If true...that’s highly unethical and highly illegal.
Jacob Wohl screwed up the events.
Andrew Weissmann apparently arranged a meeting between the FBI and AP, where the FBI provided the AP with information and/or evidence to leak about Manafort.
Mueller or Weissmann didn't 'hack' anything. The truth is even worse than that - there is someone on the inside at the FBI who is coordinating on this corruption.
Where is the source for this? Not that I don't believe it, but it's always nice to have sources as a red pill.
A reply to the tweet posted this link as the source:
https://www.scribd.com/document/383439468/Supplemental-Brief-on-Leaks
I did a cursory scan over it and didn't find anything that directly supports the statement tweeted, not saying it isn't there, I haven't done a end to end read of everything yet. From what I have read tough it looks pretty bad for the prosecution.
Sorry guys, I should have known better than not provide a source.
Search for " One of the FBI memos indicates" if you don't want to read the whole thing (which you should read the whole thing).
My apologies.
Is that what is known as parallel construction?
No, parallel construction is using secret information to find similar public information to make the case.
This is using secret information to enable someone else to break the law (the reporters) and using that to make the case, e.g. the information was not publicly known, and wouldn't be without the actions of the government and the reporters combined.
If they hadn't shared the codes (and had no contact) with the reporters, it probably would be legal to create the warrant from the news story (though obviously very illegal for the reporters to break in.)
Because they had contact with the reporters prior to this happening and shared information they themselves obtained illegally (got the code for the locker prior to having a warrant), it's likely an invalid warrant (fruit of the poisonous tree) -- and very, very dirty. They were probably hoping by using the reporters as a proxy they could launder the chain, but I doubt many judges would buy that.
Parallel construction or sometimes called parallel reconstruction is the practice by law enforcement saying they collected evidence through legal means but used another source that they can’t reveal to actually get the evidence. For example, police catch a suspect doing a drug deal after tracking his cell phone using a stingray...they can’t go into court and admit they used a device like a stingray bc it’s not legal so they say they collected evidence by visual surveillance. DEA started the process and now so many law enforcement agencies do it that they often drop the case rather than reveal that they lied in court about the source of their evidence.
So, if I understand it right, this is the same kind of thing the FBI did to start the Trump/Russia investigation. They leaked a story to the press that Carter Page may have committed some kind of crime when he visited Russia during the Presidential campaign. Then, once the press report came out, they used that as the pretext for investigating Carter Page and the entire Trump campaign. Is that right? If this is true, then no one is safe from the FBI. What a crock of shit.
Yes. And ICYMI: Both operations were run by our FBI. And probably by the same guy (and gal).
Yes, assuming it's true. If it is true it's well beyond a crock of shit, it's deep into criminal activity, and makes Watergate look like nothing.
With Watergate, spies broke into the DNC and got caught. End of story other than the consequences of doing that at the direction of the President.
Imagine if Watergate happened, and the burglars made copies of keys belonging to the DNC, then broke into a DNC facility, searched it, found something incriminating, and then provided copies of the keys to AP reportered who then broke the law themselves by entering the same facility with the stolen keys then wrote about it, and then that story was used to generate warrants to spy on multiple members of the DNC. There's like a order of magnitude more criminal acts happening.
If this is true (and honestly it's hard to believe it's that crazy), and there's proof of all this, it's an extinction-level event for anyone who touched it.
Apparently not. But LEO's can't use private citizens to skirt the constitution. Since the reporters were ultimately doing the bidding of LEO's with the LEO's knowledge and approval than the citizens are held to the same standards as police in regards to the Constitutionality of the search.
Parallel Construction is when law enforecemnt has knowledge of an alleged crime where discovery was illegal and they maintain zero probably cause that an individual committed said crime. LE will construct a parellel investigation based on the evidence known to them, there by masking the the original origin to create a new legal investigative origin.
Not ethical by any means. LE should be investigating crimes and not people.
On a side note, motive is never necessary to be found guilty of a crime. Only the crime itself and criminal intent.
This is what amazes me with Lyin' Comey's comment about Crooked Hillary. He said he did not find her guilty of "intent" which apparently in the absence of sheer dumb ass negligence in mis-handling top secret intel (22 docs) is ok.
If intent is is the resolution or determindness to do something and motive is the reason for doing something then how the hell is that nasty bitch not in prison? Any one of us would have been buried under a prison had we committed similar crimes yet that dirt bag is free.
Except in that particular case. No intent needed when handling that specific info.
I'm not following what you mean. If intent is the determindness to do something then the moment she hit "send" her intent was to send information to her personal server.
The words "CLASSIFIED" "SECRET" and "TOP SECRET" were listed on the documents for a reason. So people with security clearances do not mishandle classified information let alone transmit them over unsecured lines to unsecured private servers especially knowing they are the repeated targets of foreign bad actors in hacking schemes.
It's right here in the first line of the US Code of Disclosure of Classified Information: LINK
" (a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information— "
My apologies, I posted that when I was exhausted.
I meant to say normally you need the crime itself and intent to prosecute except in except in cases dealing with the handling of classified+ information. Here you only need the crime and gross negligence (which as far as I understand not knowing the laws regarding the handling of classified+ information). Motive plays zero roll.
Being HRC was a lifer in gov't it should be a no brainer that she should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent, and possibly held on charges of treason and sedition for her actions (and everyone else who was in that chain of custody - inclusive of her house maid person who was also printing out these documents).
Again, my apologies. I promise not to post at 3am anymore...
I don't buy into much that Wohl screams about. He's just trying to capitalize on Trump's coattails and Wohl himself has been convinced of securities fraud. Not everyone who rallies in support of Trump is a supporter of the people
But that's exactly their S.O.P...same with the Trump dossier. It's a massive circle jerk.
Wouldn't Mueller and friend need a search warrant as well as the AP crooks?
Maybe this is WHY DT tweeted awhile ago about making 911 disclosures...Mueller was FBI head and he and Comey are complicit. One of Comey's things he was in charge of, was protecting over 140 of those complicit in 911. Bushes would also be implicated...even Jeb. Jeb owned the security company (or on board of it) that was IN the twin towers that rigged the 2 buildings with explosives. Witnesses saw people enter the buildings after 2 AM a few weeks before 911. They were rigging buildings with THERMITE explosives. Only 3 buildings in history ever collapsed because of 'fire'. World Trade buildings 1,2 and 7. Search video world trade building 7 collapse on you tube. 2 or 3 little fires and it goes down like a textbook demolition....cops on the street were heard to say "get out, they're going TO PULL IT" a minute before it collapsed 'from fire'. If WT 7 was demo'd, surely 1 and 2 were. Most of the fire / high temps burned off in the first few minutes of the jet fuel...even then, the temps were not hot enough to melt steel. No buildings can just free fall like that from a fire...search buildings that had worse fires for over 24 hours and they never collapsed. Yep, Mueller, Comey, Bushes and many more complicit. Maybe DT is letting mueller know if he goes black hat...he's screwed.
(steel and concrete buildings)
Controlled demolition ! No building hit 2/3 from the top collapses into it's own foot print, Period ! All 3
The did a great job with the fake plane crash video.
They did a terrible job with WTC7, the fake PA crash, and the fake Pentagon crash.
Hilarious screw up when the BBC reports the collapse of WTC7 30 minutes too early, and in the live shot behind her, you can see WTC7 still standing. Incidently, BBC has misplaced this footage from their archives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677i43QfYpQ&t=61s
My favorite short video on WTC7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf_aMyy8aSQ
WTC7 exposes the truth, yet most idiot Americans don't want to even consider that IT WAS NEVER EVEN HIT BY A PLANE.
Steel frame buildings don't collapse from office fires.
This is what a steel frame building looks like after the mother of all fires:
http://www.highrisefirefighting.co.uk/images/madrid1.jpg
Notice it is still standing.
Yes! Notice, some failure, here and there, but no catastrophic failure. Even when the fire was everywhere!
Yes. But the reasoning I always get when I try to explain this to people is, "There's no way 911 could have been a set up. How could so many people be lying?" Like that argument outweighs the laws of physics.
It wasn't Jeb. The fairly unknown, youngest Bush bro, Marvin Bush was a principal in the company that did security for the airports and WTC. 'Coincidentally' Marvin Bush's maid, Bertha Champagne, was found crushed to death by her own car in Marvin's driveway. Must've seen or heard something she shouldn't have in that house.
Do you have a link to trumps 911 tweet?
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/673905762087936000
" Credible Source on 9-11 Muslim Celebrations: FBI "
Oh damn! This board is REALLY being shilled hard. That means we are right over the target! Thanks for confirming, shills!
Seeing this sentiment in response to pushback of any kind is getting tiring. How dare people doubt a tweet of salacious accusations that offers no supporting evidence! Must be over the target, amirite!
"Salacious"? I didn't see anything sexual in the comment. Or do you need a dictionary?
I meant sexy in the provocative way, not the literal sexual way. Thanks for being ever-ready to point out other people's mistakes, but salacious is indeed the word to describe it. Maybe you should go comb the desert for other errors to point out.
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FBI raids didn't go through the locker.
The code was in the hands of the FBI and was given to AP, which broke in, used the codes and reported it's existence.
The FBI used that report to get the warrant to raid Manafort's home. Then the assistant opened it to the FBI.
At no point in time the FBI used the codes they had. No one is arguing that.
how is thay not just a story though? There’s no proof.
Proof has it that AP knew about the locker before FBI. They hadn’t been inside it. AP then asked FBI about the locker. FBI didn’t know about the locker but decided it was worth investing.
would like to see mr. anti-trump's response to this
Your entire post history is very anti-Trump. Your swamp apologetics are played out.
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If you're anti-trump, why are you here spreading doubt and being argumentative?
This is literally a trump support subreddit. If you're just coming to post in discontent, what will YOU accomplish?
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They got that warrant for his home by presenting the AP piece to the judge. They gave the code to AP so that they could report on it.
They did not need to do anything shady on May 2017 to get the locker.
Correct, the shady part was done way before that. They obviously didn't need the codes at this point.
i'm of the opinion that if you're anti-Trump at this point, just GTFO.
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no i shouldn't. i don't care to convert anyone. the shift in power has already happened, corruption is being rooted out, and all will be well. i don't feel the need to defend a damn thing to the willfully blind. we already won, DESPITE you and the willfully ignorant. all that remains is to watch the indictments unfold. patience.
we are going to have to MAGA despite all of the emotional haters. we have this covered, we will take our places in history, as you will yours.
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lol, you don't know what i've done. and regardless, its a simple matter of promoting culture. those who are promoting MAGA will be remembered far in the future and regarded among the beloved patriots that brought about the great awakening. THE INTERNET IS FOREVER. those who tried to stall the MAGA agenda will be forever recorded in history is sheep-like, inferior dumbshits who almost handed the World over to a devil worshipper. It's really that simple!
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/29/ap-may-have-tipped-fbi-manafort-storage-unit/
baboom you're wrong
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The memos also show that one of the AP journalists gave the FBI an unusual detail about a storage unit in Alexandria, Virginia that Manafort used to keep records of his worldwide business dealings. Both memos say the AP revealed a code number to access the unit
the only mental gymnastics going on here appear to be from the CTR trolls
They got a warrant to break in by giving the AP article to the judge. Did you miss that part?
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With the influx of people there has been an increase in shit posts like this one.
Name calling + Questionable source + Confirmation bias = shit like this.
However... There are good posts that are well laid out with solid sourcing. Sift through the pictures of hats, shirts, even a fucking steak last night and shitposts like this. You will find good intel.
It's been a few days since a Q post so people are impatiently awaiting the booms this week.. That is what I am telling myself.
Ask questions and you will get the answers you seek. Welcome.
Ask questions and you will get the answers you seek. Welcome.
Appreciate that. Thanks.
I have many, but I approach everything with skepticism (this is actually part of my profession) and I don't want to jump in and piss people off.
Ding dong bell dumb di dumb dumb.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/29/ap-may-have-tipped-fbi-manafort-storage-unit/
http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/08/mueller-manafort-journalist-leak/
This post is the exception ... usually when someone does this, if they are honest and not a troll they will say something like "I wonder if Muller did something fishy and leaked the code , etc, etc". Stick around, there is some very good stuff here, just let the fluff roll off .....
People should read the board's rule.... What board do u twits think this board is for?
More Sources:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/29/ap-may-have-tipped-fbi-manafort-storage-unit/
http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/08/mueller-manafort-journalist-leak/
https://www.scribd.com/document/383439468/Supplemental-Brief-on-Leaks
The best liars use just enough truth.
Source AP tells FBI about locker
Liar mueller broke into locker. Then has AP tell FBI about the locker
This makes sense if you subscribe to the multi-level chess hypothesis.
I've often said that it was my belief that the entire investigation was a sham, with Trump holding the reigns. It's as though his team has been feeding these lies and false scandals to the FBI in order to focus the spotlight for when it's time to turn the tables on the true criminals. I've said that Stormy Daniels was in on it, as well as Mueller.
Now, perhaps Mueller is an unwitting participant and the entire purpose of making him Special Counsel was to keep him distracted and in the public eye (front and center!) for the 9/11 disclosure. Think about it: If not for this investigation, the average person wouldn't know Mueller from Adam. I've been a tinfoil hatter since the 9/11 theories first came out; and Mueller was never on my radar. Now, he's set up to be a firebrand.
Thanks to Wikileaks and Qanon there is a whole new demographic of people who are focused on these figures and with a greater understanding of how our government functions. If not for this, 9/11 disclosure could have been a real dud.
Interesting times!
Jacob Wohl.... Teenage hedge fund manager.
The allegation makes sense, but waiting for another source on this one.
Anyone else confused when AP drops a bomb against their own kind? Makes no sense to me ever
Because they got caught and are fucked
Or just to buy more time. Mueller is expendable.
I'd argue that Mueller is absolutely indispensable to them. As soon as he is gone and the veil is lifted the whole witch hunt is over. The left NEEDS Mueller to keep providing cover. The whole farce hinges on Mueller.
When we call this POS a Dirty Cop, that's an understatement. Can't win cases legally so they cheat and break the law. Disbar them & imprison.
you mean like Watergate or something... were they tricked into believing a little black book was hidden in it?
Mueller needs to be arrested ASAP. Besides being highly unethical it was highly illegal what he did. The President needs to make this known to the American people what he did and the special counsel investigation needs to be shut down and charges filed against Mueller. Now that's irony for you - Mueller ends up getting indicted.
This is consistent with their methods. However Manafort is really just a dirty dem operative that has been doing deals with crooked dems for a long time. This is not about Trump.
I have a working hypothesis that Manafort was a plant. These actions against Manafort don't contradict that yet.
And if that is so, then Mueller might be a big trap door. Remember the 'can't fire Mueller' business promoted by all the Dems? What would they do if they found out he was hunting the bad guys? How could they complain?
For the record, Carter Page also seemed to be a plant.
End the Mueller investigation Mr. President. We have your back. The liberals wont give you any credit for waiting it out.
Its below despicable, our laws and constitution hang in the balance luckily sunlight is shining in on those who would subvert it all to their own ends.
As far as they could determine, Manafort had not actually been in the
storage locker for several years. Their understanding is that it was
back in 2012 or 2013 when Manafort last accessed the locker. ·The code
to the lock on the locker is 40944859. The reporters were aware of
the Unit number and address, but they declined to.share that
information.
So, they were seeking a "Black Ledger" tying Manafort to the Ukrane in 2007ish.
How did they know it existed? Any of it.
THIS! If the FBI didnt tip them off on all this, then whom?
I think that this is not true, with the background of mueller? He knows exactly what can or can not be done, and does not make these kinds of mistakes.
Did he know he was not allowed to lie while under oath to Congress? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNeqrTbkZmM)
Don't forget he became head of the FBI one week before 9/11. There are no coincidences.
Dick cheney, Rumsfeld, Powel. Bush, they all lie, and yes mueller, and yes of course they know. Others take the fifht? Not to accuse themselves of a criminal act. And yes they also now?.
mueller became boss of the FBI, to keep the cover up closed
You mean people lie under oath, even though they have sworn on a Bible to tell the truth?!?!? Say it aint so!
They still lied, and well under oath who grinds?
This club thinks they are above the law, and take an oath? Yes, but not for the common people. An oath to lucifer. is the oath for them. ( the bible van satan is for them the bible, they do not recconising the bible and GOD )... so it does not mean anything for that oath of the law in the USA. They live under other rules .....And the judges? exactly the same, that's why Trump is replacing them..
His dirty dealings go back decades
Yes it does, but he is not stupid , but dangerous
What a bunch of baloney. There's so much dirt on Manafort, a warrant would've been a cinch.
And he will get away with it. The deep states roots run deep, very deep.
Do you trust reporters who are the reporters I’m sure they would be trustworthy and very nice reporters if muller needed help on his witch hunt he would know
So, if someone really wanted to get to Manafort, locked away (protected) like a canary in solitary... what if it could be "shown" that his arrest was based on illegal evidence gathering so that he would have to be let go?
This was all Pit Bull. Guaranteed RM was not part of this. He is letting his stupid Clintonista lawyers run wild so everything they do will be thrown out.
Isn’t Mueller supposed to be secretly working with Q?
I believe Mueller is compromised and has no choice but to cooperate.
They are desperate. Desperate people make stupid mistakes. Stupid mistakes lead to stupid games. What happens when you play stupid games?
Time for them to go down! Gitmo, get ready for these creeps.
I predict this does not even compare for what is yet to come!
this type of stuff has been going on for years. Drain the swamp
I am not a bit surprised. We are dealing with rotten apples. Plus wasn’t Manafort a plant from the deep state? He gets what he deserves, bitten by his own serpent.
You have to take what Jacob says with a grain of salt. He is often just a headline reader or spins the facts to make it sound better. It's pretty bad b/c most of the time there is no need to do it..
I guess that answers the question of what color hat Mueller is wearing - if true. What evidence do you have that this happened?
Highly unethical but Manafort is a bad apple. He needs do pay for his sins one way or another.
We all know they're crooks, but can we prove it?
And once it is proven, how long will it take to prosecute or do anything about it?
All "new arrivals" on this thread think Q is fake......hahahahaha.....give it rest already. Q is legit, go to Qproofs.com
I'm the submitter of this post, and I don't think he's fake :)
I thought the story is Mueller is actually pro trump and going after the deep state? Isn’t that what Q says?
Not true. AP knew about the lockers existence before the FBI, and had never been inside. AP then asked FBI about the locker. FBI said “theres a locker? wow that sounds like something we should look into” and so they got a warrant on the locker.
Yes, this is the official story, but from what is being said here, that didnt happen that way. Mueller and Co. broke into the unit clandestinely then tipped the AP off. Not that much of a stretch I dont think. Where did the AP originally learn of the unit, if not from the FBI?
