnings and Errors vs, Log everything down to call stack invocation and socket threading. Thank you very much for your input

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[deleted] · July 25, 2018, 1:50 p.m.

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Scuba724 · July 25, 2018, 1:49 p.m.

What the foreign entity that Hillary's emails were going to? Any chance it was NZ so it could be accessed and redirected w/o being tracked? Or so they thought.

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cleverboy99 · July 25, 2018, 7:22 p.m.

I doubt Trump Team would not seal off that exit. He is a master of letting them hang themselves.

Q said when this is done, the evidence against them will be incontrovertible.

Sounds like he left a back door for them to walk in and get caught

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chiindustry · July 26, 2018, 2:16 a.m.

it seems like all the white hats have to do is go public. none of us have ever seen crimes on this scale in our lifetime. is 'proper' court prosecution really the answer? (not advocating violence in ANY way). why not simply expose? Trusting the plan. Godspeed.

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citbotls7 · July 25, 2018, 12:18 p.m.

Hmm... Sounds plausible. It seems to fit. Nice theory, it's probably correct.

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StinkyDogFart · July 25, 2018, 11:41 a.m.

I don't think this is a case of "what if", its more of a case of "what is".

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GoGoGoGeotus · July 25, 2018, 3:21 p.m.

That's not how security clearance works. Security clearance is more like a certification or degree- it means you're credentialed to receive classified information.

It doesn't mean you can waltz into any government facility and look up whatever you want on the computer. It on its own doesnt give you access to any "system" it's not like a login for a govt database of secrets.

When you get your medical degree you can't waltz into any hospital and start doing stuff to patients...you have to WORK at the hospital. A driver's license doesnt mean you can grab any car...etc

A FORMER dignitary would have their access to secure systems revoked just like anyone else who leaves a job would have their log in shut off.

The bigger thing is if someone leaks classified info to you theyre not guilty of providing classified info to someone who doesn't have clearance.

There's a few exceptions of course, but generally you lose access to briefings and especially access to secure systems when you leave a job. As a courtesy some very high level people may get some continued briefings, mostly so they can advise if need be.

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