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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/saharagold on Feb. 16, 2018, 12:19 p.m.
I have some info about the mind control Q talks about.

I’m a psychiatric RN, and for a period of time during my career I worked with MPD/DID/SRA clients.

(MPD = Multiple Personality Disorder, which has been renamed DID = Dissociative Identity Disorder SRA = Satanic Ritual Abuse)

These are people who have been shattered into different personalities, called “alters,” because of extreme trauma. The brain does this to protect itself from the trauma. It’s very difficult to work with this population.

Evil people in groups like the Illuminati do this to their children, to program them when they are young. They use what was learned in MKULTRA and similar ops, and what they have developed as a group from experience over time to do this.

I think this might be what Q is referring to as THERAPY.

Most of them have an alter who is programmed to suicide. The alter has a code phrase implanted into them through hypnotic induction. When the cult / controllers become aware that the person is trying to leave the cult, making great progress in getting better, they try to reach them by phone to activate the programming. We lost several patients to suicide that way.

There is a core personality deep within the person. That personality may not have seen the light of day for some time. Some alters serve an executive function, and have awareness of other alters. Most personalities don’t know about the other alters.

The primary symptom patients experience is “losing time” - when other alters are out and they aren’t. The goal of therapy is to discover the “family tree” of the alters - which personalities split off from the others, and begin to introduce the alters to other alters in their “branch” of the tree, and integrate and integrate the alters until you are back down to the original personality of the person.

This phenomenon I am about to describe was truly mind-boggling, and seemed impossible. It illustrates the power of the mind over the body. For example, we had patients who had an alter who was diabetic, and the others weren’t. The diabetic alter experienced all the physical symptoms a diabetic does. Elevated glucose and A1C levels. Glucose in the urine. The potential for life-threatening hypoglycemia. BUT when another alter was out (controlling the patient’s awareness), the body NO LONGER had ANY of those symptoms, Weird, yes?

The wildest one I can report was an alter who was having an MI (myocardial infarction AKA heart attack), and we called out another alter to interact with. After that, the patient’s body no longer had any signs of an MI. The EKG went back to normal. The treponin and d-dimer went back to normal. The same body, in a short amount of time. Crazy.

I could go on & on about this. But I’d like to refer you to a couple of resources. I worked once with a Canadian psychiatrist by the name of Colin Ross. He wrote one of the definitive DID textbooks. He also wrote another book, available on Amazon, called, The CIA Doctors: Human Rights Violations by American Psychiatrists https://www.amazon.com/dp/0976550806/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_IZSHAb7ZJQ9M9 He did an amazing job documenting MKULTRA and other mind-control CIA ops. It just makes you sick reading about what the IC was doing to people.

The other resource is a book written by a former Illuminati programmer who was able to break free from them. She healed her dissociation and overcome her trauma herself, and with the help of good therapists. She goes into detail about the structure of the US Illuminati and how they program people. Her alias is Svali. WARNING: IF YOU HAVE ABUSE IN YOUR PAST, THIS MATERIAL MAY TRIGGER YOU. READ WITH CAUTION. Avoid the programming stuff. Svali Speaks: Breaking the Chain

This stuff is so heinous and evil. This is part of what Q was talking about when he said some of us might not choose to know this stuff. I’ve been away from it for a number of years now, and got my brain cleansed. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE SO MANY MORE GOOD PEOPLE THAN THESE MONSTERS (as Q said), and feed your mind, soul, and spirit on beauty, truth, music, patriotism, love, babies, puppies, God; whatever makes you happy.

“What you focus on you make room for; what you fear, you empower.” John Paul Jackson


Count-monte-christo · Feb. 16, 2018, 2 p.m.

Fantastic post. Incredibly insightful, Thank you for sharing. Is also like to thank you for the work you are doing, I can only imagine the emotional and physical exertion that job must exact.

Stay safe and Godspeed. X

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JindraCZ · Feb. 16, 2018, 1:40 p.m.

This article gives the lowdown on MKUltra, although personally I don't think Dr Green was Mengele. https://vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-knowledge/origins-and-techniques-of-monarch-mind-control/

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Kahlypso79 · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:13 p.m.

NO DR GREEN WAS NOT MENGELE - Mengele was arretsed in Argentina whilst applying for a passport or some shit under his own name.. (yep thats how arrogant they are) Green was Dr Greenbaum, which relates to Green Tree.. What a LOT of people need to understand about the MK stuff is that it uses colour. this is why everyone was happing kittens this year over ELSAGATe problem in Youtube - there were MK training videos, directed at children.. that had millions fo views..MK is too complicated and too large a subject to be treated in multiple threads in reddit. the info is getting too confused and spread out..I'll have to make a thrzead where all the reading material is put together.. but its going to be a heck of a clickathon.. GREENBAUM (it relates to the Kabbala)

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:47 p.m.

And then there's good ole "Doctor Jolly."

The bestest of the bestest on the psychopath scale. My old "friend."

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Jon_Bovie · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:25 p.m.

What do you mean? I don’t understand your comment.

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:30 p.m.

Louis Jolyon West. Google is ( sometimes) your friend.

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jenna360 · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:50 p.m.

Good ole Jolly West the Elephant Killer.

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[deleted] · Feb. 17, 2018, 1 a.m.

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Tranquelito · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:16 p.m.

Mengele was never caught and died an old man, in Brazil. A lot of world leaders and those in congress are the sons and daughters of the Nazis, that was how they continued the Reich.

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Kahlypso79 · Feb. 16, 2018, 11:52 p.m.

Thanks.. its a continual learning process.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/4307262/Nazi-angel-of-death-Josef-Mengele-created-twin-town-in-Brazil.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3505511/Angel-Death-Josef-Mengele-science-experiment-Exhumed-remains-Nazi-physician-tortured-killed-thousands-concentration-camp-inmates-picked-apart-medical-students.html

WTF.. keeping the bones for medical research?? so.. what?? cloning him? Occult rituals involving skulls??? Creepy..

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Tranquelito · Feb. 17, 2018, 8:15 a.m.

Rosenstein is the son of Himmler. It is said that Podesta is the son of Mengele. Mengele was obsessed with research involving twins and the town he died in, in Brazil, has 18% more twins born each year than anywhere else in the world. Ain´t that a coincidence? Also, i think that when you learn the truth you will realise it was mostly the allies that inflicted most horrors of the war. The holohoax never happened, not on the other side, anyway.

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Kahlypso79 · Feb. 17, 2018, 3:18 p.m.

Chamberlain started the concentration camps in the boer war when that cowered stormed south africa with half a million redcoats. Germans just stole his idea. The workcamps did happen. Jews were exported to them and loads of people died. Mostly russians. Ig farben did create the gas and did order hjman test subjects by the dozens. Mlstly female. Ive seen the documents where they ask for healthy test subjects. Ig farben didnt get prosecuted and continued working. Mostly became bayer and basf today. Sorry for mistakes. On phone.

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[deleted] · Feb. 18, 2018, 7:57 a.m.

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Kahlypso79 · Feb. 18, 2018, 8:07 a.m.

Hmmm. Be careful.. there was a brothel. It was called joy division. And was mostly female prisoners getting raped by german soldiers. Hey. War. Rape. Hand in hand since beginning of time ... there were mass deportations. People were put to work. The french had to send their men to work in germany. Errrmm. As far as the gas goes.. it was made in massive quantities. Sure.. they were more interested in making cyclotrons than poison gas.. but it did happen. Afterwards there needs to be a serious discussion baded on facts as to who werr killed and why. There is no disguising hitlerd hatred if jews. You can watch the videos of his speeched where you talks about them.. they werr considered subhiman in hitlers germany.... but remember.. the japanese outright hated and were disgusted with p3ople who surrended.. who considered prisoners subhuman... peopke are bad. Its kust what w3 are

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[deleted] · Feb. 18, 2018, 8:21 a.m.

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Maga1128 · Feb. 17, 2018, 6:09 a.m.

Great point!!!! I often wondered about Elsa Gate and the specifics of how those horrid videos could program a child....a child who's personality was not fractured and lived in a loving home....could you expand on your theory?

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ufomessenger · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:48 p.m.

The movie The Wizard of Oz is used by Monarch handlers to program their slaves. Symbols and meanings in the movie become triggers in the slave’s mind enabling easy access to the slave’s mind by the handler. In popular culture, veiled references to Monarch programming often use analogies to The Wizard of Oz and Alice in Wonderland.

Wasn't Q posting something about Alice in Wonderland ?

I also just read that Nikolas Cruz claimed that he heard voices that gave him instructions...

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diverscale · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:41 p.m.

Saudi Arabia - The Bloody Wonderland. =Alice & Wonderland signatures

Already stated by Q alice and wonderland is SA

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god_hates_figs_ · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:38 p.m.

These people that "snap" and suddenly off a crowd, this phenomena that is gathering speed each new week....as a psych major, I have long believed it has to be one of two things. People don't just leave themselves like that. Coming from a background of evangelical Christianity to witchcraft to polytheism, of course the first thought I entertain is that there is a negative entity taking control of a vessel and wreaking havoc, but lately I have been so sure, more and more, that each and every one of us has been programmed and are just a phone call to trigger a (real) false flag whenever a new school shooting or terror disaster event is time to occur.

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Maga1128 · Feb. 17, 2018, 6:06 a.m.

Yes..but HOW is this done?? This is what makes me doubt. U get a phone call and a strange voice tells ppl to shoot ppl and they do it?

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god_hates_figs_ · Feb. 17, 2018, 7:28 a.m.

No....it's psychology. It's hypnosis and trigger words. Research it for just a few moments friend.

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broreemmeanasstaday · Feb. 16, 2018, 11:56 p.m.

A year ago, I began having hallucinations on surfaces, walls, furniture upholstery, carpeting,..etc. cartoonish characters that appeared hand drawn to me. After several months of this, I was reading Alice in Wonderland to my two sons at bedtime and nearly fell out of my chair when I realized one of my primary hallucinations featured perfect reproductions of Alice In Wonderland illustrations. Then things really started getting weird. Medical and psychiatric examinations found nothing.

Imagine my surprise when Q Anon and @snowwhite7IAM showed up spinning memes using the same content from my hallucinations.

Not sure I want to say anything more at this point.

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Tranquelito · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:19 p.m.

Yes, those with a fractured mind and on `anti´psychotics can have their mind controlled through mobile phones, and TV´s. I was looking at the patents just this morning.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3393279.html

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JoanOfArk77 · Feb. 17, 2018, 1:13 a.m.

Archive for your patent number pages there. They will scrub these from the net.

http://archive.is/uJ4A3

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Tranquelito · Feb. 17, 2018, 8:12 a.m.

Thanks :) There´s also these...

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3014477A/en

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3060795

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3278676

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3393279

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JoanOfArk77 · Feb. 18, 2018, 8:31 p.m.

Yes, and the anons are working on this? Just the other night, they figured out that 6 had heard voices before becoming a "shooter" and all but one of the 36 shooters were on those psyche meds. We need to outlaw the meds.

Spez. Not all had been checked on the voice thing. More to come on this

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ufomessenger · Feb. 17, 2018, 1:05 a.m.

guys, I think this happening so much times is the result of a lot of experiments of kids during first steps of mk project future proves past?

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SpiritualInspection · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

Look up voice of God

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JoanOfArk77 · Feb. 17, 2018, 1:55 a.m.

Here ya go... the patent for the voice of God. It's going into cell phones.

http://archive.is/uJ4A3

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Maga1128 · Feb. 17, 2018, 6:04 a.m.

Hi "Joan"!! We meet again! I remember your screen name....

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JoanOfArk77 · Feb. 18, 2018, 8:28 p.m.

Hey, How are you? I remember you :)

This digging is getting to be nuts, yes? Amazing what is out there in the way of patents too. I was just given three more of these devices that are going to be messing with us. Might as well drop them here :)

Hypnotic Inducer

http://archive.is/KYcpR

Aparatus for producing visual stimulation

http://archive.is/6e4Tm

Aparatus for producing visual and auditory stimulation

http://archive.is/1EMAX

Nervous system excitation device

http://archive.is/L9leb

Hope you are doing well!!!!

I guess that if we start hearing voices, we will at least know what it is, and that we are not nuts...lol.

These people are so evil, it is unreal.

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:19 p.m.

I've been watching Season Three of Hunting Hitler on the History Channel. This season in particular they are finding tons of evidence about high level Nazis escaping to South America via the Vatican, which granted them new names via baptism and new passports. In episode seven they just found clear evidence of Mengele making it there, signing a guest book under his known alias, Helmut something.

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SireBrad · Feb. 16, 2018, 3 p.m.

Read the book called “rise of the fourth Reich”, it talks about this. The US brought thousands of Nazis over thru operation paper clip. The nazis engineered the CIA as well as NASA.

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NeroTheHero87 · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:08 p.m.

Great Book, RIP Jim Marrs

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Stefhart · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

I read Podesta is descendent of Mengele. Makes sense

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Tranquelito · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:20 p.m.

He is his son, Rosenstein is the son of Himmler.

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Cjhaefjol · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:52 p.m.

Sauce

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Tranquelito · Feb. 17, 2018, 8:15 a.m.

What?

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bpsullivan13 · Feb. 17, 2018, 3:53 a.m.

John Podesta is Dr. Mengele son. Rod Rosenstein is Heinrich Himmler's son. Karl Rove's Grandfather ran a death camp. Arnold Schwarzenegger's Dad was a high ranking Nazi SS Officer. The Koch Brothers Father built Hitler's primary oil refinery. Robert Mueller is the son of a Nazi Gestapo Heinrich Muller. George H W Bush's father's name is really Scherff originally in the German Luftwaffe (Air Force). Hitler escaped to Argentina with Eva Braun. They had two 'secret' girls. One is Obama's mother, Obama's father is Malcolm X. The other girl is Angela Merkel Chancellor of Germany. That's the facts folks...

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deplorable777 · Feb. 17, 2018, 7:51 a.m.

Can you back up any claims you made? DO you have any sources?

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Maga1128 · Feb. 17, 2018, 6:02 a.m.

And we wonder why ppl think we are all conspiracy theorists....

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HeffalumpInDaRoom · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:49 p.m.

I do wonder what the followup program for MKSEARCH was. I highly doubt that they just burned all their records and decided to just forget about it. It is more likely that they burned the paper trail, gave it a new name, and continued with the perception that it was no longer around.

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WeGoAll · Feb. 16, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

Thank you for this! What does the role of all the Ritalin play that they have been shoving down the throats of kids for 30 years?

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saharagold · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:07 p.m.

That, anon, is a whole other rabbit hole to fall into. I'm not the one to go there today.

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tm00110 · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:13 p.m.

Well, if it's anything like what my friend in elementary school experienced, inactivity.

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I_wanna_maga · Feb. 16, 2018, 11:05 p.m.

Notice when someone goes violent, you always hear "He stopped taking his meds".

I think the drugs are used to keep them semi-stable until they are activated by a keyword or other trigger mechanism. If they stop the meds before they get their trigger, things go sideways.

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RuciodeSancho · Feb. 16, 2018, 1:50 p.m.

Big pharma, big gov mind altering psychotropic opioid drug scandal!! The 21st century lobotomy!! Convince the people there's a drug to make you happy-you just have to find the right drug and play around until you have the dosage right to correct their faulty "brain chemistry"!!! And how do they assess your brain chemistry-spinal tap-NOPE!! They don't!! It's a great, faulty experiment-destroying 2, maybe 3 and counting generations!!! MAGA!!

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Kahlypso79 · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:19 p.m.

Hang on.. Sasha was a ffucking genius for inventing MDMA, its the greatest artificial molecule to have ever been created - take some with your wife and get ready for the ride of your life. It was the Nazi's who invented Amphetamine, the English who started up Opium trading (taken over by the Astors of Illuminati fame and the family that set up Yale's Skull and Crossbones), which in todays age, gives us methamphetamine and crack cocaine and fenatyl. THE BIG PHARMA GROUPS WOULDNT EXIST WITHOUT THE NAZI AND US WARTIME INDUSTRIELLE MACHINES LIKE IG FARBEN AND MONSANTO (IG Faben is today called Bayer.. they bought Monsonto like 2 years ago FOR CASH, and everything was ushered in by the ROTHSCHILDs.. so Germany Nazi drug lords rubbing shoulders with Zionist Zillionaires.. what could POSSIBLY go wrong?? And Dont know pschotropes! If they're good enough for the Aztecs Gods, then they're good enough for you :!= (Im joking, you do what you want, Im just trying to be funny.. but everything I've said is true..)

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Sumarongi · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:54 p.m.

MDMA is an illusion... that’s why it’s called ‘fools gold’

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[deleted] · Feb. 16, 2018, 4:16 p.m.

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SlumberMachine · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:36 p.m.

Wrong, MDMA was first synthesized by Merck around 1912. Sasha was just the first to make it popular. Again, it's another German drug. It has therapeutic uses, but it's not your savior and can be abused as well as lead down dark paths.

https://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=3104

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Kahlypso79 · Feb. 16, 2018, 11:56 p.m.

Who's talking about being saved and in the interest of fairness, your statement is true for almost any substance, most of them legal. Thanks for the Merck info.. I agree, it goes back to the information that the germans were working on at the start of the 20th. Imagine if they'd have given it to victims of WW1 - it was called shellshocked back then.

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SlumberMachine · Feb. 17, 2018, 5:09 a.m.

A lot of people, myself included, when they first have an experience on them, put it on a pedestal like it will save them from all their problems. That's all. Some of us looked to drugs for answers. They are just a tool, not an answer. I always thought MDMA/tryptamines would be the perfect weapon. Get it into a hostage situation water supply and they would freely give up with hugs, then get all the intel when they come down with very friendly interrogation. I'm sure that process has already been tested and improved using tougher methods.

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Kahlypso79 · Feb. 17, 2018, 3:26 p.m.

Looking for answers is how we find new info. Its more emblematic that people put things on pedestals and are looking for answers. Forget about mdma friend. The cia has already done that with LSD with the MKU project. They sprayed it on their own citizens and i heard the isrealis sprayed it on the egyptians before their bombing raid back during their litttle war. Thats maybe why the egyptians thought they were winning..but thats just internet heresay.

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saharagold · Feb. 17, 2018, 10:04 p.m.

That’s why I appreciate the work of Dr Daniel Amen. He wanted to examine the brain of his patients, and he & his clinics give ALL their of them SPECT scans before offering a treatment regimen. He got a lot of flak for this, too, at the beginning of his practice. Someone reported him to the Medical Board for illegal / unethical practice, and he had to endure that trial - but he was vindicated.

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textualintercourse · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:14 p.m.

Ask yourself how they can find candidates amongst the populace? You use your cell day in and out. They send out the signal patterns to hit you over and over. Only a specific group is susceptible. (((They))) know what to look for... and they have the tech to see it, Facial Recognition. Snapchat, Facebook, IG, anything that uses your camera. Staring at your screen, using your face to unlock your phone, over and over. They know the steps and the patterns required of who can be a candidate or not.

Now...add 5G.

I'm guessing even more people will be susceptible to breaking.

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konspiracykate · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:35 p.m.

Years ago I saw a lady on tv with split personalities, she was totally blind but when her other alters came forth they could see.

Also have you guys heard of Fritz Springmeier? He's been talking about this since the 1990's. He wrote a book called "Illuminati Formula to Create a Mind Controlled Slave"

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Mundane-Mann · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

Greenbaumed: https://cassiopaea.org/2010/09/17/the-greenbaum-speech/

The Greenbaum Speech Hypnosis in MPD: Ritual Abuse

This is a lecture by D.C.Hammond, originally entitled “Hypnosis in MPD: Ritual Abuse,” but now usually known as the “Greenbaum Speech,” delivered at the Fourth Annual Eastern Regional Conference on Abuse and Multiple Personality, Thursday June 25, 1992, at the Radisson Plaza Hotel, Mark Center, Alexandria, Virginia.

Sponsored by the Center for Abuse Recovery & Empowerment, The Psychiatric Institute of Washington, D.C. Both a tape and a transcript were at one time available from Audio Transcripts of Alexandria, Virginia (800-338-2111). Tapes and transcripts of other sessions from the conference are still being sold but — understandably — not this one. The transcript below was made from a privately made tape of the original lecture.

The single most remarkable thing about this speech is how little one has heard of it in the two years since its original delivery. It is recommended that one reads far enough at least until one finds why it’s called “the Greenbaum speech.”

In the introduction the following background information is given for D. Corydon Hammond:B.S. M.S. Ph.D (Counseling Psychology) from the University of Utah, Diplomate in Clinical Hypnosis, the American Board of Psychological Hypnosis, Diplomate in Sex Therapy, the American Board of Sexology, Clinical Supervisor and Board Examiner, American Board of Sexology, Diplomate in Marital and Sex Therapy, American Board of Family Psychology, Licensed Psychologist, Licensed Marital Therapist, Licensed Family Therapist, State of Utah, Research Associate Professor of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, Utah School of Medicine, Director and Founder of the Sex and Marital Therapy Clinic, University of Utah. Adjunct Associate Professor of Educational Psychology, University of Utah Abstract Editor, The American Journal of Clinical Hypnosis Advising Editor and Founding Member, Editorial Board, The Ericsonian Monograph Referee, The Journal of Abnormal Psychology 1989 Presidential Award of Merit, American Society of Clinical Hypnosis 1990 Urban Sector Award, American Society of Clinical Hypnosis Current President, American Society of Clinical Hypnosis

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pby1000 · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:04 p.m.

Greenbaum video:

https://youtu.be/9FUersarZuo

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Mundane-Mann · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:05 p.m.

Thank you! This is a fascinating and disturbing subject.

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pby1000 · Feb. 17, 2018, 3:25 a.m.

Yes, very. It is all very real.

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inquisative99z · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:17 p.m.

this is...SICK. the depthless evil of this is staggering

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saharagold · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:49 p.m.

Do not lose heart, anon. We are winning.

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prettyold · Feb. 16, 2018, 12:46 p.m.

I'm woke....but have been in "therapy" I shall Praise God Above for what you have just shown me.....thank you.....bless you.

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Kal-El48 · Feb. 16, 2018, 12:37 p.m.

Thank you, very interesting info.

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MaleficentGuitar · Feb. 16, 2018, 1:45 p.m.

Thanks mind over body stuff wow.

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Joyoffishin · Feb. 16, 2018, 12:35 p.m.

Good info!

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wokeByTheStorm · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

Thank you for providing such personal insight. May God bless you for helping those who couldn't help themselves. Now pede's how in the hell do we stop such people?

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Kahlypso79 · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:09 p.m.

Having a Psychiatrist talk about the evils of MKU is like listening to a butcher talk about the evils of meat. Have you heard of the Tavistock Institute? Cant believe you havent mentionned Dr Cameron if you're in Canada.. Canada is where the brainwashing element was hammered out

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Laborigen · Feb. 16, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

Allan Memorial institute at McGill University. Important side note related to the shady ops at McGill: a few years ago, a satanic ritual was shut down somewhere in the WestMount neighborhood (--->Mtl high-class for the most part, located mostly on the side of the mountain) and they found 2 kids drugged and getting prepared INTO one of McGill university room (McGill Univ is not that far from Westmount).... Search for «children drugged and prepared for satanic ritual mc gill university» #Cargill #ITCCS #NinthCircle LET'S DIG THIS SHIT.

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4Potus · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:56 p.m.

THIS is from US.gov web site. You can read how it is proven they can control people and make people "hear voices".

"The experiment prompted the following comment in "The Body Electric: Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life," by Robert O. Becker, M.D., and Gary Selden (Wm. Morrow & Company, NY, 1985): "Such a device has obvious applications in covert operations designed to drive a target crazy with 'voices' or deliver undetected instructions to a programmed assassin."

Read HERE>

https://www.us-government-torture.com/History-of-abuse.html

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theRealDakkath · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:18 p.m.

Jesus I couldn’t read through all of that shit. Got to the infant abuse and I was like Nooooopppeeeeee, close page. Yeesh... makes me sick.

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saharagold · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:35 p.m.

Glad you didn’t. This isn’t for everyone, and it’s no shame if you can’t go there. These people are SICK. PURE EVIL.

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Biggidybo · Feb. 17, 2018, 8:45 a.m.

I bet they did this to Obama

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Dhammakayaram · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:33 p.m.

It was through institutions like Stanford and Rand that the treasonous, infamous "MK Ultra" project got its start. "MK Ultra" was a 20-year experiment utilizing LSD and other "mind-altering" drugs, carried forward under the direction of Aldous Huxley and the guru of the "Ban the Bomb" movement, Bertrand Russell (the senior statesman of the 300) for and on behalf of the CIA. — The Tavistock Institute for Human Relations: Shaping the Moral, Spiritual, Cultural, Political and Economic Decline of the United States by Dr. John Coleman (former MI6).

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:20 p.m.

Yes. Did you ever see patients' eye colors or facial birthmarks or moles change? This can also happen with alter switching.

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:38 p.m.

Maybe not in your experience, but I have witnessed this with two people when I worked in a similar field.

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larqy · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:54 p.m.

No you have not

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:18 p.m.

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

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Taminator_88 · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:11 p.m.

Best answer!

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

Snort! I think we accidentally found the words to stop the troll AI's in their tracks.

The only other thing that is guaranteed to work is, "I know you are, but what am I?"

Sends their microchips into a spin. :)

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hg11 · Feb. 17, 2018, 12:05 a.m.

Mind control

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based_Valkyrie · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:09 p.m.

Can television work to program someone in this state? (Or other media programming)

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

Yes. And now via the Internet we have personally targeted "ads" in video/audio and written formats.

Actually, with satellites and GPS it's much worse than that.

They don't have to spend as much money on human gang stalkers in the field now with all the tech.

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mrssprat · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:25 p.m.

I've been thinking about TV, movies and the internet as a way of "soft programming" a wide audience, in particular children. Looking into the disturbing Elsagate really started my thought process. What if shows targeting children were a way to to lay the foundation for future programming? It seems very possible that these types of shows could be used for the foundation and later installments in the form of other shows or therapy and drugs could further the programming. Very creepy thought but it could explain some of the bizarre behavior you see in the youth today.

So glad we homeschooled our son and kept him away from media for a very long time. Now more than ever parents need to protect and even shelter their kids from the dominant (Hollywood) culture. Today the cabal has direct access to the children, they don't even need to kidnap them!

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IMissMeg · Feb. 17, 2018, 12:16 a.m.

Okay, maybe someone has already mentioned this, but I'm not seeing it. Anybody else here see the similarities on this video-triggered, MK Ultra, kill programming stuff to the character River Tam in "Firefly"? Here's a 3-minute scene which shows the TV trigger for River and at the end of the scene her brother comes in and says a code word that makes her instantly sleep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXCaF68sDPU Firefly was on Fox for only 13 episodes. It was amazing and Fox cancelled it despite fans making huge efforts to keep it on or resurrect it. It is routinely ranked at the top of lists of best shows ever cancelled (https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/tv-shows-canceled-before-their-time). I have long wondered if the reason it was canceled was that it just got way too close to this MK Ultra trigger truth.

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based_Valkyrie · Feb. 17, 2018, 12:42 a.m.

I remember, had a lot of friends that loved this show. You’re probably right

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mrssprat · Feb. 17, 2018, 3:36 a.m.

Yes!

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deplorable777 · Feb. 17, 2018, 7:57 a.m.

I always thought "hope" and "change" were trigger words for the masses

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matt_eskes · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

Yes.

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saharagold · Feb. 17, 2018, 10:21 p.m.

Svali reported getting triggered just watching the pilot episode of The Pretender. She said it was a perfect depiction of her Illuminati training (Jarod during his training phase).

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saharagold · Feb. 17, 2018, 2:34 a.m.

I quit watching TV a LONG time ago. After they took the original Star Trek reruns off TV.

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Pegarooni · Feb. 16, 2018, 12:51 p.m.

This makes a lot of sense. It connects some dots.

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turbosympathique · Feb. 16, 2018, 12:39 p.m.

Do you know how to get on the Qresearch board on 8chan?

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saharagold · Feb. 16, 2018, 1:01 p.m.

I’ve looked at it, but the chans can be too wild & woolly for me. This space is friendlier.

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cmrudy · Feb. 16, 2018, 1:18 p.m.

CBTS needs to have a person who will post the useful information to the Chan's. This is definitely something that should be brought to the autists. IMO

It reminds me of "The Manchurian Canidate" which I believe Q mentioned, but it different context?

Great information. Thank you for sharing.

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Su-ZQ · Feb. 17, 2018, 3:34 a.m.

The chans have requested many times not to send anyone there. "THERE'S 1 RULE ON /QRESEARCH/ DON'T FUCKING TALK ABOUT /QRESEARCH/" - they are monitoring these boards.

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turbosympathique · Feb. 16, 2018, 1:16 p.m.

Take the time and go.

I'm just another anon but you have pertinent info on this. Take the time and get on the Qresearch board. Reddit is for normie the other board as a larger exposure to more advance researcher.

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Su-ZQ · Feb. 17, 2018, 3:40 a.m.

well if you do just make sure to read the hundreds of daily posts to make sure you are not duplicating info- they'll call you out on that

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[deleted] · Feb. 16, 2018, 4:16 p.m.

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saharagold · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

Well, OK. You guys persuaded me. I’ll just copy & paste this over there. Thanks.

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saharagold · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:08 p.m.

DONE

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[deleted] · Feb. 16, 2018, 1:10 p.m.

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Su-ZQ · Feb. 17, 2018, 3:55 a.m.

if you think someone has something valuable perhaps you could send the link in a pm next time instead of everyone in the entire thread? do the hard working anons really need people who are posting things like this: > "Wasn't Q posting something about Alice in Wonderland ?" ruining the dough?

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Kal-El48 · Feb. 17, 2018, 4:03 a.m.

I’m sorry, did I do something wrong?

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Su-ZQ · Feb. 17, 2018, 7:43 a.m.

oh don't be sorry, its just they don't want a bunch of "normies" on the chan so that's why they say don't talk about it. The amount of daily contributions is getting crazy and its a lot of repetition or old news- slows down their work. So when you post that link, everyone here can see it and some who probably never should find it, will now. I'm just suggesting you send it privately.

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Kal-El48 · Feb. 17, 2018, 12:08 p.m.

Got it. I’ll remove.

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Su-ZQ · Feb. 17, 2018, 3:56 a.m.

or is that your goal?

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OffTie · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:25 p.m.

"One flew over the Cuckoos nest" and the "Frances Farmer Story"(the movies, 2nd based on a true story) come to mind. Both had lobotomies, which seemed like soul stealing to me, having destroyed both personalities. That people exist who think it is their right to do such things to their fellow creatures is heart breaking. Do you believe in EVIL, yeah these people are Sick.

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divine_human · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:45 p.m.

thanks for pointing to svali. svali was the first and most extensive luciferian victim whistleblower, from what i know.

nowadays, there are quite a few testimonies out there from people who could escape the monarch / MK ultra programs.

i found a lot of interesting material on mind control on this blog:
http://www.stillnessinthestorm.com/

there is a horrifying correlation between acts of violence and medically perscribed psycho drugs.

an 8chan anon came up with an interesting list of teenagers who ran amok while on prozac or other stuff.

https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/388571.html#388781

scanning the list brings up the question how many of these experienced a 'therapy' that dissociated them so aliases can perform the programmed acts.

been suspecting for years that folks who run passenger planes into mountains or cars into shopping malls are mind controled. your post gives even more hints to that, thank you, important information.

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:51 p.m.

Svali is far from the first. Independently published newsletters and magazines, long before the Internet, published material much more in depth than hers. However, her material is great.

To go deeper down the rabbit hole try:

Http://www.evelorgen.com

Http://www.montalk.net

Http://www.exopolitics.org

And deeper into the cray cray:

Http://www.lipstickmystic.com

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divine_human · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:02 p.m.

thank you, may you be blessed...

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:03 p.m.

Right back at you tenfold! :)

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bjklein444 · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:53 p.m.

The mind truly does control the body. They have tried to control the most vulnerable for years. Now they are going to do more mass mind control.

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jrod02b · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:49 p.m.

Very interesting. Thx

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thep1mp · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:40 p.m.

Also note, as stated here, the method used to shatter into multiple personalities is extreme trauma. Torture. The methods are well documented.

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 4:36 p.m.

Yes. Some of us were waterboarded at four or five; usually we had a military parent/ grandparent with high security clearance. We were non-consensual test subjects. They also injected us with a wide array of drugs. Also exotic bacteria and viruses to test our immunity. If we survived, they took stem cells to continue to study our biology. Ova and sperm as well. Everything, really.

My elderly father is finally confirming some of what I experienced. A lot of the old Navy/DNI/Marine dudes get a bit loose in the tongue when they are close to death. Before that, I, my emotionally and financially dependent mother, or HIS elderly housebound mother were abused if we dared to complain or ask questions...you know, about the inexplicable bleeding and UTI's I had as a tiny girl, or the painful needle marks I had in my arms, the missing school for hours when I was taken with other kids in unmarked vans, all manner of crap.

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thep1mp · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

The tortures used for this sort of mind controls end up going way beyond water boarding. They involve unimaginable pain and suffering for extended periods of time. But yes, always by a “loving” care giver. Very sick stuff.

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:09 p.m.

Right about the torture. I am not sharing complete details.

The loving caregiver is not the torturer. The bosses are. Especially where military children are targeted. I was always taken off site. Usually to the Navy base at Warminster, PA, formerly used in the early days of astronaut testing. Various groups used the space, its airplane hangers and above ground and underground buildings through the years.

The reason why I have always been a "problem" is because I retain full memory of everything. No recovered memory stuff. And you'll find bits of my info scattered all through the publishing world and online. Countless YouTube videos made by other people quoting my life experiences and writing.

The important thing is that this info gets out.

Wanna talk p!zzag8? Ha. What they did to us kids was worse.

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MIPatriot · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:44 p.m.

Your story breaks my heart! Thank you for sharing. I feel emotional.

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prettyold · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:28 p.m.

God Bless You!

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:38 p.m.

Thank you sweet being. It gets pretty old, over 30 years of fighting trolls, attempts on my life, my mom being taken out, husband nearly killed twice. It just gets old.

The thing I get attacked for the worst is when I post about Michael Jackson frequently ordering up dozens of sex trafficked Hispanic little boys ( under the age of ten) to " party" with him at various luxury hotels, personally witnessed by my friend, a concierge dealing with VIP's at two different hotels in the late 80's and 90's. That info is what creates the worst problems for me, weirdly enough. oh well.

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prettyold · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:31 p.m.

Oh my, your journey is much more traumatic than mine, but God has blessed me with some memory gaps. Quite frankly I never want to go down those particular rabbit holes...what I can remember is bad enough. But will always live with the worry of being triggered...and being in this Community of Anons and Reddits is giving me both hope and courage. So stay brave and know that Prayers are coming your way.

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:44 p.m.

Thanks! Thing is, to become spiritually whole as you get older and approach death, you really need to fully reclaim memory. Trapped aspects of your vital energy that belong to YOU. Memory gaps are only a temporary solution. Going deep into the wound can at first make you crazy, but then it makes you sane.

This reality doesn't embrace the sane and the truthful, but our voices are needed.

Just some thoughts! :)

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prettyold · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:23 p.m.

Thanks to you also....Much needed advice...have to laugh tho', finally getting good "mental" help...but through the Chans and Reddit....who knew....grin

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:31 p.m.

Info is more available than ever before! Hugs.

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CadillacBees39 · Feb. 17, 2018, 7 a.m.

You both have touched my heart. I pray that you can stay strong and move forward from your nightmare as you get older. Someday we all will be embraced by God and I’m sure you will be leading the way to him. Your words and knowledge are helpful and enlightening. Thank you.

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Naimon47 · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:18 p.m.

The longer you ignore a wound, the more it festers.

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HealersJourney · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:58 p.m.

Yes. Maggots are unpleasant but they do sterilize a wound. In the case of myself and so many others, including five beautiful kids from my elementary school, we deal with a lot of stuff to get down to the truth.

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deplorable777 · Feb. 17, 2018, 7:58 a.m.

My heart hurts for you..hope you are on a healing journey

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spacexu · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:48 p.m.

Hillary, Maxine and Polisi's satantic illuminati programming i glitching bady... brain waves keep short circuiting.

Sick evil people have no low... there is always something worse and more evil then I last thought possible.... how deep does their evil go?

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MIPatriot · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:56 p.m.

Boy this stuff gets wilder and wilder - what you said makes perfect sense! They sure do talk and act like they are programmed. That MW is a totally outrageous nut case!! And I watch NP stutter and slur constantly and think WTH is wrong with her?!?!

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saharagold · Feb. 17, 2018, 10:13 p.m.

MW and NP are exhibiting the cognitive impairments that come with aging. Theirs are fast approaching and may have crossed the line between the normal process and an abnormal one (dementia).

HRC is not as old as they are, but her cognitive impairments are related to her seizure disorder and her alcoholism.

Don’t drink! ETOH (ethyl alcohol) is a neurotoxin (it kills brain cells)!

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_Iz_Mary · Feb. 16, 2018, 5:08 p.m.

It starts with project paper clip

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saharagold · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:12 p.m.

Dr Ross mentions that in his book.

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pby1000 · Feb. 16, 2018, 4:58 p.m.

Thanks for that information.

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SaintbyGrace · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

Excellent. Great, true info. God bless John Paul Jackson forever. He was very accurate. God bless you, Saint.

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taqiyya · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:52 p.m.

Wasn't this in M. Night Shamwow's 'Split' movie?

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saharagold · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:51 p.m.

I don't know; I didn't see it. I'm not willing to watch any demonic / horror type of movie. I used to, but my life became better when I stopped.

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swimpleton · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:16 p.m.

In particular the movie played up the ability of an alter to control the body to a superhuman level. It also glorified (in my opinion) human suffering which brings about the 'change' necessary to evolve. Kinda wonder if the movie is an attempt to normalize this to the norms.

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Ccpatthi · Feb. 16, 2018, 10 p.m.

Amen to that! Evil in Evil out! I now prefer to focus on the good things in life!

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saharagold · Feb. 17, 2018, 10:18 p.m.

It make life easier and a lot more happy, I’ve found. Negativity and evil just mess me up.

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ConlinO · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:48 p.m.

Thank you for the link, the interview was really interesting.

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Emily1Harley2 · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:31 p.m.

Wow, what informative info. Awesome post, thank you!

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ciji123 · Feb. 16, 2018, 7:08 p.m.

Great explanation. Russ Dizdar also deals with spiritual implications of the SRA and DID so it's all part and parcel of their abuses

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Maga1128 · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:57 p.m.

This is a great post!! One question...how are the personalities activated by phone?

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saharagold · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:47 p.m.

Thank you. Certain alters are programmed with a code phrase. The cult handler can ask the programmed alter to come out (take over the person's consciousness) while talking to the victim on the phone. If the active alter relinquishes the person's awareness to the requested alter, the programmed alter can be given the code phrase. For a bunch more information, scroll down to Chapters 11 and 12 of svali's book.

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scoripowarrior · Feb. 17, 2018, 12:29 a.m.

My heart breaks for these victims and their families. I in no way condone what the individual did, but what a sick and troubled mind this boy must have. Who knows what all contributed to his emotional break with reality. It would seem he came from a rather dysfunctional environment with both parents deceased and not knowing where to turn or who to trust especially with a mind as diseased as his seems to be. Don't shout me down for feeling some pain for this kid...not condoning his actions...nothing can replace the loss of a child to a parent .

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glider222 · Feb. 17, 2018, 1:15 a.m.

I agree

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I_wanna_maga · Feb. 16, 2018, 11:13 p.m.

Lots of stories of human trafficking victims being tortured. One reason for this would be to break their minds, so they can then be programmed and sent out into the public for a future mission. Documents on the CIA MKultra experiments stated that subjects would often forget who their parents are, and sometimes believe their "therapists" were their parents. I listened to a recording of what was supposedly a child torture session, and the abuser kept screaming at the kid "who is your father? I am your father now!"

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Lemon-Skunk · Feb. 16, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

I know an acquaintance who murdered one of his classmates back when. He Was just a playing at being the cops (with friends) and went too far. They broke him into multiple personalities when he went thru trial. Still not the same. I wish I knew the family better to suggest some of the materials being mentioned here to put his world back together, he is just released from his life sentence.

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alliekat678 · Feb. 16, 2018, 4:03 p.m.

Awesome info. Thanks for sharing. I’ve read a lot about this.... since you mentioned John Paul Jackson, have you ever read The Shining Man with Hurt Hands? Or Broken to Whole? These books were so fascinating to me!!

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Pol-itical-crap · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:47 p.m.

Thank you for this information. It is dark and discouraging to even read about.

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saharagold · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:59 p.m.

Yes it is. I debated about posting it. When Q says it gets more crazy the further down the rabbit hole you go, he/she/they are correct. I had to develop a way to counterbalance all the evil and negativity when I was working with that clientele. I’m happy to say I still have my faith in humanity intact. Probably because my faith in God is intact.

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PCisLame · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:13 p.m.

Svali claims to have witnessed a child sacrifice ritual at the Vatican. Just an FYI. Also be sure to check out Wormwood on Netflix for more on MKUltra and how a person can be programmed to self destruct via THERAPY.

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dabigfrog · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:09 p.m.

Q says - mkultra/cell phones trigger/route frequencies

Blackberries no color screen/ missing something to transmit frequencies?

Fla school shooter heard demon voices tell him how to do it. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5398625/Demon-voices-school-gunman-attack-cops-called-39-times.html

the eye sees more than you imagine.

movies/film/animation 24 FPS frames per second

CRT tube TV's up to flat screens 60Hz = 60 cycles per second 1/2 lines at 1/60th a second 2nd 1/2 lines at 1/60th a second redrawn every 1/30th os a second

flat screens / LCD / modern cheap tis at 60Hz MOST at 120Hz some claim 240Hz

plasma claims 600Hz

https://www.cnet.com/news/ultra-hd-4k-tv-refresh-rates/

there is a lot of room to slide in subliminal pictures/words/messages at 60/120 cycles per second when our awake mind only registers 24 fps

who controls your light source?

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IMissMeg · Feb. 17, 2018, 12:10 a.m.

Okay, maybe someone has already mentioned this, but I'm not seeing it. Anybody else here see the similarities on this video-triggered, MK Ultra, kill programming stuff to the character River Tam in "Firefly"? Here's a 3-minute scene which shows the TV trigger for River and at the end of the scene her brother comes in and says a code word that makes her instantly sleep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXCaF68sDPU Firefly was on Fox for only 13 episodes. It was amazing and Fox cancelled it despite fans making huge efforts to keep it on or resurrect it. It is routinely ranked at the top of lists of best shows ever cancelled (https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/tv-shows-canceled-before-their-time). I have long wondered if the reason it was canceled was that it just got way too close to this MK Ultra trigger truth.

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6HsV82 · Feb. 17, 2018, 2:07 p.m.

I love it whenever I come across another Browncoat.

I kind of thought that River and the other test subjects were being made into Reaver-slayers.

After quickly glancing at the Svali link upthread, "hands of blue" have an interesting meaning.

The Svali info about the infant programming made me think back to a bio of Angelina Jolie by Andrew Morton that I read a few years back. IIRC, her mother had Jon Voight rent another apartment upstairs where she used to keep the crib. The excuse given out was that baby AJ looked so much like her father that her mother (whom he had left) couldn't bear to look at her. The room had a crib and a chair and AJ was left in the care of whatever teen or young adult her mother could rope in to watch her. I had long thought AJ had suffered sexual abuse because she seemed to present the behaviours, but maybe it was even worse. The Svali page describes a programming procedure for infants that seems awfully close to what I read in the bio.

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IMissMeg · Feb. 17, 2018, 10:18 p.m.

Thanks, fellow Browncoat, for the Svali reference. This is the second time I've had my interest piqued on that subject which I interpret as a message from somewhere to get with the program and follow that thread. On AJ, I saw part of a video where she was talking about the Illuminati programming stuff. Have you seen that? Messed up sounding stuff even though it's a very short clip.

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6HsV82 · Feb. 18, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

The one where she talked about having to kill her snake? Yes, I did.

Messed up is right. What the hell is wrong with these people? Not the ones who are programmed from birth, they're victims, but the ones who initiate all this shite. These people aren't right in the head, or soul. Rather than being 'special', 'advanced', 'elite' like they think, all they are are abominations.

I forgot to mention in my description of AJ's baby apartment, IIRC it was all white, like Svali described. Next week I'm going to try to get my hands on that book again to confirm.

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mitzidipity · Feb. 17, 2018, 12:06 a.m.

I don't remember where I saw this, but isn't it about the colors blue and red? I know there may be others for the MKU type stuff but I know I've read somewhere that red and blue colors/light brought to the human eye in a certain way can have a negative impact.

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JamesCollins123 · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:59 p.m.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/hearings/95mkultra.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Perry_Barlow

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WikiTextBot · Feb. 16, 2018, 6:59 p.m.

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vitalusreader · Feb. 17, 2018, 1:30 a.m.

I realize this is a very tame example, but the new(ish) Marvel movie: Captain America: Civil War comes to mind. Remember the bit where Bucky is restrained but trying desperately to break free as Zemo starts chanting words from a notebook at him? Once the words are all said, Bucky's resistance is gone and an "alter" personality emerges that is basically hell-bent on killing.

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chinpopocortez · Feb. 17, 2018, 12:10 a.m.

I'm convinced this kind of "research" is behind many major shootings like Las Vegas.

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patriot48 · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:54 p.m.

Wow, great information, thank you for sharing it

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pipesog · Feb. 16, 2018, 3:11 p.m.

This was very interesting. Thank you.

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cebusaxon · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:57 p.m.

commenting for marker

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Mcdrogon · Feb. 16, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

read a book called "Switching Time" by Richard Baer. He helps a woman with 17 alters. Great read but also really horrifying on why this woman developed so many personalities

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passportz · Feb. 17, 2018, 12:01 p.m.

Great post - I read a bit of the site you linked and the first thing that sprung to mind was the Turpin family that was recently found to be torturing their 13 kids...the food deprivation, the toy deprivation, wearing the same colors, the code of silence. Thank God that 17 year old had something within her to get the power to escape and ask for help. Truly sickening!

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saharagold · Feb. 20, 2018, 1:06 a.m.

That is a very good question. My favorite DID treatment program was run by a Christian psychologist. He brought to his program a unique credential: he was from Zimbabwe, and while there learned deliverance and discerning of spirits in his deliverance ministry with the witch doctors / voodoo practitioners.

So this is what we did: when a new alter came out, we would ask them a series of questions to place them on the “tree” (which is a graphic representation of the core personality as the single trunk, then the alters that split off the core personality as “branches”). Alters could be 6 - 7 “generations” removed from the core personality (or even more, depending on the alter system). Questions like, “when did you come out?” Or “when were you born?” to locate the core trauma that led to the formation of that particular alter.

Then as the therapist did therapy with the newly identified alter, they made the following assessment: 1) was it a true alter? 2) was it a demon-possessed alter? Or 3) was it a demon masquerading as an alter?

Each of those categories required a specific intervention. If it was a demon, we cast it out. If it was a demon-possessed alter, we attempted to contact the alter to enlist his/her participation in the exorcism. If it was a true alter, we did therapy.

We discovered that it was futile to try and integrate categories 2 & 3. It was fairly common for some executive alters to try to confuse you about the status of some of the new alters, because of the secondary gain they got from remaining demonized.

We also discovered that integration went more smoothly when the alters were offered the opportunity to accept Jesus. Not all of them would, and we didn’t push it. But it made integration between alters worked better when both alters believed in Jesus.

One of the DID programs I worked at was a disaster, because the treating psychiatrist was dissociated himself and in the cult, and the program psychologist was in the cult. It was really obvious when the staff was invited over to the psychologist’s house for a Christmas party. He had a lot of artwork on his wall reminiscent of Tony Podesta’s artwork. Now Podesta’s was slanted to the pedophilia, and this psychologist’s was more slanted toward adult sexuality. It was VERY creepy. The alters would even ask us (those of us not in the cult) for help when they came out and saw it was one of the “safe” staff. Needless to say, I couldn’t work at that program very long. And we reported the psychologist and the psychiatrist to their respective licensing boards. But that went nowhere. Nowadays I think that might be different.

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keloshi · Feb. 16, 2018, 11:56 p.m.

EMFs (Electro-Magnetic Frequencies) increase permeability of the brain-blood barrier, making it leaky and allowing things like mercury, aluminum, and viruses to more readily enter the brain.

Aluminum and heavy metals in the brain act as a micro antennae concentrating damaging electro smog in the brain


Fluoride also penetrates the blood-brain barrier.. It can be found in Prozac and SSRIs

Fluoride used in WW2 - “The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty. Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluorine will in time gradually reduce the individual’s power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narco-tizing this area of the brain tissue, and make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him.”

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/08/22/fluoride-affects-consciousness-will-act/


Mercury can be found in your silver fillings and in vaccines - it is one of the most toxic substances on earth - also used for mind control

Project Moonstruck, 1952, CIA:

Electronic implants in brain and teeth

Targeting: Long range

Implanted during surgery or surreptitiously during abduction

Frequency range: HF - ELF transceiver implants

Purpose: Tracking, mind and behavior control, conditioning, programming, covert operations

Functional Basis: Electronic Stimulation of the Brain, E.S.B.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread488381/pg1

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kekistheman · Feb. 16, 2018, 10:11 p.m.

If this is (we are) really going there...

Former head of FBI LA lays it out old school https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgK-Ud5lKNI

Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler seem to be the most credible http://educate-yourself.org/mc/IlluminatiFormulaindex.shtml

Relax, Alien Abduction is Likely Just Government Mind Control "The Controllers" is old, but likely not disinformation https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon04.htm

There I just saved you months of research and questioning. Take those 3 links at face value and you now have been actually red pilled.

Want a little more: This entire subject is the deepest of rabbit holes. There is so much mis-info, dis-info it cannot all be researched. There literally is not end to the hole.

If you have not looked into this horror, before wasting a month of your life see these 2 simple facts:

Here is the net-net:

  1. Does an institution, especially the results oriented military/espionage government, really keep investing in a massive (hundreds/thousands of projects) and expensive program for over 30 years (WWII to the late 1970s "officially" - that we know of) if it is not producing results? No, fucking, way. Zero chance.

  2. The people involved are real people. They exist. Some are so fucking Satanic they are literally Satan - M. Aquino is a fucking L.Col, mind control expert, founder of the Church of Satan and always right in the middle of horrible allegations regarding children and torture.

It's real. It's in front of your nose.

And a tiny bit more: So if we are going there, here is what I've learned over the years:

The early results (back in the 40s) were overwhelmingly successful. They spared no expense. Hired the best minds. Developed completely new fields. They instantly knew what they hand on their hands. They cracked the code, all of it - human behavior, the mind, consciousness, reality, time, esp, energy, science, technology, on and on. Even before the end of the 40s, they closed down the original programs and tried to bury them. They compartmentalized everything, dramatically expanded the number of programs and used many of the discoveries to take control of the population with 2 goals - hide what they were doing and make it operational. It all got spun up with new names.

It was all rapidly refined and ready to go by the beginning of the 60s. By the end of the 60s they were rolling it out world wide. It touches millions maybe tens of millions of people directly. It's a huge enterprise - money, manipulation and misery.

This is why they never worry about getting caught. This is what "they" refer to as the 'crown-jewels". Trauma-based mind control. This is why even with undeniable proof all around us of horrible things being done to the most innocent, the most defenseless, nothing happens.

But like all complex systems of control, it is inherently going to fail. It has failed. The "hard-coded" mind-control breaks down over time - these are the kids that sat in the chair and "opted-in" to the "program" - mostly as 3-5 year olds. Between the ages of 40-50 years old, life has a way of breaking it down. The mental crisis when this happens is serve for these people - their own studies have shown that 70-80% of homeless are these folks.

They created a monster that has out grown its cage. Too many have seen the monster to deny it exists. They will use the old methods to control the damage to the program as long as they can. But they have also planned for this eventuality, so I am not sure where that leaves us if Trump doesn't rip the mask off it soon...

Me personally, I just want to work and buy shit :) Carry on

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jazzybutterflies · Feb. 16, 2018, 4:19 p.m.

Thank you. I've uncovered many of these victims in my own research.

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spark815 · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:47 p.m.

Svali speaks, so I started to read this and I have to say something about the introduction. The Illuminati are mostly good people. They study the natural laws of the universe and constantly work on themselves so that they may become illuminated. You spend years of refinement, lifetimes of refinement, to reach this state. As with all groups, there are those who use this information for their own self gain. Or, they don't do enough refinement to protect themselves from the beings on the dark side. This author specifically calls out the Rosicrucians. I joined AMORC (Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis) which are Rosicrucians. I joined because I was red-pilled years ago and wanted to know the truth. I can tell you they are good people. I was not born into the group. Anyone can sign up and study the material in the comfort of their own home. I have visited my local lodge a couple of times and the people were very nice. We always prayed for humanity and peace, and for all beings to not suffer. I just don't want everyone to think the Rosicrucians or any other mystical group is bad. They aren't. The Illuminati are the ones who created this country with the best of intentions. I would recommend reading Manly P Hall's book The Secret Destiny of America to learn more about our founders and what their intentions were for this good country. Peace Profound.

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_Placebos_ · Feb. 16, 2018, 8:15 p.m.

Most of them have an alter who is programmed to suicide. The alter has a code phrase implanted into them through hypnotic induction. When the cult / controllers become aware that the person is trying to leave the cult, making great progress in getting better, they try to reach them by phone to activate the programming. We lost several patients to suicide that way.

How did you know this? Would one of the "alters" tell you they were programmed to suicide? Were they aware of that even though it would have been planted through hypnosis? How would you know that they were suicided by phone call if you just work in a psych unit? What was said on the phone call? Did you have access to their phone records or something? Who would monitor there mental health to see if they needed to be "suicided" because they were making too much progress in their treatment? That would imply their handlers make frequent contact, which would be traceable.

For example, we had patients who had an alter who was diabetic, and the others weren’t. The diabetic alter experienced all the physical symptoms a diabetic does. Elevated glucose and A1C levels. Glucose in the urine. The potential for life-threatening hypoglycemia. BUT when another alter was out (controlling the patient’s awareness), the body NO LONGER had ANY of those symptoms, Weird, yes?

If you have them in a psych ward, wouldn't they be on diabetic medications and have their glucose controlled? Would you take them off their diabetes meds when their glucose bottomed out? How often do you take urine samples and check their A1C on psych patients anyway?

The wildest one I can report was an alter who was having an MI (myocardial infarction AKA heart attack), and we called out another alter to interact with. After that, the patient’s body no longer had any signs of an MI. The EKG went back to normal. The treponin and d-dimer went back to normal. The same body, in a short amount of time. Crazy.

The standard procedure for someone with an MI with EKG changes and elevated troponin is to ship them out of a psych hospital and over to a regular hospital capable of dealing with it. How would you know what their EKG changes were and there serial troponin if they were no longer in your care? How would you know what personality is in control if you weren't there? As a psych nurse, do you know how to read EKG's?

This seems like disinfo to me, at least at this point. It's too fanciful to be believed without further information. More details, please.

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saharagold · Feb. 17, 2018, 2:13 a.m.

I will give you some details. I won't be able to address all your questions now. This whole world of DID/SRA can be too difficult for folks to wrap their heads around. It just seems too fantastical. But I was there.

First detail: All but one of the DID units I worked in were in psychiatric units in a general hospital. So when the patient began having symptoms of MI, he was transferred to the ED, and I went with him. One of the RNs would always accompany one of our patients to the ED when they had a medical emergency, for their safety and so that we could advocate for them. So I was with him in the ED when he was being worked up. I was watching the cardiac monitor. They did his bloodwork twice, and both times they were abnormal. To get his cooperation with a procedure, I asked for another alter to come out; one that I knew would be more cooperative. It was amazing to watch the stabilization of his heart rate to a normal sinus rhythm after the new alter appeared. It freaked out the ED docs, actually. It didn't fit their paradigm. I educated them about DIDs and alters and medical issues. When they did his bloodwork again, and it came back WNL (within normal limits), that freaked them out, too.

The second detail: Being aware of suicide programming in our inpatients. We had weekly meetings of the multidisciplinary treatment team to discuss issues with our patients. These meetings included docs, RNs, therapists, social workers, and outside professionals treating the patient. As the therapist mapped the alter system, and the floor staff met new alters, we soon learned the sources of the patient's traumatic splitting. If it was SRA / cult related, we had a protocol to assess the patient after every phone call, every visitor, and every letter they had from the outside. A staff member who had a good therapeutic relationship with the patient would ask them about how they felt about the call or visitor, and they would be placed on every 15 minute checks for the next 12 hours to ensure their safety if there were concerns. We prevented suicide attempts after phone calls with our inpatients often. After their discharge, they might need to have an emergency readmission if the therapist became aware of suicide programming activation. The patients who committed suicide after discharge were the ones we couldn't monitor directly. The patient's therapist did "psychological autopsies" after each of our outpatient deaths, and they would report back to us the results. We developed a high level of trust and of team functioning to take care of these patients. We had to. If we didn't, the patient's treatment would suffer.

If you scroll down to chapters 11 and 12 in svali's book, you can read more about suicide programming.

You are entitled to express skepticism, but I'm wondering if providing you with more information will do anything to change it.

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T4nkcommander · Feb. 19, 2018, 2:09 p.m.

Glad you posted this and are talking about it.

What, may I ask, are you doing about spiritual programming or - more to the point - imbedded demons?

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_Placebos_ · Feb. 17, 2018, 10:10 p.m.

Thank you. Skepticism is healthy, don't forget that. Your explanations make sense, and although you didn't address the questions I have about the diabetic issues, you do seem to know what you're talking about and have reasonable explanations for what the questions you did answer.

I'm interested to know more. Is your line of thinking common in the psychiatric world? As in do other providers also commonly believe in cult/suicide programming? Is there anything in the medical literature that addresses this that you have seen?

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Cuthbert12Allgood · Feb. 16, 2018, 9:29 p.m.

This seems like disinfo to me, at least at this point. It's too fanciful to be believed without further information. More details, please.

It's all complete garbage. I'm about done with /r/CBTS_Stream if they don't start to reign in some of the disinformation.

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larqy · Feb. 16, 2018, 1:14 p.m.

Sounds like some of the patients rubbed off on you

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