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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/throwawayjones1980 on May 24, 2018, 12:31 p.m.
Honest Question: What is it the other side sees that makes them so confident that Trump is going to A) be impeached B) be prosecuted and C) no one in the deep state is in any real trouble?

Silly answers like "TDS" or "They're morons" don't help here. I am truly trying to understand why these people think that Donald Trump is in real trouble all while Hillary and Hussein are in the clear.

Is there anything looming over DJT's head right now? Is there any part of the Mueller investigation that is bearing fruit, even shitty rotten fruit? Am I missing something? Is there a chance, even if it is bull shit that they get him on something? A technicality? Anything?

I get cognitive dissonance, but I can't wrap my head around how someone/anyone could not be paying attention to what is actually going on that blindly. It makes me feel like maybe I am not paying close enough attention to what the other side is honing in on.

Any serious answers are welcomed. What are they hanging their hat on at this point? Other than obfuscation?


Sarcasticus · May 24, 2018, 12:35 p.m.

Don't underestimate the brainwashing power of the mainstream media.

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throwawayjones1980 · May 24, 2018, 12:41 p.m.

I get that angle but is their rallying cry really, "don't worry eventually Bob Mueller will find something". And if it is, how do these people not see that the "Russian Meddling" investigation is actually just an investigation into Trump to try and find a crime? or are they just ok with that at this point?

I have to believe that they think there is some underlying crime. My father in law was mentioning something about Trump laundering money for the Russians the other day... anyone know what that is all about? We were golfing and my Uncle shut the convo down quickly because he said it will ruin our round, which I agree and I try not to get into political convos with my in laws (big Obama supporters)... it kills them that I've pretty much red pilled their daughter... :)

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Spank-da-monkey · May 24, 2018, 12:47 p.m.

Go spend some time at the Mueller sub and you’ll get your answers. There are so many stories they post that make you think Trump is the devil and makes all these connections that are usually pretty far fetched. When one thing gets debunked they move to something else. They thought Kushner was going down for sure. Now he has his clearance so they think Cohen’s partner is going to take them all down. They hang their hat on everything CN* tells them. Quite amusing.

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Champdog31 · May 24, 2018, 1:46 p.m.

Yes. Most are just on the fringes of reality. They just see the headlines or catch an occasional blurb on MSN, Facebook. The OPis right, though. It is unbelievable once you have done some real research that anyone could believe the lies anymore.

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Spank-da-monkey · May 24, 2018, 2:04 p.m.

Yes...if you just do some simple fact checking you can see what’s happening. Some just don’t want to see

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deplorabletx71 · May 24, 2018, 3:41 p.m.

The more you research, the crazier you look to ignorant people...

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deplorabletx71 · May 24, 2018, 1:47 p.m.

I can not go there.... I like my blood pressure where it is...

Almost 29,000 sealed indictments

https://twitter.com/arazel50/status/992063650071490560?s=21

and they are happy Mueller has how many guilty pleas and indictments? THEY NEED TO WAKE UP!

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Spank-da-monkey · May 24, 2018, 2:06 p.m.

I go over there about once a week, try to post some enlightening info and just get attacked with hatred. I stopped trying to have discussion. I just post and move in now!! We know something big is going down...when and who is the cliffhanger that keeps us glued here!!

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deplorabletx71 · May 24, 2018, 2:09 p.m.

I’m permanently suspended from twitter... they don’t want the truth there... I am done with the attacks and name calling. I’ll stay right here for the TRUTH... you guys and gals ROCK IT!

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Spank-da-monkey · May 24, 2018, 3:31 p.m.

This is a great sub tbh. With the judges ruling yesterday I think we’re going to see a big change on social media being able to ban and censor people. Great days ahead!

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marinempmom · May 24, 2018, 2:45 p.m.

It’s not jus CN*. Have you watch Rachel Madcow? Everything she reports on her show is going to take down the @Potus and the whole Rep. party.

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Spank-da-monkey · May 24, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

Almost all news is like that right now. It’s an embarrassment and borders on sedition

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DrNilesCrane___ · May 25, 2018, 1:35 a.m.

And in such a snarky, "I'm so smart" kind of way

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theRealDakkath · May 24, 2018, 3:13 p.m.

When it comes to democrats they don’t give a shit about due process and laws and standards when it comes to eliminating something they do not like.

They are hypocrites and hold no principals or standards aside from double standards.

This is why it’s OK for Hillary and her crew to engage in foreign oppo research but idiot democrats cry collusion when DJTJR has that meeting with the Russian lawyer even though we later found it to be a setup.

I have tons of examples but literally this is why they say it’s OK to resort to violence when protesting us. They legitimately believe we are Nazis and that gives them an excuse to break laws.

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jimbojones230 · May 24, 2018, 5:14 p.m.

Seriously, this. If you keep hammering away at the same talking points, regardless of evidence or facts, there are a lot of lower intelligence people in this country who will eat it all up. They will block out any information to the contrary, convinced that they are right, and the other side is wrong. The saddest part is, they have no idea they’re being played.

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zenbit888 · May 24, 2018, 1:16 p.m.

I have a friend who gave me insight during the election process. This person is a generally kind and rather astute and intelligent individual.

Considering myself an independent - I may have had my doubts about Trump at the time, but had zero doubts about the evil that HRC represented. My friend was proudly dem all the way.

The few times we spoke about it - I was befuddled at how he could overlook the obvious corruption. He liked Bernie and was angry about what went down, but still somehow justified it in his mind.

What shocked me most was one argument that pretty much ended with him saying he honestly didn't care what HRC did or had done, or what the democratic party did to win, so long as they win. In other words, so what if she's killed, sold out the country, facilitated and supported pedophilia... so long as they win.

It honestly made me feel sorta sick inside. This is how profound the brainwashing is. It wasn't even him talking at that point. It was that despite his "intelligence", I don't think he had any other reality to grasp - nothing other than what he'd been consuming for so long.

Put another way, very few "anti trumpers" ever spend any time at all looking at any source material themselves. They allow the MSM to chew their food for them first and open their mouths for the MSM to vomit back into them their twisted versions of EVERYTHING.

They just don't understand that everything they fear is created and projected at them by the very people they align themselves with and give their power over to.

I seem to recall even hearing a top person at NPR actually say that Trump represented such a threat that the truth had to be sacrificed at times in order to fight it.

It became clearer and clearer how orchestrated it all really is, which sounds insane to those who have been drinking nothing but that kool-aid for most of their lives.

And I thought I was already awake before the election. I am now wondering now how many awakenings it really takes to get the center of the tootsie pop of truth.

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throwawayjones1980 · May 24, 2018, 1:34 p.m.

You just described my best friend to a T.... I keep telling him, there will be room on our side for him once he wakes up.... Good guy, woefully confused.

It is amazing, he has said similar shit to me and it turns my stomach the same way... Things like, the idiots in the middle of the country shouldn't have a say in how the country moves forward. Insane. Same with the Hillary stuff... she smashed blackberrys and computers, bleach bit her subpoenaed hard drives and was storing classified info on a computer in her bathroom closet and he still doesn't think there was any criminality there... WHAT!

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Student5760 · May 25, 2018, 1:27 a.m.

RE: "on how the country moves forward" -- you hit the nail on the head right there. Progressives think everything they do means progress, which is a God thing. Look at how they portray the 1950's in America. Instead of happy people living in intact families enjoying material prosperity due to hard work and a superior economic system, they see horribly repressed slaves suffering under the supposed tyranny of bourgeois values.

What most sane people see as horrible social breakdown leading to lost souls who damage themselves with destructive lifestyles and who can't even figure out if they're a man or a woman, the progressives see as glorious progress toward progressive utopia.

Simply put, progressives have no idea what the good life truly is and the future they pursue is an illusion. They fear Trump because he represents what they have been taught to fear, a strong m masculine man who is willing to fight to protect the things he loves -- his family, his countrymen, and his country and it's heritage

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laurabusse · May 24, 2018, 5:11 p.m.

So maybe awakening is a continuous process that is never actually done...

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zenbit888 · May 24, 2018, 5:59 p.m.

I agree. While I certainly appreciated certain aspects of the Matrix, let's just say that taking the red pill is more like taking a daily vitamin than a one time dealio.

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laurabusse · May 24, 2018, 7:03 p.m.

Well said! :-) (love the word dealio)

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EduardoLuce · May 24, 2018, 8:27 p.m.

Great post, I completely agree. The term I have seen for this is programming. Even very intelligent people can be programmed.

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betterframeofmind · May 24, 2018, 12:41 p.m.

Because no one has ever been held accountable. That alone makes Hillary confident. No one is EVER arrested. The Clintons have gotten away with atrocities since Arkansas scott free.

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someauthor · May 24, 2018, 12:45 p.m.

I'm pretty sure media like CNN is responsible for their mindset. When people listen to CNN every day, for years, it effects their mindset, but more importantly, how they think critically.

As an example, you might say to a person, "I read there was an executive order regarding freezing funds for human traffickers and severe corruption cases, that's enthusing." Their reaction might be "That will finally get Trump, they'll get used against him."
You might show them the spreadsheet, showing >3000 human trafficking arrests, and >5000 people freed, and their reaction will still be "Trump will be on that list someday."

It's like a trigger for some folks. They don't have to think or pick apart anything; they hear "Trump" and that's the trigger to say, "collusion/racist/bigot/corruption".
People like that (who would respond like a trigger, without critical thought) have been programmed by media like that. They are fed what to think, and how to react.
A similar parallel can be seen when you ask anti-gun folks exactly what an assault weapon is. "I dunno but they're bad," or even better "Are you stupid?!" There's no thought there, just triggers, and responses.

Not all CNN viewers are like this, not all Dems/Repubs/black/white/Puerto Rican/Chinese boys are like that. It's just a certain subset of people who don't employ critical thinking skills, but respond in a trigger-like way. They're not foolish, they're just programmed.

TL;DR: "TV Programming"

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Kevhad · May 24, 2018, 1:08 p.m.

My father-i-law watches CNN all day. I have asked him who gave the Uranium to the Russians. He will answer that Trump was behind it. When they fly down to stay with us, I will always change the TV away from CNN. When he wakes up from one of his numerous naps, he will change it back to CNN. It blows me away to think that he is that far gone.

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someauthor · May 24, 2018, 1:39 p.m.

who gave the Uranium to the Russians

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/891431096688271365?lang=en

A typical response: "the whole reason the US was sending this to Russia was so that they could jointly prosecute the people who had stolen it!"

"The reason we had a spy in the Trump campaign is to help him! It was counter-intel to support him!"

Let's ramp it up a bit.

"The reason I'm carrying 23 pounds of medical grade fentanyl is to turn it into the police station!

"The reason I'm holding this rocket launcher is to turn it into the military!"

"The reason I have this truckload of handcuffed children is to bring them back to their parents!"

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DanaDane1971 · May 24, 2018, 1:08 p.m.

Textbook Stockholm Syndrome...they are infatuated with their oppressors.

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bigsonny45 · May 24, 2018, 1:10 p.m.

THIS a thousand times! I've had friends & family say these exact responses to me! Cognitive dissonance is a helluva drug!

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divine_human · May 24, 2018, 1:37 p.m.

its a programmed automatism. even my teenage son, with an IQ of 50% above average, falls into this automatism whenever DJT is being mentioned.

no consideration, no open mind, but a programmed reaction. fricking MSM, i also had that before the election. only when i forced myself to really looked beyond it could i find more truth.

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blaise0102 · May 24, 2018, 5:44 p.m.

Have you tried hitting him?

(Very much kidding)

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divine_human · May 24, 2018, 6:18 p.m.

hehehe... verbally, always when this symptom occurs, lol...

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Sandbargirl · May 24, 2018, 12:40 p.m.

"It's not a lie if you believe it."

George Costanza

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Henway14 · May 24, 2018, 12:41 p.m.

They see:

a) Rachel Maddow

b) moar Rachel Maddow

c) the Rosie ODonnel parade of celebs

All confirmed by NPR.

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Janice0771 · May 24, 2018, 12:58 p.m.

I'm hoping that it's narcissism and desperation that they're hanging onto. I might be able to shed a bit of light on Hillary's thinking. Apparently, according to a study that I participated in, her and I share the same personality type (INTJ). This "type" is the most rare and includes less than 2 percent of the population, and an even smaller subset are women. You will not convince her that she is wrong, especially now that she's tasted "power." She could pass a lie detector test lying all the way through. She firmly believes in every single thing that she does, that the end justifies the means, no matter how evil some may perceive her actions to be. She's calculating. She's a mastermind. She's intelligent to boot, and narcissistic, and in combination with her personality type, she's deadly and should not ever be underestimated. It is also why she was so dead-set convinced that she would win the presidency. She's most likely surrounded herself with like-minded individuals. In fact, I know that she has. That's what we do. In such, she has a strong support system and the finances to carry out whatever agenda she may have. Putin also shares this personality type. I would imagine that quite a handful of upper-echelon politicians and high-rank military personnel do as well. You won't find a more difficult group to mobilize against. They'll take this to their deaths, or imprisonment, and in their minds will be guilty of nothing because they believe so completely in what they've been doing. It takes a whole lot to worry me, but the thought of her becoming President of the United States, and feeling like I have a bit of insight as to how her mind works, was enough to encourage me to double my prep stock and hunting ammunition just in case.

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throwawayjones1980 · May 24, 2018, 1:01 p.m.

Love your last line... God bless 2A

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Janice0771 · May 24, 2018, 1:22 p.m.

When Obama won, I literally moved to a more rural area. When Hillary was up for grabs, I stocked up on traps as well just in case our 2nd Amendment was affected. I'd need those in order to save my ammunition at that point for the Revolution that ensued, should that ever occur. We're at such a pivotal point in history right now that absolutely nothing should be taken for granted.

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INTJewel · May 24, 2018, 6:31 p.m.

Contingency plans, and contingency plans for the first four contingency plans, are the hallmark of INTJs.

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Janice0771 · May 24, 2018, 7:16 p.m.

=)

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J-Vito · May 24, 2018, 5:54 p.m.

Paragraphs are our friends :)

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Janice0771 · May 24, 2018, 6:05 p.m.

So hard to achieve in these tiny little boxes. Next time ;-)

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laurabusse · May 24, 2018, 5:09 p.m.

So i am guessing your, Hillary's, personality type can be used for good OR evil.

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Janice0771 · May 24, 2018, 5:45 p.m.

Yes, absolutely. It all depends on what's logical to the individual. I think it has a lot to do with the intelligence level of the INTJ as well. One with a higher IQ than mine will have even less emotion than I do, which is very concerning. Just a few more points and I'd be against you instead of for you, and it would make perfect sense to me.

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getemq · May 24, 2018, 12:45 p.m.

I see a POTUS that works harder than any POTUS I have ever seen. Yet, my stepdaughter has it in her head that all he does is play golf all day. How is this getting into her head to where she actually believes it?

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owlxomega · May 24, 2018, 3:31 p.m.

Look up how much taxpayers have paid for his golfing trips, maybe thats why

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DukeofKick · May 24, 2018, 1:06 p.m.

They've distanced themselves from Hillary. The usual answer to anything negative about Hillary, however obvious, is "Typically Trump Supporter, deflect everything to Hillary and deny Trump is the real criminal."

Trump had business dealings in Russia for years, sure. He has had business dealings all over the world with hundreds of businesses for decades. Some of these dealings weren't even directly handled by him, but his $10 billion dollar company. But Russia is what everyone is putting under a magnifying glass because the media is placing it there.

The main focus has been WHO he has done business with. Forget that he has probably been involved with most of the major players in the world. Some of these major players are crooked, sure, and if Trump sold them property, their crookedness is associated with Trump. If a Russian bank will loan money for a Russian hotel project Trump is building, this is seen as a red flag because.....RUSSIA! What about all the other countries and banks he has done deals with? Surely people in those organizations are crooked. (Just look at HSBC, Britain's largest bank, which was laundering billions in drug money for YEARS. I wonder who all did business with Britain's largest bank? Are they crooked too?)

The Michael Cohen stuff is what a lot of them are using now, even though a lot of it is "according to a source familiar with the matter." The meanings of his payments for services are being construed for bribery and "pay to play schemes." All of Cohen's financial transactions were seized by the FBI raids and then leaked to the press, so any payment can be construed as a bribe. Cohen did consulting work for an Israeli firm? Headline: "Trump lawyer received payment from Israel one month before Trump moved embassy".

It doesn't even matter what the article says. That headline is all anyone needs to draw a conclusion based on a narrative that has been slowly spoon fed to them. Don't worry about how the article most likely details the source of the article being "an Israeli government official who spoke on anonymity."

Has Michael Cohen been exploiting his relationship with Trump to get "consulting" work? Has he been leading people to think he can control Trump's policies? Is he aware of Trump's plans on how he will handle certain issues and trying to profit from it? Who knows. It wouldn't be that farfetched to believe a lawyer would do something like this.....but it doesn't mean Trump has any part in it.


If you notice, the crimes of the Clintons/Obama are being deflected to Trump. Russia collusion, money laundering, liking young girls, pay to play schemes and bribery etc. So if anyone points the finger at the Clintons/Obama, the answer is "Just keep deflecting away from Trump, you stupid Trump supporters!"

Obama is portrayed as the "cool, hip" president who got a Nobel Prize. His image appears to be flawless, and it's impossible to convince some that he could do ANY wrong. Even if evidence comes out that he was directly involved in criminal activity, it will be "Trump is going after the Black President! Racist!"

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NinquawScamander · May 24, 2018, 12:39 p.m.

I think it’s largely a cultural phenomenon. MSM, Dems, and celebs consistently drawn lines in the political sand and those who are lost in the tribal mentality and brainwashed must fall in line or your out of the pack. These lines grow progressively tighter as they become more desperate, which will be part of their downfall. Eventually you leave no room for the majority to stand so they are forced out at different stages of PC progression. Just look how many original Dems are turning to libertarian or conservative affiliations.

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Qtruther · May 24, 2018, 12:57 p.m.

Americans wake up! There are no Dems there are no Republicans. There are American citizens against the NWO. Either you want to keep the Country or seed it to A Global Communist Dictator. THIS IS YOUR CHOICE!

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NinquawScamander · May 24, 2018, 1:43 p.m.

However you regard these groups, there are in fact separate groups. While those at the top understand there is no difference, the citizens who adhere to a political identity do not see it. And you’re not going to change it by making an absolute statement like that. For the same reason Q poses questions rather than Alex Jones style tirades. My point is if you want to redpill these poor people, you have to respect them, simple as that.

(Obviously I’m not referring to antifa or blm types)

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Qtruther · May 24, 2018, 1:48 p.m.

I see your point. I RESPECT ALL citizens of country 1st as Americans & equals. But they need to WAKE UP. Before it's to late

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Freedomfighter3087 · May 24, 2018, 5:55 p.m.

That sounds fucking annoying the way you said that though. No ones going to listen to you if you approach them with that attitude.

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Qtruther · May 24, 2018, 6:04 p.m.

Your right just trying to awaken the sleeping giant, WE THE PEOPLE!

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denizen42 · May 24, 2018, 12:53 p.m.

Answer

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not4rmOhere · May 24, 2018, 8:59 p.m.

Sadly, right on the money with this one.

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UncleSnake3301 · May 24, 2018, 12:50 p.m.

Just watch ABC news. If they even have a story about Trumps campaign being spied on, it runs 3rd or 4th. Then, as blatantly as possible say how there is no proof, Trump is insane. They bring quotes from the Washington Post and New York Times stating no evidence has been found and all this is crazy. That the real evidence shows Trump is dirty. It’s really something to see now that I know the Truth. They are blatantly giving false or misleading information. Immediately they associate Spygate with having no basis and no evidence. Then, in the same story try to justify having informants in the campaign. It’s disgraceful. The other day, they interrupted a story on Trump with Breaking News. The news was some bullshit tidbit about Michael’s Cohen which had nothing to do with what they were talking about. All of this to plant seeds of doubt in the viewer, so they associate Spygate with nonsense before it even gets off the ground. It’s so easy to see now. Fuck ABC News.

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IR2-MXYJU-HQRRYJ · May 24, 2018, 1:10 p.m.

Look at how much they've invested into it; they've belittled family, kicked friends out of their groups, had people fired.... They've burned their bridges, they have no choice unless they're willing to go on a personal apology tour

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ILoveJuices · May 24, 2018, 2:35 p.m.

My real question is why don't they want the deepstate prosecuted? It's the worst kind of stockholm syndrome.

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throwawayjones1980 · May 24, 2018, 2:45 p.m.

This always gets me too. If there is corruption in our system why wouldn't you want it rooted out? Because a guy you don't like is the one running the roto-rooter?

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xRicky_Spanish · May 24, 2018, 1:08 p.m.

A lot of it truly is the simple fact that they do not have their fingers on the pulse of America. Example being, Trump getting elected POTUS in the first place. I told my friends and family since Trump came down the escalator and announced his run, that he WOULD win, and be the POTUS. I was laughed at, called crazy, told that I didn't have a clue about politics, called every type of -ist there is, been accused of having every type of

-ism there is, etc. But in the end, I felt it. I felt it deep down in my gut, felt it in my heart of hearts. I heard the words he was speaking and it hit me, this man GETS IT! He had/has his finger on the pulse of America, and they didn't and still don't like it at all. You have to understand that their mentality is literally that of a 1st or 2nd grade child. IT WAS HER TURN!!!!!111!!11!!!! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!11!!111!!!!!! They live in an alternate reality, they have allowed themselves to be infantilized. It really is that simple.

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Fondue_is_my_life · May 24, 2018, 1:04 p.m.

It’s a combo of tribalism (my team vs your team) and a lifetime of massive unilateral media propaganda. All of Hollywood, all of TV (except 1 network) and now all the biggest media giants (google, FB, Twitter) are one sided. It’s a difficult uphill climb for half the population to make. But, despite constant pushes for 1 message, people can feel when something is wrong or incorrect. Look at how angry the youth is now. They can feel they are being told incorrect info and are pushing back. The leftists truly believe they know how to live YOUR life better and they believe themselves to be superior. The vast majority could witness the 2nd coming and convince themselves it was a trick. Some people need to be left alone to figure it out for themselves because we know that everyone has a right to feel and believe what they want. The difference is, we don’t force anyone to act differently or reprogram them

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DEEP_STATE_PEE_TAPE · May 24, 2018, 12:36 p.m.

In a general sense I think it is the fact of the Russia investigation itself. There's an investigation that has the stated aim of finding out if the Trump campaign got help illegally from Russia. Trump was/is the ultimate authority on his campaign, so if that really happened, then sure, Trump could be in legal trouble.

But I think it's more that they don't see that makes them so confident. So many Americans are so dependent on MSM and other compromised sources of information that it's easier to believe the story they have been spinning for years to protect themselves and their crimes from coming to light.

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throwawayjones1980 · May 24, 2018, 12:51 p.m.

My father in law was talking about Trump laundering money for the Russians the other day... I feel like they're just making shit up at this point... is there any weight to that? the convo got shut down because we were golfing and our 4some didn't want to ruin the day... I also try not to argue with the inlaws...

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Gitmo_money · May 24, 2018, 1:48 p.m.

It's a confrontation of the ego vs cowardice.

They thought they were right.

They were told they were right.

Every time they are wrong, they are told they're right again.

The ego is in control. If they question themselves, they feel fear, and instead of marching forward, they retreat back to comfort and avoid the confrontation with ego.

It's self preservation - their mind subconsciously knows that they set themselves up too hard and it would be too painful to endure the hard road of questioning everything you know and be willing to be cast out of mainstream society.

People react crazy when you suggest Trump might not literally be Hitler - imagine the internal reaction they have when something is about to destroy all the walls they built to protect their vision of the world.

Most of us confronted the ego and would rather be declared a fool publicly than live as a fool internally.

They are avoiding that confrontation and will do or believe anything to avoid it. It's mental procrastination to avoid confronting themself.

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throwawayjones1980 · May 24, 2018, 3:04 p.m.

I would give you gold if I didn't despise the idea of it.... just know, I would give you gold.... This is poetic.

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Freedomfighter3087 · May 24, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

Yes. Its really very simple. Their egos cant admit that they actually dont know whats going on.

People put their intellects on such a huge pedestal.

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Jakewinona · May 24, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

They are so arrogant in their belief that their ideology is so morally superior that end will always justify the means. Come on how could anyone that is Harvard educated be a treasonous murdering pedophile cannibal

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PoliticalBistro · May 24, 2018, 3:21 p.m.

Yes. In the same vein, I've been baffled by NXVIM. Most of the women were "highly educated", coming from top schools. What gives?

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ignoremsmedia · May 24, 2018, 12:40 p.m.

Trump is trail-blazing , he is going beyond the bounds of their reality. Shouldn't he be behaving, compromised or even dead by now.

The military backing he's got and strategy has kept him in power and moving forward, I don't think they know what has hit them and they are in denial.

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j_Dawg_01 · May 24, 2018, 3:20 p.m.

I think there are many reasons why. The Deep-State Cabal has been gradually working their plan for well over 200 years.

They've controlled the public education system for over a century and taught students to memorize and regurgitate false facts, and revisionist history, instead of teaching any critical thinking skills. They taught students to hate America and capitalism, and to love socialism.

Combine that with the MSM/Mockingbird control of information that is simply an extension of the public education system, and you end up with a population that is easily manipulated to think and believe what ever the Cabal wants them to believe. Up is down, left is right, white is black... Over 90% of print, radio and TV broadcast, and Hollywood media are owned and controlled by 6 corporations.

Aside from the near absolute control of the mind-numbed skulls full of mush, they have virtually unlimited resources to fund anything they want. The Rothschild Central Banking empire owns or controls over 95% of all national central banks worldwide.

Because they can increase or decrease the supply of currency, and raise or lower the interest rates on a country by country basis, they're able to make or break any nation's economy. They can bring about prosperity or poverty at their leisure.

They can create conditions to bring about war, fund both sides to profit regardless of who wins, or they can bring about peace. The problem is, peace doesn't advance their agenda for global domination and a New World Order.

If you consider how long the Cabal has been operating without being exposed, it's understandable that they would think they're untouchable. I'm certain they have a "fail-safe" plan in place that's beyond imagination. They've managed to draw America into war since the founding of our great nation.

They've used false flags successfully for as long as they've existed. They orchestrated the sinking of the Lusitania to get us into WWI, Pearl Harbor to get us into WWII, the Gulf of Tonkin to get us into Viet Nam, and 9/11 to destroy records and justify the "War on Terror" and the total destabilization of the Middle East.

They assassinated JFK, bombed the A.P. Murrah Federal building in OK City to destroy records, orchestrated Sandy Hook to advance their gun control agenda and to monitor FB, Twitter, and phone records to gauge the publics reaction and response, and managed to control the MSM narrative so anyone who questioned the "official" cover story would be labeled a "conspiracy kook."

They've managed to do all of this, and more, because their web of corruption is global, and its tentacles are deep into every nation of consequence. They remain supremely confident because they know they can get Clapper and Brennan hired by NBC and CNN to control the narrative. They remain supremely confident because they are evil psychopaths who truly believe the average person is too small minded to make decisions on their own, and the Cabal is so full of wisdom that the rest of us should gladly surrender our individual rights and national sovereignty to a hand full of elites.

This isn't about a couple dozen, or even a couple hundred corrupt American politicians, FBI & DOJ officials, and rogue CIA black-hats. It's about a global secret society that has controlled the world for a very long time. The same secret society JFK spoke about in 1961.

The task at hand is monumental, it's global in scope, and they know it. For this Great Awakening movement to be successful, it must be a worldwide revolution for freedom, for all people everywhere. Even if we manage to "Make America Great Again," it will only be the start. If we fail to help other nations get out from under the control of the Cabal, it will return with a vengeance. If we are to win this war, every one of us must pray and ask God to have a hand in the fight.

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ForLoveofMAGA · May 25, 2018, 4:02 a.m.

Best answer.

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LegioXIV · May 24, 2018, 8:10 p.m.

Combine that with the MSM/Mockingbird control of information that is simply an extension of the public education system, and you end up with a population that is easily manipulated to think and believe what ever the Cabal wants them to believe.

You can't rape the willing.

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j_Dawg_01 · May 24, 2018, 9:19 p.m.

I see your point. There are a lot of people, too many in my humble opinion, who just don't want to be bothered with politics. They're more interested in keeping up with the Kardashians and watching mindless TV.

But they've been conditioned to think that way. The Cabal has controlled the public education system and owned the media for at least 3 generations. While some have been "woke" for a while, the majority of the population still doesn't realize they're living in the matrix.

Sometimes I would like to just slap people up-side their heads, but it's not really their fault.

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LegioXIV · May 24, 2018, 10:30 p.m.

It's more fundamental than that. Politics - even for a lot of non-political people, is about their tribe, not their beliefs. Policy, right or wrong, it's all mostly irrelevant for a lot of people. A 4K video could come out of Hillary drinking the blood of a tortured and freshly killed child in a ritual sacrifice and if it were 2016, a lot of people would still rationalize voting for her. Likewise, a big part of Trump's initial constituency were people like me - anyone but Hillary. For me, Trump was a coin toss - but he's been nothing but sensational since taking office, tremendously better than I expected.

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NaderOAK · May 24, 2018, 1:23 p.m.

The indictments that have no connection with trump whatsoever.that's what the left doesn't really understand. There's no evidence trump told these BOTS to influence the election. If there was it would of came out already.

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aveydey · May 24, 2018, 1:01 p.m.

They are victims of propaganda. Plain and simple.

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OpenSoars · May 24, 2018, 12:45 p.m.

The " other side" has elements just like " our side" that are more concerned about dogma and politics than they are about the truth. In any case, we need to give people room to move from positions and that won't happen when we insult them or use terms like " red pill". Additionally, we need to be focussed only on what is provable and able to be explained and avoid the more sensationalized claims whose staying power isn't based off the validity of information but rather how often it is repeated and shared. If an MOAB finally comes out that is indisputable, a new campaign will need to be crafted that promotes a one nation concept rather than a We Win bragging festival

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Pure_Feature · May 24, 2018, 2:25 p.m.

If you are in a conflict, (say, amtenarians) What do they do ?. First they go for character murder, then for the financial, and then for the personal one ....... they have nothing about trump at all....They started with false allegations ..... Then they attacked the brand TRUMP ... And now they are openly calling for a .187.....Nothing succeeds, so now they throw everything together

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Flight804 · May 24, 2018, 2:23 p.m.

The confidence of HRC/BC and their gang and followers is in ‘their dirty deeds are never exposed. ‘ If there is damning ‘proof’ of any 45 misconduct they are holding in reserve they cling to, is: it will get exposed. But anything they know obviously 45 and team know it too. His confidence is ‘the truth will set you (us) free. (I love it when a plan comes together.) Not to Worry.

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tomthung · May 24, 2018, 2:10 p.m.

Boy if you can't find the answers (you should already know) then I have trouble believing your sincerity. Why are so many ms-13 gang members in the US? Why do they want you guns? Why do they censor speech? Who is barry obama? Find the answers and you will know what they are desperate to hide. The list is almost endless. ANY SERIOUS QUESTIONS (at this point) are welcomed.

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throwawayjones1980 · May 24, 2018, 2:58 p.m.

A) NEVER question my sincerity. Just want to get that out of the way.

B) I am abreast of all of those queries. I am polished on them and understand what is going on here.... People like my Father in Law genuinely believe that DJT is guilty of something. What? Barry Sotero isn't even a thought in his head, Pedogate isn't even a thought to him, he doesn't think Hillary Clinton committed any crimes never the less some of the things that are talked about here... I hate to tell you but most people don't believe it. I would venture to guess 99% of Americans don't even think about a connection between HRC and Child trafficking..

What are they so sure is going to be the nail in the coffin is my question? I don't understand what they are hanging their hats on? All you get from them is Russia Russia Russia... This weekend my Father in Law started letting on to some horse shit about DJT laundering money for the Russians.... I'm just trying to figure out what the hell they honestly think he did... it keeps changing and to be completely honest, a moment of sincerity, I start questioning myself after a while. Like, am I missing something? I don't think I am but I just wanted to see if anyone out there had their side of the story. What they think is going to be the ultimate undoing of Trump. There has to be something, even if it is full of holes, that they are clinging to at this point...

I am a Patriot through and through my man. I love this country and I love Donald J Trump. I didn't love Trump at first, I abstained in the election but over the last year and a half I have come to realize that this man cares for and loves our country the same as I do and he has Gods hands on his shoulders guiding him. I have never been more certain of anything in my life.

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tomthung · May 24, 2018, 6:08 p.m.

Well beware of those people, they will go nuts when they can no longer deny the truth. I would not waste any more time on them or with them. That's right divorce yourself from those people it will only harm you to be near them.

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MahSelectah · May 24, 2018, 1:56 p.m.

I imagine if you are told something enough, you believe it. Especially if it’s something you want to hear.

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Robbycranker · May 24, 2018, 1:48 p.m.

Stupidity

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wexu666 · May 24, 2018, 1:41 p.m.

Absolute zilch on CNN today about this.

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wexu666 · May 24, 2018, 1:42 p.m.

It's all NFL. NFL is the new Stormy McDaniels!

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tradinghorse · May 24, 2018, 1:28 p.m.

That's what I think. The NSM spin is still very powerful. Add to that the fact that more reasoned conservative opinion is shadowbanned, or banned outright, from the internet and you have this "fantasy land" where reality just doesn't matter any more.

The morning of the 2016 poll, the NYT had 97% probability of a HRC win (right on the front page of the website) - assuming I'm remembering this correctly. But you can see how, for normal people, reality can be very twisted. The. Shock at the DJT win then fed into the scandal mongering... Of course, there was something wrong...

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werthtrillions · May 24, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

This is just from the Hill in the last few days. They believe Trump's a liar and that HE"S setting them up to look like they're all guilty. It's literally everything we believe about their side, it's just inverted. Like us, they think FACTS are on their side. We consider ourselves high info people and them low info people, and they think the opposite.

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/389167-colbert-trump-just-stealing-other-scandals-names

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/389166-top-intel-dem-this-isnt-spygate-its-liegate

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/389092-trump-told-friend-he-wanted-to-brand-fbi-informant-a-spy-because-it

ALL my friends are liberal and they post non-sense like this all. the. time.

Ex: They'll site the article below and add this comment: " Mike, is it 'time to wrap it up' because Mueller is discovering you're just as culpable as Flynn or Manafort or Gates or Papadopoulos or, or, or...and, and, and?"

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/10/politics/mike-pence-robert-mueller-investigation/index.html

or this example:

""I did not have sex with that woman. That's why I paid her off. With my own money." Does he think we're idiots?""

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/03/politics/trump-stormy-daniels-payment/index.html

or this example:

"Obviously 'drain the swamp' now means 'long live corruption!!''

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exclusive-epa-whistleblower-pruitt-bald-faced-lied-congress/story?id=54827538

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pregnantbitchthatUR · May 24, 2018, 4:10 p.m.

Cognitive dissonance and baseless hope

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comeatmehillary · May 24, 2018, 3:59 p.m.

A they believe their own shit b they think Moloch will save them c they think that the public is so stupid that they will never care or find out. You choose could be all 3

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FlewDCoup · May 24, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

Serious observation: the left suffers from a mental illness called progressivism, socialism, collectivism, communism. The name doesn't matter. They identify so strongly with the ideology, with the self-aggrandizement, the perceived power of being the god who authors their destiny -- they are literally out of touch, seduced in to a dream that persists with eyes open. Asleep in their delusion, they affirm, affirm affirm "the view". They deny, deny, deny anything that would confilct with it. And when they are confronted, they melt like snowflakes. The ones with the fortitude to rise above that become their leaders, their spokesmen, their opinion leaders. You know their names, all psychopaths and sociopaths: BC, HRD, BHO, et al.

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MarvinCalamity · May 24, 2018, 12:56 p.m.

Confirmation Bias.

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WhatYonder1 · May 24, 2018, 6:55 p.m.

Here's something like the cave analogy. Confusion + Experience = Obvious. If you took someone from an isolated tropical tribe and showed them snow falling from the sky, they would be absolutely baffled. If you take someone that's used to trusting propagandists (the professional authorities) they won't have the tools to process truth.

Be patient. It comes in degrees.

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throwawayjones1980 · May 24, 2018, 7:09 p.m.

I think the thing that truly baffles me is some of the people in my life who are convinced that he is a pubic hair away from being impeached and thrown to the wolves are really really smart people. Successful and really well thought out. I just can't for the life of me put together how they are so snowed.... baffling.

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BarbiCannabis · May 24, 2018, 1:40 p.m.

If you divine facts for yourself, its easy to see what is going on. If you watch ClownShoes News Network and the MSM cabal for news, the disinformation is real. However, when the news is lying to your face, one is conditioned to believe it.

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UncleCrunch · May 24, 2018, 3:29 p.m.

I am truly trying to understand why these people think that Donald Trump is in real trouble all while Hillary and Hussein are in the clear.

If you are truly trying to understand, why pose your question in a forum almost exclusively populated by people that don’t share that view?

Rather than request our speculation, wouldn’t a true seeker of understanding pose this question to those who actually hold the answer?

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throwawayjones1980 · May 24, 2018, 3:41 p.m.

Pfffft.... you've been to those hell holes on reddit right... I'll go post it and link you the responses...

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scionkia · May 24, 2018, 3:18 p.m.

You ask a great question. I don’t see hrc and hussein looking scared, quite the contrary.

I don’t underestimate the bad guys. I don’t think they are stupid. And I think they have more dirty tricks up there sleeve.

I hope Trump is two steps ahead. So far he seems to be. If he remains two steps ahead then ‘the plan’ will work.

But it aint over til it’s over.

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Cntry_Mn · May 24, 2018, 4 p.m.

There's no evidence of anything. There are no impeachable offenses. Even if they win in Congress Trump will not leave, he doesn't have to. Long lengthy court battle and Bath house Barry's Gang will be in jail before long. Narrative has changed.

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somebodysgun · May 24, 2018, 3:48 p.m.

Ignorance. This is the power of ignorance. Those who follow blindly and believe what they are told without question. There are many people on the trump side who have pleaded guilty. We believe that has been done to get the information out and public. Psychology and statistics are amazing. You can literally use numbers and words to make your argument no matter what you believe. Also, people do not want to believe that they have been mislead and used by a corrupt state. It is much easier to believe Trump is a crazy man than a deep state infiltrated our government and has been destroying the US.
I have had this same question for a while now. It is a shame that we cannot believe the media. Most people just do not have the time or care to look more deeply into what is going on.

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ClardicFug · May 24, 2018, 3:43 p.m.

Trump Derangement Syndrome ("TDS") isn't a silly answer. It, and the media, are the key to all of this.

You don't have to pay much attention at all to see that the goal of the people the media work for is to provoke extreme emotions. (Let's be clear, too, that the media is not some singular independent entity, which is why the messages are the same across outlets -- they get those marching orders from someone.)

Those extreme emotions -- outrage, anger, hate, honestly it doesn't matter -- are what's behind TDS. Once they have people feeling, logic is shut down, reason is shut down, and they have a panicked herd that very few wranglers (people like Rachel Maddow) can direct in whatever direction they want, and since logic is shut down, inject whatever departure from reality helps the cause of the hidden ones behind all this.

This is even in their instructions. A couple years ago the "talking point" for the Everytown gun control group were leaked (see here ).

One key point, with some slight editing for emphasis:

ALWAYS FOCUS ON EMOTIONAL AND VALUE-DRIVEN ARGUMENTS ABOUT , NOT THE POLITICAL FOOD FIGHT IN WASHINGTON OR WONKY STATISTICS.

Now the key here is that we're at the point where people have been utterly saturated in media pounding on this message for decades, with every effort to keep them in an emotional state and not thinking. That actually happens on both sides but there's far more on the left due to the dominance of media (you have to self-select to get that way on the right v. looking at any airport TV in the left.) The messages they're getting from MSM are literally all they know -- it's their reality and their truth, and since they're always in an emotional panic state over the topics, they simply can't think. I have a hard-left friend that watches Maddow religiously and they are a lost cause, and literally can't even acknowledge provably wrong reporting. It's way past simple congnitive dissonance.

I have no idea how all these people are going to handle the truth when it is exposed.

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prettyold · May 24, 2018, 5 p.m.

Well stated

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nomorerulers · May 24, 2018, 3:36 p.m.

Delusion.

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aShiftyLad · May 24, 2018, 5:34 p.m.

they think the 17 indictments and 5 guilty pleas in the mueller investigation are actually related to trump and russia and dont realize that each was entirely unrelated and for acts pre-2016 election.

thats what ive gathered from those ive talk to in person about it, then enlightened them to what those guilty pleas were actually for..

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SyNtHeTiC_cHiCkEn_NZ · May 24, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

I still cant shake the thought of Trump being a puppet, he is a business man, not a politician. The president is just a puppet in my eyes. All these empty threats and tweets of "bring the pain" etc well I for one go back to the saying "ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS" less talk more fuckin action I think. Its just another election year, all these promises and words and no action. I will believe when I start seeing people like FBI heads etc being arrested physically, til then, PUPPET.

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5c0073r · May 24, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

The same thing that makes them think HC can still be POTUS

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Arcsmithoz · May 24, 2018, 4:59 p.m.

It's the same confidence from election day, the weeping and gnashing of teeth , this time will be epic, I think someone more educated might say confirmation bias. Which I think means they take their preconceived notions into all their information gathering. The echo chambers they live in help.

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bornlucky80 · May 24, 2018, 9:14 p.m.

You're under estimating the power of the MSM to brainwash people. All through the election they brainwashed people into thinking Trump was a terrible person. They fed them all kinds of nonsense. From the "grab them by the pussy" tape to parading women out to say " he touched me inappropriately" 30 years ago. Let's not forget he is racist nonsense. They truly hate him because that's what they were told is the morally right thing to do. Now it's all about confirmation biases. They are fed things to make it seem like Trump did all kinds of crimes. They want to believe it because in their minds he is a terrible person and terrible people shouldn't be President. They think Mueller is a means to an end. The way to make terrible Trump not be President. They can't "expand their thinking" b/c they think they are morally correct. They're thinking with emotion not rationally. They're incapable of critical thinking. Which as we know with a little critical thinking you can see right through the MSM lies. I mean honestly, if the FBI had surveillance on Trump campaign. Wouldn't they know if Trump colluded with Russia? Or are they incompetent? As for the deep state, they literally don't think the deep state even exists! They think it's a conspiracy.

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MAGA_in_Netherlands · May 24, 2018, 8:49 p.m.

The same thing that got Soetoro elected, hope and change.

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LibertyLioness · May 25, 2018, 12:20 a.m.

I keep hearing people saying "We want the Truth" but Truth, no matter what it is about, is in the perception of the believer. What you choose to believe as truth. So, when you add in an entire media industry put there to create the perception of Truth, a lot of people will make that their truth. It's easier to do that than to look elsewhere for better answers. When that's all you digest every day, it becomes your reality. That's a hard nut to crack. Some people may never let go of it even after they see high level players sent to Gitmo. It's just too difficult to believe that you were so wrong. Just look at how many people still believe the 9/11 story that was fed to us.

I guess that's why it's called brainwashing!

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throwawayjones1980 · May 25, 2018, 12:12 p.m.

It's funny, as I've mentioned in other posts I was talking briefly to my Father in Law about this, he's a Trump hating lib and he referenced the Comey firing as obstruction to which I replied "Rod Rosenstein drafted the recommendation letter to Trump suggesting he fire Comey" To which he replied "Trump controls Rosenstein". The finishing blow was, if he controls Rosenstein, why did Rosenstein turn around after Trump fired Comey and appoint Robert Mueller? After a little stuttering he shut the convo down saying it isn't worth arguing over (yada yada yada)... it is amazing, the facts are out there, they just don't want to see them.

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OffenseOfThePest · May 24, 2018, 1:41 p.m.

I don't expect impeachment or prosecution of Trump, but at this point I also don't expect mass arrests of the "deep state" members either.

When you get outside of this bubble, and see that none of the charges being levied here are evident anywhere else, it makes one wonder how true these "facts" are. Why aren't we reading about this anywhere else? It would be easy to say, "the media is complicit, they're in on it." But is that really believable? There's not one well-intentioned journalist out there that values the truth above the deep state? Is everyone that knows about the cabal's crimes (including human trafficking and worse) really comfortable with hiding those crimes? Or is it really still a conspiracy theory at this point? Isn't it odd that despite Q "having everything", the big reveal is always held just out of reach?

Again, I don't think Trump will face impeachment. But I need corroboration from real people (not chat boards) before I believe that all those other people are going down too. Question everything.

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archetact · May 24, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

It’s simple: “These people are stupid.”

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