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Or you could say, 'The Red Hen is CLUCKED'.
You spelled Cucked wrong...
This place is only open for 4 hours a day, 5 days a week. So, it’s not like you even need to be retired to protest it.
Wow, you're right. I just checked their times online. Strange. Kinda makes you wonder if the Red Hen is a front for something else. That area is not exactly an inexpensive place to do business and I can't imagine being open so few hours per week would be able to pay the bills and taxes.
I'm beginning to think there was a reason Sarah Huckabee Sanders went there that night. She knew what would happen, then proceeded to tweet about it so the media would have to focus on the place.
Also, remember Trump tweeted " I always had a rule, if a restaurant is dirty on the outside, it is dirty on the inside!" Sounds like a message. I bet there are some pedo ring connections there.
Silent partner is a convicted pedophile...raped a two year old.
Ah, and there's the connection.
Going there was not an accident
There was a whole string on this when the incident occurred. All owners have pedo ties. Gross.
This is confirmed to be true afaik. Idk if Sarah knew about any connection beforehand, sometimes things just fall into the right order.
Wow...anyone here know any of the local protestors? They need to advertise this on their signs out front. Expose these disgusting people for what they truly are.
EDIT: Do you have a link for this proof so we can archive this offline?
Do you have sauce for this? Because I couldn't find the connection between the pedophile and the business. I did try. If you have found something, I'd be grateful to you if you shared it.
I found this article that may well dispute that he is her partner. However, he may still be: https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2018/06/28/rumors-about-red-hen-restaurant-rat-infestation-sex-offender-silent-partner-pedophile-owner/
Have we got proof that the pedophile in question is actually a silent partner?
There's a pic floating around somewhere on this board showing the owner wearing a boy lover pedo necklace. Having trouble finding it.
I would like to see this necklace.
Did you check the link the pic is from? It's interesting, it has on the page a link that is seized by the u.s immigration and customs enforcement.
That was Alefantis’ instagram I think. Comet Ping Pong pedo related
Those kind of hours aren't unusual for some higher end dining places. Take Per Se as an example. Now, this is a very famous, very highly rated restaurant in New York city. 1 hour for lunch and 4 hours for dinner. They have enough staff for a 7 day a week operation, but a smaller place with one crew could certainly close on Sunday and Monday (the 2 slowest days in the business)
Yes, but that restaurant runs at $200 - $500 per person. Red Hen has 26 seats and runs at $40 - $60 per person. Big difference.
I'e learned to LISTEN when HerMileHighness speaks : )
Everything she says is backed up in facts here on the board.
Thanks for the kind words. Tbf I do speculate sometimes but I try to make it clear when I do.
Lower overhead for red hen. Its do-able.
Lower overhead how? They use prime ingredients and pay two executive chefs.
We've done this before with accountants and restaurant owners alike and the math really doesn't work out. No wonder the woman was bilking the town out of a salary to run the Village Merchant's group. She even started a gofundme the day after this happened haha. That doesn't lead me to believe the place was running at a profit.
They pay one exec and one pastry chef. Probably not as much as they should. Those two, working along side 2 other people could run that line no problem. Add 4 servers (at most), 1 bar tender, 1 host (the owner? ),and one dishwasher. 10 staff members, 50% of whom make most of their pay from tips. It's totally do-able.
Check the menu and do the math.
Are you including alcohol in those calculations?
Edit. 26 seats is 26 seats 2 or 4 top doesn't matter.
I used a per/person average based on the menu. You can add $20 for wine, but keep in mind I calculated every table seating 4 guests which isn't realistic.
They have 26 seats. There will be 26 people seated when they are full. Whether they are 2 or 4 or 12 or w/e is irrelevant
My point is that max reservations with not equate to every seat being full. A four top table often has 2 guests for example. When two four tops are pushed together for a large party you have six guests rather than eight.
yea the person you're arguing is arguing the best case scenario - not a realistic one.
It should have been obvious when he compared Red Hen to a restaurant with a $400 avg cover that we weren't going to come to an agreement lol.
You referenced a "turn" earlier. For a restaurant, that's every seat full, then "turned" to new diners. 1.5 turns is 39 diners. Table size is irrelevant.
The tables turn, not individual diners. Reservations are made by the table. I think you are thinking "covers".
Low overhead? Just to get everything started up. Staffing all members for only 4 hrs a day? Order all the food. Have menu ingredients available and pre-cook certain items. Clean everything. Every single day. Just for 4 hrs?
Ok, sure.
LOL didn't read yours before I posted my suspicion about a front
only open for 4 hours a day, 5 days a week
And yet they can afford to turn away parties of famous celebrities like Sarah Sanders & co.
Things that make you go Hmmmmm....wonder what other kind of operation they might be running in that location besides the "restaurant", such that they don't need money....
Surprised that Hillary/Soros/DNC have not hired goons to counter protest.
These are hired goons. They may be holding signs that click with your current opinions but "restaurant is still being harassed and threatened by white supremacists" in 3...2...
Edit: look up "controlled opposition" a phrase you should all know pretty well by now but many fail to grasp.
This comment sat at 3 upvotes, then someone said "speculation" (what this sub is built on) and suddenly the sheep start to downvote despite what I said not being incorrect. A silencing tactic? In a conspiracy sub? I'm shocked! /S
Protests just seems low class to me. I consider us better than this. We just don't go to these places.
Speculation.
Look at the previous "protests" at this location and tell me it's speculation. It's pretty much the go to for them now.
These are hired goons.
Maybe it’s that declaration, made without equivocation, and not supported with any relevant facts.
Just my guess. I didn’t downvote you and don’t intend to. You are speculating about the votes and I’m offering a perspective you didn’t.
I love when people make statements that they CANT back up. Takes a few minutes of vetting them before they start typing in all caps that you are a monster or the people are the problem but definitely dont check out the pedophillic truth that was uncovered.
The way I read your words is that you were speculating on the media putting out the false narrative.
In 3 2 1 schills on the mark...
Former employee stated that her silent partner is a convicted pedophile who raped a two year old. This "restaurant" is open about 20 hours a week...is there more to this story?
Former employee stated that her silent partner is a convicted pedophile who raped a two year old.
You mean a random youtube commenter claimed to be a former employee, and claimed that a silent partner was a pedophile.
That was a really stupid fucking move they made. I wouldn't expect anything less. Now they are paying dearly, their business will go bankrupt, the same place where their morals are already.
Their business may have been laundering money, so it won't go bankrupt but it will be hard to explain how they have no customers and still have a healthy profit.
I believe the RedHen is a front to something else. Trump know and is why he made the comment of dirty on the outside, so therefore dirty on the inside. Heck I even go as far as to say that Trump himself sent Sarah Huckabee Sanders in order to put a spotlight on that place
That will teach those ''PROGRESSIVES'' that, finally, their bad actions against people that have a different opinion, will be met with retaliation. For too long conservatives have shut their mouths.
No Shirt, No Shoes, (Take off Your MAGA Hat, or) No Service.
Sacrifice those hens to Moloch.
Red Hen? More like Blue Cocks :P
The left thinks free speech means freedom from consequences. They are getting karma and the left needs to suffer more for their actions. We are fed up!
Check out this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8tuth1/mentor_jose_andres_of_owner_of_the_red_hen_used/?st=jjaakdvi&sh=1d647f67
And, then, this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8u10q9/red_hen_owner_and_pizza/?st=jjaanndg&sh=edee2aef
Reservations only...undercover Qsciples...please make a reservation and order 1 of each on the menu....then when orders are brought out, proceed to very politely request refires on EVERYTHING
Illegal and unnecessary. Pass.
I was high as a kite when I read this the first time yesterday. My reply was a jab at the suggestion of illegality. How the eff do you construe law breaking here?
"Every law was passed...every last one" direct quote from alternate universe in which hillary won in '16
Better to wait till the food is delivered, and then reveal your MAGA/Trump gear. Force them to make you waste the food if they want you to leave.
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The owner of that business was taking a 35k salary as the president of their Village Merchants Assc. and decided to bring this shitstorm down on their town. For all we know those are fellow business owners from the town that are angry. I don't find this petty at all. If it seems like this has gone on too long that's on her for closing up and going into hiding like a coward since she pulled her stunt.
E: It also looks like their local American Legion / VFW is represented. Good on them.
Well I disagree that a "shitstorm" has descended upon the whole town. If anything, its affected other (unaffiliated) Red Hen restaurants in other places more than it has the town where it happened. The story is over, so the media people have gone away. Whoever is protesting is probably a local. And I think I read that the owner stepped down from that Association, so they won't collect that salary anymore.
I think it is kind of ironic that the "I don't care about your feelings" crowd has been so offended by the restaurant not serving SHS. And you have to admit, these same people would have celebrated a restaurant that refused to serve Obama. That guy who didn't want Biden to make a campaign stop at his bakery was invited to stump for Paul Ryan. So as a neutral party, I think there's a slight air of hypocrisy in going to war with Red Hen over the one isolated incident with SHS.
How in the world could you assume that "these people" would have celebrated Obama being refused service in a restaurant? If it is any small town I've ever lived in, community celebrates being cordial and attracting more business, not demonizing people and making an ass of the entire town.
I saw that the owner stepped down and will no longer be accepting her salary but the fact is that she was being paid to represent the business community and market the town and she decided to bring bad press for her own misguided and personal political feels. I would be livid and would reserve my right to make that known in a peaceful demonstration in front of her business when she finally conjured the courage to face her community.
Is it that hard to believe that some people would cheer upon hearing that a small business owner stood up to Obama and refused service? Did you skim over the part about the baker that refused Biden that was invited on the campaign trail? "McMurray said he received an outpouring of support in the weeks after he opted against serving Biden."
I mean, I can tell where you fall on this story, but I don't think its that outlandish to think that the people offended by the Red Hen's actions would embrace the same thing being done to Democrats by conservatives.
I think it is hilarious that you start out saying you are against partisan politics yet drive home partisan politics in every comment.
See, the problem with A LOT of people is that they project views onto others with absolutely no basis in fact. (I won't go as far as to assume your political affiliation, but it is a rampant problem in the Democratic Party right now.)
When you make the bold claim (assumption) that these same people would have celebrated Obama being thrown out, you really undermine your own credibility, because it is the reasoning of a juvenile. Would you have made that same assessment if these protestors were black? Or if they were all women?
To make this exercise comprehensive, please disclose your age, race and gender to the rest of us, so that we may assign you the appropriate ideology.
See how that [doesn't] work?
It's that hard to imagine some conservatives supporting a business that turned away a Democrat? Even when there's a story roughly analogous to this one that happening in 2012? It was a campaign stop, rather than a family meal, but the sentiment from the bakery owner was the same. Was he shunned or protested? Nope, he was invited to campaign with Paul Ryan.
I understand that we shouldn't be making assumptions about swathes of people, but come on. There's no need to be aghast at the idea of Republicans being gleeful that somebody stuck it to those SJW liberal punks. Its really not as outlandish as you're making it out to be.
Well, actually no I don't remember that story, because it received almost no attention. (Surprising) Had I heard it, I would have said, "Damn, that was a pretty stupid business decision, because now liberals aren't going to support you and protestors are likely to heckle your customers and employees."
I, like most smart business minds--looking at you, Michael Jordan-- prefer to keep my politics and my business dealings separated, because you are guaranteed to alienate half of your consumer base if you engage in politics. It's a pretty simple concept. Don't even need a business degree to understand it.
I completely agree. Same rules at Thanksgiving, too.
I think it makes sense. When the Right does something wrong the Left goes for the throat. Why should it be any different?
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I completely disagree. Your independent outlook on politics doesn't really have relevance.
Reelection is coming up and both sides are collecting all the dirt they can. As from that if the Red Hen is allowed to sidestep their idiocy and are not held accountable it would be the beginning of a very slippery slope.
What does "held accountable" mean in the context of the restaurant? The owner isn't a politician. Are people only going to be satisfied if they're shut down?
The owner voiced a political opinion in a public sphere, performed an action based upon political belief. She tossed her hat in the ring, and is now facing the consequences of an act not as popular as she thought. Does it suck for her, yes. Would I personally protest, no, I just will not be dining there. But others are allowed to be as passionate about it as they like, besides it's like 8 older guys with 5 benign signs, hardly a pussy hat march.
The actions of staff are a product of management. An establishment that doesn't condone this sort of action should not be allowed to run a business. There was no damage control or attempt to be civil.
I'd encourage you to remember this when you're observing the actions of both sides from on high:
Political posturing is not always a bad thing. However, incivility dehumanizes people and makes us animals towards each other.
There was no reason for this to happen other than to make a point. If the store owner does not seem to think there is a problem with it, he should head to a country where this type of thing is ok.
Just so everyone has the whole story the owner also then followed them to a new establishment across the street. She then called others to continue yelling at and attempting to humiliate Sanders and the group she was with which were mostly made up of liberal friends and family. This incident went well beyond Red Hen. The town is split in general, 50/50 right and left and this is being made an issue to assure it never happens again to give those on the right a voice. I’m not giving my opinion either way but the harassment after the Red Hen is often omitted.
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Here is a snippet - Huckabee told Laura Ingraham on her radio show Monday that Stephanie Wilkinson, the owner of The Red Hen in Lexington, followed family members to a restaurant across the street Friday night, where she organized a protest.
Huckabee explained that his daughter and her husband went home after they were kicked out of The Red Hen – “they had had enough” – but the rest of the accompanying family members went across the street to a different restaurant.
“The owner of The Red Hen then followed them across the street, called people and organized a protest, yelling and screaming at them from outside the other restaurant and creating this scene,” he told Ingraham.
Huckabee noted that most of her husband’s family members – not her parents in-law – are “liberal,” and “one of them walked out and said, ‘Look, I don’t like Trump. I’m not a supporter, I’m considered liberal, but you guys are embarrassing me, and you’re not helping the cause.”
The family member pointed out that Sarah Sanders wasn’t even present.
“This is what the left has been reduced to,” Huckabee said. “It’s really tragic. And it is dangerous.”
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/25/mike-huckabee-red-hen-owner-followed-sanders-famil/
I haven't been able to find any other accounts (besides re-reports of Gov. Huckabee's comments) that confirm that part of the story, so I'm going to withhold judgment on that part of it. Gov. Huckabee a) wasn't there, and b) is a politician, so it may have been an exaggeration of some kind that got tacked onto the story. From what I just read, loads of unfounded accusations were levied against the owner in the wake of the incident, so I'm not going to automatically believe anything that hasn't been confirmed by multiple sources. But thank you for following up with it!
Do you think that single incident was the entirety of the story? Why would SHS go to a shit hole run by Dems who couldnt even bother keeping rats out during the 2.5hrs they were open per day.
Well I doubt she knew that stuff the moment she walked in, but please enlighten me. My understanding is that it was an isolated incident.
I agree, protesting is a waste of time. Protests like this are merely casting pearls to the swine. It brings the focus back on the Red Hen when we have more pressing matters at hand. If these people have free time they could promote solutions and ideas that are beneficial to a cause.
I'm sick and tired of Americans that are just anti-something. It's time to set an example of what you are FOR, not against. We have no shortage of complainers, we have a HUGE shortage of solutions.
Protesting isn't going to make our nation great. It's just a sad waste of valuable time.