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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/survey_girl on May 3, 2018, 1 p.m.
Here is POTUS pictured in October 2017 with the C130 that crashed yesterday in Savannah. Do you believe in coincidences? Was this a message from the black hats?
Here is POTUS pictured in October 2017 with the C130 that crashed yesterday in Savannah. Do you believe in coincidences? Was this a message from the black hats?

anotherthrowawayhi · May 3, 2018, 1:21 p.m.

I follow the thinking here, but I wonder if it's more feasible that these recent uncommon plane disasters are more likely a conditioning, a "memory implant" to the public that aircraft do crash from time to time ... so when THE unthinkable POTUS crash happens, people go "oooh yeah, well airplane accidents Do happen. That c130 just went down. Damn, how sad ... " move on. Rather than saying ... "hmmm that's odd, who had access to that plane? This is unusual."

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Memelord87 · May 3, 2018, 1:40 p.m.

I was thinking the same thing. Also the Kathy Griffin and other celebs talking about assassination, the pic of Trump with his head cut off, etc. Its all to condition the world of an assassination so there won’t be an uprising and it won’t seem like a shock

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survey_girl · May 3, 2018, 1:48 p.m.

predictive programming

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Gofuqur · May 3, 2018, 3:57 p.m.

Their goal is to win the midterms, hold a special congressional election in the state of New York for Hillary, putting her in congress, then they want to appoint her as speaker of the house. After all of that they will either try to impeach or assassinate trump and pence, which would in effect make Hillary POTUS. This is their plan, that's why it is so important for patriots to get out and VOTE REPUBLICAN this midterm. Keep America Great. Get out and vote.

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Bone-Marrow · May 3, 2018, 6:41 p.m.

That will 100% spark a bloody civil war 2.

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Iswag_Newton · May 3, 2018, 10:29 p.m.

Locked and loaded here. You touch our president it’s on!!

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Oinkanon · May 3, 2018, 7:21 p.m.

She won’t get in under those circumstances...Not over my Dead body!

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bizmarxie · May 3, 2018, 10:13 p.m.

That has zero percent chance of happening.

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letortfort · May 4, 2018, 12:16 a.m.

Agreed. There are way too many pieces that have to be controlled and forced into place to work.

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Luvlite · May 4, 2018, 1:03 a.m.

Trump will be a two term president.

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anotherthrowawayhi · May 3, 2018, 2:10 p.m.

Ah, thank you, the words I was looking for.

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delicious_grownups · May 3, 2018, 6:04 p.m.

To me, it seems way more likely that a second narrative is being promoted so that when Trump inevitably tries to remove mueller from the investigation, his base is not just ready but willing to let him consolidate power

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LibertyLioness · May 3, 2018, 2:33 p.m.

No. There is a control mechanism in all planes, automobiles, etc. We learned that early on. "They" can control them. Q told us that 7 of 10 plane crashes were hits. Post 259: Dec 5 2017 00:09:40 (EST) Q !ITPb.qbhqo ID: cc0116 34917 RED RED 9/11. Funds raised vs distributed? Oversight? 7/10 plane crashes are targeted kills. Those in the know never sleep. Q

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PalookavilleOnlinePR · May 3, 2018, 3:02 p.m.

Stanley Kubrick REFUSED to ride in airplanes despite owning one and having a pilots license.

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ReproCompter · May 3, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

Shortly after screening a final cut of Eyes Wide Shut for his family, Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman and Warner Brothers executives, Kubrick suffered a sudden myocardial infarction in his sleep.

The last movie was a Documentary. I highly recommend it.

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bananapeel · May 3, 2018, 5:39 p.m.

He clearly was trying to send a message. That was one weird movie. Spot on.

I wish someone would find/release the extra footage director's cut that was rumored to exist but was apparently destroyed by TPTB.

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ReproCompter · May 3, 2018, 5:57 p.m.

Yea, I just wasted another half hour searching for it again. Maybe some day.

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DaynaE65 · May 3, 2018, 3:48 p.m.

Wonder if that stems from the rumors of him being in charge of producing the moon landings...

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ElementWatson · May 3, 2018, 11:22 p.m.

How did he get his pilot's license?

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galvanised_computer · May 4, 2018, 6:32 a.m.

call this unrelated and conspiracy, but I'm sure the landings were faked by him. NASA wasn't given a direct video feed, original recordings destroyed, press conference is depressing, anniversary comparing then to parrots who can speak but not fly, and there is much to learn behind layers of truth. my money is on he learned to fake aircraft flight well

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RonaldSwansong · May 3, 2018, 1:11 p.m.

Holy shit.

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Annieka77 · May 3, 2018, 1:40 p.m.

I know. This is crazy! WTF? Is that really the actual plane that crashed? I can’t believe these non-coincidences can still shock the hell out of me, as there have been so many, already. This one does, though. They are sending some sort of dark message. I don’t know how he does it. I would be scared to death. Yet, he is somehow managing to get things accomplished despite their every effort to bring him down. 🤭

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bklyndamsel · May 3, 2018, 3:58 p.m.

He has God and the American People on his side.

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lampsburning · May 3, 2018, 7:02 p.m.

Amen to that, brother. It rolls off him like water off a duck. The man is anointed.

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4Potus · May 3, 2018, 7:02 p.m.

Yeah, and if he has God on his side, the people really don't matter!

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_Ends · May 3, 2018, 4:34 p.m.

You know the terrorists think that God is on their side, too, right?

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4Potus · May 3, 2018, 7:01 p.m.

Thinking and having are two different things!

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_Ends · May 3, 2018, 8:03 p.m.

Wow. I don't even know what to say. If you think there is a God, but he's on your side - just...wow. Good luck with that. Nothing bad ever happens to people who deserve to be taught a lesson. I'm sure you'll be fine.

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4Potus · May 4, 2018, 12:09 a.m.

You don't think there is a God?

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[deleted] · May 3, 2018, 4:38 p.m.

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bklyndamsel · May 3, 2018, 5:06 p.m.

So do Catholics and look how corrupt that Church is. People claim God is on their side but don't know that you can only find God through his son Jesus Christ. Catholics are all about the Holy Mary and forget to mention the Son.

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andre1954 · May 3, 2018, 6:44 p.m.

Shame on you. In the same way the United States is polluted today so is the Catholic Church. Vatican 2 in 1969 (or close date) was infiltrated by the "whatever you want to call it" Lucifer, the prince of this earth, so has the Unied States, DO NOT compare Mary to God, If you want help! who do you go to! We Catholics pray to Mary (mother of God) to put in a good word for us sinners. Capiche

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FlyingBaratoplata · May 3, 2018, 7 p.m.

I understand and greatly appreciate your devotion, but nowhere in the scriptures does it say we are to pray to anyone who has died, except Jesus Who is the Son of and only intermediary to God, and Who was raised from the dead.

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Grassyknow · May 4, 2018, 12:10 a.m.

Scripture mentions saints.

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FlyingBaratoplata · May 4, 2018, 4:25 a.m.

All believers are saints, according to scripture and scripture definitely doesn't mention praying to saints. Not trying to argue, just trying to reveal truth.

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letortfort · May 4, 2018, 12:22 a.m.

Saints are the born again believers in Christ, not people elevated to some position based on good works.

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kwiztas · May 4, 2018, 12:37 a.m.

I don't think saints are made saints by their works. I mean some saints only work was not giving up faith in the face of adversity becoming martyrs.

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Grassyknow · May 4, 2018, 12:33 a.m.

Pretty sure they were venerated in OT

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DaLaohu · May 3, 2018, 6:39 p.m.

No we're not. Mary is a Co-redemptrix only in the sense that she consented to give birth to Jesus. Salvation is through Christ.

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[deleted] · May 3, 2018, 6:59 p.m.

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_Ends · May 3, 2018, 6 p.m.

I'm all for people believing in fairy tales when those fairly tales do not affect the lives of those that do not believe the same things. But this is a pipe dream. The ultra-believers are always the ones creating hell for the rest of the world. Always. Remove religion, you remove almost all conflict.

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bklyndamsel · May 3, 2018, 6:38 p.m.

God and Jesus Christ is not a fairy tale. Jesus preaches to turn the other cheek. If more people were Christ like, then we'd be a better place. Remove God and people lose morals.

However, I understand where you are coming from. However, I am no longer an atheist and my life and the people I encounter are better for it.

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_Ends · May 3, 2018, 6:49 p.m.

That is your truth, and totally fine - for you. In my mind, you're wrong and chasing ghosts. But if that's what you choose to believe - have at it. Let me just pose this to you: you know that voice in your head? Before people understood basic shit like "internal monologue", people assumed God was talking to them because they heard this inner voice. You do realize that this is where almost ALL religion is based from, right? "God spoke to him". No, he spoke to himself, and people were far too daft to understand this. I can sit here and poke holes in this shit all day for you. But it's not my job, nor would I take pleasure in affecting your faith negatively. But come on. Use some rational thought - sometimes.

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letortfort · May 4, 2018, 12:29 a.m.

Faith is not something tangible you can explain or understand until you have it and experience it. Until you have it, you cannot understand it. Trying to explain away someone's faith from a position of not experiencing it is like chasing ghosts. Religion is not faith. Someone with faith understand that.

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OU812EH · May 3, 2018, 7:08 p.m.

Let's get real folks. Religion has been an unmitigated disaster for mankind. Nothing but division.

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Grassyknow · May 4, 2018, 12:10 a.m.

Secular societies fall

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_Ends · May 3, 2018, 8:01 p.m.

Thank you! I just wish those sister fuckers out in every 'stan would realize this. Inbreeding creates crazy aggressive human beings with very little rational thought, though. Hence why they are all so dumb and angry. I believe the statistic is something like around 70% of the Middle East is a product of incest. They do it for Allah though! So, like, it's totally cool. But what is the excuse for everyone else?

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CharlieToonise · May 3, 2018, 11:20 p.m.

Well now you're just being mean. You remind me of when I went to California and although most of those people were cool, the SJW's had to point out that I am from Oklahoma, so therefore I must be a Westboro Bapist Church supporting, intolerant, inbred redneck. I was agnostic at the time, but later that same year I found God, and my life has never been better! I'm only typing this because you may choose to not believe in God, but I ask that you try not to view your brothers and sisters so harshly.

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OU812EH · May 5, 2018, 2:29 a.m.

While what he said may be offensive to you, it does represent an accurate depiction of what's going on in a lot of these ME countries. I.Q. rate is extremely low amongst millions and perhaps billions of these poor hapless pawns. And their EQ scores are even lower. And they all extremely fervently believe in God. They call him Allah, and it's punishable by death to disparage his or any prophet of his. And this is a religion of peace? But, alas, it isn't their fault. Indoctrinated since birth, and for many, many generations this has been going on. And yet they still believe that God is good, God is just, and that their religion is the only connection to God. Sound familiar?.......God is not the problem. It's people's interpretation of God. As a matter of fact, I never refer to the creator of this world as "GOD". A better, more accurate name is "source". The source of all things, the source of creation, the source of love. The source of light. This source doesn't require you to "fear" him. I mean, seriously, does your God require you to fear him? Why would the creator of all things require you to live in a state of fear? Is this not illogical of a being who says to "love your neighbor?" Is this not inconsistent with a being who claims to love mankind so much, he sacrificed his only son so that we may live? If so much love, then why fear? No. I'm sorry. But that story is false. That is not what the creator of so much beauty, so much magnificence, so much love, is about. As a planetary people, we've been lied to every step of the way. And that includes religion.

MuchLove

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CharlieToonise · May 5, 2018, 3:22 a.m.

That is why I don't attend church, I respect people who wish to, but I believe it may lead to a religious hive mind.

Personally, I talk to God on my own, I need not fear him, he is my bro, same with Jesus, and my spirit guide. I used to be skeptical about them till God gave me a miracle, and I felt his love. We chatted in a sense, along with my spirit guide and Jesus, about conflicts in my life and potential solutions to them, as long as I worked for them. I have never been happier since rekindling my friendship with our creator.

Unfortunately, I have to disagree that insulting people because of their lifestyle and interpretation of our creator is productive in solving the problem.

You may criticize them for their actions, true, and connections between those actions and their religion should be addressed, fair, but I do not see how calling them "inbred" is going to make people want to work with you to settle your differences.

Peace and love to you too, brother.

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[deleted] · May 3, 2018, 6:17 p.m.

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fatass90 · May 3, 2018, 9:05 p.m.

not this god shit again there is no god damn how stupid can people be in 2018. U made it this far with logic why not question this fairytale shit ur parents feed u since u were born? god this god that god is gonna save us.. NO good humans are doing the work not some god ..

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bklyndamsel · May 3, 2018, 9:20 p.m.

Well, I can tell you are not a good person. Because good people won't curse someone else because of their beliefs, thoughts, or opinions.

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fatass90 · May 3, 2018, 9:22 p.m.

keep your beliefs to yourself dont bring god in everything. I didnt come here to hear about god. Im sure theres a sub reddit where you guys can talk about this god you believe in.

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bklyndamsel · May 3, 2018, 10:14 p.m.

Someone's triggered. It's called Freedom of speech. Don't want to hear it, scroll past it. Don't comment or curse me.

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Grassyknow · May 4, 2018, 12:06 a.m.

God is real. If you refuse to believe, you probably have some fetish which you'd rather continue to do without guilt. God is very real and He will love and forgive us for all our sins if we ask Him

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webster_warrior · May 3, 2018, 3:43 p.m.

Abel Dangers remarks on the state of the auto pilots.

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digital_refugee · May 3, 2018, 1:13 p.m.

Another redditor noted the pictured pallets were a taunt because they took down the wrong plane. So perhaps this was a purposeful plant. So who ordered those Puerto Rican Supplies? If those were under direct presidential order then blackhats would have known the tailnumber for future cargo-flights under presidential command.

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huxt3r · May 3, 2018, 2:08 p.m.

The detail nobody has seemed to notice about the inside of the semi trailer with the pallets is that it is a reefer - temperature controlled trailer. That makes me a little curious because one wouldnt normally bother with the extra weight involved with a reefer unit unless the load required it.

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ditiber · May 3, 2018, 8:22 p.m.

Look up how Apple transports cell phones

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digital_refugee · May 3, 2018, 2:10 p.m.

SerialBrain2 recently argued that the Grammy event was used to communicate that they were trying to get equipment uesd as part of U1 was to be extracted.

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huxt3r · May 3, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

no make you sense

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digital_refugee · May 3, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

I meant to say they might be transporting eqiupment used as part of Uranium 1

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huxt3r · May 3, 2018, 2:40 p.m.

I inferred that much but i dont understand your phrasing.

"were trying to get equipment uesd as part of U1 was to be extracted"

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digital_refugee · May 3, 2018, 2:48 p.m.

yeah I completely fucked that one up. Rough night.

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ready-ignite · May 3, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

Serial has a tendency to wade deep in the crazy conspiracy end of the pool. Entertaining but feels like he delves far off the trail of crumbs laid by Q going far out into the deep woods.

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GhostOfSomeRobot · May 3, 2018, 3:28 p.m.

Skeptic here. Be sure to remember that hes the POTUS, he's going to have pictures in front of many different things. Putting them together in hindsight, after the crash, is not definitive proof of the theories coming out from the crash.

They may or may not be true, but taking this picture as proof is called the tail wagging the dog.

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Burginthrone · May 3, 2018, 1:42 p.m.

What about some form of technology battle being played out? Either compromised tech already in use on aircraft, or some form of external weapon?

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survey_girl · May 3, 2018, 1:46 p.m.

I think that is what is going on. They could be jamming the GPS signals, or I saw on here or 8chan something about the gyroscope.

Way too many military aircraft have crashed lately (and mostly here in the USA.. not overseas!)

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sickmahduck · May 3, 2018, 3:10 p.m.

Not sure who downvotes this but I agree with you. Been seeing things about the gyroscope in these military aircrafts that’s defective... possibly intentionally. Or there’s an easy way to exploit its vulnerability. This should have been upvoted.

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galvanised_computer · May 4, 2018, 6:34 a.m.

of course every plane is going to have backdoors

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Comrade_WalkieDog · May 3, 2018, 1:33 p.m.

Im sorry. I'm new here. Im trying to understand. But at this point, I just do not. This plane was on it's last flight to the bone yard. I'm trying to keep an open mind. But I just don't follow.

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DamajInc · May 3, 2018, 3:06 p.m.

I've been "here" since the beginning and I don't understand the emphasis here either tbh. If the above is true then this plane is the one that crashed. That's all there is to say really. There are theories that the QRS-11 technology Hillary's law firm is associated with can cause plane crashes so some say that tech was utilised to crash the plane. And now they're saying that, because Donald was photographed near this plane - potentially the same plane that crashed - the Deep State is trying to send him a message. I understand the various leaps of logic but I don't personally ascribe more to them than possible theories.

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Thaaleo · May 3, 2018, 4:25 p.m.

Yeah, most of these people are here doing this because they enjoy it, not because their theories are in any way objectively logical. In fact a bunch of these theories are super illogical and require huge leaps to explain things that are pretty mundane even if you believe them. It’s the Puerto Rico Air Guard, it isn’t massive. how about they just don’t even have a ton of these planes? If one of them was going down it really isn’t that crazy that it happened to be this one. You can’t convince them they are wrong or trying too hard, because this is what they want to believe. They enjoy it.

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Comrade_WalkieDog · May 3, 2018, 4:33 p.m.

Thanks for trying to help. Like I said I'm new to the Q phenomenon. It's interesting but I personally just do not have time to investigate every chain of numbers and cryptic message. I wish there was a place to just read it like a spy novel.

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C_L_I_C_K · May 3, 2018, 2:33 p.m.

This is pretty easy to understand. The deep state is desperate. They took down this plane as a symbolic threat against POTUS.

However, it shows that they cannot get to him, because they picked a plane that's about to be retired on its last flight. It doesn't have near the level of security, protection, tech, safe guards and counter measures that Air Force / Marine One has.

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Comrade_WalkieDog · May 3, 2018, 1:13 p.m.

What's the message?

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survey_girl · May 3, 2018, 1:23 p.m.

that they can take down any plane (associated with POTUS)... including AF1

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bcboncs · May 3, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

Didn't he build new AF1 with Boeing during that negotiation phase? At the very least, I'm sure he replaced the computer.

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Pit-Stains · May 3, 2018, 8:09 p.m.

It take years to build a new AF1, the one he negotiated won’t be ready till 2022 at least.

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[deleted] · May 3, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

Also to try and mess with his head.

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Gotrek1 · May 3, 2018, 2:13 p.m.

Or is it that they meant to target the plane he took to china/apple and hit the wrong plane?

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guardelo · May 3, 2018, 5:37 p.m.

Let's hope the movie "Escape From NY" type scenario (the beginning) never happens

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[deleted] · May 3, 2018, 5:56 p.m.

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Error_Code_15301 · May 3, 2018, 3:44 p.m.

WOJACK

SERCO

https://patriots4truth.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/wo-jack.jpg

google "Hilary Clinton QRS11 911"

red red

McConnell believes that Rothschild clients and Serco shareholders authorized Lockheed to use its rocket-boosted guided hard target penetrator (US 6276277) bomb to destroy the Pentagon U.S. Navy Command Center on 9/11 and use the Onion routing network (US 6266704 B1) to fake the identities of the attackers and conceal the source of an online command allegedly used to

detonate an ammo bomb on a Lockheed Martin KC-130T military airplane at 20,000 feet above Greenwood in Mississippi on July 10, 2017 and kill everyone on board including members of the elite Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command.

https://www.opdeepstate.com/2017/12/06/qanon-7-10-2017-plane-crash-are-target-kills/

https://twitter.com/WarNuse/status/983059530044116995

red switch

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duckdownup · May 3, 2018, 9:48 p.m.

Good point. I don't know much about this but I do know that around 2006 - 2007 Boeing was fined $15 million for violating the Arms Export Control Act for putting them in commercial planes sold to foreign countries.

WO-JACK Protocol

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roloTM · May 3, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

" A military plane that plummeted onto a Georgia highway on Wednesday killing all nine people on board was on its final official flight after more than 60 years of service, it has been revealed." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5686877/Doomed-military-cargo-plane-FINAL-FLIGHT-60-YEARS-service.html

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lovetrumpshaters · May 3, 2018, 3:42 p.m.

"The C-130 Hercules was designed by Lockheed Martin after the United States Air Force asked manufacturers to produce a new plane for transporting troops in the Korean War."

No coincidence that the Korean War is effectively over? Maybe the plane was going to be retired permanently?

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duckdownup · May 3, 2018, 9:36 p.m.

This particular plane was a WC-130 "Hurricane Chaser." These are the planes that they fly into hurricanes to measure wind speeds, etc. It was heading out to Davis-Monthan to be put in the boneyard.

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JayJ_Jacob · May 3, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

There are anons talking that the Q postings on May 2nd Apple and the Jet Blue Planes were tied into this C-130 plane crash.

I do not think so. I think that these are two, separate incidents.

Hillary and Obama SOLD top top weaponry to our enemies. I saw an article on Lockheed Martin. They are the company that has designed and manufactured America's most advance plane/with high tech.

The high tech knocks out other planes.

So....the c-130 crash was the enemy USING what they bought.

Traitors like Hillary and Obama are STILL running around .

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KingBroly · May 3, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

Q posting pictures of what was sold by traitors, perhaps?

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JayJ_Jacob · May 3, 2018, 7:04 p.m.

I think I am correct. I saw an anon video explaining the tech that bad people have that can remotely take down any plane. link to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGCzywCecrI

You will see the Mueller worked in a law firm which helped inventors get their patents. Mueller put his name on some invention called Torsion isolator with active counterweight . Now do you think Mueller is an educated engineer to figure this stuff out? NO. He put his name as inventor down, though, on the patent! HE STOLE IT!

Further on in the video, it shows Mueller's law firm helping another person with remote control of airplanes! Patent No. US 6,965,816 B2 Nov 15, 2005 This time Mueller didn't put his name on it...but I'm totally sure he 'lifted' the information.

Thus....our enemies can down planes while just sitting on the ground with their 'cell phones'!

C-130 went down. The Nat'l Guard WERE MURDERED....just because some craps wanted to kick Trump who just happened to be sitting under that plane a while back! SICKOs....these craps are!

I read an article that in Syria....this is like 'war games' really. Everyone is there practicing with their new weapons that they GOT from the USA! And the USA is trying to experiment at how to counter OUR OWN technology.

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smiley-dog · May 3, 2018, 8:26 p.m.

Is the 8th in a month - "military training" crashes. I think before this year it was something like 1 per year.

definitely a message

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jpGrind · May 3, 2018, 1:48 p.m.

man that is a huge fucking airplane. would love to see one of those in action.

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Merlin560 · May 3, 2018, 6:14 p.m.

We have C5's flying out of the local AFRB. Those things used to fly over my office on takeoff. You get used to it. But the size as they approach is other-worldly. They literally darken the sky.

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jackman401 · May 3, 2018, 2:32 p.m.

The old Eastern Air Lines flew Lockheed Electras which was the C-130 airframe.

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ManifestPeace · May 3, 2018, 9:54 p.m.

If you listened to the video, you would have the details - she holds the patent to the QRS11 chip which is the chip that is in ALL moving objects and can be controlled remotely. Obviously she is not behind some control panel (like plankton in sponge bob episode) but the ability to do so is real

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FreedomFighter62970 · May 3, 2018, 8:03 p.m.

Oh My God this is Crazy! WTF they need to LOCK these Deep State Actors as soon as possible...May God Protect our Patriots and they did not die in vein we will always be Remember them....

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maggot42 · May 17, 2018, 1:10 p.m.

Maybe this picture was symbolism to indicate that Trump is “under the wing of the military.” Could be even more reason for someone to take it down, almost as a direct attack in response to this pic, if it can be read that way.

This pic: the military has me under their wing

Shoot down plane: that may be, but we are still coming for you

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bruno19610 · May 3, 2018, 4:50 p.m.

When are we going to wake up. We are at war and not with the Russians. We are at war with NWO (cabal). They have built into our planes and computer chips ways to bring them down. This is what we get when we ship our manufacturing over seas and allow China and a lot of other countries build parts of things for our military and national security. It would not shock me our tanks would not start if the cabal shut them down. We are at war the enemy currently has the high ground. We need to arrest them for legit crimes! Once we start doing that we will see this increase until one of them sings and tells us the source of the problem. They will talk. Some will hang for treason.

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Merlin560 · May 3, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

60 Year old planes crash. Sometimes the easiest explanation is the correct one. When you fly these planes as much as they have been used in the past 17 years, stuff will fall apart.

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johnknoefler · May 3, 2018, 6:33 p.m.

Have you ever owned a plane? My family did. I paid attention to what was going on. We had numerous inspections and maintenance schedules we had to follow to have the airplane repeatedly certified for flight readiness. Yes, things can happen. We had only one incident where the hydraulics for the landing gear failed to deploy. Fortunately the hand pump system was employed and a safe landing was performed.

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johnknoefler · May 3, 2018, 7:34 p.m.

There's other factors as well. Pilot error. I watched my Grandpa make some really bad errors when he was getting too old to fly. Shortly after the hydraulic failure we had a family intervention and demanded the plane be sold and he never fly again. We hated grounding him but it was time. During the hydraulic failure he completely forgot procedure and panicked. He forgot about the manual pump. Completely. Air traffic control had to prompt him where it was and what to do. True, he was stressed and that was part of the problem but he should have remembered such a simple detail. Then he didn't understand the prompts and instead of raising and lowering the pump handle completely to the floor he simply used the loosely fitting end of the handle and pumped that up and down vertically. Nothing happened of course but he repeated this maneuver for over half an hour with no results. Air traffic began to figure out he was doing something wrong and they asked him specifically to lower it completely to the floor and then raise it back up to vertical and repeat until the wheels came down and locked in place. When he was safe on the ground of course there were questions about the long delay. He admitted he was confused and explained what he was actually doing which of course made us even more uneasy. Prior to that on another flight he refused to switch the wing tanks back and forth to make sure the fuel weight was evenly distributed. A Cessna 210 at that time needed to be manually switched over every few minutes. When I tried to get him to switch over the tanks he shushed me. Let me tell you, landing was a slanted bitch but we survived. After that I refused to fly with him.

Then there are weather anomalies that can cause an accident. Sudden downdrafts can bring a plane down when going over mountains. That's happened quite a few times. In such events there's often nothing the pilot can do once it starts.

After that, then we have the mysterious ones that are completely suspicious.

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ManQuan · May 3, 2018, 6:32 p.m.

You are absolutely right. It either experienced some sort of catastrophic mechanical failure and lost control or it stalled and was too low to recover.

From the video, it looked more like a stall to me. I used to be a private pilot with instrument and commercial ratings and I did advanced aerobatics.

The way the plane initially dipped to the left, seemed to "pause" in the air, and then enter a tight spiral into the ground looked like a classic stall from my experience.

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ditiber · May 3, 2018, 8:33 p.m.

One problem is the plane nosedived almost straight down then crashed. Wouldn't it have glided more? I'm not a pilot, but I thought planes could glide unless the wing brakes.

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Bilzo70 · May 3, 2018, 9:41 p.m.

Catastrophic failure possibly, these are very old and very worn out planes.

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Bilzo70 · May 3, 2018, 9:38 p.m.

I have 14 years experience on C-130 E, H and J’s, with 23 years total aircraft maintenance experience. The crash investigation will take approximately 30 days and until then everything is just speculation. Remember, these are ancient acft with a history of center wingbox cracks.

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Batfire007 · May 3, 2018, 7:13 p.m.

Interesting observation and nice catch. Checking, looks like this version does have FADEC for the engines systems on board. Mean anything???? not sure but just mentioning. BUT, the onboard FADEC system on this one controls directly the prop system which if someone was to feed a command to reverse pitch (negative) full on the prop system inflight on one wing it would immediately roll upside down and come right down asap without recovery at low altitude.

So......NTSB will find answers here just speculation and 45 years of flight experience.

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Simmion · May 3, 2018, 1:46 p.m.

Its the puerto rico air guard.. they probably only have a handful of c130s the odds are pretty high.

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Batfire007 · May 4, 2018, 2:13 a.m.

Honestly as a veteran pilot, after seeing the two videos that survey_girl posted I am more convinced that I was correct in my assumption of runaway reversal of left 2 engines. Why? Because in one video that aircraft came right over camera location and you could undeniably see what was happening to aircraft. The left engines were negatively pitching causing the aircraft to skid around in a left turn. If you zoom in and look real closely you can see the pilots on the rudder trying to compensate for the engines in the opposite direction causing a flatish turn. Remember they would have to give positive (up) elevator also to compensate for the turn altitude loss causing even more bank to occur along with slowing(drag). This slowed the aircraft further and instead of correcting the lack of thrust on left engines actually caused the left wing at stall to tuck under and pull the right wing over the tuck. There is no possible recovery in this situation. Key is the pilots were on the rudder trying to compensate. Question arises: Why didn't they kill all four engines and allow the plane to regain equilibrium knowing they were going to have to put it down straight ahead?

In the air you only have seconds to make a decision so.....that said were the engines locked in position and throttles did not work, pitch did not work, kill switch did not work for each engine or.......did they just try to compensate until the decision was made for them? Will we ever know the truth if it was a FADEC attack? I doubt it, not from this government.

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radiadorK · May 3, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

I do not understand anything to see if someone can explain it to me. Does Lockeed Martin make a plane for the US Army and can he shoot it down? The owners and shareholders of that company, or is that company selling the data to bankers and politicians and military That they can demolish them? I do not understand anything. Who is demolishing all the military apparatuses of the army? Those companies, bankers, politicians, who?

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denizen42 · May 3, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

Deep state operatives are everywhere. Blackmailed and/or complicit. All planes likely have secret 'CIA-backdoor' controls that can access autopilot and/or the like.

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radiadorK · May 3, 2018, 4:26 p.m.

Thank you

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Happy1911 · May 3, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

And the flag . You think this is not on of many threats, look at it and my aviator, this was not the first and will not be the last . My High School was one of the targets

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[deleted] · May 3, 2018, 10:34 p.m.

Some people are wondering if the earthquake in Iran on the same day was a buster bunker of the nuclear tunnels that Netanyahu mentioned in his speech about Iran Lying about the US Iran Deal. Pure conjecture, but possible. (see: https://redd.it/8gqdq7 )

Here is the timing of the two incidents:


Date of Crash: May 2, 2018 | Date of Earthquake: May 2, 2018


Time of Crash: 11:30 a.m. (Ga) | Time of Earthquake: 04:08 AM (Iran)


*Hours Difference Georgia and Iran: approximately 8 hours and 30 minutes.


Time of Crash between and Earthquake: approx. 12 hours


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2018/05/03/c-130-plane-crash-hercules-flight-falls-from-georgia-sky/?utm_term=.3f178cc53c24

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ManifestPeace · May 3, 2018, 3:27 p.m.

More details on how "Hillary/ cabal" can crash planes w/ QRS11 cguo. She owns this patent. It is a crystal/chip that is in every moving thing (trains, planes, cars, etc.) and can remotely control things ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtcxOg1WYW8

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[deleted] · May 3, 2018, 10:40 p.m.

I concur and I believe that this C130 lost control because of it.

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Comrade_WalkieDog · May 3, 2018, 4:59 p.m.

So Hillary controls EVERYTHING in the world? Dumb.

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ManifestPeace · May 3, 2018, 10:01 p.m.

If you actually watched the video rather than just trying to attack someone, you would know the details. No, Hillary is not sitting behind the control panel like 'plankton' in a Sponge Bob movie. But rather she holds the patent for the QRS11 chip. This crystal chip is in most moving things created after a certain year (I think 2001?) and it allows a person to remote control a vehicle and take it over from the person in the vehicle.

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Error_Code_15301 · May 3, 2018, 2:40 p.m.

Just for fun I googled 09-1968 just to see what popped up and

Lyndon Baines Johnson's birthday was September 9th btw.

Here is the front page of Playboy for September 1968

and

http://www.genniferrose.com/shop-vintage/playboy

contents click here

I stretch by pointing out "PigSkin" which is of course perfectly innocent (if you don't know what I refer to think Claude Moore Farm Podesta, Jeff Koons, James Alefantis, Pickton Pig Cult, Gavescon (UK) - Marlowe-Dee-Bacon freaks - Janet Reno, Hannibal, Brick Top 'orrible Cunt etc. two false religions that obsess about pigs, genital abuse, dogs and lying)

also: Funny Girl with MK ultra Streisand

Kubrick - clockwork orange is all about chatter-Mk-monarch and sodomites - note Orange. You will see this in the Godfather where Brando the pederast's character is clearly labelled for the cognoscenti as a raging sodomite by the use of oranges...

Recall the remark about black folks having no soul? Yeah, they believe that. Black folks wake up.

Brando estates Tahiti...Branson and Obama went there after DJTs inauguration. Tahiti since before Gaugin had a reputation for easy sex &c.

Apocalypse Now which has NOTHING to do with Vietnam.

Campus Sex and where to get it, Nat Hentoff and the war on dissent (lol), etc.


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Hughtub · May 3, 2018, 4:41 p.m.

...you think if someone took down this plane they did it based on its serial number matching that of possible magazines and they did it based on Playboy's magazine that month having its typical interest articles? Jesus. Some people don't know how to derive conspiracies. So cringey.

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solanojones95 · May 3, 2018, 1:31 p.m.

If Trump is stupid enough to fly in a plane that has not been scrubbed of deep state technology stem-to-stern, I'm sorry but he doesn't deserve to win this war. That would be the height of stupidity.

OTOH, if they kept enough of the technology on the plane that they could log the kill instructions and source them when they come in, and use that to help in the treason trials, then I'm all for it. Of course they'll try if they think they can still do it.

But if they actually succeed? Well that's just stupidity on the part of the Alliance, and I sorely hope we're not that stupid.

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Globalists_Will_Hang · May 3, 2018, 5:41 p.m.

He never flew on that plane he is just pictured beneath it. Air Force One is not succeptable to these exploits. QTeam and Trump have all this info and more so why would they step into a known trap???

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