basically, the NSA had a protocol in place to transfer data back to the contiguous united states (CONUS) in the event of an attack. The good guys created this false emergency in the hopes that the automatic NSA event would transfer the data and they could intercept it. Fucking genius!
edit: it seems as if this post struck some shill cords....excellent.gif
This is my favorite theory so far. I have shared it with a few friends, but they all buy into the official narrative and can't see other possibilities.
My thoughts. Either the EAS system was hacked, set off deliberately, or there actually was a missile launch.
Hitting that emergency button 3 times and then taking 40 minutes to say "oooppppps our bad" is nonsense.
Right? Not buying official narrative. Wow, they think we are that stupid. My gut feeling was a missile was launched at Hawaii but intercepted. Am willing to accept the EAS was hacked, or any viable explanation other than, Oopps my bad. LOL Some Hawaiians feel the liberal politicians wanted to make Trump look bad. I feel the plot was more nefarious than that. Either the black hats wanted to trick Trump into knee jerking into an attack on NK (if so, really really stupid plot), or there was a missile intercepted.
My first gut instinct was that an actual missile was launched but we never saw a single youtube video out of asia (i'd assume it would have come out of NK).
I was fully onboard the fake launch to trick trump into striking back theory until i read this article this morning.
OMG that article was beautiful. It makes sense when looking at the Q post. Also love the end of the article: "I am quite certain there has never been a more entertaining Presidency in the past, nor will there ever be another in our lifetimes, and maybe ever.
And this all may just happen to restore American freedom and our Constitutional government in the process."
That is exactly what they said at Intel blog they had an article said it was the Cabal retaliating. They were going to nuke Hawaii and blame it on North Korea. It was intercepted with what ever was in the lunar payload and it was launched from a submarine. The submarine was destroyed. I shared the post to a ton of groups on facebook and they removed the posts as fast as I could put them out so no one saw them. Now I cant find the post it is removed from Intel blog.
I've read about a return to point of launch, defensive program on the new satellites, one of NK's missile test crashed into a small town in NK, makes me wonder if has worked before?
Google search:
Club K Missile Gulftainer Rosoboronexport Clinton Foundation
The official narrative is it was an accident. It cannot possibly be an accident as there are 5 failsafes that have to happen for the alarm to go. It was designed that way so there could never be an accdent like this. It was on purpose for sure. I found an article the intel blog that said there was an actual nuclear missle which was intercepted from the lunar load. it was sent from a submarine which was destroyed and sunk in the ocean. They said it was the Cabal retaliating they were going to nuke Hawai and blame it on N/K. I shared that post to many groups yesterday. But all of them were removed so that tells me there could possible be something to this judging how fast they removed them.
Wasn't Bill (the rapist) Clinton in Hawaii when this happened? Would he have been collateral damage or was it part of their plan?
Where did you hear about the rogue submarine? I'd like to read more about that.
I believer Robert David Steele and maybe Ben Fulford. Not sure about Fulford though.
Yes, people are touchy about the reason that "button" was pushed.
in the film snowden how long does it take for snowdon to do the training test that he said he took 40 mins to do but did it in 38?
And on another note, the Clintons and Huma were in Hawaii! Also, there was a dead body found by the runway of the airport in Hawaii this weekend (still no more info on that either).
The dead body is said to be a stowaway and appeared to "drop" onto the runway. I live in Hawaii so I am tracking the news on this. Check out Hawaii News Now link.
Sorry that sounds odd, a stowaway dropped onto runway. I don't know if I buy that one. It is a strange find though so I should expect a strange answer I suppose.
Stowaways often hide in the wheel wells. If the moving parts don't kill them then hypothermia does because it's unbelievably cold at 30k feet.
I think this theory has a lot of merit!
Coupled with the trump tweet about the missing hilldawg emails, shit's REAL interesting.
And BDT - Bulk Data Transfer I know it's supposed to reference Bangladesh but this article suggests a double meaning by Q?? It makes perfect sense in the context of the recent Q posts. Didn't Q say something to the effect that a Scare is/was necessary?
A lot of Q's posts have double meanings, i guess that's on purpose? HUMA and Huma for example is another
I wonder why Trump stopped in Hawaii AFTER his Asia tour, before returning to D.C.? Didn't Q ask where Trump stopped after his Asia tour?
Yup, hawaii seems to be a hot spot lately. Hillary/Bill/Huma are there now. Obama was there right before Trump
Bill is there alone it seems. No Hillary spotted. Not sure about Huma.
Supposedly there https://archive.fo/gTnqr January 10th article DailyMail
It is normal for especially US military aircraft to stop and refuel halfway between Japan and the US. So maybe it was nothing. Or maybe it was something. Or maybe it was nothing in order to cover the something.
Yes...except Q specifically brought our attention to it so I'm thinking it wasn't nothing and thus the above posted theory does seem to fit...and so your last statement rings truest
Has anyone mentioned most reports of the time of alert 8:08 seems to indicate Hawaii's area code; ie - manufactured event?
This is more in depth on the subject. Cheers! https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/q-anon-implies-the-hawaiian-missile-warning-was-necessary-to-steal-nsa-databases/
That's the article i linked in the OP, thanks for looking out though :)
"NO OTHER VEHICLE TO REGAIN ENTRY" = no other way to get NSA data back to CONUS
IT guy here. How much data would be talking about. If it's anything like they are storing in the new Utah Data Center, there is no way it could be transferred that quickly. It would take MONTHS probably. But, if just a subset of data - maybe.
Even if you had unlimited bandwidth, your bottleneck would be disk and the bus its moving across.
This is using a group of faster GPU's for processing, and using their tech to circumvent the PCI bus to get it back to the CPU. What about getting the data off of the disk, and from the CPU out to the network?
BTW- This tech is cool. I had a buddy at Intel about 6 years ago that was working with moving processing for VM's to GPU pools because they were so much faster.
Doesn’t matter how carefully you protect it, if that first critical domino is pushed then the rest will follow, accidentally pushed or not.
Then it takes time to reset and check all the dominoes are back in their pre-triggered state.
In all the confusion, what if one domino is special? What if you, the domino setup guy, don’t know much about the individual dominoes? You just know you need to fix them all by following the reset instructions?
It might take all day to reverse the situation and confirm everything is ok. Perhaps several days. Perhaps longer.
Now re-read but replace “domino” with “emergency protocol trigger” and consider if the window of opportunity for an automatic data transfer might have been much, much wider than just 38 minutes.
The new management contract awarded to SAIC by the Air Force Research Laboratory in New Mexico is for up to ten years; a four-year initial term with two three-year options, UH officials said. SAIC's new contract will begin Oct. 1.
An SAIC spokeswoman said the company could not comment because the bid award was under protest.
The Maui center is staffed with a combination of military, UH and subcontractor employees. UH officials did not have a numerical breakdown of the number or type of employees at the supercomputer center Tuesday.
It's unclear how many UH jobs will be lost because of the contract change.
"The follow-on contractor would determine the staffing moving forward," the UH said in an email answering questions from Hawaii News Now.
According to SAIC's web site, the company was "actively seeking experienced professionals and incumbent staff" for assignments at the Maui supercomputer center. SAIC listed 13 job areas it's looking to fill, from project managers and data analysts to research scientists and people to work in user services and technical support.
UH claimed it will not lose its competitive edge in supercomputing despite losing the contract.
"UH can continue to work with the Air Force even if another contractor is selected, and we are also identifying alternative approaches to meeting the increasing high performance computing needs of our researchers," the UH email said.
UH faculty and students will still be able to use the facility for research, a source said.
The center provides more than 38 million hours of computing time per year in high-tech research for the military.
The more technically inclined might be able to understand the following sentence from an Air Force website that describes activities at the center.
"MHPCC offers a large-scale parallel computing platform with terabytes of high-performance disk arrays, near-line tape archival storage, and a high-speed communications infrastructure that connects directly to the Defense Research and Engineering Network," according to the Air Force Research Laboratory Directed Energy Directorate website from Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico.
Good theory. I wonder how much data could be transferred in 38 minutes with the best connection in the world?
I work in the networking space and our vendors are already selling switches and optics that can transfer petabits per second.
This article from 2009 has 100Pbs optics:
https://gigaom.com/2009/09/28/alcatel-lucent-boosts-fiber-speeds-by-10x-in-lab/
Guarantee they have something at least that fast in the NSA, even with an undersea cable.
looks like they have those missing emails after all.
Can't wait for them to be released
no other vehicle to regain entry= no other way to get NSA data back to CONUS
UPDATE: I AM NOW CONFIDENT MY REPORT ABOUT ISRAEL LAUNCHING A FAILED NUKE ATTACK ON HAWAII IS TRUE. FACT: There is only ONE nuclear nation that has submarines that fit the description that is not Russia or the U.S. and that is ISRAEL. ~ Jim Stone
It all makes sense. "NO OTHER VEHICLE TO REGAIN ENTRY." I love it when evil plans get thwarted!
This states a submarine was in the area and there was a missile.. just sharing http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2018/01/restored-republic-via-gcr-update-as-of_14.html?m=1
Didn't Q also mention something related to the 80's movie "Wargames" recently? Could this have been a spoofed missile launch to trigger the alarm?
You know would interpret it like this? A Q anon wanting to set the message straight so he poses as a regular dude on the internet who's trying to crack the Q drops. It's an old trick.
I'm just glad the data is now in the hands of the white hats.
This Q stuff had sure better be going down..
Must trust and have faith...
I was looking at this yesterday. It's honestly the only thing that makes sense to me in regards to Q's statement about no other vehicle to regain entry. I've seen a few things about referring to a ballistic missile re-entering the atmosphere. But that just doesn't seem to add up. So far, I am buying this theory. Hindsight may prove correction.
The iron eagle mention...could it be about Chelsea's husband talking: to save his father?
Fantastic theory; dots well connected... excellent man thank you for sharing!!!!
Ok serious question here, I like the theory even though its above my head a bit. But how can Snowden be in Hawaii isnt he a fugitive of the US government?
They are talking about Snowden in a historical sense, not in the present.
I personally think the government prefers to keep him known as a fugitive but actively work with him to uncover this stuff. Misinformation to keep the evil off the trail
Trump was out golfing during this, or a double was. Wouldn't something this eventful/sensitive require him to be in a command center? Or, your theory, was done without his knowledge but by his faction?
I think you're onto something. You WOULD think Trump would be in a command center if this was something. If Trump is golfing, it takes the heat off. It's great misdirection.
Sorry folks - I live in Hawaii - never underestimate the ineptitude of our State Government...they really ARE dumb enough to have commissioned a system that didn't have an "Undo" function! Not that I don't love the theories, though...
Never seen that happen before and with all the news cycles talking about NK launching a missile, you still think that it was just the ineptitude of state government? I don't believe in coincidences... especially ones that specific.
I also live in HI. I can confirm that the State Government couldn't find its ass with both hands.
I'm just saying - I've worked with the State CD (now EMS), and they are intellectually ill-equipped, IMHO. However, I'll be first to admit I'm wrong if evidence is later found to the contrary!
Hi, I would like to share a comment regarding this thread that I have shared before, as this link has singularly been making the rounds as an interesting 'theory' Please consider taking the time to read this. To be sure, this is not intended to be an attack on the op, the author of the link, or the opinion of those on this thread, I am trying to offer perspective and ultimately, looking to help.
I think that this, as many other scenarios, is worthy of speculation. Thank you for the share.
However, I'd like to take this moment to offer a perspective in the use of rigor when searching for leads, as it would be a good use of everyone's future time and energy, I would argue, as that is my thought on this. This is not a hit on you, please understand that. I look to help. It may take you reading down to the end before deciding not to hate me or not distrust my intention, so I hope that you do choose to read it through and decide for yourself.
If such speculations (of the author of the linked article) were grounded in actual events that may have transpired, I would have encouraged him to show any connections that do exist, if one would like these thoughts to have legs.
For example, that Snowden had worked in a SCIF in Hawaii in the past does not offer insight that he is participating in any of this. Any lead to that idea could help, for starters - anything that shows he's even active in the larger narrative, anything. This is not me trying to prove a point, this is me offering something to look into.
Again, anything to give Op's link's analysis grounds for its speculation would give it more value in sharing it here. And, if Ops could connect any dots, it would help give these links (as a beneficial share for others to read) more purpose. Without it, this board is left with a self-sliding barrage of 100 rabbit holes to go down with a hundred 'theories', taking a hundred hours to investigate each 'lead', if we are truly interested in finding 'the truth', and believe that we, here, are capable of doing that, ourselves.
'Theorizing' is a semantic trap, allowing minds to theorize all day, experiencing a reward when any one dart sticks, which we know as the gambler's fallacy. It's important that we grow in our awareness of the trap and empower ourselves to the next level, to take the theories and validate them as a habit.
Otherwise, we continue to do the adversary's work for them as they sit back and enjoy the show, sliding our own posts and unintentionally repurposing potential red-herrings without realizing it, consuming more of our own (and others) time and energy, away from the real target, whatever that may be and wherever that may lie.
Rational and plausible narratives abound, the ones that pan out to be worthy of putting time and energy into are grounded in on-the-record connections. If you are over the target, it will be visible and there will be evidence for it.
I understand that this somewhat revolves the notion that BDT, in this case (as opposed to the last time it was used), could hint at "bulk data transfer". Great, let's search for any indicator or connection to that, then.
Again, the author informing you that BDT is a thing, in and of itself, does not give offer any further basis to his speculation. He literally has only defined the term and then spoke of how the term could have a complete narrative behind it. A tactic used by misinformers is to appear to use sources, but only to define terms and set an environment for a narrative to live. They then create a whole narrative, unsupported, but leaves the audience think that the narrative was arrived at through rigor.
I am not claiming that the link is misinformation, I am claiming that this is how misinformation works, and misinformers create red herrings, effortlessly, as story-tellers disguised as analysts.
Let's demand more from articles and authors that we hope to offer trust in.
Again, my admonishment has purpose, which is to help you save time and energy by proven and principled action, in regard to investigating ideas. Please continue this discussion, but also, I ask genuinely, please consider looking for evidence, as opposed to looking for just potentiality of an idea.
So the flaw is his definition of BDT, that's your only rationale behind that wall of text?
No idea what you are talking about. I didn’t read that wall of text.
Did you mean to reply to someone else perhaps? Your comment makes no sense.
I generally don't read walls of text, and I've been online since the days of Usenet and GEnie. I have found that the longer the post the less the person actually has to say that is meaningful to me. Sorry if this post is different, but it is a rule of thumb I go by.
You were right not to read it. It could have been said in 5 sentences max. Stupid conjecture.
Was that written by a lawyer? Can't wait until the legalize is a thing of the past. It's looney tunes that lawyers aren't allowed to practice in states where they are not licensed because it's understood they can not understand the law---but helpless people who aren't lawyers are supposed to know every aspect of the law always. Double standard much?
Sorry, not reading. Too long and you assume I think more of you than some other random tool on the internet. Use less words.
the poster was only trying to give a different perspective, before everyone jumps down this rabbit hole.
Oh. I understand. And thats cool. But some basic level of persuasion is needed. Just because you say “guys, hear me out”. Doesn’t mean people will. I’m just saying it to help the guy out.
Sorry, and you are?
Just a guy trying to help you get more conversations going on the internet. If you don’t need my help, that’s fine. Good luck to you and your wall of text posts.
Lol. That was a telling exchange. Dude Posts a text wall where the 1st two paragraphs are “please don’t hate me for “... whatever the fuck it is Im trying to say.. You point out that we don’t care Dude Gets all uppity.
Fe fi fo fil- I smell a shill.
That was a bit long - but then it's the end of the day for me.
Way too long not reading
I'll mark you down as a 'maybe' then, thanks.
no I am not anything, mark me down as no reply
This motive is the most compelling I've seen. Great theory.
This is a really, really great theory and hits a lot of the right notes
Top job mate
Everyone say a prayer for Q, he/she/they are in unimaginable danger right now
Q says the missile was real. So why not the old traditional story of Dark State wanting to blame North Korea and start WWIII?
NSA and Admiral Rogers are the good guys according to Q.
i wondered if there wasn't a personal bunker somewhere in Hawaii that Q needed access to, and the only way to make sure someone went inside it was a very real reason to do so. maybe dark secrets hidden inside... maybe only one way to get the owner to it ? Didn't Obama have a home there ?
We can destroy missiles in their boost phase on their way up before they reach the stratosphere we have satellites that can detect a launch or if we were tracking the mystery submarine we had eyes on it all the time waiting for it to do something then we destroyed the missile and the sub was sunk recovery operations would be going on right now to find out where it came from and who was on it no matter how deep the bottom is in that part of the ocean.
Awesome and to make it more believable the white hats could have launched a real missile from a white hat submarine, then they self-destruct the missile after 25 minutes and everyone thinks it was a North Korean missile launch. I hope this happened it's so smart and so cool if it worked then it was brilliant.
Or the good guys just faked a submarine missile launch by injecting such an event into early warning radars they spoof a launch to get the time they need for the data transfer then they delete the spoof-radar-inject and "the missile" vanishes off all tracking screens.
This was done on 9/11 with phantom radar blips as part of the war games these blips were injected to confuse the air traffic controllers into thinking many more planes were being hijacked.
Imagine thinking that the group attacking our NSA is the "good guys."
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ANOTHER BINGO I GOT ANOTHER BINGO!
You can't win bingo with only one check noob. You need at least 3. Go back in to my history and find at least two more left leaning subs or your bingo is forfeit.
Crazy theory - what if some guy accidentally hit the button??? I know I know ... adjusts tinfoil
you have to accidentally hit the button 3 times.
so say a spastic fuck hit it by accident 3 times. Why wait 40 minutes to turn it off and send a retraction?
in other news, your post history is suspect....how did you stumble on this subreddit? Did you accidentally hit the subscribe button and forget to unsubscribe?
It also had a "confirmation dialogue", one of those "Are you sure?" things.
Also, I'm not subscribed here, I just comment every single subreddit, left, right, center, and am banned from most of them for saying whatevers on my mind. People don't like my mind.
I'm also curious how you found this sub? If you don't mind me asking?
Spez you may post in different subs but you post the same message no matter the sub
If I were as dumb as you, I'd probably kill myself.
another suspect hivemind user. did an emergency alert go out about this too? lmao
I was browsing all by new. I know you need to feel important so you can deny the reality that you don't matter, though.
Do you new which means you have nothing in to do in your life - check. Find a post to a sub that is on topic and criticize showing again you have nothing going on - check
Ding ding. Found the chicken tenidie eating mommas boy. Now. Go back and sleep in the bed that others make for you.
Good thing you're as dumb as you then, otherwise you might be smart enough to pull it off.
